Should You Switch to StepOns? | Burton Binding Comparision
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In this video, Nev tests Burtons StepOn Bindings, to see how they stack up to normal StrapIn Bindings.
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0:00 - Intro
1:07 - StrapIn Lap 1
4:20 - StepOn Lap 1
7:35 - StrapIn Lap 2
9:10 - StepOn Lap 2
10:28 - Final Thoughts - Sport
At 56, been riding since '92. Had various bindings over the yrs. Had Cartels from '09 to '19. Been using Step Ons since '22. Clocked 50mph all week. Deep JAPOW too, no issues. Also found it better to have the levers on the inside. These are game changers.
As a patroller, StepOns have been a game changer. The time saved getting in and out of your bindings when in an urgent situation is a day and night difference.
Our filmer Harry said exactly this, You can't beat StepOns for their convenience, We also know a number of Snowboard instructors who use them and for their line of work they are great especially when teaching beginners.
As someone with a chronic back problem, the step on has been a life saver. The best part is that it is a very smooth transition from traditional straps and you don't need to compromise on performance. Love them so much that I got two sets
This channel is one of the BEST snowboarding channels on CZcams.
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We are so glad you think so! Thanks for your support :)
My pleasure!! Keep the great content coming please!! @@SnowboardAddiction
Im a huge Burton fan but for those not wanting to be forced to buy new boots or forced to wear Burton step on boots, the Nidecker Supermatic bindings are a great alternative where you wear whatever boots you want. Just come back from Austria and they were fantastic. They also have straps like traditional bindings for those times you're not on flat terrain.
There’s nitro and DC boots to chose ,true about step-on are hard to strap in powder or slope
I don't wear Burton step on boots, I have Nitro step on boots and they are great.
I had the Burton Photon boots, first generation. I had a hot spot on the bone above my small toe. I changed this year to the Nitro Darkseid boots. Expensive but so worth it. Never had a pair of boots from new that were so comfortable. Normally there is a break in period but these were spot on from day one. I think more boot manufacturers will be available in the coming years. The convenience is just a no brainer especially if you're an old boy like me.
@@xollob same, I feel that spot when trying it in store.
The Nideckers add a ton of weight to the board that I didn't like. They felt heavy the entire time I had them on. Strap ons were way lighter. Rode them for an entire season.
Tried step ons for the first time a couple years ago in aspen, game changer never going back. Had some traditional rental bindings in NC recently and I like the step ons more
Anything is going to be better than rentals, I tried step ins, wouldn't use them instead of the Union Force bindings, far better.
I’ve been riding since 1988. Raced in hardboots in the early days and switched to straps for everything in 1992. Now that I’ve been in the Step On’s since were introduced, strap bindings are dead to me. The convenience is a non-factor, it’s all about the superior response that I feel from the Step On interface while carving.
Great video, keep up the good work. Cheers!
Instructions unclear... I bought the wrong type of strap ons 😳
My step ons came with straps, please help 😂
Lmaooo
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Total accident I’m sure
I switched to step ons after 15 years of riding… love em… great response, light, and awesome for hike parks and lapping small hills 🤙
I've been using Step On bindings since they first came out December 2019 and switching with normal Cartel bindings a lot. Besides the convenience Nev talked about and a little performance gap from heel to toe, weight is another factor. Step Ons are lighter than normal, it's a little easier to over spin for spin moves, but saves a lot of energy of riding, hiking, etc.
I started the season with step ons and with 30 days on the pistes so far I'm really happy with them. I find that they transmit my movement more directly to the board which takes a few runs to get used to. There is also less ice buildup although that may just be the way the season is going. I changed bindings this year because they were a few years old and I was afraid of the strap snapping off while I was on piste as has happened with three of my previous bindings.
As a StepOn user the past 2 years (with about 50 days on them), I can confidently say I will ONLY continue using StepOns going forward.
The time and energy savings really add up if where you ride often has shorter runs.
At my local hill, the runs would take anywhere between like 20 secs - 5 mins maybe, depending on my riding style.
To strap on and off so frequently does take a toll for a 6'2 guy like me to bend over or sit down all day long.
For park riding, I literally dont even need to use my hands to StepOn again. I simply put my foot back into the binding, simple.
I can fit in soo many more runs than everyone else, and you really do save energy not having to deal with the straps so often.
All other boarders will even burn more energy bending over to strap on, or get their butt wet sitting down to strap.
I can StepOn as I am getting off the chair and start riding INSTANTLY.
