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So, you've probably seen those comments when you scroll down each week. People that don’t understand why we are so thrilled to see the investment into space technology like huge rockets and complex moon missions. Maybe you’ve even thought to yourself, “Why is SpaceX Starship and NASA's Investments in Artemis so Critical?” or "Why are we spending all this money on moon missions when there are so many problems here on Earth?" It's a fair question and I don’t think anyone can argue that there are plenty of great ways to spend money fixing the issues right here. Well my friends, there is a bunch of technologies being developed right now by SpaceX and NASA that we believe will not only inspire the world, but provide real useful technology and funding to do exactly that. To make the world better right here for us all. More recently, there have been astounding insights into what is coming and I think you might be surprised.
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Money spend on rockets is not send to space, is paid to engineers, factories and similar, so it is put in progress of technology, and people which can work for others projects.
I think too many people forgetting that money are not send to space.
Exactly, most of the money is spent on Earth, in jobs, those jobs pay taxes, and those workers buy goods and services, and they generate taxes. So, much of the money is actually an investment, not a cost.
That's obvious. But what does go to space is the product of their work. From the miners digging up the aluminum to the engineers and scientists designing the spacecraft, lots of people are spending loads of time to create something that goes to space. And through taxes a little bit of everyone else's time and work goes towards enabling that.
We could, instead, be putting that time, those working hours, towards, for example, building out more wind turbines.
@@plainText384 and build maybe 1% more, do you even know how many people work in each industry? That something is flashy, don't mean is big.
@m_sedziwoj the Artemis program will cost about 93 billion dollars from 2012 to 2025.
For reference, Biden's bipartisan infrastructure law (Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act) dedicated about 73 billion dollars in additional funding towards upgrading power infrastructure. These aren't insignificant sums of tax dollars.
@@plainText384 - People forget that every single cent spent on the Apollo Moon missions, paid for itself 100 times over, both in monetary terms, and in quality of life improvements, in less than 20 years. By now, that number is probably 1000 times over. Going to Mars, and returning to the Moon, will do the exact same thing again.
We spend more money (by a factor of about 10) fighting wars than developing space. Many nations went bankrupt through war expenditures, but none ever went bankrupt through space development expenditures. Still, most people say that space is a waste of money.
The vast majority of money spent on space development was actually just another form of "war expenditures." When the military competition was decided, funding was seriously cut.
The sad part is that all the listed benefits in this video are easily 100x more for war. Nearly everything we have, all the way back to that first thrown rock, was to fight. Other uses came later.
The argument that space exploration is a good way to fuel product development is... contestable on a number of fronts. Far better to just say that we fund space exploration because enough people want to, and we live in a democracy.
@@4Fixerdave”it’s a democracy and people want it.” lmao
@@4Fixerdave I'd rather live in the stone age than fight more wars though.
I am so done with all this, entirely and absolutely, unjustified and utterly pointless fighting. Reading Ukrainians and Russians having talks online about how neither want these conflicts, or Iranians and Israelis talking about how indifferent they really are toward one another, prove that these wars are just the pet projects of egotistical maniacal men of power.
@@Kloppin4H0rses Agreed on the last part, but you'll have to go back a lot farther than the stone age to predate war. Even chimps throw rocks at each other. In fact, the archaeological evidence says that 25% of each generation of chimps and early hunter-gatherer humans end up killed by others of their own species. Mostly patrols killing individuals in boarder areas. But yeah, 25%. That's why we started making our rocks and sticks sharper.
Oh, last century that death rate went down to 6%, and that includes both world wars. This century, it stands a reasonable chance of being a lot less. It's a weird bit of history but it seems the more lethal we make our weapons the less of us die from them, so far. Percentage-wise anyway.
no, most people do not say that. only a few loud mouthbreathers
Here I was expecting a normal weekly update, but instead was smacked with one of the best monologues on pushing the boundaries I've ever heard. Well done Marcus.
Thank you! Nice to make something a bit different.
If all the money currently spent on space exploration were spent on Earth to make it a better place, it would be drop in the ocean, no one would notice the difference. Spending the money on space may provide a new ways, innovation, to help humanity here on earth in ways we cannot imagine today. Satellite based weather prediction has probably saved substantial numbers of lives alone!
The waste is in bureaucracy and and the unfeathered for profit medical system with insurance.
