Drakengard 2 | A Complete History and Retrospective

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  • čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
  • Hey Dad,
    Today we're going to take a look at Drakengard 2, the forgotten entry in the series. Let's see if this "alternate timeline/sequel" still holds up today.
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    CHAPTERS
    Intro 0:00
    Development 2:28
    Drakengard 2 5:03
    Endings 50:19
    Final Thoughts 52:47
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Komentáře • 150

  • @kingimura2430
    @kingimura2430 Před 10 měsíci +72

    I literally just watched Eruptionfang's almost 7 hour long video on the entire NieR timelime a couple weeks ago. I love how the NieR series and Drakengard series are written and presented, and I'm totally looking forward to any new works from Yoko Taro.

    • @viderevero1338
      @viderevero1338 Před 10 měsíci

      That's what got me into Drakkenguard and Yoko Taro games overall as well. 😂

    • @sspd077
      @sspd077 Před 10 měsíci

      czcams.com/video/MciAyUaztU0/video.html
      the 4 min and 30 second mark when movie scene starts.

  • @jakefoley9539
    @jakefoley9539 Před 10 měsíci +66

    The cutscene where Caim and Angelus finally reunite and die together is one of the most emotional moments I've experienced in any video game. People talk about Taro being such an emotional puppet master but for me he has yet to achieve anything even close to that in any of the other Drakengard or Nier games.

    • @Road_to_Dawn
      @Road_to_Dawn Před 10 měsíci +8

      I have yet to personally play any of the Drakengard games or Nier Automata, but there was one scene in particular that hit me really hard in Nier Replicant, where…
      [spoilers]
      Fyra was killed by the wolves right after her wedding in Facade. It seemed like a real injustice to her after her hardships as a child, to finally grow up and go from nothing to becoming the queen, right before she’s murdered, I felt rage against the wolves and wanted her avenged as the rest of the party did.

    • @maximilianoramirez9489
      @maximilianoramirez9489 Před 10 měsíci +17

      Really? I feel like the Nier games exceeded in that and made even more powerful moments. Like when 9S and 2B find Emil's hideout.

    • @DemonLordSparda
      @DemonLordSparda Před 10 měsíci +10

      Some stuff in Nier Replicant and Automata are way more emotionally impactful for me personally.

    • @mr.raider7865
      @mr.raider7865 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Opening act to nier replicant is extremely rough

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Eh I think the canon ending of Drakengard 3 is way more emotional
      Same with pretty much anything involving 2b

  • @tlozfreak888
    @tlozfreak888 Před 10 měsíci +18

    Caim grinning is such a great face. Probably my favorite thing from this game. Not that it has a lot of competition.

  • @radagonsoreseal3457
    @radagonsoreseal3457 Před 10 měsíci +32

    The only reason 2 is hated is because it had no involvement with Yoko which is the whole reason people play his games because he has a special touch to them.
    That being said I don't think 2 is near as bad as people claim.

    • @blairfujin
      @blairfujin Před 10 měsíci +6

      It's pretty much as mediocore in its gameplay as 1 but without taro's stuff that elevated 1 to some it's... just that - mediocore, not really bad, just meh

    • @ScourJful
      @ScourJful Před 10 měsíci +8

      Tbf saying people disliked 2 for that reason is disingenuous. People dislike 2 not only because it has the same gameplay issues form 1, but it also lost what made 1 so special despite it's gameplay being so mediocre.
      2 isn't a horrible game, but all things considered it really lacks everything that mad both Drakengard 1 and 3 well loved.
      Not to mention I'd argue 2 also just has the worst storytelling somehow in large unnecessary essays of lore dumps everywhere as well the story being pretty bland.

    • @ags8507
      @ags8507 Před 10 měsíci +3

      it just repeats the same problems as the first game but doesnt have those wacky/insane story elements to make it up for it, its almost your typical bad jrpg game, there is a good reason the game is liked by very few

    • @KOTEBANAROT
      @KOTEBANAROT Před 10 měsíci +5

      Sawako natori had a way bigger influence on how drakengard 1 turned out to be though...

  • @Nicholas339
    @Nicholas339 Před 10 měsíci +28

    Happy SonDay!
    I'm proud of you enduring through 2 and I hope you stay strong for 3 and the jank and uhhh dialogue

  • @Thiago_Alves_Souza
    @Thiago_Alves_Souza Před 10 měsíci +25

    I wonder if after the Nier saga, if we're ever gonna get a Draken sequel to see what happened to their world once things were happening in our world during the Nier years.