Also getting over any flat areas? No problem. Easily StepOff and ON again as I'm skating over. So quick
HIGHLY RECCOMEND STEPONS if you ride often, on shorter runs.
Not really needed otherwise but its all user preference at the end of the day.
I find most of the hate on StepOns are from people that NEVER USED them before, which is quite hilarious.
lol well said m8!! \m/
"I can fit in so many more runs then everyone else."
Yeah If you have no Friends and always ride alone lol. Most of the time you are waiting for others anyways and they don't all have step ons..
@@grantkuropatwa6583 doesn't change the fact that u still gotta sit down or bend over everytime, that's still work that adds up.
And if you have skier friends... 💁🏻♂️
@@TheKoreanCanadian not even relevant to my comment whatsoever but k. Lol
@@grantkuropatwa6583 it is relevant. Your comment is only valid if time saving was the ONLY benefit, which it isn't lmao
Have u even used StepOns before? Lmao
I just started using the step on last weekend and the experience was AMAZING!!! Absolutely a game changer. I don’t continually worry about whether the straps are tight enough and I don’t feel my heel lifting up… I actually thought my riding IMPROVED, particularly carving. I’m buying a 2nd step on binding for my Never Summer twin board!
The most shocking thing about them is how normal they feel. I went from Cartels to StepOns and I honestly can't tell the difference when riding.
I went from cartels to union atlas pros and it was night and day. Cartels are just overrated.
Was whole season on a Step On's and I love them. After modifying a bit heel part, I have no play so it's even better now.
What'd you do to eliminate the play? I've heard about the moment, and so scared to make the switch myself. Would you say that Step Ons are lighter than Strap on?
@@powrunnr I'll make a video about it. But if shortly, I added a padding on a heel side of a base. So it's stays always engaged.
@@powrunnr And about the waight, I think, they are just a bit lighter. Maybe around a pound together.
It's my first season on step ons and won't be going back. They have no limits and never failed me.
Burton have started to licence the StepOn tech to other boot brands such as DC and Nitro and possibly more in the future! This will help finding a boot that fits perfectly whilst being able to utilise the StepOn Tech!
I love my StepOns!
Love the videos. Not sure if it matters but in the chapter selection thoughts is misspelled. Keep making great videos. Just went snowboarding for the first time last weekend now I am looking at buying all the gear! I think I might just get step ins.
Thanks for that!
They are really nice, if you don't mind being limited to a few possible boots, and having to trust that they will be available going forward.
I have multiple bindings, pairs of boots, etc. I already know what I like. I'm open to trying new boots but man, once you find some that work well and feel good for a whole day, and the next day, you aren't too eager to start over.
I would love it if they were all good step ons, but they're not.
Will there be a standard like with skis?
Got the Nidecker Supermatic because my feet didn’t like the Burton boots. Also don’t want to be forced into certain boots.
Love the Supermatics, highly recommend them.
Too much heel lift in the Step-On boots. Maybe the problem was in the boots, but I was missing the heel strap while trying to carve hard.
Not possible to set the really aggressive highback angle, not possible to rotate the highback either.
A no-go for carvers.
Good choice for recreational riders though.
It sounds as if most people need to size down further for StepOns, having slightly the wrong size boot in StepOns has a big impact on their performance..
Nev, what's your thought on the heel lift? I find that it makes carving and taking off on toe edge much harder. It's more forgiving for jibbing but I'm worried that I might learn tricks sloppily so I cannot later do them without the step ons.
Nev's main note was that slight delay in edge to edge transition. I think there is maybe a space for StepOns in everyones quiver, this doesn't mean they are perfect for everything and everyone!
Step ons have 2 click points. Upper is for powder, and if you only get that, you will have heel lift. Press more to get the second click, than your heel should be in place.
If you are struggling with the second click, especially due to forward lean, move the padding a little forward.
If you are talking about the heel lift in the boot, burton photon boots have a strap to aid it. I also found helpful to push the boot tongue down and then tightening it. You can also have some boot base insert.
I needed straps that didn’t pit pressure on my instep so I tried step ons. The boots and overall feeling was not good for me. Flows with fusion straps are so much better for me.
Glad you could find something that works for you :)
The convenience of step ons are worth the money. Supermatics were better than straps but are considerably heavier and have a finicky exit lever. Switching to step ons cut the weight and the frustration of getting out. Step ons are my daily now
I'm an experienced skier learning to ride and StepOns are very appealing to me. Too bad most places in Vancouver are almost sold out and don't have my size anymore. probably next season
Hello, i have the same board as you (Custom) and i know that you ride switch a lot, so the question is: did you mount your bindings in the middle so you can have the same nose lenght as tail or you ride with a little seatback ( the recomandation holes from Burton) ?
