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- John Deere vs Kubota tractor comparison. Watch to find out why John Deere is better than Kubota. John Deere beats Kubota in several areas, however Kubota wins versus John Deere in many areas as well. There will be another video soon showing the key strengths of Kubota over John Deere. Everyone has their own opinion of which tractor is better or even other brands such as LS, Kioti, New Holland, Mahindra, Massey, Branson, and more. This is not all inclusive and simply a guide to provide a starting point highlighting the strengths of buying a John Deere tractor instead of a Kubota tractor.
Hours on each machine:
2002 John Deere 4610, 760 hours
2016 John Deere 3039r, 30 hours
2004 John Deere 790 (metal hood, fenders), 460 hours
2004 Kubota b7800, 780 hours
2015 Kubota B2650HSDC, 80 hours
2012 Kubota L3700SU, 400 hours
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As long as Deere prevents owners form working on their own equipment, by claiming copyright infringement, hiding behind the DMCA act, they can put their Yanmars where the sun don't shine
That only applies to the Ag tractors...and they do NOT have yanmar engines
@@PaulChristenson I've had Yanmar marine engines for years...I would consider them a plus in my choice of tractor.
@@roflstomps324
John Deere engines are produced in different factories worldwide: Saran (France), Waterloo (USA), Torreon (Mexico), Pune (India), and Rosario (Argentina).
John Deere was one of the first engine manufacturers to certify 75-to-174-hp diesel engines as compliant with EPA Interim Tier 4, EU Stage III B, and CARB emissions regulations.
These are the AG tractor engines that people are complaining about NOT being able to work on because of DMCA...NOT the yanmar engines you find on the CUTs
@@roflstomps324 You are describing tractors SMALLER than SERIES 5...which are not really used in large AG ops...the DMCA that the OP was complaining about are only found on JOHN DEERE Tier 4 engines chip sets...none of which are yanmar engines...:(
Heck I've even got one of these yanmar powered JD's 3028r that I use as the farm's lawnmower...and there are no DMCA chip sets in it
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The problem with John Deere is not the quality of their tractors but the price they charge for them.
Well I had a Kabota for 20 years, and used it a few times a month each month for 20 years. Only problem I ever had with it was a dead battery. It did fade in color and started to rust. So I pulled off the hood and fenders sanded it down and repainted them along with the rims. Looked brand new all over again. I'd still have that tractor if my dad didn't take it from me and tell me to go but my own tractor. lol Dick! Still in the family since 1978. Still runs great.
At 69 year old i can remember when tractors were made to last a couple of lifetimes, now it is a search to find the best junk made today.
kubota
People are living longer now. 😂
Allis-Chalmers
This video has made me want to buy a Kubota.
Yeah me too. Id rather buy a tractor that doesn't demand its own proprietary parts and attachments.
How were they used where were they stored
How do you know that wasn't my plan all along?!? 😂😉👨🌾🚜👩🌾
I bought a Kubota.
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John Deere or Kubota, both great machines, not much price difference in the medium compact utility tractors. Came down to dealership, location and the salesman. I bought a JD 2038r, love it!
After hearing what farmers has to go through to get some service when John Deere breaks down, I think Kubota may be the better option.
All manufacturers are like that now I don't get why John Deere cops all the flack
Plastic eventually degrades with sun and ozone exposure. It can crack. Steel CAN rust but if properly cared for it will last longer than plastic. I do agree the twin touch pedals are easier to use but I never hit the forward pedal instead of the brake in 20 years.
The reason the deers look better is because they are sitting at dealerships being worked on while Kubotas are being worked with.
Good one.
Rather have metal, plastic cracks, breaks. Easy to repair metal. Went to John deer to buy tractor. I asked questions and the dealer seemed like he did not have time for me. Went to kubota and the dealer answered all my questions. I paid cash for my new Kubota.
A good dealer makes all the difference
Dennis Hinckley Same here. JD dealership here in town. They didn’t answer my questions. Drove 15 miles down the hill and bought an L-3200. Was going to pay cash but they offered 5 year, zero interest financing. Kept my money working for me and paid it off just before I retired. The only issue I have had was a need to adjust the neutral switch under the dash. A 15 minute repair thanks to University of CZcams.
I love my L3901. This is my first tractor. I operated a Deere, Kubota, New Holland, and Mahindra before buying. Comparing tractors is like whole "apples and oranges" problem, but here are my observations. The Deere is iconic, but when I operated a 30xx model, I had the same feeling as sitting on a riding mower outside of Home Depot. The lack of weight was not helped by the plastic body. This new Deere's storage door on the fender would not even close because of the flex in the plastic. It just felt "cheap". I am sure that it is a fine tractor, but considering I was about to spend more than 20K it did not leave me with a good impression. The Mahindra was the cheapest of the tractors and it felt like it. The Mahindra's body is all metal, and because of or the roughness of the engine it rattled badly (remember I am talking new tractor here). The lower dash panel had already detached was being held in place by one screw. The Kubota was all metal and felt solid. It was heavier than the Deere, but was no bigger. It was the more expensive tractor. The NH was actually my favorite by just a hair. Although in the same class, it was the heaviest and biggest (outside dimensions). The NH was almost a foot wider than the Kubota and was slightly cheaper. The downsize to this is that because of the width you might have to buy larger attachments than you might need (72" as opposed to 60"), but the cost difference would cover a couple larger implements. The New Holland was the most comfortable to operate for me. Being my first tractor I relied on what information I could find on the internet, from experienced friends, and by my own observations of what professionals were using. Everybody liked the Kubotas, and this is what I saw most private companies using at job sites along with New Hollands. I see very few Deeres being used by private bussineses, but mainly by private individuals. The few Deeres I see being used as a fleet tractor is usually always government public works departments. I assume that is because of cost and some public departsments have requirements to use "American Made" products where possible. Mahindras are pratically not used by anyone other than for private use (in my part of the country at least). My final decision between the Kubota and the NH was based upon the dealership locations. There was a Kubota dealer less than 10 miles away, but the closest NH was 60 miles. I bought the Kubota at another dealer that was also 60 miles away, but I know I can get maintenance parts within a few minutes of my home. Now here are some things I do not like about the Kubota. The heel-toe pedal. That pedal is a pain when you have to turn to look back over your right shoulder while trying to operate the lift on the three-point hitch and move back or forward. Also, Kubota in another video brags about the location of their ignition switch. Cant tell you how many times I have jabbed my right knee into the key. On the other side is the position of the head light/turn signal/hazard flasher switch. I hit it at least once per day with my left knee and turn my hazard lights on. Lastly is the fuel tank. It is located on top of the rear of the engine, so you have to climb up on the tractor to fill the tank. Between the location and those stupid valves on fuel cans now. If you buy a Kubota, make your first accessory a big funnel. YOU WILL BE TAKING THE NOSSLE OFF THE FUEL CAN AND PORING THE DIESEL IN DIRECTLY FROM THE CAN. Nothing here is a deal breaker, but is somethings they could fix next time they have a redesign.