    • @davidbird7328
      @davidbird7328 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Well the watchers probly destroyed it

  • @ShadowWolfRising
    @ShadowWolfRising Před 10 měsíci +20

    Zhangpo was likely going to be a boss originally, but probably got cut.
    If I'm not mistaken, there is art for him showing his pact creature and what he lost in the pact.
    He was bonded with Ifrit.
    He was born Pre-mature, so he was motivated to eat alot to get strong to makeup for it, but he also clearly enjoyed it.
    He lost his sense of taste.
    Also this wasn't mentioned in the previous game's review, but that Priest got the most absurdly lucky pact price when he made a pact with his dragon. He lost his hair. Just his fucking hair. For added What the fuckery, apparently out of all the pact makers, he regrets the price he paid the most............Yes, that's including all of them both enemy and ally, he regrets his loss more than Arioch and Hanch. Somehow. Granted it was because he was a huge ladies man so.....'Shrug',
    Hanch was a happy child, whose charm and smile warmed the entire village she was from..........And then she fell in the water and the Kelpie formed a pack with her. She lost her charm in the pact. Needless to say, this fucked her up mentally (Not unlike the Baby eating Elf from the previous game, who lost her womb and went insane as a result with her pact.) (Kinda bizarre though, looking at her she's not particularly bad looking, especially sitting her next to Zhangpo so.....'Shrug'.). For an added Bonus, she's also the one who made the poison that killed Nowe's adopted father and then one meant to kill Nowe himself.
    Name: Caim
    Job: Murdering People.
    Emotional State: 'While Murdering People.' Loving this shit.
    Yaha made his pact in an attempt to make Ulrik love him (It gave him the power to Charm People.......I bet Hanch was pissed when she found out.). He also had sex with a bunch of the Knights (And Verdelet the Priest from 1, who apparently is Bisexual.). He lost his ability to feel Pleasure in his pact (Again, Ironic Prices for each of them.......granted Looking back not entirely sure why Caim's pact price was his ability to speak. (Ok, apparently the reason was it was his last anchor to his humanity, his ability to communicate with people.........Which given how much he loves murder anyway, doesn't seem like the worst price.).).
    Gismor's Pact Partner is a Shadow, which made him lose his Physical body in his pact Deal..........Which given he can resume his normal form, even if as an Illusion, and he can still touch things, makes it seem his Pact Deal is the most bullshit and It doesn't seem to actually have a downside. Even the Priest regrets his hair loss due to being vain and a Womanizer (And whatever the equivalent for Chasing men is.). Interestingly, he was apparently a Soldier of the Empire in 1 and was persecuted for it. Also you fight Shadows in 1 who have similar powers as him, so that's actually kinda neat.
    As for good old Luca Blight, but Protagonist and somehow crazier Caim.........Apparently he and Angelus had Romantic feelings for each other by the end.
    Which is wild.
    So as for Nowe's parents.
    ...............Uh, so remember when Inuart put Furiae's corpse in the seed? Yeah uh........so his also fell into it.........and some of Legna's blood..........All 3 are his biological parents.
    He's technically Caim's nephew.

    • @jakefoley9539
      @jakefoley9539 Před 10 měsíci +1

      just wait till these content creators find out about Nero

    • @KOTEBANAROT
      @KOTEBANAROT Před 10 měsíci +3

      Some points on verdelet, while a lot of these pact comments were made tongue in cheek, what verd actually regrets is the fact that he has no friends because after he lost his good looks, he had to take up a job of a priest, forever chained to his solitude. He makes remarks about being envious of caims connection with angelus, even saying that his pact partner was never close to him even before he turned to stone. He also repeatedly wanted to make friends with furiae as he felt they had similar struggles but was rebuffed by her. He does feel kinship with her and feels very badly about her situation to the point of crying.
      In the Drakengard judgement manga, written by the cowriter of drak and nier (she actually wrote a lot more stuff than YT ever did, he was only responsible for the core ideas and Leonard's character and plotline) (no, shes not jun eishima either), verd is given more dimension. He was pre-pact in the manga, still had hair, and was a priest, and he was in a weird sort of relationship with the goddess that came before furiae. The goddess indulged in relationships with men as she felt the world owed it to her because shes sacrificing her life for it. She made attempts to bed verdelet as well and was repeatedly rejected by him, except for when she was about to die. She asked him to hold her (echoing furiaes words in drak1, no, its not censorship they both use the word "hold"), and apparently they end up doing it. I love that story because its so twofold - verd tries hard to be the priest people require, includng rejection of the thing he loves most, and in his falling to goddess' request he also falls from grace; on the other hand, its a request of a dying woman he does care about and he wants to give her some comfort. She dies smiling and he sets off to brand a new goddess (furiae)

    • @GPhipps
      @GPhipps Před 5 měsíci

      As for why Caim's pact price is what it is, the running theory I usually see and that I read was mentioned by the writers (can't confirm that myself), is that he loses the main means of expressing himself as a person. All he can do is act and, without the ability to hold a conversation with non pact partners, he's effectively trapped in his habitual murder. Considering his moments of humanity often get (understandably) glossed over by characters and audience alike in favour of discussing his bloodlust, it's a fitting price.
      In the novelisation, he's instead explicitly into his sister Furiae, but being unable to express this verbally when he learns her feelings, she interprets it as denial and kills herself, thereby making it rather severe, unlike what Angelus thought. It's a novel only element, but it's a solid reason for his pact price being what it is. It does gel nicely with how the price ultimately damages his interactions with Manah, since he somewhat mellows out with her, but, being unable to express it still looks like he's out to make her miserable, leading to her tricking him and stabbing him in the eye. Gives the idea that a pact price can be something that would have only shown value at a later point.