Its always better to centre mount if you are riding switch a lot, as this keeps your riding in both directions consistant. :) Hope this helps
I demored these the first year they came out. I have wide feet and the burton boots crushed them. I was in pain. I did like the convenience and the quick edge to edge response, but I also found them to be a bit ridgid. At the time I was using Cartels and stuck to them for bit longer, but I now I have Rome Katanas and these are my end game bindings.
I’ve got wide feet so I bought wide photons. My feet killed me the first year in the wrong boots but I haven’t had any problems with my wide boots for the past two years 🤘
You can now get StepOn compatible boots by DC and Nitro moving forward the selection will improve and then StepOns may appeal to a large market :)
I have Flow and love them~ Never will switch back to traditional. Getting the step ons for next season. The efficiency is the biggest benefit and gets you back on the slopes quicker. But leave it to a bunch of criminals to enjoy loitering and brandishing their weapons at the top of ski lifts.
Burton should just release the licensing to the other brands and it will be the more common binding.
Burton have been licensing the tech to other brands! You are now able to buy StepOn compatible boots from other brands such as DC and Nitro!
If you love Flows, you should try the Nidecker Supermatics. Nidecker actually owns Flow, but the Supermatics are so much better than the Flows. You can keep your current boots you have for the Supermatics. If you buy Burton Step-one, you’d have to cough up a ton more money bcuz you’d have to buy specialized boots
I am still thinking to go to step on or not. Thanks for your information 😊
Using the 2nd generation step ons for 3 seasons. Strongly recommended.
@@dagadagad Thank you for your suggestion😊
Do you find it difficult to know if your clipped in properly with the step-on's?
They have 2 clicks to let you know you are locked in, the first inital click locks you in and the second sebsiquent click locks you in with more pressure.
Did you notice any real difference doing the butter tricks? This is a great idea for a review thanks for doing this!
No there is no major difference. It’s just convenience. I find myself using regular binding most of the time but I use step ons all the time when I ride with my kids for the extra ease of use
Step on of any kind are amazing for running laps in the midwest small hills. Can't say if they'd be great on real mountains though
And that's why we made this video!
I wouldn't think they are that different in regards to what tricks you guys can pull.
I've been riding strap in bindings since I was 10 and I'm 45... Looks easy but I love to know how they do on cold days when the snow turns to ice on the bindings and if they still click in the same. With strap ins, it doesn't really matter. You just put your foot over it and strap in. I'd wonder if the click ins still work the same if your foot can't sit perfectly flat on the binding due to snow and ice.
Not an issue at all in them. It allows for snow and ice build up. I've ridden with Step-ons in Japan and will never go back now. Been riding with strap for the past 20 years.
Ridden them in subzero temps all day. (F) , I've had straps snap on me, yet to have hooks snap on me
Actually I find that extreme cold makes straps stiff and be abnormal, but the step ins are flawless because there's no bendy plastic parts that get stiff.
They allow less fore and aft movement and tweaking, so it does affect how tricks feel and look.
If you don't notice the difference between the two, then Burton R&D has succeeded. It's just down to personal taste. All my buddies still use strap ins, so it feels normal and social to strap in together before ride. Also, we all like to try out different boot and binding brands, see we want to have that freedom.
strong on those :)
Love the StepOns. Three years on them now and I’ll never go back.
Would love to go back to Step Ons, but the boot options are abysmal and don't fit my feet
Always gotta go with what ever boots fit best!
It seems step-ons are more suitable for the average rider but those riding 7 days/week, months on end are staying with traditional gear. I want to know how many hours step-on bindings last - how much life in the boots? Maybe theres more to consider than which performs better. Are step-ons that much more convenient? I've found people enjoy the banter after a chairlift ride while I spend the extra 30s to strap in. With step-ons I'm left ready and waiting while the crew have a chat anyway.
I ride stepons 7 days a week.
What myths would you like dispelled
Logically, it's more about the physical toll of having to stand up and sit down over and over again.
Again, logically. You can step into your bindings and still have a chat with your friends if you want...lmao!
Not sure anyone can answer your questions as they are lacking any common sense.
There are pros and cons to both types of bindings at the end of the day it will depend on you as a rider what suits you best! :)
@@SnowboardAddiction
I just want edge to edge performance, the in/out is a nice 2ndary bonus
What bindings angles you ride?
looks like slight duck stance. i would imagine that's +11 -11 area. would like to know as well nev! i run 16/-16 since i switch ride just as much as my standard goofy stance.