Nice review. I like the pedal ...mine is L4701...You are sooo right about the light switch. I'm always turning it off. A SHORT suggestion (you probably know). Get a diesel (yellow) VIP Racing can - you can find them in many tractor stores or on Amazon. They are vented, 5 gallon and have a VERY big top cap with a screw in tube. I changed the hose on mine, added a ball valve and a right angle. I use one of those cheap hoists $150 or so to put it up there. There is probably no good place to fill a tractor if using a 5 gallon can that is not vent and takes two hands to hold the valve open.. It becomes difficult in any location. Best Wishes, Larry
Great info, thank you
I’ve got a Kubota, an old Ford, and just bought a new 3035d John Deere today! The Kubota has been a tough one. But my local shop is a John Deere dealer. Convenient for me. I’m sure it a great tractor also!
Awesome, hope you enjoy it!
Kubotas are super reliable and capable even the little ones. There are cheaper tractors but I would buy a 2nd hand Kubota above a new cheaper one any time.
This was a useful video. Thank You, Courtney!
And before people say that John Deere is forcing everybody into buying their loader attachments, there are plenty of 3rd party companies that make stuff with the John Deere quick attach
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2 years ago I bought a brand new John Deere 3025e. I own a tree service so we use it daily for hauling logs and tree debris to the dump trailer. We have used and ABUSED this machine, maxing out the lifting capacity countless times per day EVERY day. Now with 500 hours on the dash and 1 oil change since new I've never had one single problem other than a new battery and a busted hydraulic line which was my own fault. I'm not going to tell you my little green tractor is better than your little orange tractor but I can tell you that this green machine was worth every single penny I paid for it. I'd buy another one in a heartbeat.
That is a great real world testament!
On my way to the JD dealer I stopped by the Kubota dealership looked at and test drove a 3030 with a cab. Salesman didn't seem too interested in my needs.
That's a very important factor regardless of what brand you end up with. Having good dealer support nearby will prove invaluable during the course of long-term tractor ownership.
Take the time to talk to the service department while at the dealer. I have many dealers around me. I look forward to going into some while others give a chill down my spine.
Point #1. The tractors can have more hours and have had a different life so it’s not very accurate.
Real Moronosity Very true. All I can say is I take a pass on two to three times the amount of Kubota tractors than John Deere specifically because they are cosmetically rough. I'm sure that's because Kubota owners use their tractors while John Deere owners leave them in the barn, haha! ;)
When we were kidding guys about their truck, invariably one would say "my brand will run twice as many miles as yours. And the answer was always "that's because your truck would only run half the time."
both are very good tractors in my opinion. both have there pros and cons. I have a john deere dealer 10 miles away and a kubota dealer 70 miles away. I went with orange simply because the green dealership guys were A holes
I would go into that JD dealer with my Kubota and make sure to let them know too. Driving an extra 120 miles round trip just to avoid the guy nearby means they must have been terrible.
I had the same issue. The JD dealership salesman was arrogant and thought I'd buy based on the name. Drove an extra 10 miles to Kubota and was treated with respect. I let the JD dealer owner know too. A year and half later JD dealership closed down but the Kubota dealership is still thriving. You can have the best product in the world but if you don't treat customers with respect you'll never make it.
Yeah both good names I totally agree it's down to the dealer ...I bought a kioti the dealer is 2 miles away and the service guys are awesome ...went to John deere and the sales guy said we don't need to sell tractors they sell themselves ...bad mentality ....
Must be a green thing. I walked into a JD dealership years ago looking to by a bar for my Stihl no one would give me the time of day. I assume because I was young at that time and didn’t have much moneys. Well things have changed over the past 15 years and guess what....... I never forgot how I was treated. I have not even considered a JD mainly because of that dealer but also BC of the plastic panels.
@@michaelhurley5676 Boy, isn't that the truth. When we bought our last tractor (2017), we visited several dealers. The green dealer was terrible. The sales person was just gazing out the window and never even said hello or asked what we were looking for. After the receptionist ask what we wanted, I ask to speak with the sales person. She pointed to him. We went over and told him what tractor we wanted to look at. He said "I don't think we have anything like that", and did not even turn around. We left and walked past the NEW tractor we were interested in. He show no interest in selling a tractor. After that, I wouldn't buy green if the offered a 50% discount (which nobody will do) because I really think NONE of these tractors is any better than the dealer you choose. I think a tractor dealer might do well to say Hello and show an interest when someone wants to buy a product for 50K or more. They should remember if you make a person comfortable with the dealer, they will tell another person. If you offend them they will tell 14 people. I talked with my friends and was told Horrendous stories about green dealers not supporting products sold. But that is just in my location.. I will say that if owned a farm with several thousand acres to farm, it makes a lot of sense to go green because of all the implement offered and onsite service, (especially since most equipment software is still owned by Deere and not the equipment owner, thereby requiring dealer service.). Seems if you have a good dealer, you probably have a good tractor, if you have a dealer that is not very good, you may have a not very good tractor.