    • @qwefg3
      @qwefg3 Před 2 měsíci

      Hanch with her loss of charm meant that while she looks normal ... Most normal people are unable to find her attractive.
      Think of it as an ugly curse as everyone else is unable to find her attractive.
      In much the same way how losing 'time' still allows someone to grow and change even if they are no longer unable to physically change or grow literally older with the benefits and cons of not being a child.
      Pacts are crazy like that.

  • @GiubileiFernando
    @GiubileiFernando Před 10 měsíci +57

    I literally just found your channel because of the Drakengard 1 video and you uploaded a Drakengard 2 video by the time I finished watching 😂

    • @YourFavoriteSon1
      @YourFavoriteSon1  Před 10 měsíci +8

      Good timing

    • @julinofooly
      @julinofooly Před 10 měsíci

      He’s so consistently good at that 😂 happened to me when I watched yakuza 0 then the next one came out!

    • @Alpheus_09C
      @Alpheus_09C Před 10 měsíci

      Lmao, I'm the exact same. It's thanks to him I'm buying both nier games

    • @oyxnova4519
      @oyxnova4519 Před 10 měsíci

      Same here too lol

    • @iamthehobo
      @iamthehobo Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah, our son has a really impressive output. You should have seen him beating and reviewing a Yakuza game a week for like 3 months.

  • @Antimakker
    @Antimakker Před 10 měsíci +5

    Not gonna lie... My guy you are the best video essayist when it comes to games, really enjoying your videos.

  • @sakuracila
    @sakuracila Před 10 měsíci

    i've watched both of your drakengard videos so far, big fan of these! really excited to see a drakengard 3 review as well, it's my favorite of them all

  • @ktktktktktktkt
    @ktktktktktktkt Před 10 měsíci +5

    I had avoided content related to Drakengard 2 since I was under the impression it wasn't canon. Although it isn't quite a Yoko Taro story, it was still interesting.

  • @Speznas96
    @Speznas96 Před 10 měsíci +18

    I get why people enjoyed Drakengard 1 and 3 but honestly the music in Drakengard 2 was something else. I really enjoyed listening to those tracks back then because they did fit into the dungeons and scenes perfectly. And tbh i liked the story unfolding and the romance between Nowe and Manah didnt feel forced at all. It just so happened over time.

  • @zekecontreras77
    @zekecontreras77 Před 10 měsíci

    Every little detail and animation was on point and hilarious! Way to go Speedoru!

  • @martinnolhaf3151
    @martinnolhaf3151 Před 10 měsíci

    Heyhey, another Video to watch while at Work. Thanks Son for the hard Work that makes mine bearable!

  • @KajorArtStudios
    @KajorArtStudios Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hey there, son. I'm really enjoying the series so far. You're doing a great job. Me and my girlfriend actually started watching this series together and we're really enjoying it. Can't wait to see your video on Drakengard 3. Keep up the good work.

  • @0ctopusComp1etely
    @0ctopusComp1etely Před 10 měsíci +7

    High Five for the "2nd Ending, Best Ending" Bros.
    It's still pretty jank, but I feel the world still being at war and reality shifting towards new territory is much more interesting than the alternatives. Plus it lets me imagine an entire culture of people forming pacts with dragons to fight in epic battles against automatons and potentially giant stone babies, and that just pleases the inner 12 year old in me to no end. Cool stuff can just be cool sometimes.
    I doubt Drakengard 2 is ever going to get its own sequel (justifiably), but if it does, I hope the developers use the 2nd ending.

  • @jamesabernethy7896
    @jamesabernethy7896 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I've fallen behind with between being busy and having a few of the people I follow releasing a large number of long videos. I will watch this later but your videos never disappoint, regardless to whether I have played the game or not. Proud of you son.

    • @impoopnrightnow906
      @impoopnrightnow906 Před 10 měsíci

      Long critique videos? Any suggestions? I'm always looking for nerdy long form game critiques.

    • @jamesabernethy7896
      @jamesabernethy7896 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@impoopnrightnow906 Not all of the ones I was talking about were about video games but here are the ones I follow. No particular order. They have a variety of styles too.
      Noach-Caldwell Gervais
      Joseph Anderson
      NeverKnowsBest
      IFinishedavideogame
      Thegamingmuse
      GmanLives
      Upisnotjump
      AvalancheReviews
      Recevick
      Nick930
      Luke Stephens
      GVMERS
      LazerzZ
      Cvit
      RagnarRox

  • @ZephyrFate
    @ZephyrFate Před 10 měsíci +2

    “Exhausted on the holy land” is still one of the all time great videogame tracks.