Don’t mistake NASA self-serving PR propaganda, wishful thinking, or populist hype for objective analysis, confusing things Nasa USED that were developed by private enterprise or academia: For example, NASA didn't invent Tang, Velcro, ball point pens, transistors, Integrated Circuits, Teflon, GPS, computers, microchips, cell phones, carbon fiber, the internet, solar cells, fuel cells, pintel rocket engines…..or much of anything else. Giving NASA credit for the technology it uses/touts is like giving a rooster credit for sunrise.
Artemis cost about 93 billion from 2012 - 2025. That's not an insignificant amount. Sure, the US spends about 10x that on the military EACH YEAR, so it's not like Artemis is the number 1 drain on the national wallet, but 100 billion dollars is still a LOT of money. 100 billion dollars isn't enough to fix all our problems, but if the Artemis budget was allocated to something else, you'd definitely notice.
@@plainText384If Artemis funding stopped I would notice the war escalating in Ukraine, while Americans deal with all the economic issues at home like open borders. No benefit
@@plainText384 93 billion out of a federal budget of 69,082 billion in the same period. 0.13%. I don't know about you, but in my world 0.1% is an insignificant amount.
Important to note: People tend to love debunking the list of stuff invented for space programs. Many of those technologies did exist before the space program used them, it's true. But they weren't ready for mass deployment or mass adoption before they got the attention and funding that came with being used by NASA.
And other companies realizing that if NASA could use it to "send those heroes into space" (as the thinking went in the 60s) then it would be good to look at for their company too.
Sadly, NASA has a long history of putting the lives/wellbeing of astronauts in a far secondary position to cost cutting to maintain profits.
NASA doesn't have profits.
@@otakumagnet8106 They also have a long history of spending tons of money and being years late, but launching relatively safe vehicles. SpaceX now does it even safer for a fraction of the cost and time.
@@davebenhart4611 seriously. what a dumb comment. NASA is not a for-profit company, that's the mind of a simple capitalist and whats wrong with this country
"Why spend money on sending people to the moon."
I know a ton of people, I wish they were on the moon.
😂👍
moon is not far enough; orbit around saturn would be better
Magellan's boat and crew where not free, so glad they did not sit at home and instead mapped a path to sail around the world. Without doubt many said that knowledge was useless and it was a stupid thing to do when they set sail.
Magellan was looking for riches, those who proceeded him like De Gama were looking for sea routes to Asia for spices, which also led to colonialism and empires. In other words they were looking for a direct return for the capital invested.
@@billygoat520 no different to space explorers, they are utilising the resources so they can fund future endevours.
The fact is that there have always been problems we need to solve and there always will be, regardless of any government or private sector spending.
NERVA was developed in the 1960s, intended as nuclear rocket tugs and propulsion for an Apollo follow on program for a manned mission to Mars. Cancelled in the 1970s.
Thank you Richard Nixon and the lefties in Congress. Nixon was a miser and the "spend the money on Earth" people were idealistic, deluded, short sighted and had no concept of the difference between giving the poor a fish to eat and developing fishing pole technology and teaching them to fish.
its was started in the 1950's get your facts correct...Jesus...
Nasa didn't cancel this due to budget... it was due to the fact the math says , NO. ITS NOT A VIABLE WAY TO SEND A BASIC COLONY TO MARS. THATS THE FACT! BUT THERE IS A VIABLE Way... thank. Anymore scientist 😌
The financial black hole is Boeing, Starliner, and SLS. SpaceX is changing THAT.
😂😂😂 it's literally the opposite of that fella.
Totally agree.
Spacex will never get to the moon unfortunately. If u look at the mission architecture, you would know.
@@mervstash3692Your not seriously defending Boing’s Starliner and the SLS Program, are you? Both programs are way to expensive for what they deliver as well as Starliner being completely abundant due to Dragon. In regards of SLS just watch Everyday Astronauts Video.
@@romeogarbett4047redundant*
Excellent presentation! I was 10 when Apollo 11 landed on the moon and grew up to work a number of years at Rocket Research (as it was known when I started working there). I was hands on with the development of EHT or electrical heated thrusters. I also had the unique experience working at Kennedy Space Center loading propellant on a NASA space satellite which felt like a childhood dream come true. I am following the rapid developments in space related technology with great interest, and your channel is much appreciated! Still have a ways to go to catch up with 2001 A Space Odyssey, another childhood inspiration.....
Imagine where we would be if Apollo had been allowed to continue on to Mars.
"Where we'd be"
Mars, probably
We’d be on Mars I reckon.
Apollo couldn't get to Mars and back with humans on board, not enough air, water, food, etc. Apollo was a moon mission only and it was only a 'sling-shot' with just enough fuel to get out of earth orbit temporarily and make a loop to moon orbit and back. I worked as an Electronic Engineer servicing programmable aerospace test equipment that tested the Apollo capsule when it was being built by North American Aviation in Downy, CA back in 1960's.