What is the biggest tractor I can get with an under belly mower I have to go with JD because of parts
I believe a 3046r. I was speaking with a JD salesman recently who said they've completely stopped making the 4 Series with mid PTO. However, as we all know, reliability of salesman information can vary.
I have a 2005 John Deere 1023 and it looks like new! One thing I like is the separate forward and reverse pedals! The one piece rocker pedals suck! Very uncomfortable and was a no sale on all the mfgs I looked at!
I agree. I had a difficult time with Kubota foot pedals-on turns reversing etc. Darn tough to get leg that far back when working with a heavy soul conditioner. Also need both feet on one side of Kubota for many turns, etc. Stupid set up. Deere is much easier to operate and love the cab on Deere.
An old used car salesman told me “there’s an ass for every seat”
I see the pros and cons of both, decent tractors. the service after the sale is a big deciding factor though. I've noticed the rental stores in my area almost all carry the Kuboto. When I asked my friend who owns one of those stores he said that when pricing equal performance level models the JD is always substantially more expensive. He also says the Kubota is easier to work on and parts are also more accessible and priced better but maybe that is due to the Kubota dealers locally. I know im ready to trade in my 2016 Mahindra that constantly loses prime for some reason.
How are you supposed to use the brake pedals individually for braking/turning when the brake pedals are right about the directional control and speed control for the hydrostatic? Are you supposed to bring your left leg across to work the direction control?
Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Seems you have to be some kind of contortionist to use the individual brakes for sharper turning. Thanks for your response.
The break placement on the Kubota prevents the use of breaks as an aid in steering. That is the biggest issue I have with Kubota. We have a lot of tight spaces in our facility and that is a big need for us.
I have noticed the same thing looking at some used Kubotas. They show what I would call signs of some pretty severe usage. I have watched on some of the you tube tractor videos where some people are what I would call abusing their equipment. Wear and tear accrues fast enough without expediting the process. I like to take care of my equipment and see how long that I can get it to last. I have a 1949 Case SC and a 1953 John Deere model 50 with the #45 mechanical loader. Both tractors have the original rear tires on them. Each with a fair amount of rubber left. Both tractors are in reasonably good shape with only a couple of small dings in each. They spend most of their time parked inside of a shed ready to go to work whenever they are called to do so.
One other thing that I have noticed about the Kubotas, is that the paint seems to fade pretty quickly. Mine is always shedded when not in use and spends very little time in direct sunlight. I also wax my tractors frequently. I'd like to think that they have a good home. Don't get me wrong, they have to work to earn their keep. I just don't beat them. I treat them as if it would cost a fortune to fix stuff that I break, mainly because it does.
Gary from Iowa
I totally agree with the plastic panels being the better option. I was moving a pool deck with my 3320 last fall I miss judged the center of gravity and the deck landed on my hood the weight of the decks smashed the plastic down pretty good. Soon as I got to back off and went right back to its original shape with nothing more than a scuff that can be buffed out. If that was a steel hood it would’ve been replacement time. And if you were to crack the plastic can easily be repaired with a harbor freight plastic welder and xenoy rods.
That's an excellent example. Thanks for sharing. I pass on purchasing numerous Kubota's because of hood damage. So many have dents, dings, and rust all over. John Deere's simply don't do that. They also don't fade like Kubota's (I know they finally have a new paint formula). Rarely does a John Deere tractor hood or fender crack or break. I have seen it happen, but on far fewer occasions than I've seen messed up panels on Kubota.
Once the plastic gets sun weathered its not repairable.. a metal hood will last a lifetime regardless or how its treated or left in the sun..
Can you get a skidloader quick attach on a John deer?
Sure can
Hello! Looking for a three point counter weight box?? To help with my front loader
Ok plastic vs metal treddle peddle quick attached john deer quick attach or Universal attach good video. Am in the market still looking tho you made some good points
I would rather have metal than poly any day.
Plus one. Poly is better in the short term, but tractors are not like cars and they should last 30 plus years. In 30 years you will not be able to get either one of these hoods........ But the metal one will dent and you can fix and paint it. The plastic one..... you break it...... you are screwed. Its called planned obsolescence, and like most auto manufacturers this seems to be the way john Deere is going. I kind of have to question just how many years this guy has been around tractors.
The plastic one he shows was probably never used in the woods or given to the hired hand to use day in and out. These look mostly like suburanite tractors, maybe used to till a lawn at the worst.... not fill a manure spreader. Under real work, scratches and fading happen. The plastic cracks.... and the whole piece needs to be replaced. Yes, the metal dents... but just slam that dent out the best you can and keep going....
John deere= Ford
Kubota= Toyota
If I had to pick a vehicle to get me through a desert where if something broke I would be dead............. I would take a Toyota every time and tell my friends I took the Ford. Hey I'm patriotic.
o- I drive a Dodge.... and yes... its a POS.
Those plastics panels have saved me a ton of money. They flex when hit and debris just bounces off. I would have spend hundreds if not thousands replacing metal panels. The plastic panels and where they use them are FAR superior to metal.
