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Behringer Model D #03 - Eurorack Patching Sequence & Modulation
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- čas přidán 7. 02. 2018
- As we've just got the Behringer Model D into the eurorack case it seemed to make sense to sequence it, modulate it and patch it with the rest of the modular for a little jam. I run down all the patching, sequencing, mixing, modulation, audio rate modulating the filter for vocal/formant like overtones, mixing oscillators, FX, mixing in drums, influencing drum rhythms with the Model D LFO and plenty more! Fire away with any questions and subscribe to stay tuned lots more to come.
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That move using a sequenced Tides into the filter is awesome. Brings a whole different level of sound to it.
nice one! cheers.
They should give you one of those "Master Class" video gigs. This was a great breakdown of integrating the D into your modular rig. Well done!
haha then I can be on the adverts for everyone's videos! haha. Cheers John.
Oooooooow... that reverb is juicy, man! Adds a lot of vibe.
Nice 1 Ben, patch explanation is what I asked for.
glad to offer something useful to you.
I always enjoy your patches. Great work.
Great thanks Dan.
I think it looks great in a eurorack!
most things look nice with a few more modules around them :D
Sounds fucking beautiful man!
With the pro 2 the same thing is possible, and you can even route it to the pro2s external input and ad dist, envelopes, two filters lfos, decimate and the pro 2s dcos. Its fantastic. You can store everything and that makes the model d quite live-usable. 🙌🏻 i love the model d. It adds the vcos to the pro 2. now it sounds like a cem or/and a pro 1 on steroids 😆
cross patching modulation and audio between synths is a firm favourite. Nice way to work and expand things.
Great video series on this unit your doing here. I just got my BM-D today and the sound is so amazing! Debating if I want to start a Eurorack or not since I also have the 0 coast. Not too sure I want to enter that rabbit hole.
interesting position. It's definitely a rabbit hole. 0 Coast and this play nice together.
I have both now and plan on hooking some cable together very soon!
Depends on what you do. I built up 12 u x 84 hp, and realized I more enjoy tonal analog music, and having so many modules wasn’t necessary. I kept a few synth voice modules, a little collection of utility modules and LFOs, mixed in with some desktop semi-modular stuff (TomO SEM pro, Dreadbox Erebus), and its STILL an insane modular sonic playground.
If you find you dig the more esoteric stuff, then you may dig having rows and rows of stuff....it just wasn’t needed for what I do.
My Boog arrives later this week.
I have both this and a Neutron as a base for my modular. I do mainly melodic music. I mess with random stuff a bit, but I am building my modular to be a wall of voices that I can modify and swap parts in and out of.
Picking mine up tomorrow! #Dday!
How's Dday gone?
Besides being a nice look at the D, I especially like your explanation of the patch. And isn't the TiNRS Tuesday great?
Tuesday is totally ace! In most videos I've made since having it.
Yeeej for the big FAT sounds :-D
YAY for the ace sequencing options :)
I have a Model D and nothing else (except a drum machine), and I’m looking to expand its capabilities with a modest set of modules. Any suggestions for where to start? Or what to think on to start?
Hi Spencer, answered this in more details on the other comment you left on the Sebsongs video. All the best.
From some reason my Model D is significantly quieter than my 2500 series modules. All are going into an MST 4 channel audio/cv mixer. Any tips?
Awesome video, as always! Did you ever get the official confirmed mA-values from Behringer for this?
I haven't spoken to them but it's in the manual at 7 watts. if that's just DC +12V then that's 583mA of current.
Is the Behringer Model D's output on the main outs "yellow" cable in this video -- is it modular level or line level?
modular level.
Dude. I am so inspired right now.. its like a jackhammer on my brainmatter ( listening on JBL-LSR308s on proper stands) berry punchy I could hear some static and artifacts on the panned left chanel (my right speaker?) You may have explained this what is the Module provider the oscilloscope to the left of the Model D?
nice to inspire cheers Rick!
Fantastic demo my Friend!!!! Does the Model D have CV pitch out/in?
no CV pitch out, but the 1v/oct input on the oscillator section is the pitch input.
Great patch. You always seem to come up with something I like. Do you have the neutron yet? What do you think of it Vs the D sound?
That's cool, cheers! I've had a Neutron for a while and worked on a few things with testing and some ideas with them. I haven't made proper videos but I did have some teaser videos from my time testing the unit - czcams.com/video/_mc4-azFUsQ/video.html
Thanks for the vid. Really inspiring! Wanna get this but I'm quite new to synthesis and wondered if any of the parameters are controllable over midi cc? For instance using a digitakt to control the fm on the filter? Thanks
it's not MIDI CC controllable I'm afraid.