It could have advanced and evolve into a more advanced program that could reach Mars. That was the plan all along until funding was cut.
@@adamadamadamadam Thats the point I was trying to make. Thank you sir.
The problems on this Earth is not a lack of money, there's plenty of it, its the way it is spent.
US are giving away another 60 billion to (proven) neo nazis to fight a lost war just so the senate members can make cash through multi billion military contracts. To put it in perspective.. you could make like 700 Starship rockets for that money.
All lot of people seem to not grasp that just throwing money at a problem doesn't resolve the fundamental problem. A lot of world issues are cultural. So you could provide a home for all the homeless people great homelessness solved but in reality you haven't solved the issue of why they was homeless in the first place just giving them a home doesn't fix the problem. Some might be terrible at managing finances, some might be addict etc etc.
And that we keep going to war with each other and need people to work hard to pay taxes to keep wars funded. We're all basically working to ensure we can afford to wipe each other out! Sad but true 🥲
60 billion send to fans of the number 88.. thats nearly 700 starship rockets.
@@Defort-jd8xe Shhh! You're not allowed to criticise the politicians... They know better than you. Obviously.
I will say what a lot of people don't think about is the possibilities of industry. Moving some of the very polluting industries such as concrete or even metal refining to space with the use of asteroids will have a high up front cost, but as time goes on it will become cheaper and cheaper when we don't need to bring things up from the surface. 90% of the fuel is for just getting out of earth's gravity. Imagine how far things could go if we had minimal shuttles that only run in orbit. That is the future they're working on. Not just a waste of money, but a way to rid our only home of pollution and industries that actively harm our ecosystem and human health. I just hope that our future will be one where we can clean up our planet.
For me, the biggest reason for expanding into space is simple... we wilfully ignore the fact that we are massively vulnerable while we exist on one blue marble. One single piece of rock from space can end it all. As far as we know we are the only conciousness in the entire universe. We have a responsibility to ensure the future of this remarkable phenomenon.
Being a materials engineer by trade, I've always been of the belief that human technological progress has always been limited by our mastery. or lack thereof, of materials required to do the job. We have a great future ahead of us if we would stop fighting each other.
Marcus, I've been enjoying your videos for a few years now and have never commented. This one, my friend, had me jumping for my keyboard... I believe you've hit the ball out of the ballpark! Magnificent!! 👍🏼
One important reason that you didn't mention Marcus: Exploration is what we do -it's deeply woven into our DNA. We left the caves, and wondered what was in the next valley, what was beyond those distant hills. We came to deserts and crossed them. Followed the coastline to see where it would take us. We sailed the oceans and took to the air. Climbed the mountains, ventured to the bottom of the seas, and left footprints in moondust. Humans are explorers at heart, and space is what's next.
💀💀💀 humanity has populated every single corner of the globe
There is no place in this world untouched by humans be it now or back then
Simple to think it's either or. SpaceX exists from a certain passion, not realistic to expect that particular drive is transferable to any other.
Toss out the likes of SpaceX and what have you gained exactly? That *wealth was created* for THAT purpose, not a zero sum game.
The world long ago depends on nearby space access, it's how the neighsayers communicate. lol.
SpaceX is freeing up 90% of the wealth required to get there.
100 %
I love replies where people give credence to the passion of discovery from carbon based bipedal chemical reactions that formed 3.8 billion years ago by random chance and unguided natural processes as a product of complex chemistry, then mention DNA, an information system, which also is a product of random chance, then get mad if you mention intelligent design and suggest design is all an illusion. The mental midgetness and contraryness (my isms), of one’s worldview is absolutely fascinating. Good on you mate!
We are more than trilled 😛 Need too spend more money 💰🤑 At least all the new commercial space companies are doing this 🧐 Government’s fail unless they need to prove something that gets votes 🤪 Let’s go to the moon and beyond 🚀 Thank you Dr House 👽
Once again Marcus, brilliant. Enjoy your enthusiasm, enjoy your collaborations with other such as Scott Manley. Keep up the great work! Much love from Newcastle Australia. (Tassie rocks by the way!)
“3D printing structures using lunar soil.” All we need to do is get the printing equipment up there and provide power for them.
You totally nailed it, Marcus. Congratulations and greetings from Warsaw, Poland. BTW. should I say that this is what I'm thinking ever since I've heard of Mass Collonial Transporter.