Same even if the paint is striped off
@@bigd9260 you can repair plastic... if you can pull out a welder and peice togeather a metal hood, then you can mix up a resin and fix the poly hood... dont hate plastic it's a magic material, they have polymer resins that you mix into putty then drys and becomes metal or wood... I'm a plastics guy all day... that being said I drive a toyota lol
Paul Stringer I guess you have not had a none caring Spanish speaking person use your equipment they do not care all they are therefore is the money and when something happens to it they will just say I don’t know what happened it was like that when I got on it Even thought they were the only one running it And you have to eat it because they are from a different country but if I pulled that with you You would climb down my ass and back out because the real Americans get treated that way. I should know I worked on a dairy farm with 90 percent of the workers were Spanish oriented and watched them get away with murder so to speak. And got punished because I didn’t kiss there ass
When I was looking for a 40hp it was between Green and Orange. Next to no for used Orange at the lot, Went to JD and had a pile of trade ins! Low hour Golf Coarse tractor with the big turf tires and remotes! Added the front end loader and a blade and snowblower and was still half the price. That was a 4320 and now looking for the same with a cab. Hydro would be ok but shuttle shift is nice too. Now looking at price points for Koiti also. Another thing, I cut 3 acres of grass and the Kabota does not have a beer holder in the fender like JD lol
Haha, well you can't own a tractor without a beer holder :)
I really like the handful of Kioti's I've taken on trade. However, I have heard from several different folks that their corporate support is horrible. Dealers try to service as best they can, but getting parts and trouble shooting can be a nightmare. This is all second hand information, but it's been from different individuals over the last year or two, so have to assume there's a bit of truth somewhere.
@@GoodWorksTractors Thanks for the super fast reply! On a side note, I use it for firewood in the winter and at -20 in the bush the poly will flex and not break.
Probably staying Green
I have a Kubota L6060. The hydrostat pedal is different from any of the ones that you showed and I like it very well plus the brakes are on the left side (no clutch pedal on the hydrostat) so it is all very easy to use. I love the computer control between the go pedal and the transmission with the cruise control feature that automatically adjusts speed for the load so that I don't stall the engine but keep it keep it working at full power. My tractor has a category 2 hitch while the comparable Deere has a category 1 and most of the time I need the bigger hitch. I bought mine very lightly used and got a huge discount so if there is faster depreciation it worked to my advantage. I really like being able to share implements with my friend that owns some skid steers. My only complaints on the tractor are the faster paint fade plus the rear tires don't spread as far as they did on my old Ford 3000 and I don't feel as secure when sideways on hills.
On the plastic hoods - you may be right cosmetically, but steel bends, and can be bent back. Plastic breaks and stays broken. The floorboard dent on that Kubota would probably have been a floorboard fracture if it had been made of plastic. Now you have a functional problem instead of a cosmetic one. In my opinion, steel beats plastic for just about any purpose (with the exception of fuel tanks).
You're right on though about the hydro pedals. As someone who's run both, Deere's setup is VASTLY superior to Kubota's in every way. It's quicker and easier to shuttle between forward and reverse, it keeps the floorboard open, and you can actually use the brakes. Kubota's "treadle pedal" absolutely sucks. Some of them have the brakes on the left side (like the Deere), and that's much better, but the treadle is still a pain, and I find myself fighting the damned thing every time I use a tractor with it (which is just about every day). You have to lift up with your toe to run it effectively (using your heel is just slow, awkward, and imprecise), but even at that, you can't use the brakes, and lifting up is still awkward and very tiring on your leg muscles.
You're also right about the loader removal process, no question.
No, the dent wouldn't have been a break in plastic. I've sold hundreds and hundreds of each tractor. I see dented panels constantly, as in almost every Kubota that I take in. I've had a small handful of cracked panels on JD. In fact, I can count them on one hand. It's incredible the resiliency of the polymer panels.
Watch this video of them dropping a bowling ball on each hood. czcams.com/video/eg6kEb3zmjs/video.html
Well, it's hard to say, just looking at a dent - maybe the JD floorboards are stronger than I think, but we have three Kubota tractors and one Deere at work, and the only one with any broken body panels is the Deere. It has a shattered panel which covers the fuel tank (not the hood), and it makes unscrewing the fuel cap dangerous to the knuckles. One of our Kubotas is a '91 L2550, and has taken a real beating over the years. It's covered with dents and scratches and doesn't look good, but nothing's broken and it's functionally perfect because damaged steel can be fixed with anything from bare hands to a welder, depending. Sure, it might dent more easily than plastic will break, but steel can be FIXED which is my main point.
All that said, I love the Deere overall, and have been pretty disappointed with the newer Kubotas (not the L2550; it's a great little tractor), so I'm not bagging on JD. I just wish they had easily fixed steel body panels. ;)
Who in hell ever bends metal dents back on a tractor? Maybe that moron on green acres?
The last thing I worry about is cosmetic beauty in a tractor. I need it work hard, not break down, and do what I want it to do. I don't need it to work a fashion show. JD was too undependable for me and that outweighed all it's benefits.
You're on the right track. That isn't what most buyers are concerned with unfortunately.
Hello thank you for responding to my wife's comment concerning 5 reasons John Deere is better than Kubota. I was surprised to receive a reply and quickly too so thank you. In the piece you put together is the John Deere r series tractor in a class higher than every other one in the piece? I thought the r series is the grand Ls competitor. I'm not as knowledgeable as you and am new to tractors so I just thought I would ask you. Thanks
How does one use the turning brakes on a Kubota if the brakes and the hydro pedals are the same side?
Not lucky, my old Fords were the same, kubota just pure dependable! I am president of an Hvac company, do not have time for equipment failure. Mine stay undercover and serviced regular. They just start everytime. In any weather.