  • @Comkill117
    @Comkill117 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I love how the instant the watchers are back Manah immediately gets possessed again.

  • @KageNoTenshi
    @KageNoTenshi Před 10 měsíci +3

    if i remember there was quite a bit of detail added each different times you replay, it shows viewpoints from other characters that you didn't know from the first play

  • @SageofStars
    @SageofStars Před 10 měsíci +17

    I always get annoyed when people call Nowe an idiot. Because he's not. He is, in fact, a genius in many ways. Raise from birth by Legna, he was found at 6-10 years old(It is very unclear specifically when) by the Knights, and then had to be taught human language, culture, and norms, and then took up sword training.
    In at most 12 years, this guy learned not only everything an adult is expected to know about fighting in, if not the history and oddities of his world, but also became a master swordsman to the point where he can fight men twice to three times his age with ease, and in larger numbers. Some of that is his nature, but not all of it, they comment on his skill with a blade a few times.
    So no, he's not an idiot. Worse yet, like Ethan Winters of Resident Evil or Yuito Sumerugi of Scarlet Nexus he's ignorant of some things because people deliberately withhold information from him...plus he DOES tell Eris that jerkwad poisoned him, once he's got the poison itself out of his system. While he's stumbling around, barely conscious, and reeling from what he heard, he's not really in a state to explain anything to anyone.

    • @GPhipps
      @GPhipps Před 5 měsíci +3

      He makes generally sound decisions with the information he has. It's odd how he's ignorant of some things, but on ths other hand we don't really know how many people were aware of the human sacrifice stuff with the seals. Also, like you say, being raised by Oror fairly late in childhood for a relatively short time, it'd be hard to give him a comprehensive education on the world.
      The missable scene with Oror and what we know of him also highlights that he actively raised Nowe to think with his heart first and to help people. So Nowe's just acting like you'd expect anyone to with his upbringing.
      The main problem is probably that in the District of Hallowed Water he and Eris don't sit down and talk things out for longer like you'd expect old friends to do. It doesn't sit well, but other than that, he's just a nice person who makes reasonable decisions on limited information.
      He at least gets a solid send off in the novelisation, where, from what I gathered from garbled google translate and other people's comments, he decides to actively reform the knights with Seere's help and reflects on his experiences, and in the anniversary novella, apparently does a pretty phenomenal job as leader of the knights. I think the novelisation is more ending C and the novella is mkre ending A. Can't be sure though, but if so it means Nowe's undeniably extremely competent in at least two canonical timelines.

  • @viderevero1338
    @viderevero1338 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I was so hyped for this video. Really starting to get into that Yoko Taro rabbit hole (though this game doesnt have Yoko Taro's involvement)

  • @noahbenson9599
    @noahbenson9599 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Hello son, I greatly appreciate all the talks we have before bed. I look forward to hearing more from you.

  • @meowy2k
    @meowy2k Před 10 měsíci +6

    loving this series son!!

  • @FullOut
    @FullOut Před 10 měsíci

    New video! Love to see it!

  • @disappointedcustomer2072
    @disappointedcustomer2072 Před 10 měsíci +3

    DROP THE DAMN KINGCOBRA DOC!!

  • @Heretic_real
    @Heretic_real Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hyped for that drakengard 3 video!

  • @EpicurusStan
    @EpicurusStan Před 10 měsíci +1

    Yessss! I never got the chance to play this one, or the third. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on them.

  • @Lorendrawn
    @Lorendrawn Před 10 měsíci +8

    I loved this game, but only as a kid. It actually turned me on to the omegaforce likes. The world was fascinating.
    Now I wouldn't be patient enough to play through it

  • @francisco646
    @francisco646 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hey, Son, do you occasionally take requests? I know this isn't an older game, but I've been having a blast with a game called Astlibra Revision and I'd love to hear your take on it. It was made over a span of 15 years, and it has such a beautiful story and soundtrack! I had no idea what to expect going into it, and it continued to blow my mind every step of the way.
    Either way, keep up the awesome work. Always super fun to watch your content.

  • @deohere7647
    @deohere7647 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I rented this from a blockbuster when I was 14. I felt as if I was too old for it and wondered what happened to Drakengard.

  • @jenniferrannila1414
    @jenniferrannila1414 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Yeah Drakengard 2 had its improvements in the gameplay side of things, but making Taro a minor cutscenes editor was probably a mistake because his eccentric story telling process in the first game was what made that game as fascinating as it is. And replacing him with a yes man who just made the game have a generic fantasy story just made its flaws stick out more than Drakengard 1's did.