@@WeTryMotorsports it’s make sense that +15 -15 more comfortable to me to ride than like +15 -9 even that I don’t ride switch ?
@@sagivcohenz all depends on what your natural stance is. i used to ride 15/-2 but changed it accordingly to ride switch. the more advanced of a rider you become, your stance is subject to change. I ride 20/0 on my pow board!
I'm riding 12, -9
Just a heads up: most binding companies work on 3 degree increments, you you are probably running 12,-12 or 15,-15@@WeTryMotorsports
Hope this helps
Need to take a harder look at step on bindings. Being. A Dad hitting 40 and no longer having my 20s body yeah looking at you gut. It would definitely be easier getting up and going. Even bending over standing up sucks. Stay in shape boarders it's a pain otherwise!
StepOns could be the answer to your problems! :)
@@SnowboardAddiction any opinion between Bettina, nydeker and clue? Not sure if there are others out there. I ride the all mountain style playing on it as a park.
I'm of the view that Switch solved the boot-interface problem in 1997 but sadly did not have the right boots. I've been riding since 92 and using some form of step-in since 97 and would never go back to traditional straps. Currently using Supermatic and they are great but I'll forever mourn the death of the Switch system because they had the right solution but it died before it had matured and boots had come up to spec with the rest of the market.
Before I stop snowboarding I hope for a Switch reboot kickstarter to hit the world!
If you haven't tried StepOns I strongly suggest you give them a try!
@@SnowboardAddiction Burton boots don't fit my foot unfortunately and where I live the other compatible brands are not available for me to try so that rules Stepons out for me. Looks a nice system though.
Straps all the way, everyday!
Skier at 1:14 lol
lol had his 5 seconds of fame.
Bro is now Whistler Famous.
You should ride the Step Ons for an entire week to get the strap bias out of your head. Also surprised there's some play from toe to heel, usually there's none
Nev was commenting more on the slight delay in edge transition rather than a mechanical play within the binding :)
@@SnowboardAddiction Hmm...it's my experience that the heel-to-toe response is unmatched, since the boot is literally part of the binding when locked in
I went to step ons 5 years ago and will never go back to regular bindings.
Glad you could find a binding thats perfect for you!
I've just pre-ordered some Clew step in bindings for next season.
I can't use Burton ones as my feet are very wide and don't fit in Burton boots comfortably.
Hope you like them. My other half has them and loves them to bits. Way easier to use than the Burtons and like you, she can use her faverate boots, instead of the limited selection that Burton offer.
@@gregsmith7821
Yeah. I've measured up my Northwave boots. They should fit.
Dude return those. Clew are garbage. Just use normal bindings if Burton Step Ons don't work.
@@hb7030 Have you tried them?
@@l3v1ckUK They seem to follow the same sizes as Salomon bindings. We are both on Salamon boots and bindings, so they fit perfectly for us. The size 'M' (medium) fit both her size 6.5 and my size 9 (UK sizes) boots but did need adustment to move from one to the other (heal and toe strap), which is sadly not 'tooless' and I did feel that my size 9's maxed them out.
The Clew has a similar ride and fit to a Salamon Highlander but, lack sophistication and cush. Fine for beginner/intermediate happy with a basic, entry level binding but I suspect an experienced advanced/expert rider who pushes hard, might find them lacking. Especially if you have previously been spoiled with a super suspended binding and prefer to be in an icy park, taking hits all day, Perfectly fine for normal resort cruising/carving, occasional smaller jumps etc. Very responsive, easy to use and fantastic if you find bending over to use straps at the lift a pain.
You can twist your foot getting out but you don’t need too. Just lift the lever and raise your heel a little bit and step forward. Once you get used to them you will notice that if you raise your heel too much it actually wedges your front cleats in the binding and that makes the twist something that is needed to step out. Just don’t raise the heel so high and kick forward out it the binding. Took me a while to realize that.
Thanks for sharing, great tips! :)
Just learn to strap in standing up. Once you learn not to sit down while strapping in, it is actually is faster and you'll save some money for a full camber board.
If this were possible for everyone then step in bindings wouldn't even be a thing lol. But they are... So you're dumb
Standing is definitely the best way to strap in!
No fkn way its faster then step on. My friends all strap in standing and I am 2-3x times as fast.
i snowboarded 4 times on traditional bindings, I then dropped a nice amount of cash on a full burton AK setup with ions and step ons. Having the proper gear makes all the difference in the world.
All the gear no idea, I suggest going through a lot of trial gear until you can find your favourite gear.
