The Witcher ATTACKS Fans Too STUPID To Praise it
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- čas přidán 4. 08. 2023
- The Witcher Season 3 Netflix series features Henry Cavill as Geralt of Rivia. But as Henry Cavill leaves The Witcher and showrunner Lauren Hissrich to be replaced by Liam Hemsworth in Season 4. What are the producers and writers saying about the fans? Are fans too stupid to understand the complexity of The Witcher books? Or is the truth about The Witchers possible cancellation after series 3, a bit closer to home. Is Season 3 of The Witcher on Netflix worth watching?
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The Witcher Season 3 is now over on Netflix, but once more the cast and producers can't keep quiet to blame the fans for their own failings. This time seemingly saying the general public are too stupid to understand the complexities of the books so they had to dumb it down, or so I thought. This video was a bit off as I change my mind as I film it, and now I'm not sure he's actually talking about the fans, but more generalising Americans from his experiences with the staff to the whole nation. Which is odd, because if it is the latter not only is it funny, I'd agree! But who do you think he's talking about? What do you think about the showrunners obsession with forcing side characters to replace Henry Cavill? Let me know your thoughts down below, and as always, thanks for watching :)
Never read the books, quite a fan of the games. Big fan of yours. Greetings from México.
Were racist, sexist, misogynistic and now we are just plain too fucking dumb to like these dumpster fire shows 😅😅
They had to dumb down the shows because the audience was too dumb to understand the complexities of the books? So 33 million copies of the books have been sold so the purchasers could use them to drive nails into boards with them? I suppose the 75 million Witcher 3 games were sold because the customers liked the title screen music and graphics due to the fact that the games were too complex to understand as well, or at least the few smart enough to install the games did.
Who in the world would watch a medieval African show? 🤯
@@neillindgren8992see you already think at a higher level than them. This is what you get when rationality becomes anathema.
The irony of them calling us stupid, when they can’t even follow the plot that’s already been laid out for them in the books!
I know, it's paint by numbers. It's not like you have to come up with an original idea....which is considering what constitutes an 'original idea' for these clowns....
This been the pain of the DC Comics characters at WB.
I lay awake at night wondering what I'm doing wrong. I'm a wreck. If only I could see the genius.
Well because they think they're smarter then the author... which is why he has a franchise they're piggybacking off of, and they're scraping the bottom of the barrel. After all, no one thought of that before!
Even more ironic considering the amount of prejudice required to make such a statement. I guess it’s okay to conflate the government and the people when you’re talking about the US? Idk.. I thought that kind of shit was problematic
If an actor keeps saying he/she wants to find himself/her self in the character, instead of representing the character, you know the series is doomed.
edit: thanks for the 1k likes
Become an investor. Hear these words. Invest into the downside of said company
an actors job is to become someone they arent. not the other way around, i hate when actors try to make the character into themselves
@@-Hari-03 correct. It's WORK. It's not about you. It's about the product you're selling.
People used to joke about corporations hiring fanfic writers. This is even worse because it feels like kindergardener playing with their dolls level of writing.
I thought that's what's method acting is for. Getting into the mind set to convincingly play someone who is NOT like you.
Imagine being cast for the role of "the most beautiful woman in the world" and later find out that you were supposed to "challenge the beauty standards". I would be furious.
Crazy because she’s not an ugly woman. She’s a beautiful woman. They’re just insulting her because they’re show is getting pooped on for their choices. So now they deflect it all onto others. Classic narcissist behavior. They’re perfect and everyone else is the ones who are wrong. The writers are like most other writers from Hollywood. The one lady who writes this show HATES the books. And the game.
@@SavedByFaith9981 nah she plain with no talent.
@@catandrobbyflores I don't think she's an amazing actor, but she can sell the role. I also think she is a pretty woman. It's not like they hired a 300lb woman plastered in makeup for her role.
@@catandrobbyflores This time I'd have to say that she was sabotaged by miscasting and horrendous writing. The character is terrible, but it's next to impossible to thrive with what she was given.
@@SavedByFaith9981 no, they claim she challenges standards of beauty because she's brown. Apparently in holywood they can't get it up if the woman's brown. Crazy.
If Henry would reboot this series with himself as the director, he would make a fortune because he would undoubtedly be true to the source material.
That would be great,maybe after Warhammer
Yes!!!! Amazing idea.
Hell yeah!
A...PRIME....Opportunity....if you get my drift.
well the author said henry is the one true geralt and he has made it his own like Viggo did with aragorn so i imagine he could be persuaded
"I didnt see MYself...there was nobody to represent how I saw the world and MY experiences." Of course it's failing, the showrunner is a narcissist.
Someone should have told her to go write her own goddamned book series instead of corrupting an existing one.
I mean Jennifer is a chad and her saying I look like her hell no, Jennifer know her purpose her goals and her dear ones in her life and goes at it with out hesitation to protect everyone and everything she holds dear especially Geralt and Ciri.
and in a way you can see her as a racist, misandrist, etc. because what is not HER features and representations equals bad.
"I can't see myself..." so she decided to write herself, a modern day woman, into a medieval fantasy series with monsters? WTF. Write something that takes place in the modern world.
That’s what I thought from the moment she appeared in every interview. I’ve never seen a show where the showrunner was involved in as much press as she was
If i was an actress and someone casted me to "challenge beauty standards" i would be highly offended
LOL 😅
Well, yes. But you'd take the role anyway because even if the show is absolute crap and the casting director thinks you're ugly af this would be a once in a lifetime chance. You'd be remembered as an absolute nuisance, though if at all but you'd need the money and the opportunity.
But yes, imagine you'd get such a role, everyone effed the perfect book series up, practically everyone of the few who sat through it hate it and only your mum is proud of you - and wants to see your face again. Probably. Or that of Henry. Possibly.
And then the moron responsible for casting you has nothing better to do call you ugly in public and pads herself on the shoulder for it. Oh, the bliss... 😂😹🤣
If you're Anya Chalotra, I don't see how you could take that seriously 🤣
As if actress was not fitting the beauty standerds she is already a European looking women wtf they are saying that to challenge beauty standerds when she is perfectly fitting in that
Yes, but are you actually someone who snatches people's wigs off their heads. As a completely separate thing, its assault if the wigs are actually attached, and can actually cause physical harm. And it's emotional abuse if their wearing the wigs for confidence or self esteem, after having survived cancer, surgery, or one of several other illnesses that can result in hair loss. And snatching someone's wig off in that situation is emotionally and psychologically abusive.
My wife is Polish, and was SO excited to have this show come to be. I was worried that it was going to be ruined by ideologues... And it was. We started watching S3, and it legit broke my heart a bit to see how shit it was, and my wife's reaction. Just all around shit. Least the books are still incredible
Wait… season three is the closest to the books- the only really crappy thing about it was changing Yennifer. Is that what made it so bad for you? What specifically made it crap?
@@ChicNailGeekwas that a real slow part of the books? I haven't read them but s3 was also my least favourite. Seemed like fluff episodes, a episode of them on a boat, a episode of geralt being sick. Lots of drawn out slow episodes.
@@jonagreen7323 spoiler post- in the books he is passed out for a month. But at the same time Jennifer is also completely out of the action it’s all about Ciri. In fact she’s the central character of the books, Jennifer has a pretty small role. I agree about the fluff episodes they didn’t progress the plot much even though it was the most true to the books. The whole season covered a week or so? The first season covered decades. The second season covered months… the pacing is not great.
I didn't go back to part 2 of S3. P1 was so boring being the ciri and yen show playing house
That closest was just mosquito's dick closer.