    • @Vanity0666
      @Vanity0666 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Idk I think it's really good still, it's just way more subtle about the themes it's trying to convey where Taro just puts it out there in your face and challenges you to enjoy it

    • @theoktonos
      @theoktonos Před 4 měsíci +1

      nobody "made" Taro do anything, he didn't want to be involved in the sequel so Cavia took it upon themselves

  • @eppinizer
    @eppinizer Před 10 měsíci +2

    Yay! Another Sunday morning brightened by your content. Thanks as always, Son.

  • @acetown2263
    @acetown2263 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I came for cobes and stayed for your actually pretty good breakdowns of video game lore.

  • @user-mg1pj2vt9l
    @user-mg1pj2vt9l Před 5 měsíci

    44:50 reminds me of the Yorha bunker

  • @KevinMCable
    @KevinMCable Před 10 měsíci +1

    A space tale that involves dragons... Im so glad he got to work on ff14 a little bit. Still my favorite alliance raid.

  • @carruthers2915
    @carruthers2915 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The "wierd blur" in cutscenes may be caused by the pcsx2 emulator. That ghosting effect you seen to have I've seen in other games I've emulated too.
    If you see that happen in a future emulation you should try looking up fixes in the settings.
    A common fix seems to be messing with the "manual hardware fixes" settings

  • @RictuSlayer
    @RictuSlayer Před 10 měsíci +1

    Never played 2 but did 1 and 3, I wonder if 1/3 are viewed different in retrospective now that we know Yoko Taro better thanks to Nier Automata. I remember working at gamestop from holiday 2010-13 and the only real memories I have of 2 is noting how rare I saw people trading copies in(probably due to low sales in the first place) and Nier was just always chilling in our preowned under $20 bin. Eventually when Automata became a hit I was shocked considering how little of the original Nier I remembered actually selling lol

  • @Letsplay1332
    @Letsplay1332 Před 10 měsíci

    Constantly hitting on series I'm looking back on, feeling lucky.

  • @Yuriel1981
    @Yuriel1981 Před 8 dny

    I feel like Drakengaard 2 is the the first failed Branch that Accord examines. Making it really only important in knowing what happens if the canon ending in Drakengaard doesnt take place at all.

  • @RazorBladezX
    @RazorBladezX Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hey son. Can’t wait to sit down to watch this video later today. Excited to see what you say !

  • @captainkaiju2273
    @captainkaiju2273 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Were you playing on an emulator? I never had the blurry cutscene issue on both physical copies I have like you seem to

    • @captainkaiju2273
      @captainkaiju2273 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yeah it has to be an emulation issue, cause checking my PS2 copies I don’t have the blurry cutscenes at all. Can’t really say it’s a fault of the game when that’s not the case

    • @jenniferrannila1414
      @jenniferrannila1414 Před 10 měsíci +1

      He did say he played on an emulator which makes sense because copies of the game on the PS2 are mega expensive.

  • @codman4372wx
    @codman4372wx Před měsícem

    Ive actually gotten all endings twice. At first i didnt actually care too much for it, but upon my second playthrough, its grown on me a bit

  • @Harakengard
    @Harakengard Před 10 měsíci +4

    I might be in the minority here but i actually prefer Drakengard 2 over the first one : don't get me wrong, Nowe is your very generic JRPG protagonist, it's not good looking to say the least. However, being a Muso fan, i really liked the gameplay : i felt the feedback was good and the weapons variety as well as the different characters made up for the repetitive aspect. I also really liked the soundtrack and why exposition heavy (which didn't bother me back then), i found the story to be really captivating.
    Now keep in mind, i played Drakengard 2 before the 1st game. But considering how much more interesting it looked, i was obsessed finding it... And i was massively disappointed. Not only the gameplay felt completely lifeless and boring (even as a muso fan i can't stress how boring the gameplay felt), i wasn't even fan of the writting : sure, it's tragic but why would i care? If it's just a succession of tragedy one after another, i will just stop myself from caring for the characters and thus caring for the events of the game's world. Both Niers would later do FAAAR better than both Drakengards 1 and 2 on that regard (among many others) : there's still tragedy but there are also lighter scenes to be sure you're not accustomed emotionally. While i sure respect Taro, i think Drakengard 1's writting is pretty overstimated (not that it makes Drakengard 2's writting something incredible in comparison).
    A few things about the second game that aren't mentionned here though : Legna is also the dragon who killed Caim's parents and Inuart's partener. Also, Nowe is more or less Caim's nephew (which could explains why Caim's tried to protect him).

  • @germjam1733
    @germjam1733 Před 10 měsíci +5

    only here for the Cobra documentary

  • @user-mg1pj2vt9l
    @user-mg1pj2vt9l Před 5 měsíci

    Its odd that yoko taro had no involvement but i can see some resemblance of some if the things of this game in others. Flying Nowe reminds me of the flight units.

