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  • 📜 Welcome Extra Historians to our Sitting Bull Lies video! Where we talk about the mistakes we made and the details we couldn't quite squeeze into our Sitting Bull series. With questions like, how all those shots could have missed Sitting Bull in episode 2? Why is "Giving them Ears" used as such a creepy way to say killing people? And what was Sitting Bull's relationship with the Crow?
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    Catharine R. Franklin, “Black Hills and Bloodshed: The U.S. Army and the Invasion of Lakota land, 1868-1876,” Montana The Magazine of Western History 63 (2013): 26-41, 90-93.
    Stanley Vestal, “The Works of Sitting Bull: Real and Imaginary,” Southwest Review 19 (1934): 265-278.
    Linda Scarangella McNenly, “For, Friend, or Critic: Native Performers with Buffalo Bill’s Wild West Show and Discourses of Conquest and Friendship in Newspaper Reports.” American Indian Quarterly 38 (2014), 143-176.
    William E. Lemons, “History by Unreliable Narrators: Sitting Bull’s Circus Horse,” Montana The Magazine of Western History 45 (1995): 64-74.
    Robert W. Larson, “Part 1: Red Cloud The Warrior Years,” Montana The Magazine of Western History 47 (1997): 22-31.
    Dorothy M. Johnson, “Ghost Dance: Last Hope of the Sioux,” Montana The Magazine of Western History 6 (1956): 42-50.
    James O. Gump, “The Little Bighorn in Comparative Perspective” in The Dust Rose Like Smoke.
    Jessie B. Campbell, “Sitting Bull’s Family,” Montana The Magazine of Western History 14 (1964), 92.
    Raymond J. DeMallie, “The Lakota Ghost Dance: An Ethnohistorical Account,” Pacific Historical Review 51 (1982): 385-405.
    Karen A. Bearer, “The ‘Illustrated American’ and the Lakota Ghost Dance,” American Periodicals 21 (2011): 143-163
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Komentáře • 157

  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  Před měsícem +22

    Thank you so much for watching! You can watch The Cult of Mithras from our Secret Societies series 1 week early on Nebula ad-free! nebula.tv/videos/extrahistory-the-cult-of-mithras-secret-societies-1 Just click the link and be prepared to learn about some weird history!

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před měsícem +2

      You guys are the Best 😊😊😊❤❤

    • @Gosh..
      @Gosh.. Před měsícem +1

      Cool

    • @MPbmfm
      @MPbmfm Před měsícem

      Buffaloes are not bisons!!!!

    • @WhataMensch
      @WhataMensch Před měsícem +1

      One veteran against genocide spreading the message of another...
      “Many of us like to ask ourselves, 'What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?' The answer is, you’re doing it. Right now,” -Aaron Bushnell

    • @WhataMensch
      @WhataMensch Před měsícem +1

      One veteran against genocide spreading the message of another...
      “Many of us like to ask ourselves, 'What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?' The answer is, you’re doing it. Right now,” -Aaron Bushnell
      Joe Biden does not support this message

  • @benjaminlanham9454
    @benjaminlanham9454 Před měsícem +112

    This is the first time youtube showed me your sitting bull videos in my recommendations. So now I get to go watch all your videos be back in an hour

    • @Sol-Invictus
      @Sol-Invictus Před měsícem +2

      Get on the PBS stuff the algorithm seems to lean pretty decent like this. I'd suggest Isaac Arthur personally. Gets my grey matter cooking.

  • @user-fq5mw9vs9o
    @user-fq5mw9vs9o Před měsícem +70

    I never ask "why didn't I learn this in school" because I was edumacated in Texas. I know full-well why I wasn't taught a lot of things.

    • @michaelmurphree4972
      @michaelmurphree4972 Před měsícem +13

      But we can name all four presidents of the Republic of Texas!

    • @Asahamana
      @Asahamana Před měsícem +2

      Because they told you all about propane and propane accessories.
      All I know about The Texas.

    • @Zima431
      @Zima431 Před měsícem +1

      Did you intentionally misspell „educated“?

    • @user-fq5mw9vs9o
      @user-fq5mw9vs9o Před měsícem +6

      @@Zima431 Yes. Because God blessed Texas! 🔫🤠🔫

    • @sagalahmed8370
      @sagalahmed8370 Před měsícem

      😂😂😂😂

  • @ryanthornton8159
    @ryanthornton8159 Před měsícem +52

    What you said at the end about Native Americans and how the West is usually talked about reminded me of something. Theres a book called Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy. The book is pretty much the opposite of what you said. It’s supposed to a more realistic depiction of how the West was. The story is based of the Glanton Gang. It’s REALLY bloody and disturbing. There’s slurs and brutal massacres of Mexicans, Natives, and Whites, with bloody descriptions. Pretty much the entire book is traveling from place to place and killing some locals over and over. Part of the meaning of the book is philosophical, but the main point is showing the bloodiness of the American West and getting rid of the adventure myth.