Indeed they borrowed a lot from source material, the problem is that they had to hammer everything into mold of general script that has little to do with the source. They had to kill Rience by ganging him with crew of three; the aeschna encounter, a black comedy breather in BotE, became short and dull transaction, etc.
The fact she said she couldn't see herself in any of the fantasy magical medieval characters is surprising because on multiple occasions they show humility, ingenuity, bravery, resourcefulness, kindness, strength and many other human traits which make them likable to many audience members. If she cannot relate to any of that but instead changed the story so she could and ended up with someone who was ready to sacrifice a child for her own gain and betray her friend to do it then I'll take her word for it I guess.
SPOT ON!!! 💯
well...in fantasy/medieval shows you don't have feminazism and extreme self centered behavior...so she can take that extreme and un-needed woke female empowerment bullshit to a different show. "I make the show The Witcher, but it is actually about 2 females which are not the center piece of the books or game"...yeah, the audience is the stupid one, lol. she has no idea what female empowerment really means and looks like...
i feel like there´s a comparison in there saying that she identifies with the child sacrifice.... then again i might be wrong
She should probably self sacrifice at this point
adrenochrome junkies be like...
It's always the best business practice to insult the consumer for not enjoying your product.
The marketing courses must be getting defunded at colleges these days, which is how we got here.
Most people in Hollywood are sex perverts. Insults get them off so they just asume the audience wants what makes the writers feel good? Some kinda cuck bdsm shit?
Seems to happen a lot these days though.
This seems to be the latest craze out of these people.
Why O Why accept responsibility for producing a cr@ppy show, when you can just BLAME the people
who actually watch it and have the courage to say,
"sorry sweetie, but this show is garbage"?
Oh to be so privileged, ignorant and disconnected with the real world
Can't remember the source, but I do remember the quote: "A lot of companies went out of business because their customers were too stupid."
I’m a combat veteran and listening to the producers genuine lack of life experience explains a poor show.
They've never stood "nut to butt" in a chow line. 😂 Afghanistan 06-07 and Iraq 07-09.. hooah brother!
@@stevenrider7194i pretty sure they are mostly from the nut to butt "minority"
Thanks for invading and killing people around the world for no reason. What a banger choise
Oh, the producers have a ton of life experience, problem is, it's all marshmallow life experience. lol
As a veteran myself, I don't wish anyone that life experience. I am grateful that there are people like us, who were once too young to understand what we were getting ourselves into. Also, I am glad I am in one piece both mentally and physically, can't say the same for all my mates.
It seems that it's not even the lack combat experience but just going outside experience isn't there. FFS if you want to userp a franchise at least hire somebody who walked outside LA for about 5 meters...
Writing isn’t about putting yourself, your gender, your sexuality, whatever you want to “represent” into a preexisting work… it’s about telling a good story.
its actually to tell not only a good stroy its about telling the preexisting story and hopefully in a good way. in this case they did neither.
Yes
Having a writer's room dominated by people who haven't read and/or don't like the source material is like going to the butcher's for your wedding cake
🤭😂
you Sir, are a prince!
Misquote, though. He somewhat distorted the text he went over.
@@Dowlphin What's the actual quote?
@@NikoJr. I'd have to search now, too, so better watch the video (again) if you want to know all the details. You are the one who didn't pay attention to whether what he said matched the article he went over.
(Although he also followed up once he himself read the whole paragraph.)
"I'm a firm believer of challenging audiences."
They certainly made it a challenge to watch...
😂🤣🙌
The fans have wasted zero minutes on a bad show it took these people multiple months to make. Seems smart to me.
And yet, Neflix are claiming 250 million hours watched for season 3. Their numbers aren't secret. They may not be _true,_, but why aren't we discussing them?
I watched the first two episodes and quit because of a miner inconsistency in the way they edited a scene, where a character seriously hurts her hand and they cut away from her and went on with the scene even though she was in the same room, which for some reason really annoyed me, glad I didn't waste my time on it.
meh, tbh season 1 also was sht yet ppl gave it a good rating...
@@rogerborg No Point discussing their bs with that one
If I had any faith that season 3 was any good, I'd have resubbed to netflix. I've only spent hundreds of hours on the games. To suddenly say the show isn't for me should be sending massive alarm bells.
There's an expression in writing: "You can't write a character smarter than yourself". I have a feeling this applies so well to this show. Which is sort of hilarious, considering the writers didn't even have to come up with anything new to write since they had a series of books to draw from. It's like trying to take an open-book test but instead of using the assigned textbook you try to used your diary to get the answers.
Ok, so:
1) Ciri is the lead character in 5 of the 9 books
2) Yenefer, while admittedly serving the hero's reward trope in the short stories, has one of the most tragic, heroic and relatable stories in the saga, not to mention probably the deepest side character origin story ever written
3) Women in the books are ruling the entire bloody world, pulling the strings, conducting eugenics experiments in the background and actively steering entire nations..
All you had to do was
FOLLOW
THE F'ING
BOOKS
Naw, she isn't.
Reward? She is a hoe.
Not women, sorcerers.
I know right, that's why we wanted to watch it in the first place. 😂
Sounds like horrible books that only soy boys would read.
The books are amazingly feminist, wonderful in so many ways and feminism is just one among them.
@@deelirious But written by a man, so yeet that shit and get Hollywood's top... "Writers" to patch that plot. Worked out just as planned I am sure, just don't look at reviews x)
"Guys, the numbers aren't good. How do we get people to watch our show now?"
"I know! Let's call them stupid!"
"Good idea. That always works."
Aren't they? Neflix are claiming 250 million hours watched for season 3. Their numbers aren't secret. They may not be _true,_, but why aren't we discussing them?
"Are they right? Am I wrong? No! No! THEY are the ones who are wrong!"
@@rogerborg
1. Henry Cavill is confirmed out as Geralt, because of creative disputes with the showrunners
2. The showrunners have a history of disrespecting the source material
3. The overwhelming online consensus is Season 3 sucked
4. Season 4 is on the rocks thanks to the strikes
5. Netflix is obviously nervous because they pulled that "Cavill is Still the Witcher" publicity stunt.
How true do you think those numbers are?
@@rogerborg Well.. compare those numbers with season one and you will see their problem.
Game of Thrones was popular not because it's simplified but because it was complex- from its characters to its politics to its mystery. Seems like they're really grasping at straws for excuses rather than admit their lazy writing lmao
The Witcher wasn't supposed to be like Game of Thrones.
I felt real character in house of the dragon and the female leads with the way they told us the story was emersive
Still never watched that show, any good?
@@SkylarTrahan the house of the dragon is really good way to show how to progress time and character male and female leads the right way. Even if you haven't seen game of thrones I do recommend house of the dragon it is a good time with Anime level moments !!!
And then what happened when they did dumb down GoT? It became a disaster and everyone shit on it.
The good thing about these shit shows is I know not to touch anything these terrible show runners and directors/producers make in the future.
I also know the writers on the witcher season 3 and they HATE Henry Cavill because he didn't support their writing not realizing how bad their story was.
The other thing missed here the head writers for each season changed, and the person who led season 3 writing wanted to expand the female characters as well. Once I found that out, I completely understood how doomed that season was
I believe the latter - your latter - that Cavill is letting himself finally rage against his experiences with the entire production team and experiences with the staff. I honestly don't think that he is insulting the fans of the books or game or TV show. It isn't the fans - his fans - who are the problem, and he knows it. I feel overwhelming sympathy for him ever since I first read of his departure from the series. I stand by him and with him -- as a rabid JRR Tolkien fan, I stand by him. I have never been more proud of my own fandom as when we all stood up as one voice and declared Amazon's _Rings of Power_ to be the gigantic steaming pile of smoldering horseshite it truly is.