  • @saltiney8578
    @saltiney8578 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The drakengard series would be excellent for a remake I loved the first game but the game with large scale viewing distance and other things modern day hardware can acheive would be cool to see.

  • @Wingman_T25
    @Wingman_T25 Před 10 měsíci +2

    (Nvm you already did I’m just stupid and didn’t look 😅)….I would honestly love to see you talk about Yakuza and Judgement. I’d love to hear your thoughts on how the series evolved and changed. Think it would be incredibly interesting. Keep up the great work! Love your channel

    • @Road_to_Dawn
      @Road_to_Dawn Před 10 měsíci

      I believe he actually already has done videos on most of them

    • @Wingman_T25
      @Wingman_T25 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Road_to_Dawn hold up for real? I must be trippin then 😂 lemme go look for I make a fool of myself

    • @Wingman_T25
      @Wingman_T25 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Road_to_Dawn shit. 😂

  • @Emmerlaus007
    @Emmerlaus007 Před 3 měsíci

    The orbs for special dragon powers dont appear if you destroy a target by locking on them and destroying them with autofire. You need to destroy them by attacking them directly. And, unpopular opinion, I actually loved Drakengard 2 a lot more than he first one.

  • @hundun5604
    @hundun5604 Před 15 dny

    29:59 small correction; Gnomes, not goblins.

  • @YEETUSDAFEETUS
    @YEETUSDAFEETUS Před 10 měsíci

    watched the first last night then this happens you've made your old man proud son

  • @user-mg1pj2vt9l
    @user-mg1pj2vt9l Před 5 měsíci

    This game is underrated, the last plot twist with Legma kind of broke my heart. I think people just don't like it because its not made by Yoko Taro

  • @IMPOSING-NOOB2233
    @IMPOSING-NOOB2233 Před 10 měsíci +3

    release the documentary!!!!!

  • @theeagleswill2928
    @theeagleswill2928 Před 10 měsíci

    I cant wait to spend lets say 6hrs watching the full retrospective of all the games in the entire series drakenguard 1,2,3 nier and neir automaton with all supplental media lezzzz gooooo

  • @GeaForce
    @GeaForce Před 10 měsíci

    I like that Urik guy... He reminds me of Leonard for some reason

  • @VoltitanDev
    @VoltitanDev Před 2 měsíci

    No wonder DrakenGuard 2 felt so different it's under new management and executive meddling. What i mever understand about executives sometimes is that if a game is popular enough to get a sequel why change the thing that made it unique, the ground gameplay i would understand but the dark tone is part of its identity.

  • @schribbler1592
    @schribbler1592 Před 5 měsíci

    This was a PS2 game I got with my console at Christmas many years back. I admit it has its issues, but my god was it content full. So much you could unlock and do for that era, and on a console.
    I agree that Drakengard 1 was much better in terms of story, but this one will always hold a special place in my heart.
    Editt: never tried 3. The PS2 was my last Sony Console. If anyone has some hints to where I might acquire the third game, I would be grateful.

  • @TheT3rr0rMask
    @TheT3rr0rMask Před 10 měsíci +3

    Square Enix wanting to dump the heavy themes just baffles me. If someone didn't buy the first one for that reason would they buy the sequel anyway? Still received an M rating in the US too so partially pointless. Biggest of all (idk if its recognition was different back then, so forgive me if I'm wrong) the original's themes WERE what gave it life and an audience. This kinda direction is what keeps assured buyers away and you can't bet newcomers will be down all of a sudden. Goofballs sitting in chairs "know how to sell video games".

  • @k92ful
    @k92ful Před 10 měsíci

    Tnx mate

  • @FPoP1911
    @FPoP1911 Před 10 měsíci

    The only sonshine I appreciate these days.

  • @spiteu9272
    @spiteu9272 Před 10 měsíci

    Solid work, Son.
    TMDWU

  • @Drizznaut
    @Drizznaut Před 10 měsíci +1

    oh that's why.

  • @azk9218
    @azk9218 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Thanks!
    Played through Drakengard, Nier Replicant and Nier Automata, on my way through Branch C in Drakengard 3. But I thought that I don't have guts to play Drakengard 2, the first one was cool because of Yoko Taro's charm in it. Still, I'm curious how they played the second game.
    Now I know who's Eris (Eris Spear in Drakengard 3) and from where Manah's stuff originate as DoD3 DLC
    EDIT: halfway through video I realised I might actually want to play it, so stopped watching :D

  • @ThisIsTheTowne
    @ThisIsTheTowne Před 10 měsíci +1

    Ffxvi has me. But I'll watch this. Your comprehensive look is always thorough and generously fair to games without shying away from what doesn't work mechanical and/or personally. Just good stuff

  • @bradsheaks4811
    @bradsheaks4811 Před 2 měsíci

    This series desperately needs a remake/reboot

  • @yucatansuckaman5726
    @yucatansuckaman5726 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Whens the cobra vid coming out?