    • @palehorseman8386
      @palehorseman8386 Před měsícem

      Sounds like a pack of murder hobos

    • @agilemind6241
      @agilemind6241 Před měsícem +1

      @@palehorseman8386 That is what you always get when the enforcement of the law is abandoned, which was a significant part of Manifest Destiny. Because if there is no law then whomever shoots first or shoots the most is the law.

    • @palehorseman8386
      @palehorseman8386 Před měsícem +4

      @@agilemind6241 That's called lawlessness. It wasn't peculiar to Manifest Destiny. It was just the American flavor of it

  • @jonathanscott7372
    @jonathanscott7372 Před měsícem +23

    Where ever you are, history is often taught to make you patriotic, concentrating on the positive, and ignoring the negative. A question I often used in England, was to ask, "Can you name a battle that Napoleon won?" I hardly ever had an answer. They knew Trafalgar and Waterloo, but no battle Napoleon won.

    • @majormidget2704
      @majormidget2704 Před měsícem +1

      One of the reasons for that is probably because Napoleon's major victories came against other nations that Britain was in coalition with, thus they aren't going to be as relevant to a British audience when learning about those wars.

    • @intergalactic92
      @intergalactic92 Před měsícem +1

      All of them….. up until 1812.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 18 dny +1

      In USSR and post-Soviet history, children are taught Napoleon "lost" Borodino... you know, the battle that routed russian army all the way to leningrad, and russian colonizers lost moscow without a fight soon after. IN WHAT UNIVERSE IS RETREATING SO FAR YOU LOSE YOUR BIGGEST CITY A VICTORY?!

  • @lesleymckenzie8721
    @lesleymckenzie8721 Před měsícem +26

    I am a history teacher in the UK and it was really interesting to hear that you teach a lot of local history whilst perhaps more could be on indigenous history. In the UK we teach Native American history to age 11 and 12 years and again as a module for A level at age 16 - 18 years. Thanks for your excellent episodes.

    • @acethesupervillain348
      @acethesupervillain348 Před měsícem +2

      The truth is that we can't possibly teach about "Native Americans" as a whole. That would be like lumping all of Europe, the Levant and North Africa into a single culture. Each US State had dozens of native cultures living there. So we each learn our own local piece of it, the cultures and people who were important to our local area.

    • @wendychavez5348
      @wendychavez5348 Před 17 dny

      Thank you for everything you do, @lesleymckenzie8721! The world needs more interesting history instructors!

  • @Nostripe361
    @Nostripe361 Před měsícem +31

    I feel a problem with learning native history in the us is that some people become really defensive over the issues brought up with it.

    • @tecpaocelotl
      @tecpaocelotl Před měsícem +7

      Same with civil war.

    • @CentristDad155
      @CentristDad155 Před měsícem +1

      Yes, and that is sad because it is History. We should learn it so we do not repeat mistakes from the past.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 18 dny +1

      @@CentristDad155 how can you avoid mistakes of taking over natives land, erasing majority of them from existence and throwing them into reservation when you are enjoying the spoils? Like it's still an ongoing process, I don't see any movement of returning the settlers back into slums of Hamburg or something... Shakespeare pretty much summed it up (of course he did) in Hamlet, when Claudius is praying, he says:
      My fault is past. But, O, what form of prayer
      Can serve my turn? “Forgive me my foul murder”?
      That cannot be, since I am still possessed
      Of those effects for which I did the murder:
      My crown, mine own ambition, and my queen.
      May one be pardoned and retain th’ offense?
      You can't REALLY stop repeating offenses when you are directly profiting from them... Did USA even pay reparations? Like Germans and Japanese understand they won't bring the dead back, but they at least trying to do something to the ones they hurt, in fact I am pretty sure Americans forced both to pay... but never issues major reparations for slavery or colonization, you know, just for starters.

    • @CentristDad155
      @CentristDad155 Před 18 dny

      @@KasumiRINA The vast majority of native peoples were killed by diseases from Africa, Europe and Asia. A very horrible thing. As much as 95% were killed by these diseases.

    • @wendychavez5348
      @wendychavez5348 Před 17 dny

      My first love is of the 2nd most secretive Pueblo tribe in New Mexico, and he's adamant that teaching Native history has done more harm than good. I see his pov, though in my opinion more accurate knowledge can only help.

  • @chrismahanna8101
    @chrismahanna8101 Před měsícem +27

    I'm from Connecticut, and out American History courses always talked about things like King Philips war and the conflict between indigenous people and settlers in the North East, but no so much out west.