(You don't need to keep reading unless you have some time on your hands. As you can see, I have written a novel. My apologies for the length. Apparently, I feel very strongly about all this.)
Cavill is the best, the _only_ possible casting choice to play Geralt. You need someone like him to headline your show. You want someone with that self-same passion for the role and the source material. Just as you want Peter Jackson to create, produce, and direct the LOTR trilogy, you want a similarly giddy fanboy to spearhead your insanely expensive, tentpole TV series. I have no feelings about Liam Hemsworth as an actor in general, but I fear that I will be one amidst the throng of people wo will be unable to accept him in Geralt's boots. What Netflix and the producers have done, _are_ doing, to the show exemplifies the current trend to be found across all television and film. It is the same twisted ethic that has ruined Star Wars, and now Indiana Jones and the MCU. Thank you so much, Disney! It is this warped notion of representation, practically building a religion around it, hoisting inclusivity as your Crucifix and collecting the tears of the oppressed as your Holy Water. For fuck's sake, people.
It is my largest complaint concerning all content across television and in film this past 9 or 10 years: "Representation" and "Inclusivity." Someone shoot me now. I already know myself -- I don't want to see _myself_ on screen, I don't need _myself_ to be represented. That is the very pinnacle of *narcissism.* Only infants are that insecure AND self-centered; only babies need the reassurance of a mirror to determine who they are. At its best, film and television are supposed to show us _other_ ways of life, _other_ civilisations other cultures, _other_ peoples with whom we are united by our shared humanity. Anyone over the age of 5 who *needs* representation in television and movies is so pathologically insecure that I would worry about them. How can they cope with real life? Representation without meaning is pandering. It is insulting and demeaning, and we're just supposed to suck it up and swallow without any complaint?
Race-swapping as pathetic virtue signaling; changing male characters to be female in surrender to the misandrist mob; reworking an entire TV show around what amounts to self-insert fanfiction -- these things abound and *I abhor them.* I so badly wanted to love The Witcher.
You lost me at the 6th paragraph. Yet in issense I agree with you.
Well worth the read!
Not just television and film but the gaming industry as well. The trending leadership that makes its way into the gaming industry and calls gamers toxic, starts forcing change immediately with no regard to actual fan base. BF2042 was a prime example. BF 3 and 4 was huge fan favorites and the community was looking forward to the genre to get back to a modern war gameplay. They had seen first hand the success 3 and 4 had. Then someone who's probably never played video games comes along and craps on the very fans that got them a fat paycheck position to even fill. Said state of affairs these days. Get most of my entertainment from randoms on yt at this point.
Mentioning "challenging beauty standards" and "Anya Chalotra" in one sentence is just a bad joke.
Who hired this woman to be the show runner? That individual deserves some credit as well. I have no idea where this bunch of people have come from who "need to see themselves", so they take an entire franchise, and self insert themselves as the star. They need psychological help, not a TV show to run.
The Elites all drink from the same Kool Aid bowl, so it’s no surprise they got a narcissist to produce it. It’s just a big circlejerk anymore.
Exactly, a multi-million dollar production from a beloved IP with millions of fans shouldn't be your personal therapy session. That level of narcissism is insanity.
This is a good point. Netflix hired a showrunner who didn't like the IP... Then is surprised when the ruin the show.
It kind of makes me, as a Witcher fan, hope that Netflix loses a lot of money over this.
@@thatnobodyguy1535 but that lvl of narcissism is the one with the cash to make it happen right? and what better way to insert yourself to an ip that has millions of fans already to just be swept up into loving you as much as you do rather than build and work and earn the respect of others.
Those who intended the franchise to be brutally and complete be destroyed. Mission executed successfully by failing completely. Bank accounts refilled.
And now off to tear down another ip...
I’m a 17 year old American and I understood the books perfectly fine, I think it may be their problem
it's literally a skill issue for showrunners these days, especially the ones striking.
Yes and Sapkowski writing is not hard to read, he's quite direct and straight to the point. I think that his books were a good basis to make a good show. Of course when you make a show you can't have a narrator telling you a story you have to rewrite it to a more dialogue focused story not just take a background and write your own story that has nothing to do with the basic one.
In view of the bad press that young americans seem to get these days-- that is the ultimate put-down. Well done!
I would be surprised if they even read any of the books or at least played the games.
I think you're very right!
I think I understand the Yen not being "conventionally attractive" my first complaint with Yen was that she didn't have that ethereal beauty from the game. They hear that she's "not pretty enough" to play Yen and completely misunderstand the problem
They cast a beautiful actress in the only position that people could focus on her flaws. I have no issues with the actress, she's gorgeous and having only watched S1 I think she portrayed her alright but Yen should be so beautiful she falls into the uncanny valley like a Vampire or a Fairy and she just isn't quite there. Any other beautiful character she would be just fine but in the same way that Henry Cavill is just a bit too pretty to be Geralt she's just not that uncanny beauty and it's just insulting to tell this beautiful woman that she's "challenging beauty standards" because you failed to find someone who fits that mould
He's 100% talking about the crew! And it was absolutely brillant that you caught it halfway. He was abused on the show, so he hit back in this interview. World class! 😂
I mean...when you hire a lady who's mentality is essentially "Ew, this book is too much for guys! Imma make it for ME because I'M special!" this is what you're going to get.
not saying they can't hire women, but men are better at keeping things separate (one track minds is how they stigmatize it). there are women who will be just as great. It's just that when they hire women for a checkbox we get this, instead of hiring based on talent
There is a reason men are commonly better because they don't have that feminism and own agenda to make their work into a message that no one gives a damn about
@@willdegra317 Oh shush. It's nothing to do with the show runner being a woman and everything to do with her being shite.
@@willdegra317Has nothing to do with the gender. Lack of talent comes in many forms, even men. In this case it was simply a woman.
Plenty men that have made and directed bad movies and stories.
"The idol" is a perfect recent example.
@@willdegra317 Bull. It's just that they are hiring the dregs because they are cheap and look good on a the 'diversity' Quota Sheet.
Want to see a some great female Writing, Temerarie Series from Naomi Novik.
Main characters: 2 Males leads.
They have two female superior officers that never degrade them for Female power. Well written characters.
I really hope I don't see a live action series of those books in these times. Especially after this butchering.
As an Eastern European woman, the reason why I fell in love with The Witcher book series was because I could relate to the female characters. Unlike in many western fantasy books, where badass female characters are often portrayed as "not like other girls" (like Arya from GOT) and traditionally feminine characters are portrayed as evil or stupid (like Cercei and Sansa), in the Witcher book series a girl can be girly and badass at the same time (like that scene in Blood of Elves when Ciri wears a dress to remind Geralt and Vesemir that she's a girl and sometimes she has struggles they can't understand).
Plus, in many other fantasy books 80% of a female character's plot revolves around fighting against the "evil patriarchy" and complaining about it, while in the Witcher's universe women can become strong and powerful, with lots of political influence, while having actually interesting and engaging plots. The book is filled with lots of positive messages for young girls coming from scenes where Triss and Yennefer are teaching Ciri how to navigate the world as a woman, which shouldn't come as a surprise, since Sapkowski himself said in several interviews that he supports the feminist movement. Not to mention that some of his female characters are references to real historical figures (for example Renfi resembles Emilia Plater).
So, I'm always confused when the show's creators are saying they want to make the show more feminist and more relatable to women, while the books are already relatable to us, and the scenes that made Ciri or Yennefer relatable characters were practically cut from the show. While Triss and Yennefer in the books tell Ciri stuff like women should only accentuate their beauty for their own confidence, and not the opinions of others, Yennefer in the show tells a dead baby that women are just vessels for the world to use, like wtf....