Marcus - you remain maybe the best source of information about space technology on the web. This video, however, is sort of preaching to the choir. Am curious what motivated this topic considering your usual saturday content. Thank you for the awesome channel!
19:48 Marcus’ closing line ‘I hope you enjoy this video…’ really hit me hard this time. Why do we spend money on space exploration instead of spending it here making Earth a better place is well answered here. Basically it centres on the concept of sustainability. Civilisations rise and fall depending on its sustainability and it all comes down to the development of technology. Technology that has been stress tested to failure and built from there is the very basis of sustainability and a robust civilisation and the ultimate stress test is found in interstellar space. Man didn’t return to the moon for 50 years becaause it took that long to develop the technology based on just a brief excursion to the lunar surface to create sustainable life support systems!
Marvelous research and perspectives Marcus and Team. Thanks for grounding our dreams with significant possibilities as well as the reality of history to date.
Timely and well done!
You need to read Robert Heinlein's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"
Thank you for explaining to those who weren't aware, the great amount of scientific discoveries that space exploration has provided to *_ALL_* of humanity !!!
Super presentation Marcus, thanks ever so much! It's a topic those of us interested in space often get asked about and you've provided us there with a wealth of information to draw on!!
Fabulous video - the “why” is just as important as the “how”
He3 is actually one of the few elements that might be worth retrieving from the lunar surface and returning to Earth surface.
By the time helium 3 becomes useful we will be far better off getting it from Uranus. There's nothing on the moon worth bringing to earth. It is however far easier to get to geostationary orbit from, and beaming energy from there is surprisingly viable.
@@agsystems8220 Yeah, lunar aluminum, oxygen and titanium might be quite useful for orbital manufacturing but that also is at least 20 years away, probably realistically 30.
The amount of He3 on the moon is overblown by pop culture, and is in only trace amounts in the regolith - sure, it can be extracted, but you can just as easily get He3 out of fission. (And Tritium, which is easier to use for fusion anyway)
This video is a fantastic explanation for why everyone should be excited about the invention of space travel enabling technologies. Space travel is the reason that we have solar panels at the amazingly cheap cost point that they are at now!
Hey Marcus , love all your work covering the latest in spacex and other ventures, I truely enjoyed this Segway about future technology and potential uses on earth. Great work
Thanks for another great video! Love these deeper dives.
I think there's a direct correlation between life support in space and designing more efficient structures on Earth. If you can "close the loop" and recycle water in a space station, then the same technology could be used to recycle water in a building or even a city on Earth. Similarly, technologies that recycle air and heat in space can help teach us how to create more efficient sealed buildings on Earth that maintain their internal temperature without active heating or cooling. The result is a dramatically lowered environmental footprint as we use less water and power for things like air conditioning.
This is one of the best videos you have ever made. You really nailed the "why". It's really easy, and quite frankly lazy, for people to simply dismiss space travel and its importance. Thank you Marcus!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video Marcus. A bit refreshing from the usual launch pad development videos from SpaceX
In other words, a good “filler” video. 😏
Superb work Marcus, as always. A compelling summary & a useful cheat sheet or list of reminder prompts, to refer back to, whenever we are faced with associates or friends who challenge us to justify these commercial space passions & endeavours.
When Elons Falcon 9 mission to 520km with 5 Astronauts Altitude taught him that 3 days at that altitude gave them as high a radiation dose as 9months on the ISS at 370km and the Proton belt only gets really hot from 1500 to 20000 km Altitude, and Solar Energetic Proton Events, outside the Earth's Magnetosphere, are similar, meaning radiation doses would be similar to many thousands of years on the ISS, any chance of humans riding his or NASAs capsules to the moon or Mars ended.
A truly exciting future!!
Thanks for being so reliable. Literally planning my day by the second. I just sat down with a coffee i bought, and reloading CZcams shows ypur Video just on time ;)
It was actually a fairly quiet week in space news so I decided to double down and focus on finally getting this video we've been working on for ages finalised. You would be amazed how many people leave comments with a negative opinion about the investment in space research and exploration.
I read this comments myself regularly. Thanks for this video!
Thank you, Marcus, for this week's diversion into the reasons why we're exploring space and the widespread benefits of our need to "invent our way" thru the obstacles that stand in our way. Your posts are one of the highlights of my weekends!
Great video, BTW!! Love your enthusiasm !
If NASA were allowed to cancel SLS it would save Billions a year.
As soon as SpaceX has Starship flying regularly... SLS is obsolete.
Right On. SLS is a huge waste 🗑. ..Elon for President
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SLS is already obsolete and was from day one of the project.