    • @thecallankids4718
      @thecallankids4718 Před 29 dny

      I'm also from connecticut, and I had the exact opposite experience. Almost as if we pretended our role in the many genocides was ignored. Not that I disbelieve you, of course.

    • @chrismahanna8101
      @chrismahanna8101 Před 27 dny

      @@thecallankids4718 Maybe my AP US History teacher just made sure to teach us about it because he thought it was important.

  • @hopelover7023
    @hopelover7023 Před měsícem +19

    You're very right about the local deal when it comes to US public schools. I live in Montana and definitely learned most of what was in this series in highschool.

  • @BeaglzRok1
    @BeaglzRok1 Před měsícem +11

    As someone that's been waiting for the new Magic: the Gathering set that's heavily western-inspired, it's definitely weird how they simultaneously took both the "There wasn't anyone here beforehand, so there's no colonization parallels." route as well as the "These cactusfolk are from the area, but only became sapient once civilization showed up." path. It's already billed as a set prominently featuring villains, have the bad guys earn the ire of natives and take some losses, it'd've been so easy if they just had the teensiest faith in themselves.

    • @ericbnielsen
      @ericbnielsen Před měsícem

      Did anyone else notice the War Hammer 40 K stuff behind him.

  • @michaelmurphree4972
    @michaelmurphree4972 Před měsícem +7

    Regarding the translation of names, it is likely the translation is verbatim accurate. However as with all translations the cultural meaning behind the words/names is likely missing. But this happens in any translation. “Sitting Bull” may be accurate, but what the name implies is sadly lost to the English ear.

  • @AndrewJohnson-oy8oj
    @AndrewJohnson-oy8oj Před měsícem +9

    7:50 Human beings have an instinct not to hit other human beings. There is an entire chapter on this in "On Killing by David Grossman. It was not until the American Civil War that a concentrated study was done on what an incredibly high percentage of rifle shots, even fired by two groups which hate each other, miss due to this reflex. It was after the Civil War that the psychological military training to overcome this reflex was developed.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 18 dny

      It was debunked many times, and you can see modern war footage that any gamer with a joystick who got ZERO psychological conditioning, will aim drone straight at an invader's bottom, the only reason they missed a lot before were bad early firearms. With an AK74, AR platform, or an FPV drone, everyone aims to kill.

  • @LEEboneisDaMan
    @LEEboneisDaMan Před měsícem +8

    Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee

  • @Liam_Mellon
    @Liam_Mellon Před měsícem +3

    This was a super interesting LIES episode and it's made one thing abundantly clear, we need more native american history series asap

  • @DirectPolarXD
    @DirectPolarXD Před měsícem +16

    Thanks to the extra history team for these absolutly amazing videos, yall are very cool!

  • @ryanrichards3744
    @ryanrichards3744 Před měsícem +11

    Y’all should do more Civil War episodes

  • @dogood8750
    @dogood8750 Před měsícem +8

    I'm from Florida they do teach Native American history but it's more localized so I learned a lot about the Seminoles not much about anything else on Native American culture

  • @HenryThree
    @HenryThree Před měsícem +1

    My typical assumption when someone asks "why didn't we learn this in school?" is that they did, they just weren't paying attention or forgot. It's rare that I hear someone ask that in regards to something that I don't remember covering at least briefly at some point in K-12, and I doubt my schools were that much better than usual. It particularly blows my mind when it comes to things related to the Holocaust, a topic we covered literally every single year.

  • @moonbow-07
    @moonbow-07 Před měsícem +5

    i luved this seriez ! great work yall 👏

  • @1-TheRegularCowgirl-1
    @1-TheRegularCowgirl-1 Před měsícem +5

    So excited to watch this!! I love history!

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před měsícem +15

    This series was AMAZING guys!

    • @wendynordstrom3487
      @wendynordstrom3487 Před měsícem

      It really was! He's very well spoken too.

    • @WhataMensch
      @WhataMensch Před měsícem +2

      Yeah this was a good series. Can the next one be on the history of Gaza up to the current genocide being perpetrated by Israel

    • @Gwynbleidd503
      @Gwynbleidd503 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah do a Palestine episode

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před měsícem +4

    Always look forward to your videos 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @stormy7745
    @stormy7745 Před měsícem +1

    Really enjoyed this series and looking forward to the next one. While high school was about 15 years ago for me, as a Canadian who grew up in Québec, my history classes were definitely locally focused. Learned very little about the western provinces, and what we learned about the Martimes was mostly from the colonial period (New-France) and a little during the forming of the confederation. All that to say, it's probably a fair assessment to say that history classes are localised

  • @ecurewitz
    @ecurewitz Před měsícem +3

    In Massachusetts, we learned a lot about King Philip’s War

  • @KyleRayner12
    @KyleRayner12 Před měsícem +2

    His note about regional US history is *very* true. I'm from MA, so we covered the American Revolution (Boston "Massacre," Stamp Act, Intolerable Acts, Constitutional Convention, etc.) ad nauseum every year, but everything that happened to Plains tribes was mentioned twice, if I'm generous, and one of those was just contrasting different indigenous cultures rather than historical events.
    Frankly, I think it's a ridiculous way to teach history. Apart from the careful whitewashing of everything the US government ever did, repeating the same 10 or so historical points to "connect kids to local history" just makes the subject stale and alienating. I didn't start to enjoy history until I started taking AP courses and got to broaden my scope a little.