Sorry for the long rant, but this has been annoying me since Season 1 was released.
Oh there's no need to apologise for this rant because deserve to voice your opinion on how Netflix is perverting the Witcher.
Anglo-saxons doing Anglo-saxon things.
Well said!
I don't you need to be sorry for this text. I actually enjoyed reading it. And it shows how little writers know about the actual female audience, what many want to see, or are drawn to in the first place.
In general I think the witcher has awesome characters in it for everyone, most of them are interesting, complex but relateable in some way.
@@peterc.1419what do the English have to do with this?
I just rewatched the first episode of the first season, and it's amazing how good it was. And how bad the last episode of the third season was. It's hard to believe they're the same show.
I agree they left off the plot is a strange place in season three, but it’s actually in the books at least. Season two… just wtf?
Saw black slavs on episode 1. Checked out of the entire thing. Didn't bother after seeing blackface Triss
I had the same sentiment. I hated he was leaving until I watched the first episode of season three and I realized this is likely career-ending. I'm so glad he got out of now!
Henry is too established to have his career ended because of one bad show, but I appreciate him standing his ground.
@@Covey7342 I agree with you but the others may not be or aren't established enough.
I feel sad for Cavill. He's a great actor and a great guy. It's so sad that everything is political and no one cares about story. Story and lore is so important. It's what we cling to when times are tough. Henry Cavill understand this. He did a great job as geralt, a great job as Superman. He's a great fan. To bad Hollywood are idiots
It's only because of Cavill that I have faith in the Warhammer 40k adaptation
Cavil is an actor from a different time. He just does media that he loves and wants it to be the best and most faithful as possible.
It's night and day compared to the writers such as these
I don't understand how they're willing to let Cavill go because he doesn't like the direction of the show, when the direction of the show is what's losing it's audience. Who in their right mind wouldn't clean house behind the scenes and try to keep your big star.
@@qui-gonrick7002 The creators must have too fragile egos to take criticism, or too headstrong. I don't get it either. This is what happens when you insert politics in a medium and it starts to get personal for you. They needed to take a step back and look at things objectively. Quite frankly it might be for the best that this show will die off...some of the comments that were leaked shows that the staff seemed to actively hold disdain for the original witcher content and its fans - now their hate is just more public. Better that they leave the scene so someone more passionate and a true fan of the witcher can take up the role of directing a new series, and fix their mistakes. Like if they wanted to pull this crap and hate the witcher story they should have made their own original series. I don't know why they let people like this direct franchises that they actively hate. Makes no sense, and it is destined to fail.
@@limlaithHenry Cavill is The Witcher Netflix show, 100%
*The game sold 50,000,000 copies.*
*Imagine if they catered to that audience alone.*
Silence! You must be a dumb American to come up with such foolproof plan like that! 🙃
Not possible
"We want to bring The Witcher to NEW audiences!"
🚩🚩🚩
In the books Yennifer started out as a total cunt. There's not even a more appropriate word for her, but that's half the point. She actually grows a great deal over the course of the story, even with her but being a constant character.
The infrequent showings are also what lends contrast to the changes and the lessons she brings each time she shows up. It makes her character rather profound in a way that is very unique and it's sad just how much they threw away without a care or any comprehension.
I am Polish and have read the first Witcher stories when Sapkowski published them in the polish equivalent of Might & Magic magazine. They were not too complicated for me then, and I was like 13 at the time xD
"Show infinitely dumber than Game of Thrones forgets how massive that audience was"
So many people getting burned with shit shows very few of them are going to come back. HotD maybe, but most will be like "I'm done"
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It really baffles me how the audience can be underestimated to such a degree with that in mind. There's tons of complex shows that had huge success, with GoT being the elephant in the room for sure which even got criticized once it dumbed down.
@@Some_Guy_87 OMG, Seasons 7 and 8! WHYYYYYY?!
@@AuntLoopy123 I'm so glad I dropped out after season 4. Remeber watching some clips of Battle of Bastards online like 2 years later thinking "Wow, this so stupid". Oh, what a sweet summer child I was...
2:20 I am surprised - I’ve encountered quite a few characters in books, TV, and movies, who are entitled, bigoted, ignorant, narcissistic, completely devoid of talent, and lacking in any redeeming qualities! She must not be familiar with literature or the cinema, to have never felt represented…
nice!
Yes, it is an attack on all media. They have to change all fiction and nonfiction to fit the narrative for the generation coming up right now.
She's going to need some magical aloe for that burn
7:30 same as Wanda enslaving a town and then freeing them is supposedly her 'sacrifice' whereas the man who tried to stop Wanda from ENSLAVING A TOWN was depicted as the evildoer. There was a lot of potential in actually exploring the plot they gave us, showing the devastating effects of PTSD, such as Wanda not even really being aware/in control of what she was doing and making the responsible decision to turn herself in, but they went a different route.
Telling us they cast Anya to challenge beauty standards is laughable. She is immensely beautiful even to traditional “euro-centric” standards- big eyes, thin straight nose, full heart shaped lips. She’s got long flowing curls and a rocking body.
That's perfectly fine with me. I can claim I'm in full support of diversity and their challenge to traditional beauty standards, instead of just my usual toxically masculine female-objectifying self, while I drool all over the place 😁
Sorry but no. An "immensely beautiful" woman would be a solid 10. She isn't close to that. There are hotter chicks that walk in and out of every gym in the country on the daily. She's not challenging beauty standards, that's true, but she is not some gorgeous goddess either. The Yennefer you see in the video games, now THAT is immensely beautiful.
@@shrinkshooterbeauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just cos she doesn’t fit your standards doesn’t mean you have to hate on Anya. Plenty of people find her immensely beautiful. No need to insult her just cos she doesn’t fit what you think is beautiful.
@@xxdreeamchaanxx8545 1. Beauty is only in the eye of the beholder to a certain extent, otherwise "beauty standards" wouldn't exist. There's a reason certain women get tons of attention and others get none. 2. I did not insult or hate on Anya. I simply said the assessment of her is incorrect. 3. Don't use weasel words with me. Talk is cheap. "Plenty of people find Anya hideously ugly" is just as substantive a claim as the one you made just now. 4. Don't be a hypocrite. It cuts both ways. If I'm not allowed to "hate" on Anya for not seeing her as immensely beautiful, you don't get to praise her just because you think she is.
Bottom line, "immensely" is a gross exaggeration, but disagree with it all you want.
@@shrinkshooter I was never happy with Anya as Yen. Yen, however, isn't a goddess of beauty in the books, she was made one in the games.
It wasn’t the intelligence of the audience that was lacking, it was the intelligence of the writers and showrunner
Honestly the same can be said for the writers and show runners of Rings of Power
@@thedragonking8854 At least Amazon had the excuse of "Oops we spent 250mil on the wrong IP license, oh well, we'll have to base all of the content of our Simarillion story on the last few pages of the last book of LoTR". Netflix actually had the rights to the books and Henry Cavil as lead and still managed to botch it.
@@colbunkmust I’m unconvinced that is a good excuse on amazons part. Seems to show more absolute shoddy planning on their part in trying to cover material they didn’t have the rights to to BS material to stretch for 5 seasons. They had options to showcase other areas of Middle Earth. For some reason they went with *the* worst choice as far as available lore vs content filler
@@thedragonking8854 It's not a good excuse at all, but it's a slightly better excuse that wouldn't be the fault of the actual showrunner as the licensing rights would be attained by the studio beforehand. Both are terrible shows, both are terrible adaptions but RoP was doomed before the production even started while The Witcher's faults lie solely on the shoulders of the Hissirch.
@@colbunkmust solid point. I’d agree with ya for sure in that case.