DivKidVideo okay thanks for the reply
no worries anytime.
Neutron gives better modular integration with all the patch points but in terms of sound, would you say the Model-D sounds better that Neutron? asking because you played both
"better" is extremely difficult to quantify with a definitive answer. "different" is the answer. VCOs, filter, VCA/drive paths etc.
Quick question - you say you are using a velocity output to control the pitch of tides. Is that the same gate you are sending to the filter envelope or something else?
If it's a gate I'm struggling to understand how it's modulating tides. If it's something else then I missed that in your explanation... :)
Hi Dan, it's not a gate. Velocity is stepped as it's a held value "per note" not variable like say aftertouch. So it's another stepped sequence but unquantised and derived from the main sequence which is from Tuesday from TiNRS (this is not rocket science). Tuesday (the module) has note (pitch), gate (note on and off), accent (another gate) and velocity (another stepped sequence perfect for modulation).
DivKidVideo brilliant, thanks for the clarification. I tried to recreate something similar last night (admittedly with different and more limited kit). End result - rubbish! Back to the drawing board for me lol. You have some skills there Ben :)
I have to say, the thing sounds great. Overall, are you suprised by it? I am!
I was yeah. Well, after hearing the DeepMind 12 develop and then having one I guess I'm not surprised. I think it's really interesting to see where Behringer, the MIDAS team and synths go in terms of future products. Neutron is great and I'd love to see a dirty raw analog poly.
Interesting indeed. I've found the whole thing rather unexpected. Looking forward to seeing some Neutron videos !
I'm looking at picking up 1 or 2 modules to add to the Behringer Model D, what do you think would be the best investment if you could only choose 1 or 2 modules? I was thinking of going with 1 or 2 Disting MK4.
What do you want to "expand" and why just one or two modules? The case will cost nearly the price of a module. There's lots of ways to expand all with differing interfaces. A Disting will give you lots of options but is small and means changing it's behaviour to suit what you want. You may just want a dedicated FX module, oscillator, different filter. So what are you wanting to expand with? That's the first thing to think about.
Well I have a Make Noise Skiff and a beringer model D on order and I already have a ES-40 + ESX-8MD modules. I think that gives me 18hp left. So I was thinking of adding a couple of modules to compliment. So I was looking at the Disting MK4 or something else.
But what do you want to expand with in terms of function? Not in terms of modules specifically. Is it modulation, another sound source, an FX unit, processor etc? Distings are great multi-function tools if you're not sure.
DivKidVideo Hi, yeah I guess I don't really know. Basically making the Behringer Model D into an even more feature rich synth. So I suppose modulation first. Also I suppose I could also try a different filter like the 4075. FX would be last choice unless something was really good and inexpensive. I just realized a Korg SQ-1 would be a good cheap option. I did like your modulation additions.
Well there's not much to modulate but a sequencer for the filter CV in and another oscillator would be useful for mixing into the external input and/or for filter modulation too. A Korg SQ-1 is a great but, so cheap and useful.
i want to buy a moslab filter as i really like the sound - i am a bit
strapped for cash so cant afford a full moslab system - can i somehow
plug my behringer model D into a moslab filter and use the boogs osc and amp ? thanks to anyone who can help
you can't take the oscillator out then into the filter. You'd need the mixer VCO levels up full for the mix out to work but then the external input (after going from mix out to the Moslab) would mix with the VCOs again before hitting the filter.
What maximal output levels are you getting from the main output please?
Not sure off the top of my head and unfortunately it's not right here to check the voltages. What makes you ask?
Hi,
Output levels on my model D seem to be a bit below the usual eurorack levels (-5 to 5V or even -10 to 10V).
More around -1 to 1V output on my device.
Very nice Ben
1 OSC sounds great and it is a damn shame they cannot be patched out individually
It is but for the price it's still nuts.
DivKidVideo absolutely agree, it wasn't a put down
If you put it in your eurorack does the usb midi still work?
Hi Ben, what module do you mean at the 1:45? Thank´s and nice videos!
I read it in the other comments: Tuesday from TiNRS! All the best!
that's the one, cheers!
what you think about its quality, your opinion please
I just got mine today and the build is amazing! I might be doing a review on it soon.
Pure Ambient Drone thx ,!
Pure Ambient Drone is it about M32 size ?
I just took my tape measure out, its 14.5 inches wide I think the M32 is 12.5 inches.
good build quality @Mark as Pure Ambient says. It's a bit wider than a M32 yeah.