  • @KoalaMarch77
    @KoalaMarch77 Před 10 měsíci

    There is NOWE you won't make a video about Drakengard 3, right?

  • @calemr
    @calemr Před 10 měsíci +1

    The comments on Nowe being a generic hero who does as he's told Does seem a recurring theme. And, to add to that, it seems to usually end badly. And then, by the end, he rejects Legna's orders, and that's when he's able to gain power and do something Actually heroic.
    Is this intentional? I dunno. Maybe?

  • @j11mz16
    @j11mz16 Před 10 měsíci

    i got this when i was like 10, i had no idea what was going on

  • @a1uptactics358
    @a1uptactics358 Před 10 měsíci

    When’s the cobra doc coming?

  • @ricardomiles2957
    @ricardomiles2957 Před 10 měsíci

    i dropped the game in that tower, it was too hard for me. holy i was nearly finishing that game

  • @FerLopez5
    @FerLopez5 Před 10 měsíci

    I remember playing this when it came out, I don't have fond memories of it, the gameplay is very repetitious, restrictive and after the third level or so you are just so fed up, added that with a sickness i had at the time and things not gowing my way in the past I can't say I miss it, except for the music, also whenever i hear people saying they want to reach a "wider audience" I want to throw up, you know it ia bad thing is on the way when studios start to meddle with the artistic vision

  • @BurghezulDjentilom
    @BurghezulDjentilom Před 10 měsíci +3

    first ! thanks son for weathering this game, if only it weren't named drakengard it would have been seen better, but not by much

    • @YourFavoriteSon1
      @YourFavoriteSon1  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Wasn't great haha

    • @BurghezulDjentilom
      @BurghezulDjentilom Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@YourFavoriteSon1 well, I hope the frame rate gods bless you for D3 lol
      btw are you doing the original replicant or the remake ? I think it would be interesting to cover both in a way as to highlight the better gameplay for the remake but the (in my opinion) tighter soundtrack for the original, things like that.
      Keep it up son, proud of you !

  • @jaydab3775
    @jaydab3775 Před 9 dny

    Heya. New here and wondering why you always say bye dad?

  • @GiubileiFernando
    @GiubileiFernando Před 10 měsíci

    I have a theory that the "Gods" are an evolution of the leftover beings from Nier Automata, the ones that shot out in the Ark. Even if this game is in a different timeline, it says that Dragons created humans "from the Gods" which could mean that the Gods either are humans or, more likely, shaped themselves in the image of humans like Machines and Androids do. In this way the whole franchise is a cycle were humans are created in the image of gods and they themselves inspire other being into elevating them to the status of those gods in the first place.
    The logic virus transforms into the Red Eye disease, too.
    It's not exactly a time-loop, more like a neverending chain of alternate timelines infecting each other and repeating the same basic events. The Ark is clearly related to the Cathedral City that changed the world of Midgard and brought magic and monsters to that version of Earth.

  • @jonbigcawk
    @jonbigcawk Před 10 měsíci

    I love you son, you make me proud

  • @alexrod8305
    @alexrod8305 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I'm proud of you son.
    You know your stuff

  • @Buzz3092
    @Buzz3092 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I take a little psychic damage time I hear C-eye-m, but hearing Caim pronounced correctly right after was a fucking critical hit. I’m a nonbeliever, but I’m still praying we don’t hear the story of Zeh-ro/Russ in the next retrospective.
    I joke, but I love the retrospectives. It’s just that mispronouncing the name of a major character from multiple games with voice acting feels weird. Like you’re either trying to bait comments like this or you just play through the game on mute and don’t listen to your own video after editing. The content is too high quality for me to believe it’s the latter, but the bait is such a big distraction.

  • @YourFavoriteSon1
    @YourFavoriteSon1  Před 10 měsíci +5

    How do you feel about Drakengard 2 Dad? 🐲

    • @thomasstone3480
      @thomasstone3480 Před 10 měsíci

      seems like kinda a bummer

    • @TheDiscoGenre
      @TheDiscoGenre Před 10 měsíci

      Mediocre as hell with some good ideas (Brother Nier is basically Nowe done correctly)

  • @toawing
    @toawing Před 16 dny

    I think if ending B was the default, with say 2 more (to fit this games number) that are increasingly bleak would of worked better.
    To fit standard jpg conventions the second could of had Manah survive while Eris died, Nowe uses the bone casket to save Manah with the help of the gods who seem to have a fondness for her. Ending with a Manah in a red dress linking back to her younger self who seems to of been reverted back to her more pliable self, Nowe who now has prominent red eyes and a great feeling that we have messed up. Multiple call backs to the original including the grotesques
    I'm not sure what the third would have exactly, it would feel right to have Nowe, Eris and Manah overcome their issues to do the right thing but all having to die for that to happen. Perhaps have after their deaths Legna step up for the final boss, not for the dragons but to honor Nowe. The theme of a father son bond being used here in a very dark, drakengard way. Oh and to symbolise this maybe have Legna take a new form, based somewhat on Angelus's chaos form

  • @Beavernator
    @Beavernator Před 10 měsíci

    Looking forward to Drakengard 3 and the battle with framerate...
    👁👄👁

  • @VoltitanDev
    @VoltitanDev Před 2 měsíci

    Drakenguard 2 is the diet coke Drakenguard

  • @theedwardian
    @theedwardian Před 5 měsíci

    The title "drag-on dragoon" sounds like a self-deprecating joke because of how tedious the game can be.