They def botched the Witcher after how well the first season went. Side note: what’s Hissirch? Was that a misspelling or a reference to the Witcher? My familiarity with LotR by far outpaces what I know about the Witcher
Boy did they ruin it for other female directors 🤡
She-Hulk ruined the idea of an all female writers' room. At least we're speedrunning these issues.
@@hope-cat4894We just need one more push. WW84 helped as well.
that's what happens when you're hired as a checkbox. They don't look for talent, your skin color, genitals or genital preference will do
Sadly true, but ruining it has nothing to do with them being female. Remember the rings of power with its male duo or new StarTrek. It is not about the writers gender but about their lack of skills and respect. That is as independent from gender as haircolor or skincolor.
@@hope-cat4894@luisg2665 If this is really how it worked then male directors and writers would be out of jobs already but they aren't.
The way you broke down the narrative of what happened with that show (through info straight from the horse’s mouth) was brilliant. It’s so clear now why the debacle occurred and why it was inevitable from the moment Lauren Smith Hissrich got her grubby hands on our beloved Witcher
They fumbled the bag. The books' story progresses to focus more on Ciri naturally further down the line and It's good. Fans would have liked that. Maybe they didn't read up... . Sapkowski gets actually pretty woke at times.
But the innitial focus on Geralt was crucial for that progression, which netflix just couldnt stomach.
Imagine watching fantasy series and going "I can't see myself in this". Imagine only being able to enjoy fantasy shows if there was a physical representation of yourself in it. Then imagine employing said person as a showrunner for a popular fantasy series. When all you had to do was take a great actor who is passionate about the role, have him fight monsters, and tell stories along the way. Easy money.
that's the only reason we enjoyed TMNT, we were all turtles as kids back then
@@willdegra317 I wish I could say the same, I've heard good things but then I heard the stars were green reptiles and I'm not a green reptile you see, I just couldn't see myself in those characters to enjoy it. If only there was an ability to enjoy things that aren't reality, I can only dream.
@@chrismcintyre5445 How long before you are called racist against green people, do you think?
This reminds me the time when SC came out and allot of people where like " I want to find my own mister J" like suure who wouldn't want a maniac as a boyfriend. Then when birds of pray came out Harley was a good ole model for moder woman ??? Like what
There is no fantasy without imagination… Lauren still doesn’t get this
It's so dumb how they obviously never read their own show's source material. Don't they know that Ciri DOES become the protagonist and main focus on the later books? They still could've gotten their "girl boss" show and the fans would've loved it too, had they just stuck to the books.
That would mean, waiting a few seasons...they need the "girl boss" now.
Obvious they did not know a thing about the source material. Seems to be the way of Entertainment these days. They produce their own crap and cannot understand why it is not liked!!
Good luck next season when we meet drug addict lesbian serial killer Ciri.
@@garetht677 Exactly. Ciri's actress was good and I would have stuck around for 9 seasons. They just didn't have to change the timeline of events or make the cast play their characters differently.
Because they don't want to acknowledge she comes into her own through training and guidance from Geralt.
I have asked this before but seriously where are they finding these people.
Directors, writers, showrunners, actors all obsessed with portraying themselves onto the screen rather than the characters.
When did narcissism become a job requirement.
Excellent commentary .. good on you. 👊
They constantly whine about *diversity* but they refuse to face, listen to, learn from a character that's 'diverse' from them.
Tales are supposed to transport you in a different world to know different 'people', values, places, traditions (even when they're made up) it's an enrichment.
Instead, they just want to 'spread themselves' like a disease.....and exactly like a disease they cause consequences.
The only diversity they do not want is diversity of opinion/thought. What they are proudly peacocking is actual discrimination and at times actual racism. Their inclusivity is paper thin, only skin deep, that very top layer of epidermis that you can see through. I go into this in more detail in a stand-alone comment above, but you get the idea. "Spreading themselves" like a contagion is quite possibly the best way to describe this trend. Using someone else's IP to forward your personal agenda as opposed to telling a good story, the story the author intended. If there were a theology of film adaptation, I would say that this is the Unforgivable Sin.
I always find it hilarious how they whine and complain about 'white fantasy worlds' when they are always choosing to adapt the fantasy worlds based on European-like settings, so obviously fileld with a lot of white people :) it's like they know what they are choosing to make and still complain about lack of diversity...so then they force it artificially diverisfying what wasn't so in the source material hahah...it's seriously like definition of insanity :). Hell if they so want diverse fantasy, maybe they should start ADAPTING OTHER WORLDS THAT ARE ORE TO THEIR LIKING INSTEAD CHANGING EXISTING ones...bloody hell...the same they did with Tolkien...which is obviously based on European culture and Witcher is the same in this regard, they always try to insert forced diversity no matter how out of place, how it ruins the worldbuilding or doesn't suit the setting at all. White people are the majority of the characters because ethnically these fantasy worlds are based on European sphere...medieval castles and knights, models of European cultures etc. I mean if they want they could go and work on some African or Asian based fantasy worlds haha....but they should STOP inserting their agenda into existing franchises that don't fit their notions! Hell I bet that when netflix will make the live action Avatar Last Airbender there will be no sign of diversity :) meaning white peoples because they will be then ACCURATE to all Asian cast haha! :)
You want diversity? Then show different cultures! For example: Slavic. And you know what culture is Witcher from Slavic! And also, the author was pretty liberal in the books, in season of storms, there was a pro-abortion argument! There were multiple strong female characters!
@@hyrulehollowtitan9657 they're like a cancer. they take the ideals and messages of a work and make them overgrow and metastasize all throughout a story until it can no longer sustain itself and dies.
The diversity argument has always been the lefts achilles heal as the only diversity allowed is identity. Thought diversity will not be tolerated. Gets them everytime
What's funny is the petition to keep Henrey Cavil and fire the writers... Henrey left and the terrible writers went on a strike that nobody cares about 😂 Double Wammy for the show.
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Such a good point!!
Perfect excuse (and timing) for NetFlix to cancel the show... and if they have half-a-brain between them, never, ever, hire Lauren H for anything else, ever again... including janitorial work.
I care about the writers strike. Lost of people care about the writer strike. People who care about good writing care about the writers strike.
To be fair as the books move on you do get more segments about ciri but they've managed to somehow shoehorn her into other bits that had nothing to do with it and Yennefer has plenty to do in the books and is mostly acting independently of Geralt and has her own storyline which there was room to expand slightly however again they massacred that, they simplified loads of the interesting political intrigue the story has.
The sad thing is that in the later books (Baptism of Fire i believe) Ciri basically becomes the main character, so if they had waited 2-3 more seasons they'd have the female lead they wanted.
Imagine reading an autobiography of Albert Einstein and you also have to read the autobiography of his mom. And since her story wouldn't be as interesting or important as Einstein's, they give credit for his formulas to her.
Alright, I understand your perspective. However, you might want to look into information about his wife - I'm not kidding! 😇😄 But as I mentioned earlier, I do understand your point. 😉😂
Calling the audience "stupid" is now quite a trend. I guess we kinda are... for keep watching this stuff only for fandom or morbid fascination. Can't recall who said this strike is not a strike, but a purge.... I hope it really is.
Destroying expectations one at a time …
Agreed, same reason why zombies like star wars and marvel is still around. It's about time we double tap them.
imagine a dictator telling his people that are idiot sheep that should just do the hard-work in the mines and shut up.... yeah that's the kind of dictator that ends up dead rather fast. You NEED public approval even if through extreme underhanded methods to stay in power.
Didn’t watch season 2 of the Witcher. I may be a dumb fan of fantasy and science fiction, but I‘m learning fast what to avoid … and I‘m not the type to come back once driven away. Maybe being dumb is the most intelligent thing to be currently.