Awesome, glad to hear you've had such a great experience!
I own a 2016 3033R and love it regardless of if it is plastic or not, stop ramming your machine into things. I always liked the treadle pedal though.
Lol, yeah running into stuff is bad no matter what it's made of :)
How many hours on each machine when you compare the metal vs polymer structures? Were both left outside? Many possible differences not mentioned.
2002 John Deere 4610, 760 hours
2016 John Deere 3039r, 30 hours
2004 John Deere 790 (metal hood, fenders), 460 hours
2004 Kubota b7800, 780 hours
2015 Kubota B2650HSDC, 80 hours
2012 Kubota L3700SU, 400 hours
These are simply examples. I have hundreds of sold tractors that provide basis for my opinion. Of course there's variables. However, leave a Kubota sit outside and it will fade to the point that it can't be restored. That doesn't happen to JD.
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Thanks for the info.
@@GoodWorksTractors : Fade to the point it can’t be restored? It can’t be sanded and repainted?
My broinlaw says the SUN has eaten up his polymer hood even though it's parked under a shed and gets indirect light.
And he doesn't own a bowling ball so dropping one on the hood is pretty much a moot point....
Kubota or JD/Yanmar, the're both exellent Japanese tractors eh... Ü
I've operated both and I find a Kubota to be a far better tractor.
I was looking at a John Deere things I like things I don't as with other brands. Problem I had here was went to 2 opposing deere dealers in my area. Neither seemed intersested in wanting
to sell me one very bad.
My 2 cents worth.
Old JDs are better.
Newer Kubotas are better.
Overall though... they both make awesome machines, and it's going to be your local dealer / service center that will make or break your experience with these beasts.
I just can’t make up my mind between Kubota and the Deere,certain things I like and dislike on both
Reasons JD is better?
Plastic panels?
Push forward to go backwards?
Loader removal? ( still need to leave the tractor to disconnect the hydraulics)
John Deere proprietary Quick Connect? That matches 0 Universal attachments.
Orange sticks out more then green, especially in a field.
Kubota holds its value just as well and cost less to begin with.
Every point you made, is a reason why Kubota is better than John Deere.
I see you have a lot of questions :)
I sell both, I like both, I'm not a bleed green guy or bleed orange guy. I have experience selling them, using dozens and dozens of models of each brand, having a wide range of hours on them, from 2000-2018 model years. This is based on my experience. I wouldn't expect everyone to agree. Especially someone biased towards Kubota. I'm not biased either way.
I have another video coming out giving 5 reasons why Kubota is better than John Deere. I give love to each.
Good Works Tractors I'll admit I'm biased. John Deere dealer was a jerkoff, I now have 3 kubota's.
I hear you.
Outside of the tractors themselves, I think local dealer availability and level of service has the biggest impact on choosing a tractor brand.
Then how come Kubota has hydraulic problems
Farmman2004 yes..... I have 2 kabota's with hydro issues. An 855 jd with 1900hrs and no problems.
Poly might be great in areas that don't receive massive amounts of UV, like AZ. My '12 NH started out medium blue, now it's almost white from fading. My '12 Volvo mini x is the same....very faded.
Kubota's are the king of color fade. They are the absolute worst. The only saving grace is Kubota has changed their paint formula to combat this problem. Hope it works.
will the poly resin hold up in the cold? because my old newholland with plastic fenders cracked up pretty quickly.
I've never had an issue. Watch the John Deere video in my description. They drop something on a frozen hood with no issues.
im not going to purly dis agree with u but yea im gonna put my 2cents and personal experience in
reason one john deere uses plastic that gets weak after 9months of being in a not full inclosed shed and first thing u do next season it cracks and or just flat out breaks apart leaving giant holes in the hood and or fenders because again plastic NOT METAL
so that right out the gate being a reason y its better is kinda bullcrap
the 4610 looked like it was a garage kept tractor barely used to do anywork while the kubota looked like it was used as a honest work tractor so the point of "john deere looks better" is pretty much void because it looks like it was barely used
reason 2 the hydro pedals is honestly what u get use to and what u like better its not a reason y one is better its really personal choice me i like my standard gear trans so i can put it in 2nd and go i dont really care for hydro unless im doing loader work and then i dont like one over the other its what ever i have at the time i prefer the kubota over john deere but i own a john deere as well as my kubota
reason3 the loaders uh yea they both suck tbh john deere is decent the newer kubota one is pretty good but they both still suck to me
reason4 the buckets john deere has its own conectors its own style of stuff for their tractors kubota uses a skid steer style yes its an upgrade but least if u get the upgrade u can use 99% of attachments
reason 5 is not really a good reason i bought my john deere brand new and my kubota brand new both at the same time one was about 23k the other was closer to 30k reason i bought one of each instead of just 2 of one is simply because i needed 2 tractors that could do the same jobs day in day out one for me to use one for my brother to use
the kubota was 23k has been in the shop twice for actual repairs the john deere spends about 90% of its time in the shop waiting on new parts idk if i just got a steaming heap of crap or what but for 30k i exspect a tractor to do work and pay for itself
had both of them for about 3years now one has 700 hrs the other has 400 ill let u guess which has what
the list of things ive had to replace on the kubota is real simple tires which was a pain in the ass btw all the oils and the air/oil filters which they took me about 3hrs to do everything other then the tires which took 2days for new tires to get here
the list of stuff to be replaced on the john deer is alot longer ive had to have the entire trans changed out twice had the hydro sytem to completely fail and i can make a list a mile long
for me myself and i my kubota has been better then the john deere ever dreamed of being
rather i just got factory new turds or john deere is honestly just garbage idk but my experience wth the 2 brands just makes me not want another john deere i just cant say much good about john deere when they have shown me they let crap parts pass
seras gaming dude. My tractor stays outside in the elements because I don’t have anywhere to store it. Even if I could put it under a roof it would be my lean to, which is also exposed to the elements minus the sun. My 3025E never had an issue and my 4044m has no issues and as said outside in this brutal Florida sun and humidity.