  • @leosorghum6867
    @leosorghum6867 Před měsícem +2

    The answer to "why wasn't i tought this in school" is almost always "because something else was more important." Like, yeah, maybe you think learning this specific portion of westward expansion is more important than WWII, but most other people disagree.

    • @perchperkins06
      @perchperkins06 Před měsícem +1

      Usually US history is taught at a completely different grade and class tho. I was taught US history in 4th grade and 8th grade. Taught WWII history in high school. Would have been nice to learn more Native history when we were already learning US history.

  • @Gittykitty
    @Gittykitty Před měsícem

    I think I had a pretty well rounded history lesson, since I was home school during my highschool years. It went into indigenous, colonies, and what lead into modernism. Not to mention world history.

  • @bearcb
    @bearcb Před měsícem +7

    The Jesuits who came to Brazil in the 16th century learned the native American languages, wrote a dictionary to/from Portuguese, thought the indigenous people and even translated the Gospel.

    • @colinsheehan2063
      @colinsheehan2063 Před měsícem +1

      My grandfather was one of those Jesuits, told a lot of awesome stories before he died last year. R.I.P. 🙏

    • @krispyier
      @krispyier Před měsícem +1

      Your grandfather had children as a priest? Was he ordained after he had children?

    • @colinsheehan2063
      @colinsheehan2063 Před měsícem +2

      @@krispyier something like that

  • @bigidea121
    @bigidea121 Před měsícem

    I grew in in New Jersey so a lot of Native American history lessons in elementary and middle school focused on the Lenni Lenape.

  • @msdaphne
    @msdaphne Před měsícem

    This is sooo true about the concentrated history in the states. Particularly in 4th grade its a thing.I learned one state's history when I was a kid. Then my kids (and I) learned another. Now, I have a kid in college at your Alma Mater, and he tells me about the required cultural history he is learning.

  • @jeremyreff6511
    @jeremyreff6511 Před měsícem

    I almost never watched the "lies" episode but I feel like this one will be important

  • @KiernanRenaud
    @KiernanRenaud Před měsícem +3

    Could there be a Louis Riel series???

  • @themangomanjuice
    @themangomanjuice Před 25 dny

    Very interesting stuff!

  • @imbyron5356
    @imbyron5356 Před měsícem

    Could you guys update your chronological playlists? I really want to watch it again.

  • @AndreiChirila-wl7ou
    @AndreiChirila-wl7ou Před měsícem

    Last summer I visited the National Museum of the American Indian in Washington DC. While most of it was dedicated to various cultures and displayed artefacts and various ways in which the Federal Government treated them along the way, one entire level was dedicated to how Native American images were then used for marketing purposes, we all know the example of a tobacco company. It was quite shocking after seeing all the various cultures that settlers pushed out of the way, seeing them used by the descendants of those settlers in order to flog consumer goods

  • @kts8900
    @kts8900 Před měsícem

    Caitlyn Dougherty on Ask a Mortician did a freaking amazing episode on cannibalism in whaling.

  • @TheRunningLeopard
    @TheRunningLeopard Před měsícem

    As someone who lives in the Midwest (Iowa) and graduated from highschool around half a decade ago, from what I can remember, none of this was covered discounting the death of Custard. I live in a fairly rural area but what was basically covered was just a quick run through of everything from pilgrims to just before or stopping at 9/11.

  • @MomentsInTrading
    @MomentsInTrading Před měsícem

    Interesting series 👍🏻

  • @wolf2912
    @wolf2912 Před měsícem +3

    Can you do videos about other famous authors like hc Andersen, Astrid Lindgren or cs lewis

  • @jonlee6794
    @jonlee6794 Před měsícem +2

    HOW IS IT I AM JUST FINDING OUT THAT YOU WROTE TRAZYN AND ORIKAN'S CRAZY C'TAN CAPER?!?!

    • @brutalusgaming8809
      @brutalusgaming8809 Před měsícem

      I had read the books and am a sub here and one day saw the book sitting on the desk and was like !!!!!!!!! I have now read all his 40K stuff. It is all top tier.