"I didn't see myself in any fantasy stories, so I made sure I did in the Witcher."
You want to see YOURSELF in the story? THEN CREATE YOUR BLOODY OWN STORY INSTEAD OF LITERALLY DESTROYING SOMEONE ELSES!
For years people have sat idle and accepted the woke garbage by the woke hires the movie studios were doing. I think after Bud Light, people are realizing they have a voice with their actions. These crap showrunners can lie and blame the fans all they want, but who are they talking to? Not us.
With each passing day, Netflix gives the audience a clear view of the struggles Henry went through fighting these idiots to get them to respect the source material.
And yet, if they'd kept to the books, both Ciri and Yennefer would've been important at the right time. Imagine saying that your audience is dumb when they've read all the books, played the games, and know the source material better than the show "writers" 😂😂😂
They can copy, duplicate the entire original even, and still make a more vapid version because their "self" is just that.
It sounds like the writers considered the source material to be suggestions and not instructions they should be following. And even then many fans have never asked for a 1 to 1 remake. Just the main points are kept intact.
If the show was originally going to get 9 seasons, there's plenty of time for Ciri to be in the spotlight. They just needed to be patient. Or they can expand the scenes Ciri is in(within reason of course). Outright creating scenes for Ciri that never happened or could logically happen is questionable.
and they could have done spin-off shows with a season or two of 'The Witcher: Ciri's Story' or some such and people'd LOVE it, because you've given them WHAT they wanted and by then they wouldn't mind some backstory to certain not-geralt characters as well.
@@kinagrill Exactly. Spin-off shows are perfectly fine and valid for expanding on characters. What they've done is treated their malformed shows as "canon" for all of us to accept.
@@Frenzyshark Hell it's how a basic D&D Gamemaster would allow an easy character-story. Put focus on one character at least a few sessions into the campaign so everyone are invested, have settled with their characters, etc. Then you can do the 'and Korak the Ork Bardbarian went in search of his Ork Tribe Heritage' for a session or two and everyone else are fine with making a mini-side-character or just go along as the whole group.
I can't count how many times I say "what" in your video. The interview in those article is so BIZZARE
I have only watched season 1 but because it was flowing towards a Yennifer show. A simple fix for expectations would retitle it to "Yennifer: - A Witcher Story".
Introducing Ciri in the last 10 minutes would've been huge. Fans would've been eagerly awaiting it. Wasn't the last 10 minutes of GoT season 1 where the dragons got introduced? They ended up playing a pretty big part in the show right? It's called a season finale and it hypes you up for the next season. How do these people have jobs?
Exactly. It's just season 1. Testing the waters. Maybe we'll never get 25-30 episode seasons but multiple seasons can be guaranteed if you keep the flow going.
I would have preferred that to what we got. Honestly, I pretty much zoned out during Ciri's episodes. I felt no investment with her character and just wanted to get back to Geralt. Like being stuck in an unskipable cutscene in a video game when you just want to get back to the action.
I think if they did that, my girlfriend (who doesn't know the Witcher) could have followed it.
As the season was however, she was confused overall. To many jumps in terms of places and time for her to follow, and she had no clue what a witcher is, is able to do after season 1. That is kind of a red flag for a show if viewers who aren't familiar with it don't even understand what the main characters abilities are.
They wanted to show more Ciri and yet they deprived her of one of her best moments in the books, that being killing Rience
Imagine how these showrunners will portray the whole arc of Ciri being kidnapped to Stygga castle by Vilgefortz and Geralt and his hansa goes to rescue her. I don't think they will portray Ciri as damsel in distress...
Thank god there are rumour about this show's about to be cancelled, hope that becomes a reality
@@karthiksubramanian2279 They already ruined my favorite boi Cahir and are currently ruining Milva, I hope the show doesn’t last long enough so get to ruin Regis or Angouleme
@@justlivin2499 no definitely not Regis, he is one of most favourite characters, straight up there with Geralt himself. This abomination should be cancelled before they ruin my favorite vampire...
Like do people not understand how stories work? I remember back in the day a TV show called Hercules: The Legendary Journeys with Kevin Sorbo. The show was amazing, because it focused on Hercules... like the name says. It ran for 6 seasons, which is more than anything these days lasts. He had some iconic characters in the show that were not him, and while it was perfectly fine to focus an entire episode on the side characters, it would have been unacceptable to just show them all the time.
One interesting part of this though... there was a period where they introduced Lucy Lawless as Xena the Warrior Princess. This was a girl boss, a total badass in her own right. Those very few episodes she was in were enough to get fans demanding more. So instead of just showing more of her in Hercules (though she had cameos), they gave the character her own show, Xena: Warrior Princess. It was well done, the characters were relatable and likable, and it lasted 6 seasons just like the show she split off from. Equal to the original series of Hercules. Actually, Xena had more episodes than Hercules.
They need to understand when a concept belongs in the main story, or when it belongs in its own series. If people really want to see more of Yennefer, make a damn new show called Yennefer: The Witcher's Harlot, or whatever the hell they want. But leave The Witcher as the Witcher. And don't eject the actor that poured his heart and soul into BECOMING the character for the audience. Because there is no Witcher without Henry Cavill. Only cheap imitations.
Damn that flute scared the shit out of me. I was listening, while scrolling on steam and that popped up and made me practically jump out of my seat!!! lol
Don't they understand that the reader doesn't want to see themselves in a fantasy book/series? That's why it's called FANTASY
BINGO.
Gotta push that agenda and ideology though.
Producers: *skims over the witcher books* "This shit is stupid." *proceeds to make up their own crappy story that doesn't follow the books*
Viewers: "This shit is stupid."
Producers: *surprised Pikachu face*
**surprised Pikachu face**
The structure of two unexplained timelines running parallel in the first season was needlessly complex but kind of a cool reveal when you figured it out. They thought we were smart enough to figure that out but not basic terrible storylines? Ok.
Yhh...season 1 was a bit confusing, but once it clicked it was really fun figuring it out & rewatching it.
1:35 I mean Beau Demayo literally said after leaving the show that some writers actively disliked the source material and it really would not surprise me given the level of incompetence, as you stated, would have to be so great as to be intentional sabotage for this show to fail like it has
If a bunch of people think your work sucks then something is up. In the restaurant business if a food item sucks or isn't selling well then the option is to improve on it or cut it off. It's baffling to me how many of these multimillion dollar projects blame fans for being stupid, racists or misogynists rather than just saying "Okay...maybe we could've improved on something." Just a little humility can go a long way.
There are also some good works that was not appreciated at the beginning. One example is "Iron Giant", who while failed in theatre, but become cult following later. I found that most of these kind of creators don't attack or blame the audience for failures, instead they will adjust their concept to draw more audiences.
These Witcher creators are just losers. They will always be remembered as failures, delusional failures.
Narcissists... and too many of them STILL getting participation trophies that they don't realize ARE participation trophies.
Therefore... it CAN'T be their own fault... something... or someONE... else, must be at fault.
After all, they're "perfect just the way they are"... no need to improve...
Yet we had Kitchen Nightmare with people just utterly incapable of accepting that it was the FOOD that sucked.
Like my grandma used to say " Even the dog doesn't want to eat your slop . Let me do the cooking you incompetent grandson "
This kind of messing up is the direct result of a lack of humility. "I'm going to use this IP to tell MY story MY way so I can see MYSELF in this story." It's no wonder they can't admit failure.
It's impressive!
They had a lot of beloved books, hugely popular games, built in fans that love the IP and an actor that is a walking encyclopedia of the source material. Yet somehow messing it up!
Well since nobody listened to him or the writers that actually wanted to represent the books, it's not that hard to understand why.