The government space program has become ludacris...Artemis Fartemis...Earth view from space is beautiful, appearing serene and peaceful...and I'm from Mars...We'll screw it up 😎
Starship is never going fly regularly.
SpaceX needs a flame trench or lifted launch mount with the ground level being the trench. there needs to be a catch tower further from the propellant tanks and quick mover to the launch tower...maybe a rail car that can be moved under the rocket. Just my ho
did you know musk rejected the Army corps of engineers initial offer for a flame trench design? the stage 0 problems are his own fault.
Disagree with Yvonne: Coastal locations mean water table up to the surface. No flame trench. NASA bypassed that limits by lots of acreage l, lots of money, and only the beginnings of hostile-attitude environmental lobby. They made a huge ramp system,well above the water table. For musk: less money, MUCH less room, and an active hostile environment lobby.
Haha, A fun and informative Reporrt! Thx!
Cheers, Eric
Good stuff Troop Much Appreciated
I make the PICA heatshield material that is used for interplanetary re-entry vehicles (Osiris Rex, Dragonfly, basically every Mars lander in the last 20 years, etc). The NASA based projects at my company are ~5% of the total revenue on any given year. The only other customer we have is the Department of Defense in its various forms. Our primary product is reinforced carbon-carbon for the pointy and flame-y ends of very high powered missiles.
Yes, we spent billions on fancy NASA projects that seem like that don't solve any problems for the average human here on Earth. What people forget is that we spent TRILLIONS on weapons that, best case scenario, sit in a warehouse until we have to pay billions to decommission them decades later.
IMO, that's the only argument you need to justify the worthiness of these NASA projects, but this video highlights the cherry on top of spending money on this stuff, of which there are many.
The expression is science for science sake. Don't you want to know what the moon is made out of cheese?
i'm most excited about building ships in orbit.
I’m all about space too, but As long as corruption remains on all present humanity issues, nothing will change.
Thank you for the reminder of all the ways pushing boundaries forward causes changes for all.
@Marcus House Fantastic video. It's really important that an understanding of this is spread. Another thing that I often see in your comments is people shutting others down; often in a quite malicious way, because they shared a thought or opinion that contradicts the ideal plan for things. I think it could have a non negligible effect if you did another video in the same style and format as this, talking about the importance of respecting and discussing all opinions, no matter how much you might dislike them.
I really hope you see this comment and give it some thought.
Thanks. I love such comments that inspire future videos. Thanks also for taking the time.
The main fallacy for me is those who act like "terraforming Mars" is only a few years away, when we're struggling to maintain livable conditions here on the MOST OPTIMAL PLANET FOR LIFE. If we can't get things balanced out here, we have zero hope of doing it on a barren radiation-heavy desert planet like Mars.
Earth needs a "Lifeboat".🚣♂
Well, we actually do know a lot of ways we could terraform Earth, though. Geoengineering is a thing. We just absolutely refuse to even try to do it in case it goes wrong... since we kinda live here. The part where Mars is a big empty planet without anybody living there makes it pretty ideal for testing all those geoengineering ideas we're unwilling to try on Earth.
The main blocker to doing "terraforming" on Earth is not technical or industrial limitations, it's political. We have the technology to try, but not to do it without accidentally killing everyone or putting the ecosystem out of whack.
We probably will be way better at terraforming Mars than we are at terraforming Earth. It's way easier to fuck around with a planet you aren't currently living on.
Nuclear power in France has its drawbacks also: Quite a few were constructed near rivers for cooling water - which dried up so much in recent years that these reactors had to be shut down during summer (running at lower power not being possible unlike with gas or coal plants).
The inability to run nuclear power stations at lower power levels leads to other issues like France having too much energy during summer (where Germany profits from it, getting cheap electricity), only to not be enough during winter (where France has to buy renewable energy from its neighbors)...
I really liked your closing remarks about us humans working together on such projects worldwide - thinking about ISS being one of the only thing "the world" (well, the western world) talks to the Russians at the moment.
Thank you for this very inspirational video.
That map at minute 6 may give hopes to flat earthers... 😁
Hehe, except when they want to explain how cargo ships travel from China and Japan to the US west coast....
Lmao😂
lol and we still call it atmosphere :P
And we got Tang.
Worth it.
Wow what a video to produce. Must have taken ages to write the script and then to get all the video clips. Well done team Marcus.
Glad to have a deep dive content video. The news videos can get ordinary due to the repetitive nature of routine launches.