  • @VapidVulpes
    @VapidVulpes Před 10 dny

    Heck yeah! Shout out to going school in hawaii! :)
    I grad 06 from moanalua, and record R Kevin's band oil in the alley from time to time :)
    It's cool seeing the connections to home on such a boss channel!

  • @LasertechStudios3142
    @LasertechStudios3142 Před měsícem +1

    17:15 One of my favorite science fiction novels actually utilizes the concepts 9; Manifest Destiny when creating its “villain” nation. The destructive and scary enemy in that series is a western style parliamentary democracy anchored on the ideology of unification. This rampant imperialist expansionism in the name of spreading “civilization” and unifying the human sphere eventually ends with the entire rest of humanity fighting against them.

  • @narvuntien
    @narvuntien Před měsícem +1

    Magic the Gathering just had a set based on the Wild West and... just removed the ingenious people from the setting completely.

  • @Ellerion2
    @Ellerion2 Před měsícem +1

    I have seen Bluejay's video on the russian voyage noone speaks about; i wonder how extra history would put it. The second russian pacific squadron had me laughing all the way...

  • @wabekonabe8449
    @wabekonabe8449 Před 27 dny

    Regarding the names and translation. The simplified translation is usually fine, but we must remember that the Lakotah names are anchored in real experiences.

  • @I_forgot3
    @I_forgot3 Před měsícem +1

    Y’all gotta do the story of Ishi

  • @collettetovee8964
    @collettetovee8964 Před měsícem

    it is interesting that manifest destiny is not a bigger part of American history that was taught. In high school and university (90's), it was often referenced when talking about US/BNA/Canadian relations, particularly before 1867 (Canadian Confederation).

  • @WhataMensch
    @WhataMensch Před měsícem +5

    WIll you make a video on the history of palestine up to the current gen_0cide?

    • @Gwynbleidd503
      @Gwynbleidd503 Před měsícem +1

      Plus

    • @FleurMarigold
      @FleurMarigold Před měsícem +3

      indeed, the history of Palestine draws many parallels with the colonial, genocidal history of the US. in fact, some texts sourced from designers and perpetrators of the original regime even reference the history of the US as guidelines for the territorial establishment project. since many are uneducated about this, I think it would be really important and powerful to use a historical education platform to bring public awareness to the century-long atrocities and injustices committed to the Palestinian people on their land.

  • @feartheamish9183
    @feartheamish9183 Před měsícem

    From Ohio 20 years ago HS too. Heavily covered the Indian wars against the eastern woodland tribes.

  • @greggbarkerr1150
    @greggbarkerr1150 Před měsícem +1

    Learned about the local tribes in the region during elementary school. Middle school it was a footnote and in high school we didn’t learn anything about the with the exception of my US history teacher would put on a documentary video about Native Americans as punishment to the class if his lesson where getting interrupted.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 18 dny

      Watching videos about Native Americans instead of studying boring dates and contracts as PUNISHMENT in history class? We'd absolutely sabotage every lesson to watch TV lol.

    • @greggbarkerr1150
      @greggbarkerr1150 Před 18 dny

      @@KasumiRINA yeah sadly thats what happened. Thankfully my dad was fan history so most of what I learned about Native American comes from him through various documentaries, novels, and radio programs.

  • @cozytoe
    @cozytoe Před měsícem +2

    re your bookshelf: Cadia Stands.

  • @michaelmurphree4972
    @michaelmurphree4972 Před měsícem

    Regarding the translation of names, it is likely the translation is verbatim accurate. However as with all translations the cultural meaning behind the words/names is likely missing. But this happens in any translation.