Don't forget the plastic radiator and plastic timing cover.
JD may be the best, but your statement about finding other tractor dealers is just not true. Off the top of my head, I can think of a MF, Mahindra, Yanmar and Kubota dealerships all within an hour of where I live in Northern Ohio.
Christ, that's more than 2 pence worth !!
Kubota is just rock-solid. John Deere cannot touch Kubota. They just hands-down build the most durable, most solid, most robust tractors out there. I have an '83 B5100 4x4 that my father-in-law gave me 2 years ago with the original fluid in all the cases. Starts and runs like a top from 90* to -10* with no issues. It's a 12hp beast! The only tractor I would ever buy would be Kubota!
Kioti is 300 lbs of steel heavier than Kubota.
I'm turned off on John Deere, I bought a new riding mower and used it twice. And put it away for the winter it worked well the first 2 times, and the following year I used it and it streaked the yard I messed with the deck and tried it again still streaked the yard. I called the service center and they picked it up and kept it a month. They call and said they thought they had it fixed and they said they were unable to get it to adjust and had to put a new mower deck on it. They brought it back and I mowed the yard and it still streaked the yard I called them back and they returned and tried to adjust the deck and it is still not level. I guess I will have to do it myself, why should I buy a service contract when I have to do the repair work myself.
Watched the kobota is better 1st then this. As a older male with home & land owning a JD is similar to owning a Rolex Submariner watch. I'm a classic tractor fan and yes JD's are highly prized with most collectors except MM UDLX. Where i live lawns are very uncommon in Nevada. Either it's 117 or 35 degrees. Found your site searching JD X758 tractors. #1 for me would be the pedal setup on JD's #2 resale value #3 appearance longevity & #4 it's a John Deer. Great Presentation !
Thank you Mark. Insightful response. Happy New Year!
Heavy engineering vs smart engineering
Both tractors are very good.KUBOTA in my opinion,built in japan,thats why every manufacturer is chasing Kubota and yanmar for there tier 4 engines.Even before tier 4,yanmar and Kubota are the 2 top diesel engine makers.The Japanese are absolute masters of refinement and fit and finish.I looked at john deere,case,kubota,kioti,before I bought my L2501,All good tractors,i guess,But the Kubota prevailed due to dealership locale,and dealer service.ALSO,why would you buy a Mahindra,Jinma,LS,Branson and all the obscure brands,when for a few more dollars,in the long run,you get a better tractor with the Big name guys?Look at the wiring,hoses,gauges,switches,on some of the no name tractors,very cheaply built.I've purchased and run several pieces of equipment,Excavators,skidsteers,zero turns,Compact tractors.Due yourself a favour people,buy name brand,and preferably with a YANMAR or KUBOTA diesel,both top notch engines,period.Thats my experience.Im half a century old.
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Plastic type panels,! Are they the Best? Compared to metal??? After 10 years of outdoor exposure to uv, my choice is METAL..?
A tractor is a tool, not a status symbol. We buy tools to do the work and not break down in the process. If you want to sell or trade it later, resale value is very important unless you have more money than good sense. JD's always hold their resale value better than others for good reasons. No argument necessary-- It's as simple as that.
In todays market, both are holding their values much higher than they should. My 2001 B2410 is selling for what I paid for it 20 years ago. When I bought it came down to price and the Bota beat the Deere by $2000. In 20 years I replaced the hood latch, fuel cap, and the hood rod( I bent it being stupid). The only maintenance it needed were new seals on the front axle where they split for steering, all told not including oil and filters, I spent maybe $200 in parts and did the work myself. The battery itself lasted 16 years. More reliable than the 3 Toyotas I once owned.
Looks like the Kubota was used as a working tractor. The Deere looks like it was parked more than it was used what’s the engine hours on both ?
The highest hour JD and highest hour Kubota in the video each have around 770 hours.
Yes but if the plastic gets hit and bust up. You have to replace and spend more on the green. But like every person we will all have our favorites.
Can a extra step be put on to a John Deere Tractor so I can access it better?
On the Kubota you might hit the forward petal when hitting the brakes. JD solved this by getting rid of the brakes. Maybe you are supposed to be able to hit both the forward petal and the brake like for turning sharper?
JD didn't get rid of the brakes. Their brake is on the left side.
If you are working the winter with a salt the newer John Deere won't rust .I buy John Deere hands down.
Love John Deere equipment, Hate John Deere the proprietary company. Everything they design is made with the idea"how can we force the customer to buy parts , attachments, batteries etc. From a dealer ? ". Their sorry quick attach bucket breaks pins regularly, as well as the long rod that runs from one side of the lower pivet but it's bastard like they want it. We have 3 kubotas and love them .
I like the tredal pedal on my cub cadet, but they really messed up putting the brake pedals right there. Plastic looks good longer unless damaged, and is harder to damage, but metal can in theory be repaired more and easier. I had a 10 year old Saturn, so I've seen how hard plastic can be to repair and have it last, and also how durable it is long term.
I own a John Deere and my buddy has a Kubota. I’ve enjoyed my Deere but my buddy has now bought another Kubota and let me know he is thinking of selling his other Kubota and I’m considering it. Deere parts are crazy expensive and it I can’t seem to find cheaper parts online. It’s like Deere has a lock down on their parts where u have to buy them from a dealer with jacked up prices. I do really like my Deer but it’s not cheap to maintain.