The grand reason for the space exploration efforts is the fact that it creates all facets of GOOD JOBS and careers! 👍
come on, that Tesla optimus robot is decades behind the competition, not even worth mentioning at this point.
The robot they just started working on a couple years ago vs a decade?
@@routybouty a couple of years ago yes. Honda, another car company, had a more advanced humanoid robot than Optimus in the 90s/00s. These guys are laying people off, they're not going to have as much money for blue sky R&D projects in the foreseeable future, it could be very slow going (much like Optimus if you've seen it walk).
I’ve noticed the “This changes everything” text on the thumbnail of several videos from different channels I watch. Usually I take it as a clickbait warning sign, but the content on this channel is always good. Is CZcams’s algorithm forcing the use of tactics like this?
Thanks Marcus for another fantastic video!
Fabulous
Hmmm .
Please study "The Limits to Growth", a document from 1972 based on research by a bunch of MIT nerds.
The premise is that (doh) unlimited growth on a finite planet is not sustainable... and the impacts (as we are starting to see) are rolling in now. As cool as it is, "Techno Cornucopianism" (like bases on the Moon and Mars) cannot mitigate that.
It is wise to appreciate how good things are today, because this will not end well.
Wow Marcus that was a graphic menagerie. One of the best! Thanks
Thank you, Marcus. The age-old chant of those who believe that "we" should not do X because we haven't yet figured out Y will always be with us, even though the premise of their contention is logically questionable--or even repressive ("we" is a word that is often used to suppress "me").
However, it is worth acknowledging that when human beings begin to settle off-world, they will be taking with them some of the good and the bad that currently prevails amongst humans here on Earth.
The response to that should not be "we should not go", but rather, "when we go, let us resolve to do better 'over there'". Of course, how "they" manage that will also depend on who funds those who "go" and how the off-world settlements will be governed.
One of the reasons why I liked Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars Trilogy so much was because he really made an effort to explore how humans will govern themselves off-world. And how that might affect us here on Earth.
Unfortunately, and fortunately the reason humans are the dominant species on this planet is because we are so successful competitive. As much as we want to supress that desire, it's deeply embedded within us. We constantly strive to keep that in check, but it follow us whether we go.
It may be a fair question but it is a stupid question. If it isn’t obvious to someone that advances in technology generates prosperity then they are clueless. Re space and SpaceX you need only be aware that internet connectivity is generally accepted as one of the most effective ways to move large volumes of people out of poverty to realise how starlink is stunning value for money. That alone justifies space spending let alone all the thousands of the other science and tech advances created by space programmes.
Despiser is a luddite
@@Despiser25so you are opposed to sending more aid to Ukraine, right? Or are you a hypocrite?
Well said Marcus 👍
A great informative video, thanks for all the information on space technology and how the research helps us on earth!!!
Science fiction is always fun. Seriously, there is a long way to go before we even get close to this vision.
True but nothing is achieved without vision.
Not always -- the *other* "science fiction" will likely kill us all first!
If you don't take that first step you never get anywhere.
I'm old enough I remember people laughing at the idea of home computers.
@@riparianlife97701
My co-workers laughed at my interest in computers. You know who they eventual were coming to for help with theirs when they had them first at work then at home?
One of our main problems is fighting over resources, space has infinite resources so that's one reason its worth doing.
Helium 3 mining on the moon that could be turned into energy and sent back to earth, there's another reason to invest.
We have enough ressources. Like communism did have enough ressources. We are using them wrong. Thats the main problem.
I'm getting For ALL Mankind flashbacks...
@@aq_ua ,Oh, don't worry, we will be waring in space its just human nature. Moon battles over territory are on the horizon.
It's not "human" nature. Animals also fight for territory or dominance.
@@denysvlasenko1865 Just because other animal do something it doesn't mean its not also in our nature. At the end of the day we all evolved side by side on the same planet, we also have a lot of the same DNA and ancestors so we're clearly going to have similar behaviours.
Thank you, I needed that.
I enjoyed this a bit of a different video than usual :) Hearing about new possible and present inventions is inspiring.
Best way to ensure constant, uninterrupted power generation on the moon is to set up orbiting solar collection arrays which transmit their power via microwaves to the colony habitats and facilities. It would serve as a good proof-of-concept for when we begin construction of humanity's first Dyson Swarm.
While it is true to say that space exploration has provided us with new materials and advancement in science, it does not necessarily follow that we needed to go to space to get these things.
These were things that industry would never have made. R&D cost money. But once they existed they were happy to find a market for them.