What I will say is that I feel like the casters argument of "casting can influence a show" is very spot on. It can turn out to be a huge issue and people won't watch it. Or go in it with an already negative feeling towards it. Never underestimate that "little" fact.
If the characters look how they are supposed to, you will forgive the first few issues easier. However if you already are in a negative mindset because the characters don't look like they should, ever mistake that follows hits even harder.
Because the first thing they did was light that all on fire and piss on the ashes.
They wanted to aim for a new audience and by doing so lost the audience who loved the books and/or games. And the audience they went for didn’t care for it either.
Pretty spot on with your analysis of the situation. Honestly it's gutting to see something that had the perfect main role casting, someone that also loved the Witcher, be disrespected and marginalised in a show about him. You can get representation into a show without making that the entire basis of the show. However I feel that too many shows are hyper focused on representation at the sacrifice of good storytelling. As you've said and I reiterate, this is a story about THE WITCHER without THE WITCHER, it's farcical. Can't people who want to create a show about representation and inclusivity create their own original stories and leave beloved IP's alone, allowing for someone who actually likes these IP's to recreate them on screen. So disappointing and I truly feel for Henry, he loves the Witcher and got forced to take a front row seat watching the writers and show runners butcher it and twist it to suit their alternative motives.
The whole "I don't see myself in the story, so I can't enjoy it!" has always annoyed me, if the story/writing is good enough then you should be able to empathise with the characters irrespective of how they might appear. I remember reading a sci-fi short story by Stephen Baxter about the heroic journey of a sapient snowflake tumbleweed trying to save its planet (from humans as it would turn out) & I was invested enough that I can still remember it 20 odd years later.
And because of that mentality they sacrificed good stories for forced representation. I’m in total agreement. The character doesn’t have to look just like you, in order for you to see something in a character. But that goes against Hollywoods ideology. 🤷🏻♀️
Sounds interesting do have a title?
I always view stories from an outside-looking-in perspective, so I never felt the need to have someone to "relate" to in a story to enjoy it. If I can relate to a character, it's due to any trait that makes the character human, and not things like race, sex or the other stuff in the intersectionality, and most of the times, that connection just happens.
I personally think people are always lying when they say it, anyway, heh. Filmmakers say it just to justify their stupid choices, and social media people say it to either defend said stupid choices or as a lame attempt at sympathy points.
@@stevenscott2718 I can't remember the title of the story I'm afraid, I've asked (when I posted because I want to know too) over on r/whatsthatbook to see if anyone on there knows it, no luck yet.
When women say (I want to see myself in the franchise) It makes me laugh, because I'm watching the show for a 6'1" Inch Mutant Albino with model good looks, animal like fast reflexes, can conjure magic, has yellow eyes and the build of an Olympian. He is pretty much the exact opposite to what I am and I'm satisfied with that. I don't want to see myself in fantasy, it's why I watch fantasy as a form of escapism and I don't want to see these liberal self inserts either.
Exactly, myth legends stories in general have been invented not for people to see themselves but to escape from their own lives or to use them as a means to explain happenings around them , but not to see themselves, because in the early days they had no idea about them and what they are
Most common trope - Storm and lightning would bring harm to the crops so early people thought there must be some God aka powerful figure who controls storms so he'd drop them onto the land with crops when angry - later scientists came up with a scientific explanation and etc
The wildest part is that Henry wasn't the only actor there who was a fan of the books and games, I'm pretty sure a few big names they have on the show don't agree with any of this shit.
Classic vid mate
Cheers 🍺
There is a fine line between confidence to arrogance. She is sitting on narcissism.
That’s beyond arrogance, right?
I agree the show should be just THE WITCHER doing WITCHER stuff. Its not hard.
How about making the supporting characters...you know, SUPPORT and COMPLEMENT the MC...without shoving them to center stage?
The problem with that is that the Witcher is not female. Can't give egotistical girl boss scenes to a guy. I wonder why they didn't gender swap him.
And since they want to represent themselves in these series, I can't help but wonder if they masturbate when watching their own show. Because they sure as hell masturbate at their own writing.
@@daynechastant Yes! Exactly.
@@daynechastantwould rather them be rare to see it’s about the Witcher
If they wanted to they actually could've made the show mainly about Geralt and Ciri. After all she's the McGuffin around which almost everything in the novels revolves. But they are so incapable and fanatical about their own hubris and pathetic ideology, that they ruined that possibility of expanding what Sapkowski couldn't.
Ciri had so many great scenes with huge potential to FAITHFULLY adapt and at the same time expand, it's a shame....
I am from central Europe and i used to work for Disney (mobile games) and i think i know what the Polish guy is saying and what situation he is probably in. If i'm correct, i wish him a fat payout and a speedy recovery.
Love this!!!! Everything that we all wanted to say. Great Job!!! It should have NEVER been messed with.
I can only imagine the hiring process for show-runners goes along the lines of
"Do you, or have you ever lived in California?"
"Absolutely!"
"Also, just to clarify because I would hate to assume. Would you describe yourself as a narcissist?"
"I believe the whole world should be a mirror to my truth, which is perfection,"
"Your hired!"
The shallowness and ignorance of these people, who consider themselves culturally important elites, is shocking. The one thing of value in the arts is that human beings get to see themselves at their deepest spiritual and psychological levels. Believing that emphasizing your serendipitous color, gender, etc., alone, is virtuous and that the singular obsessive pursuit of their representation is the height of noble aspiration, is a debased and decadent idea. It is an intellectually and artistically bankrupt idea as well as cheap and degrading in its lack of depth. These people don't have even the most basic education. It explains in part the baseness and shallowness of our culture at the moment.
Very, very well said sir!!
Great video. Excellent example of what is wrong with movies today.
I actually liked season 1 quite a bit. That fight scene at the end of episode 1 is the best of all time. Funny that Henry was responsible for all of that. I like that they included Yen and Ciri in season 1, but if you don't have anything for the character to do, then why? Ciri could have had half the screen time in season 1. Don't even get me started on season 2 & 3. The fact that they don't think the world or events have to make sense blows my mind. Have to say, as an American woman, I don't need to be able to see myself in the story about a 70-year-old monster fighting mutant.
It’s about image rather than substance, in this case the substance was the plot.
It's funny Hissrich doesn't think s1 paid enough attention to Ciri's story- because the reason they had all those time jumps was so that Ciri could appear in it from the start. Maybe Hissrich is so entitled herself that she thinks altering the whole structure of a show for one person is just not going far enough. Also, I can assure her that myself and many (if not most) other women who love fantasy don't require multiple girlbosses at the expense of the canon hero so they can "see" themselves. I mean, Witcher female fans tend to like Geralt and Jaskier the most. And I'd like to ask her why she didn't just adapt a book or game that has a female lead- they do exist.
Netflix could have had one of the best shows in history if they just followed the great books. The book's story is one of the best I have read them a few times and I hardly ever read a story more than once but I did with the Witcher.
As a white American I love always being blamed and insulted. Then told that we have to respect people’s nationality and race. But they don’t have to respect us. Makes sense.
I’ll never understand why producers can’t or never want to follow the books or game of the title they purchased to make a TV series out of it.
The material is already written and all they have to do is follow it. But nooooo “I got the rights, so I’ll make it into MY vision.” 🤦🏻♂️
They gotta be braindead to rewrite the story that fans already read, played & loved the series (game/book).