  • @ASpaceOstrich
    @ASpaceOstrich Před měsícem +2

    Its always bugged me how indigenous names and language get translated into English differently to other languages. Its a topic I'm normally afraid to mention because to be blunt, the translation tends to read as lesser than, and I don't want someone going "aha, you think indigenous people are lesser". It might just be a lack of knowledge on my part, but the one that comes to mind is that here in Australia, pretty much the only indigenous language translation you come across is the phrase "welcome to country". Not "welcome to the country" or "welcome to our country" or any normal english way of phrasing it. Its specifically brief, guttural, and reminiscent of how cavemen get depicted in fiction. And I can't help but think this has its roots in prejudice.
    I'm guessing "country" translates from a word that refers to tribal territory with deep cultural context associated with it. I'm aware of the fact that aboriginal australian cultures viewed land and "ownership" of it very differently to the colonisers. And I can see how this could cause an indigenous word that refers to tribal territory that doesn't have a great english analogue. But I *don't* think that "country" is the closest english equivalent. I think if no english word worked, then an indigenous word should have been directly incorporated into english.
    I get similar vibes with Native American language translations, though not as often. Sitting Bull as a name just sounds less, well, civilised than western names. And yes, I'm *very* aware of the embedded cultural reason why things that sound primitive are associated with negativity in our culture, but thats not the point I'm trying to make. The point is that we don't translate other languages that way. If you dig into the etymology of english names you can find their origins and pull out the original term or phrase that the name was based on. And while it won't have the same gravitas that an indigenous name will have, you can probably find a way to shorten it to something similar. "Heroic young man who tans leather" would be an example of such an etymology deep dive, and would result in the name "Tanning Hero". But we don't call our kids "Tanning Hero" in English. Such a person would instead be called "Alexander Tanner".
    Localisation. That's the word I was looking for. It bugs me that we don't localise indigenous language when translating it to English when we do localise all other languages, because that lack of localisation tends to make the resulting words break some of the usual conventions of English, which is associated with broken English i.e. poorly spoken English by someone who doesn't know the language well, which is in turn associated, however erroneously that may be, with lesser intelligence in our culture.
    I'm not saying its a bad thing we don't localise indigenous language, I'm actually a big advocate for non localised translation of media that instead features an accompanying document that you can check terms against as you watch it. Though I suppose thats another topic where there can be a presumption of malice, so I might have shot myself in the foot by mentioning that. What I am saying is that the fact that we don't localise indigenous language has an effect on how it gets viewed by people. And I've always noticed this fact but never seen any actual discussion about it so its left me feeling like theres a conversation that hasn't been had out of fear.

  • @wendychavez5348
    @wendychavez5348 Před 17 dny

    My first love is a new Mexico native from the 2nd most closed Pueblo extant (Santa Ana Pueblo), and the fact that the New Mexico tribes, especially the Pueblos, don't share their culture with outsiders, is one of the major reasons that they'd survived. I would love to learn more about indigenous rubes on all levels, though I do respect when certain tribes keep their culture so close to the best that learning is nearly impossible. It's sad, but in some cases true, that allowing outsiders to know has caused irrevocable changes in many cultures. So I'm voting Ckearly Ambiguous on the question of teaching more indigenous history.

  • @nejohnson9894
    @nejohnson9894 Před měsícem

    My US history covered early colonies (mostly northern), revolution, and the civil war and then repeated that sequence every year without adding anything more.

  • @Mixtwins-fd3oz
    @Mixtwins-fd3oz Před měsícem

    Your next video should be about Vikings

  • @Dimitri29263
    @Dimitri29263 Před měsícem +1

    Yooo extra history do a history video of the coal fields of Kentucky and all the sad things that happened there

  • @mikebauer6917
    @mikebauer6917 Před měsícem +1

    I grew up in Montana and North Dakota and didn’t learn much about indigenous history.

  • @tmdblya
    @tmdblya Před měsícem

    I love Disneyland, too, but Frontierland and Adventureland are INCREDIBLY problematic.

  • @Purple-ishblue
    @Purple-ishblue Před 3 dny

    Sitting bull is some really tasty ice cream, too. Not even joking.

  • @ningenJMK
    @ningenJMK Před měsícem +1

    I await the lies video at the end of every series. To find out how you've deceived me.

  • @epinefren94
    @epinefren94 Před měsícem +1

    Sorry I have to um actually you here, modern rifles are great at 50-150m even with iron sights as long as soldiers are trained properly. However, good point about these soldiers trying to avoid getting hit themselves

  • @user-cv8uf6fh2k
    @user-cv8uf6fh2k Před měsícem

    Can you please do King Moshoeshoe I

  • @perchperkins06
    @perchperkins06 Před měsícem

    I grew up in the Midwest on the Great Lakes, and we were taught what Indigenous peoples live / lived in my area, but we were not taught about any of their history during or after colonialism bc they didn't want to make the US govt look bad which is sad

  • @d_range211
    @d_range211 Před měsícem

    Aloha from Hawai’i

  • @dragonsguardianofcrystalhearts

    Idk..I heard sitting bull and geronimo had done type of supernatural thing going on with them.