Integrated circuits were developed (not invented, but developed) in the early-mid '60's to save weight/space in ICBM's to compensate for much lower "throw weight" of American boosters vs Soviet counterparts. This work was super-expedited to create and maintain a credible threat. Without that incentive, IC's might have taken an additional decade or more to commercialize.
err just getting to stage of space mining alone is worth it omg :/ don't any of these nay says have any foresight to see what will happen in the future :/
Great video Marcus. Cost wise. NASAs budget is what, less than 1% of Americas budget. It really is a small amount. And as you pointed out, this goes to jobs and companies in America. As for people visiting Mars and the Moon, why not. What a thrill to do either, or both.
Ayyyyy! Thanks for the word of support for nuclear energy!
That "exploding" at 19:05 was brilliant!
There are no residents to complain about your strip mine, nuclear power reactor or what ever other thing you build on the moon !😊
For now
Whoop whoop Marcus in the house! SPACE NEWS UPDATES! 😁
Could be a gold mine if and when they start spacing mining
Thank you for doing a video about the advancements that have been made becasue of the accomplishments of aerospace engineering. We learn when we challenge ourselves and take on difficult goals. I was alive during the time of the Apollo missions and remember the same political rhetoric about the costs involved. But understanding all the benefits that that challenge brought to us makes me sure that the goals of creating a moon base, and going Mars will certainly solve many of the problems we face on our planet.
Fun fact, starship can't get to orbit empty 😂
Fun fact, starship has been in orbit.
To the good faith reader:
Starship IFT-3 did prove capable of getting to orbit. Its trajectory was designed to fall slightly short for obvious safety reasons.
Apparently the performance of IFT-3 was sufficient for "40-50" tons to orbit, so certainly not nothing. It could also do far more if launched on an expendable trajectory.
And also it was not fully fueled with no weight optimization and with raptor 2 if raptor 3 delivers its gaing to take ton to leo well over 100 ton easily reaching 150+@peterd9698
Not sure if he mentioned the fact that Spacex could also save the human race from extinction although this selfless
aspect is hard to grasp or apreciate by most of the population.
That's almost funny...
Money spent on space is basically rounding errors in the budgets. Its basically nothing. We spend about the same on chocolate...
Another awesome video Marcus! Thanks for keeping us in the know.
The space program funding is a drop in the ocean when compared with the Ukraine war.
True! 😡
Some of us Marcus are grown up enough to be able to cope without GPS because we can read a map.
And grid squares, and a protractor, and three Norths. In the dark, with a red lense readable map and a Lensatic 🧭
There have been numerous massive improvements found at the back door of ongoing development. For instance the basic components of the solid fuel motors were discovered by a company associated along the line with Morton Thiokol that was developing a rubber automotive tire. They had a test vehicle that was on the track that caught fire! At some point setting the tires off and burnt the test vehicle into a lump. This is my best recollection of the actual events and associations! The test vehicle tires were a mixture of aluminum and rubber.
The genuinely radical developments are often, as was mentioned above, found when no one is actually looking!! Fueled rockets are barely capable of reaching nearby planets let alone "nearby stars" ?? We need the genuine focused research and the "happy accidents" of Bob Ross!!!
As usual, very inspiring mate, great video.
Nice push for the benefits of space exploration, Marcus. The business of supplying oxygen on the moon seems formidable.
With moon ice, the moonbase will become 98% self sustaining (oxygen, water, food).
you either expand into space or you go extinct
Very weird logic..
@@velisvideos6208 the fuck you mean
@@velisvideos6208 well you could ask dinosaurs how well not expanding went except they are extinct because in the long run planets are death traps.
Both my parents died of cancer when i was in my mid 20s. It destroyed me. 15 years on, I allowed that pain to destroy my life by not getting treated for PTSD early on
We need to be able to treat and cure all forms of cancer
Nailed it on the head regarding nuclear power, "as long as it's done well" and that's been my philosophy behind it. The high demand for electricity we have nowadays and to generate it without burning any fuel available to us. As long as no corners are cut like at Three Mile Island for high profit, it's a no brainer that 1g of U can produce power equivalent to thousands of tons of coal and a tiny percent of that nuclear fuel is waste. Down side is the time it takes to build the power stations, fire them up and decommission.
The tech that can separate the air is very interesting and is something to keep an eye on.
You misunderstand. TMI was indeed "nuclear power done well." Compare and contrast it with Chernobyl. The failure was very similar, the reasons for it are very similar, but the outcome couldn't have been more different.