It's not really all that hard to understand. They fancy themselves to be artists, and seek to create their own art. They have no problem with the tactic of hijacking the audience of a series of books, then producing a visual version which is exclusively their own creation, one which pays little attention to the story, the nature of its characters, or the deeper messages presented in the books. Then they petulantly deride those who watch the show, or who watched it and abandoned it, for not loving the visual version. The thought that telling a new story,, perverting the main characters, and replacing the original messages with ones the director and showrunner think are important (when 95% of the audience think the new messages are anti-human) is their natural right. Being faithful to the author and content of a series of books is an idea that never enters their minds. The natural urge is always to produce something new and different.
One major problem we have as a society that manifests in Hollywood is widespread narcissism. So many people are so narcissistic, including people making movies...so they create these characters in their own image and the result is these selfish, narcissistic characters being framed as heroes - despite not having any heroic qualities.
Bingo
I would have tried the second part but Netflix decided you can't share without paying extra now.
As much as I enjoyed the quality of the production and acting in the first season. I still can't shake the feeling that mixing up the timeline for no particular reason was a bit confusing. With no text referring to the movement of time. I legit got confused about whether in a scene that shapeshifter was still dead or not. Life is hard.
Showrunners: "We needed to simplify it for Western audiences."
Translation: "We're simpletons, and narcissists, so we can't comprehend anyone else being smarter than we are." 🤷♂️
Edit: Audiences can not only keep up, they've left these people in their dust. 😂
Also, why do so many female casting directors intentionally cast women who are uglier or less personable than themselves? 🤔
Because they hate the idea of guys jacking off but granted why the fuck are they concerned about other guys jacking it constantly.
I'm a woman and just realized how weird that is to worry about some dudes you don't even know POTENTIALLY being turned on by fictional characters. Just make the god damn show and stop making it a 'discussion' on topics it has nothing to do with, "writers".
We need to bring back Polish jokes just for that dig..
Jealousy is why. They want to be the pretty girl no competition allowed
@brianmurphy6480
"simplify it for western audiences"
Meanwhile, western audiences: avidly devouring eastern entertainment, including but not limited to Japanese Manga and anime, and k-drama.
I assume that is a rhetorical question, Brian.
You're not wrong about Baginski being overruled. Before Netflix became involved, he was actually supposed to be the director of a Witcher film. Upon Netflix's involvement, Kelly Luegenbiehl approached Lauren Hissrich about producing a Witcher tv series. At this point, she had only read The Last Wish. And she admitted on a podcast:
_"I’m not a fantasy writer, I don’t think I’m the right person to honour this. I don’t know if I can give the fans what they want. And Netflix - I love them for this - they sort of pushed back and said, _*_‘Don’t worry about the fans._*_ Remember, tell us the story that _*_you_*_ would tell."_
I do wonder why Netflix entrusted such a major IP to someone inexperienced like Lauren Hissrich.
Netflix said, "Don't worry about the people paying us." Idiots.
Do wonder why people called Hissrich and Luegenbiehl would end up in charge of a project. Seems to be a lot of unskilled Germans running it all, right?
@@jonmarx7882 To point and say " See! Diversity. " Virtue Signalling.
It's just Anglo-Saxons doing Anglo-Saxon things. It can't be Polish because that's inferior in the simple Anglo-Saxon worldview. I personally don't care since Commie era pagan Polish tales are not meaningful for me, but people liked the books and games for some reason. For me better works would based on the Deluge and Pan Wolodyjowski.
I absolutely enjoy your videos.
Well I watched the 3rd season, there was one monster and ciri had to talk geralt into even trying to kill it. In the end ciri killed it, she's not the witcher! And their bewildered the series failed?
To be fair, Ciri is a main character in the story, it just takes time for her role to develop. If the writers just had a little patience they would be able to give her plenty of screen time in later seasons. Yennefer is not a main character, and trying to make her one turned out to be one of the most damaging thing to the adaptation, as nearly everything for her plot line had to be made up, derailing the story from the source material and leaving season 2 in an unrecoverable state.
The reason given, that audiences wouldn't think she was an important character just because she would be introduced at the end of the season, makes no sense. Many shows have important characters that were introduced in later seasons. I wish they'd just be honest and say that they didn't like the source material and thought they could do a better job of it.
I agree: Ciri is the only one with an "arc". Geralt and Yennifer are fun, but they're fixed polls around which Ciri's story is woven.
According to Sapkowski in regards to weather Geralt or Ciri was the main character he said the Witcher series wouldn't exist without Geralt and there would be no story without Ciri. A lot of people complaining about Ciri probably only played the games. Though I will admit she was introduced to early and clumsily. They tried to do a Pulp Fiction out of order story telling without knowing why it worked in Pulp Fiction. Ciri should have been teased and Geralt and the world fleshed out.
If they had built the series up they could have had a Yennefer spin off. The actress is gorgeous, the character intriguing and has a lot of potential. So do your Witcher series to get people to buy into the world then do a Yennefer show. I suspect if they had done that they would have had two successful shows instead of one failed show.
I think that all readers know well that the saga is actually Ciri's journey and she's the reason for all things to happen. It's literally the path from her childhood's nightmares to her leaving the world for new life as an experienced young person. As for Yennefer she was goddamn great as a deity who came every now and then to give us a lesson of being human and not as a full-time barely grown up victim.
My mum and I loved the first season and watched it together a couple of times, the second one not so much, and I couldn't finish the final one
About finding yourself in a story... Well, stories for me are about who I wanna or not wanna be and not about who I am. If I want to see myself I have a mirror for that.
Ironically the same reason that Hermione has all of Rons best lines and character traits in the movies. The director wanted to elevate her character and did it at the expense of Ron, because she was his daughters fav character.
They also left out all character flaws that made her into a fully fleshed, interesting, deep character in the first place.
@@catonkybord7950 100%
The sword scene in Blaviken was genuinely terrific, it hyped me up for the rest. Inevitably it became sentimental and self indulgent. Its like everyine writing entertainment is literally a child.
the kikimore warrior at the begining... o lord.... the fight with the strigga (not the strigga itself was awfull) making a live action of witcher 1 start CGI. shame that they cant understand what fans want. 50 mill copies, maybe 40mill fans (being bad ass pessimistic)... was so fkn easy to make a great big show for a decade at least... Lauren deserves the Cersei's walk of shame...
Was watching a video by Literature Devil about Turning Red, and he made a good point: kids movies are for kids anymore, their kids movies for adults. The Witcher is an adult show made by the same children who make children’s shows for adults. These writers and producers are perpetual children.
@@mceru If "fans" want Geralt fighting against random monsters, then they aren't real fans. The monster fights in the books are very rare, even most of the short stories are focused on characters, and monsters are killed by Geralt "off screen". The focus of the saga of Geralt is about character exploration, not action
@@moonknightish i know that tho, but wer talking about the higlights. Cuz theres none other good thing about the show. They even screwd Nivelen story... Not to mention mother Nenneke or killing Heskel, Making Eredin a soft broken loser... Only the fight coreographys were good
@@moonknightishdidn't know it was a fictional biography and not a fantasy series.
The problem is geralt was never the character he himself caused the plot to develop . It’s pretty much a story element that he gets caught up in the bigger world around him, in a video game it’s easier to use a character as a pov but still be immersed in the world he’s involved in.
Having Gerald be the center of the plot makes no sense, he’s a monster hunter that happens to get involved w ciri yen and all that but he gets sucked into their plans and their politics constantly . That is what makes the story imo.
For example I’m tw2 half the game is Gerald following kings around with little choice then later then having to prove himself innocent of killing kings and others. He’s involved in world politics without being the center of them.
So instead of following geralt for a bit then cutting to the next political scene just have geralt somehow involved in whatever is going on, even if it has nothing to do with him, that’s how the games did it . Instead of leaving him out of 60 percent of the episode
*"America is always good, the rest are bad guys. And there are no complications." is such a BASED take.*