  • @franny11786
    @franny11786 Před měsícem

    If I remember correctly at little Bighorn the US cavalry was using trapdoor Springfields which are single shot rifles that fired a large 45-70 govt round. The thought process was that troops wernt disciplined enough to conserve their ammo.
    This may have had some truth. One of the standard operating procedures of the cavalry upon dismounting was to form multiple skirmishing lines of several mean each spaced several meters apart. However during the battle they moved closer and closer together. It's natural instinct if you subconsciously feel increasingly isolated and overwhelmed during combat to gravitate closer and closer to your comrads as it feels safer. However in this new age of maneuver warfare which the Indians were much better at this makes units more vulnerable as the enemy can focus a larger volume of their fire in a smaller area and inflict more casualties. Add to that the fact that the lack of dispersion means you theoretically cant cover as large of an area giving you're enemy more room to maneuver.
    OK but what does this have to do with soldiers conserving their ammo? Well nothing directly, however if the soldiers broke down their formations and made tactical errors out of fear, would it really be that much of a stretch to think they may expend more ammo than they probably should? You see this in combat or even gunfights on the street a lot even today in that people usually respond with large volume of fire aka "spray and pray" as opposed to returning more deliberate accurate fire.
    On the flip side many of the Indians used the Henry model 1860 rifle which (as mentioned) was a lever action repeating rifle shooting the smaller .44 rimfire which could be fired multiple times in the same amount of time it took a soldier to fire 1 single round, and reload another. As a result even with many of the Indians not using guns the war party was still brought more firepower to the fight than the US Cavalry.
    Anyway I'm not a historian or an expert by any means so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Lol

    • @carlpetersen3147
      @carlpetersen3147 Před 18 dny

      What you wrote is pretty close to the army report on the battle done in 80s.
      Another thing to look at is the Battle of the Rosebud a week earlier on June 17 where the Lakota and Cheyenne attacked Gen Crooks column coming from the southeast and fought them to a stalemate with low casualties on both sides but expending most of the calvarys ammo, Crook was probably only saved by his 300 Crow Scouts.

  • @pozzowon
    @pozzowon Před měsícem

    8:00 unless your name is Simo Hayha

  • @user-ji7kn3ul3v
    @user-ji7kn3ul3v Před měsícem

    Please cover the Freemasons!

  • @christopherdeguilio6375
    @christopherdeguilio6375 Před měsícem +1

    Whaling?
    Please!

  • @silveryuno
    @silveryuno Před měsícem

    How the US treated the Native Americans vs How Spain treated the Native Americans never stops being shoking to me...

  • @mxolisimoto302
    @mxolisimoto302 Před měsícem

    I was the 100th like🎉🎉🎉

  • @sammcfarlane2494
    @sammcfarlane2494 Před měsícem

    Can you do the Rebellion of Lucifer please?

  • @tecpaocelotl
    @tecpaocelotl Před měsícem

    I think sitting bull is your best.

  • @Harminder1
    @Harminder1 Před měsícem

    I'm not sure if the war of Canada is the 1812 war but if it is One interesting thing I have seen in Cardiff castle is a flag that was captured from the war.

    • @Noahscape31
      @Noahscape31 Před měsícem

      Likely the US invasion of British Canada during the independence war

    • @carlpetersen3147
      @carlpetersen3147 Před 18 dny

      There were some Dakota involved in the war of 1812 on the British Side. What's talked about here is Sitting Bulls exile in Canada from 1876-1881

  • @AubriGryphon
    @AubriGryphon Před měsícem

    With regards to how portrayals of native cultures seem to always include the sense of exoticization, I have struggled with that when planning adventures in D&D and the like. I try to avoid making fantasy cultures too specific -- like for a group of lizardfolk I might take inspiration from Maya jewelry and architecture, but I try not to make it just Disneyland Maya with the serial numbers scratched off. And yet I'm still using Maya elements as a mark of "otherness" in comparison to the presumed "normal" of Medieval-to-Renaissance European styles.
    I don't have a good solution for this. It just bothers me.

  • @jamiew.pokeprism
    @jamiew.pokeprism Před měsícem

    I grew up in Oklahoma's public education system, and even graduated in 2020, but even with everything that happened on what became that state, most of what was taught in history classes was SEVERELY lacking in stories from minorities/the oppressed. Too many books with BIPOC and LGBT+ authors are banned (including Frederick Douglass's autobiography), on top of the lacklustre books they select for the World Wars (The Boy In Striped Pajamas being frighteningly common for talking about the Holocaust since MAUS is banned in several districts). On a happier note, your videos were what got me wanting to be a world history focused teacher once I'm out of school. Keep being awesome!

  • @Whoyouwishyouwere
    @Whoyouwishyouwere Před měsícem

    Do Geronimo next or else

  • @caroldumond7001
    @caroldumond7001 Před měsícem +2

    Why don't you do a series about Frances Perkins? She was interesting and inspiring (at least to girls and women), and it would be a good way to talk about the state of American labor around the turn of the century, including the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire, without totally depressing the audience.

    • @midwinter78
      @midwinter78 Před měsícem

      There was a good episode on the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire.