"I'll never put my name on a product that doesn't have the best in it that is in me" said no one at Kubota.
Well, since the John Deere subcompacts are Yanmar, I think one may want a Kubota. At least it's honestly a Kubota, not something else.
sorry but metal beats plastic number 1 reason goes to kubota
I do agree with the side by side pedals, they are much better than the heal toe pedal, but that don’t make the tractor better, both have the good and the bad points.
Agreed which is why I also have a video about the areas I think Kubota beats John Deere.
Did you even listen to the video?
Local Kubota dealers are helpful and professional. Local Deere dealers don't want to be bothered with small operators. So...I traded in my 1971 JD301a for an L2501 Kubota. Now I get parts without attitude.
One word: "propietary"
That's ALL I needed to hear.
Currently shopping for a Kubota!
EXACTLY, F THAT! I dont need proprietary filters...
Kubota is both better value and product. If JD could cost reduce putting a kubota engine in those tractors instead of a yanmar they probably would! Not saying its junk, just overpriced. Kubota quick attach is skid steer style which is a huge deal.
just my opinion.
Hmm, is there something that shows Yanmar is more expensive than Kubota engines? I know Yanmar tractors are cheaper than JD or Kubota so what's that about?
Sounds like it is all about how much markup can we make on this yanmar engine in our green chassis.
You said it, Yanmar tractors are cheaper and they are nice. Why is JD more expensive for the same size tractor?
Good Works Tractors yanmar is the top producer of diesels in the world.
solorsix JD also offers skidsteer quick attach. Also an option like on Kubota
So, the engine is the only component in a tractor? No other engineering required? The engine is an important piece, but ONLY a piece of the puzzle.
How much like this tractor mini 2015 or 2016 sir
We have a Massey Ferguson 1710 we love it. Just make sure you have a good dealership what ever you buy.
Yep, that's very important. Thanks for watching!
Treadle pedals like on the Kubota are THE WORST. granted, I’ve never been on a Kubota, but I have used other turf equipment with treadle pedals, and they suck. I much prefer the separate design John Deere offers.
I'm with ya!
You do like to put the stick in the hornets nest don't you...:)
This should generate lots of views and lots of responses...:)
Haha, yeah it was a bit polarizing :)
Power reversar tractor best or non power reversar
Must be different than JD lawn mowers my X320 hood cracked all the way down just raising it up one day..2011 model and it was about 2018 when it busted..it also dulls..The metal parts of the mower like the fender and lower deck and wheels like new still almost..I was also told Kubota switched to a more UV Resistant aotomotive style paint 3 or 4 years back that is not as prone to fading.
That green paint is EXPENSIVE. If under warranty, fine, but dealer will still find a way into your bank account. If out of warranty, look out, you are about to get reamed in the bank account HARD. If you are able to do repairs yourself, okay until technical information is needed, then you are seriously SOL. John Deere feels technical work is proprietary, and will not assist in any way, shape, or form. Buy older models without computer systems. You'll save money in the long run.
I would say that dealer assistance is predicated more on your individual dealer than the manufacturer as a whole. There's good and back John Deere, Kubota, New Holland, etc dealers all over. Some are very helpful and some make you change brand loyalty because they're so awful.
They are both reliable good tractors. This video points out minor differences that this guy sees as being advantages and disadvantages. In today's day and age both are going to be solid tractor that will last a long time.
Exactly. Both are good, reliable machines. Just a things I've noticed along the way. I would expect anyone who's been around them to have their own opinions too. Thanks for the feedback :)
Yea sure spend more money for the green paint. Then spend more because you either need adapters or jd implements. And when a dealer says if you dont use the 3pt it locks up. Nah anything but jd.
I've never heard of the 3 point locking up. What model?
I have a JD 2016 1025r. Over I like it. I HATE the fact that they don’t use stainless steel washers and bolts to hold the floor mats Down. They rust all to hell from the salt from my spreader. It’s a small thing but you see it every time you get on the tractor.
Yes, JD, Kubota, New Holland, any other...you will find rust if you are using a salter. Same thing with trucks. Salters are the problem. Equipment isn't designed to withstand that level of corrosive exposure.
I raise you: allis chalmers
Ive never even driven a tractor why am I here
thatallredheadude 1 maybe there's something missing in your life ;)
The number one concern anybody should have it which dealer is closer to you to service your machine when it breaks. All machines break.
i am a deere fan but the scratches vs worn all depends on the user because it could e opposite
Yep, it could go either way depending on the user.
I have worked 26 yrs with dealership that sold both Kubota and John Deere. When John Deere cheapened everything up with plastic everything, and nitriled hydraulic rod cylinders saying way better....lol save money. Kubota is all Kubota. John Deere a mixture of Yanmar and other companies making a tractor for them to market. Kubota is all Kubota... chrome cylinder rods...heavy duty everything. John Deere cheap everything...small front axle, aluminum rear end, small axles, bull gear drive train...all cheap. Educate before buying either brand.
After 26 years at the dealership I figured you would have figured out Deere is the controlling partner in yanmar so it's a Deere company building stuff for Deere.
Had both ( I was not impressed with Deere)
I would stick with Orange every time Kubota builds a better machine
What model of each did you have?
Sirius Traveler my dad hit a large ass piece of metal with out Kubota and the metal hocked around the blade and stopped the engine he raised the deck up and i pulled the metal off and nothing was broken and he kept mowing.
Kubotas are built, designed, owned, by Kubota themselves.
Nothing labeled Deere under 200 hp is made by them and I'm pretty sure they got scooped up and are a subsidiary of a multinational conglomerate now.