  • @vibe1337
    @vibe1337 Před 10 měsíci

  • @NebLleb
    @NebLleb Před 10 měsíci +3

    Drakengard 2 is a bit like another sequel to a cult classic game from the 2000s, BloodRayne 2, which I've actually played: They change certain things (writing for one, gameplay for the other) for the worse, but improve on major faults from their predecessors (gameplay for Drakengard 2, plot and writing for BloodRayne 2). I'll freely admit that of the two Drakengard sequels, THIS is the one I'll play as the gameplay is meant to be a massive improvement and the story is still meant to be good, though not as great as 1's.
    Considering Drakengard 3 bought back the jank and apparently featured a DREADFUL, needlessly profane, extremely horny localisation that killed the series dead in its tracks and even somehow managed to derail the protagonist Zero in the same game she made her debut (from what I've been told, she was meant to be a nihilist neutral who showed little emotion except to her dragon partner and those close to her out to rid herself of a most peculiar Watcher plague in the original Japanese script, the dub derailed her into an annoying villain protagonist who yells swear words constantly), I think I'll take my chances with the sequel that focused on the gameplay rather than the tone and plot just this once.

    • @jakefoley9539
      @jakefoley9539 Před 10 měsíci +5

      Even the tone and plot of 2 are closer to the first game. 3 legitimately feels like its from a different series, and I say that as someone who kinda likes 3.

    • @TheDiscoGenre
      @TheDiscoGenre Před 10 měsíci +1

      tfw this ramble reminds me that 2B suffers similar localization issues to Zero, but they aren't as damaging/idiotic. Also doesn't help 2B is a fake protag/coomer bait.

    • @thatitalianlameguy2235
      @thatitalianlameguy2235 Před 8 měsíci

      it's supposed to be like that cry about it dk3 is cool

  • @bimoprasetyo6862
    @bimoprasetyo6862 Před 10 měsíci +2

    A DRAKENGARD 2 content,
    Thank You 🎉
    Most of the Nier & Drakengard Fans have a Strong Dislike for this Entry and i Doubt Yoko Taro would even bring up this Game anytime soon because of the
    "Conflicting Timeline" with the Nier Franchise,
    But..
    Compared to the Entirely Tragic Lore of Nier,
    Having an Actual Happy Timeline,
    Feels Bittersweet
    even thou it Most Likely
    will be Forgotten.
    But Hey...
    It was Nice While it Last.

  • @AidenAlias
    @AidenAlias Před 9 měsíci

    Man they really did make this one a typical rpg story.
    Maybe layering so much controversy all in the first game was a bit excessive but this is to much of a course correction

  • @MrPAPA-sp7gt
    @MrPAPA-sp7gt Před 10 měsíci +3

    Good job, son.

  • @Salciin
    @Salciin Před 10 měsíci +1

    I think the air combat had a big big downgrade in Drakengard 2. Angelus had some weight to her, which felt great in the sense, that she is a big and powerful dragon. Legna however feels like a literal paper airplane to me.

  • @R3prieve
    @R3prieve Před 3 měsíci

    Not a bad game all in all. Overhated nowadays.

  • @M3plusYOU
    @M3plusYOU Před 10 měsíci

    Cobra video

  • @fumomofumosarum5893
    @fumomofumosarum5893 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I did not like this game.
    I found it especially bad that they redconned Caim to be a psychopath... : /
    While the new protag was just super generic anime boy....

    • @YourFavoriteSon1
      @YourFavoriteSon1  Před 10 měsíci

      It's definitely not great

    • @captainkaiju2273
      @captainkaiju2273 Před 10 měsíci +7

      But they literally characterized Caim as bloodthirsty in the first game? He only had a turnaround because of his attachment to Angelus.
      So of course he became more unhinged when the one thing left that he cared about was going mad from the Seal, and affecting him as well.

    • @KOTEBANAROT
      @KOTEBANAROT Před 10 měsíci +2

      How is caim a psychopath? He is as ruthless as he is in the first game. He only kills to save angelus.

  • @novustalks7525
    @novustalks7525 Před 9 měsíci

    The story makes no sense in this one and they made it generic which is the exact thing yoko taro wanted to avoid

  • @banks3388
    @banks3388 Před 10 měsíci

    This game isn't canon...