Human error is always going to be present in any system that is created by humans. Therefore you have to account for that error and make sure that your design can only fail in ways where nobody gets hurt - that's the real meaning of Murphy's Law. The RBMK reactors at Chernobyl were designed as though nobody would inevitably fuck up. They were a disaster waiting to happen.
The reactor at TMI on the other hand, suffered repeated and severe instances of human error and still managed not to hurt or kill anyone. I'm not sitting in an exclusion zone. And TMI was a far less advanced design than we have now.
was there nothing better ? there was no news either?
They need to move mining and manufacturing off-world.
This was a particularly powerful video. Seriously, props to you and the inspiration you provide to thousands.
Thanks Daniel!
I think you could have also mentioned things such as asteroid mining or space based solar power. Those will offer us things such as abundant clean resources and energy independence. That would revolutionise our world how it is today
You said it: Cancer alone is enough reason for the space program. My friend died at the age of 34, last month. She leaves behind her 5 year old. I was devastated in learning, how little we know about the treatment of some cancer variations, after all those decades and billions for foundations and research programs, down on earth.
While there are many good people working hard to help mankind. Medicine is big business. Corporations are here to make money. They do that by optimizing the amount of money they take from us. We must fix this along with the insurance companies who more than double the cost of medicine while hamstringing care.
Alpha particle-emitting isotopes can be linked to antibodies targeting specific cells in the body. It's like delivering a laser guided grenade to the cancer that ONLY destroys the cancer, leaving the surrounding healthy tissue intact.
These have already been used to cure metastatic cancer. The problem is that these isotopes have such a short half-life that they have only been produced in nuclear accelerators at tremendous expense.
They could be produced and extracted from molten salt thorium reactors on a continuous basis and used within days before they decayed.
This would be a cure for ANY type of cancer without the horrible side effects of chemotherapy and traditional radiation therapy.
BTW, I am a physician and a survivor of stage 3 nasopharyngeal cancer, so I know these side effects only too well.
34...That's just not fair. Life sucks sometimes. Let's hope in future we can at least research and prevent that from happening again in the future. So sorry to hear about your friend...
@@danharold3087 Well, you're talking about the US. Not all countries are the same.
@@danharold3087 to be fair, that is mainly a US problem. In germany we extreme high prices at the drug store, but get free healthcare. I am no expert anymore, but a universal system is cheaper, everywhere in the world.
Starship is not the way to go! I am a big supporter of spaceflight and I do support the starship as a heavy launch vehicle to low earth orbit but I don’t think that starship is the way to go to the moon if it requires 10 to 20 refueling in real low earth orbit in order to get there and get back. Plus, it requires a monstrous ladder for the Astros actually get down to the surface of the moon and back up. However, I do see your point about new technologies being developed. Here is a list of some of the technologies that I think are being developed right now by Elon:
1 How to make promises that you clearly can’t keep and yet have people believe them
2 how to call failure a success over and over again
3 how to brainwash a cult of people who refuse to listen to any realistic criticism of how the program is being run
4 how to create schedules that are clearly going to slip from day one and then slip them over and over and over again
5 how to keep redefining the project and the design of starship over and over again with no one noticing
6 how to get billions out of Congress without delivering what you promised, and yet still have people say that you are an entrepreneur who is boldly using his own money to develop this program when he clearly isn’t
7 and the most important technology of all, how to distract people from the failures of cyber truck and Twitter
THIS! Starship is not optimized for anything beyond LEO. SLS has already orbited the moon. The spaceX lander is ridiculously oversized and badly layed out, and the 10-20 flights required to fuel it makes it insanely complicated and risky. Not only is Starship incomplete they haven't even attempted orbital refueling.
What is the way? Wait for NASA to get to the moon in the 2030s? That won't happen. It will be the 2040s or later and for billions and probably nearing a trillion.
@@YourArmsGone
You are entirely correct ! However, I urge you to BE QUIET lest the Muskrats hear you and show up at your door with pitchforks and torches! To mollify them, repeat "Starship is Perfect!" every minute of every day (both awake and in your dreams) for a year. Eventually you will ACTUALLY see 5 lights instead of 4!***
(***Yes, that's a TNG reference.)
Great episode Marcus. Very inspiring...
How are we going to have a moon base when the moon is already occupied?! bill nelson recently said that we dont know what's on the farside and further said its constantly in darkness!😂😢
constantly in darkness?? 14 days of sun, 14 days of dark same as the side facing us
@@zebo-the-fat that's what he said. Either he's completely clueless or just plain stupid.
@@zebo-the-fat that's what he said completely clueless and lying to the public. Smh!
That's what he said!😂@@zebo-the-fat