I have a John Deere model 790 which I got new in 2002 and it works great, and the main thing I did not like about it was the way the battery is placed in it's compartment. I also have a John Deere model 3032E and it is a nice tractor, but the same problem is present in it also. I wish the company had learned along the way and made changes there. I noticed that the LS models are different and everything is easier to get to. The Massey Ferguson have easier battery compartments also. Other than that one problem my tractors are nice and I love working with them.
I thought the 790 battery was pretty easily accessible? That front grille comes off super quick and great access from there. Definitely harder to access the 3E batteries. I find it quite annoying. Thanks for watching!
i dont know why in every tractor video they are talking about 40 horsepower lawn tractors and not actually real ag tractors that are 200 to 620 horsepower
You may sell them, i have worked both, Kubota Rules! L3710 flawless, L5740 flawless, m7040 flawless, m5100 flawless, M5-091 flawless. They all work hard and do not break! Only one John Deere, that has been replaced on my farm, a GT235 flawless
Wow, everything you own is flawless. One lucky guy I guess :) Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
Is that the best you can do !...I'll stick with my Kubota thanks .
No sweat, they are also good machines. Thanks for taking the time!
Our 1996 kubota looks better than any of those Deere’s you got
Even the JD 3039r in the middle with 27 hours that looks better than some brand new one sitting on the lot? Share some pictures because that's incredible :)
Gerald Swain agreed.
Gerald Swain mainstay is best not trade for either one of them
Any timeline on the video about your process for cleaning up tractors. Curious to know your process and a before and after. I am impressed with all your videos because I judge how clean your used tractors are.
Howdy, I've got it on my list of videos for sure. I will plan to get to it sooner rather than later. Thanks for the kind words!
There's a reason for pinned on buckets. I believe you get a stronger curl. Kubota loaders do not come standard with pinned on buckets. Loaders are ordered by themselves and then a pinned bucket is ordered or a quick attach is ordered with a quick attach bucket.
there's a few problems with the vid (and i've worked on both brands so i've seen the difference).
fair points: on those particular models:
1) that's a nice display of tractors you have there; i wonder: how many are actually made by JD? most of the smaller JD stuff i've seen is actually a re-badged Yanmar. now don't get me wrong, Yanmar makes a decent tractor, but as my neighbor found out the hard way, finding parts for a tractor that is 20+ years old is difficult, where Kubota still makes replacement parts for even the oldest of it's tractors. there's only been a few models that they don't carry parts for anymore.
2) i've seen JD's with cracked bodywork, whereas a bent fender is still functional, a broken fender sometimes isn't due to where it cracks. unfortunately, they are all going to plastic bodywork, so for the brand new tractors it doesn't matter anyways.
3) the john deere pedal setup is better on the HST models, for the Kubota models, yes they suck, but that's not typical of all the models. the ones i own have HST on the right, brake on the left.
4) the quick release loader stands; i've never known anyone to remove their loader more than once in the tractors whole life, and that was to necessitate replacement of a clutch, so the 1 minute or so more that it takes to remove a Kubota loader is kinda irrelevant. 99% of the time you want the extra weight to increase traction and counterbalance a heavy implement on the back (try towing a heavy implement without some sort of ballast and see how well you pull wheelies).
5) JD'S "quick release" bucket shown is a proprietary design, so try finding off the shelf attachments that work with it, while it is optional (which agreed is dumb), the Kubota quick attach is the industry standard "skid steer" quick attach system that you can find on most all of the attachments available out there.
6) resale value? try finding any Kubota in those sizes with a loader for under $10-15K. it plain doesn't happen, unless it's completely clapped out or otherwise broken
7) take a close look at the size of the hydraulic cylinders on the JD vs. the same size Kubota. the Kubota cylinders are larger and have a higher capacity than the JD. also, take a look at the size of the loader frame of the JD, the Kubota is larger. in the end, it's just plain stronger. isn't that what you want in a tractor
1 -- Scroll through the comments and you find someone saying the exact opposite. Funny how opinions vary.
2 -- Sure, I've seen cracked fenders too. The point about poly is that overall it is much more resilient than metal. Make a stupid little mistake like dropping a chain on your hood and the damage is there forever with metal. You'll never know it happened on poly. There's a case for each.
3 -- I find it very typical and the Kubota's in the video of different years, frame sizes, and models were used to show the widespread usage of this design.
4 -- Folks remove loaders all the time. If they didn't, then why would JD and Kubota offer it? It's much more expensive than rigid mounted loaders.
5 -- Aftermarket attachments are available for JDQA. I am a dealer for several aftermarket manufacturers and the prices are much cheaper than from JD.
6 -- The 30HP Kubota (closest to the middle) has a loader and is $13,499+tax. So, I guess I found one :)
7 -- Hmm, I would respectfully have to disagree. I have found this to the be the opposite in my experience.
Thanks for taking the time to write such detailed feedback. I appreciate you sharing!
The number 1! reason john deere is better is PARTS AVALBILTY. All tractors have belts, filters and maintenance parts. But when you have a breakdown or you tear something up most 1st time tractor owners do. If john deere dose not have it in stock they can get it in 2DAYS OR NEXTDAY if you want to pay for nextday delivery charges. The other guys good luck sometimes just finding the parts.
Must be a new JD, because finding parts for an older JD is nearly impossible and expensive.
@@Scott-cu8nf Personally I have never had a problem finding parts for my 790 deere or my lx178 or even my old gx85. I order through greenpartstore dot com and you can pull up exploded views on the entire tractor or deck. Something to check out.
I admit that I have caught my toe under the pedal on my bosses kubota. It could have caused a serious accident because the gear selector popped out of gear on a hill, the tractor started to roll and because my toe got stuck it took a moment before I was able to get my foot on the brake. Scared the crap out of myself.
Yeah, that would be a scary moment for sure! Glad it turned out safely.