  • @zoedoumaux2600
    @zoedoumaux2600 Před měsícem

    Can you do Pocahontas

  • @amdreallyfast
    @amdreallyfast Před měsícem +1

    "Even with modern rifles it's really hard to hit a target at 80-100 meters with just iron sights."
    Sir. A trained army medic can make that shot.
    High precision rifled barrels with high precision ammunition were not available at the time though. Rifles were only recently entering mass production a few years earlier, but many standard issue rifles were mass produced breach loaders firing ball ammunition (I think; need a historian to verify). The best rifles with brass cartridges weren't standard issue yet.
    Don't know about the armament of that particular army unit though.
    I'm guessing that the misses were more due to:
    (1) Quality of the rifles
    (2) Quality of the bullets
    (3) Significantly less training time making precision shots and much more time spent marching in formation and firing a salvo at the same time in the general direction of your enemy
    (4) Your other thought that the army guys are getting shot at by Lakota warriors and no one is taking a lot of time to line up a shot

  • @vinchester8688
    @vinchester8688 Před měsícem +3

    Attempt 22 of asking for a Musafa Kemal Ataturk video

  • @slendermansmoom
    @slendermansmoom Před měsícem

    spy gaming

  • @acethesupervillain348
    @acethesupervillain348 Před měsícem

    I'm disappointed by the decision to pursue 4 episode series and more one-offs. The strength of YT documentaries and this channel historically has been the ability to go deep into obscure topics. When the stories are too short, we might as well just read the wikipedia articles instead of watch your show.

  • @EGSBiographies-om1wb
    @EGSBiographies-om1wb Před měsícem

    98th

  • @munumun
    @munumun Před měsícem

    so manifest destiny stuff is kind of similiar to what happens in east of Mediterranean Sea nowadays huh?

  • @Screamerofthestars
    @Screamerofthestars Před měsícem

    Men

  • @ParanoydYT
    @ParanoydYT Před měsícem +1

    First

  • @johnconner7813
    @johnconner7813 Před měsícem

    Sounds like manifest destiny is exactly like every other colonialism push

  • @MPbmfm
    @MPbmfm Před měsícem +3

    Buffaloes are not bisions!!!!

  • @JS-ey2pd
    @JS-ey2pd Před 7 dny

    One.ping.only.

  • @Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation

    If I were to spread lies about Sitting Bull, would that mean I'm Shitting Bull?

  • @notoriousrapscallion
    @notoriousrapscallion Před měsícem

    Hohoho

  • @525Lines
    @525Lines Před měsícem +2

    Everybody's ancestry has a history of taking your neighbor's stuff because you can, though not every culture has a history as wonderfully detailed and well-recorded as the US. Doesn't justify the behavior but as a point of fact, we all have blood on our hands.

    • @FleurMarigold
      @FleurMarigold Před měsícem +5

      settler-colonialism and mass genocide are a little bit more specific than violently stealing from neighbouring territories and committing bloodshed, though. Patrick Wolfe, a scholar on the subject, has often emphasized that settler-colonialism is a structure - not an event. it is very intentionally designed to forge a specific relationship between settler and Native, which holds the ultimate goal of subduing or wholly eliminating the Native population to pave way for the colonists - whether by massacre, starvation, disease, forced infertility, cultural erasure and/or forced acclimation to the culture of the colonists.
      the US is unique in that it is a country forged entirely on these practices, and would not exist as it does today were it not for the genocide of the Native Americans. New Zealand/Aotearoa is another example of a country resulting from a settler-colonial structure. I'm from the UK, and while we have other violent historical conflicts too, a huge portion of our history can be defined by routine territorial expansionist colonialism. it's important that we recognize these instances as being notably discernable from more generalized historical conflicts and battles, because while historical conflicts would have left survivors, settler-colonialism is always enacted with the intention of completely controlling or wiping out the Native population for the benefit of the colonists.
      it's also important that we use the right language and approach this subject from the right mindset, because settler-colonialism is not a thing of the past - it is still very much happening, and still definitively devastating the lives of Indigenous and Native descendants, who are still fighting for their rights to land, food, autonomy, protection, safety, recognition, and ultimately the right to self-determination - including political influence and advocacy in the now predominantly non-Native political systems that rule over their violently stolen land.

  • @user-ck6ow6kr9e
    @user-ck6ow6kr9e Před měsícem

    I understand the Russophobe

  • @dinoco3672
    @dinoco3672 Před měsícem

    Lies

  • @hefestus2012
    @hefestus2012 Před měsícem

    Is blame baby five now?

  • @Aaronschannels
    @Aaronschannels Před měsícem +1

    80-100 yards is not that hard of a shot with irons

  • @theparegorickid23
    @theparegorickid23 Před měsícem

    ok I know this is a meme but… 650 VIEWS!?!?! IN 11 MINUTES!?!?!?!!

  • @IliyaMoroumetz
    @IliyaMoroumetz Před měsícem +4

    Careful, guys, talking about Native American history might be considered too 'woke' for some people. You can be cash money this stuff would be banned in Florida.