I'm on Vans boots, Union Force bindings, and a custom bi directional gullwing board.
@@mrljgibson
Who has no idea..... Lol, way to assume, I know what to buy because I gained knowledge on the subject paired with real world exp, in the last year (Feb - Feb) I've had 52 days on the mountain. Snowshoe, KIllington, Camelback, Breck, Keystone, A Basin, Big bear, Snowbowl, Snow Summit, Mammoth. All the gear I have purchased is all guaranteed for life. I've had 30+ year enthusiasts ask what I'm wearing and for insight on why, and I've gotten a few of them to follow suit. People think differently, I build my world around knowledge and never assume like you just did.
How many time can you step in before they no longer engage? I think for longevity strap in would be the better option.
Burton have tested this extremely thoroughly and they are super confident in the design and its longevity! Straps will eventually wear out and break as well..
Burtons I've tried have always been meh, mushy and unresponsive.
I started using Union Force years ago, I've tried step ins and they still aren't as good.
Choosing bindings is all about picking something that works for you and your riding, it doesn't mean one binding is better than another :)
I have been boarding for about 26 years, and usually get 20-30 days in every season. Last year, I "upgraded" to Burton Ion boots,,, and they were hands down the worst boots that I can remember having since the old lace-up boots of long ago.
As for step-ons, in my experience, they are ok and obviously convenient, but they wear out faster and don't give quite as good of control.
I have no reason to drop my union Falcor or Atlas Pros for step ons. You feel so locked into the board and you never worry about busting out of a binding while riding 40 mph or dropping cliffs.
@@hb7030 as a compromise between convenience, comfort and control, I currently am using one of the higher end Flow bindings, and so far I am happy with them.
Remember the days of “friends don’t let friends ride step ons” that’s the sticker I saw when I was a young kid..taking snowboarding lessons…in step ons lol
That little click you feel would annoy the hell out of me
What?! Hahahahaha omg I bet just breathing annoys you😂
Me too. Can't think of anything I hate more than things that have flaws like that built into them. The designers should have known better, and instead left it to someone else to do it properly.
The click is so that you can hear if you are correctly locked into the binding, without it, theres no way to know for certain!
@@SnowboardAddiction Didn't you say you could hear it while you're riding though?
This review would be more comprehensive to compare traditional strap-ins, to Burton Step-ons, to the Nidecker Supermatics. Not sure why you only picked the Step-ons for this review.…
Unforuntately for this video we weren't able to compare every type of binding alternative on the market! We wanted to compare the two types that we had expierence in using so that we could give our honest opinion on the tech. Theres plenty of great comparision videos that compare the other styles too if you are interested in this! We may be able to do this in the future :)
Not to be a dick but your graphics person has a hard time distinguishing between plural s and genitive apostrophes in some of these titles
We're snowboarders, we are probably all a little dyslexic!
This would be a more interesting comparison if it didn't come across as a Burton sponsorship ad.... Ions, Step-ons, Custom board, AK gear throughout... not exactly an everyman presentation m8.
No money exchanged hands for this video, This is Nev's honest opinion on the gear. We wanted to use the same boards and simialr bindings to do a direct comparision. Wearing Burton AK is purely because its great gear and its Nev's signature style!
Loved stepon photons and genesis bindings until both fell apart. Burton gave me a full refund. And I got a new non step on photons and guess what the toe boxes didn't disintegrate over 60 days... The hammocks on the high backs are pop riveted and plastic crap. One year guarantee. Good luck!
Avoid photons and genesis if you want to try this junk. So wide footers you're out of luck...
Thanks for sharing your expierence! Burton have started to license the stepon tech to other boot brands, you can already get StepOn compatible DC and Nitro boots as alternatives to Burton boots! :)
@@SnowboardAddiction there needs to be a structure in the boot that withstands the forces applied. Like a webbing or internal tensioning straps that take the forces instead of the boots...which just aren't designed for stepon at all... I'd be surprised if they've done much on that front...
Burton's just churning out photons and genesis are poorly constructed. Pop rivets into plastic.. Plastic teeth holding them together? Junk.
If they secured the gas pedal better (I put shock cord through the gaspedal and the disc so it couldnt go anywhere when it tried to fall off), and made replacement toe clips widely available for when they start failing I'd give them another try. But making improvements would mean admitting the current iteration are crap/full of short lifespan parts. Which they are...
Unless you're super casual, paid by Burton, or comfortable with disposable gear at the same price as quality gear that lasts several seasons.
Don't get me wrong they're the most eloquent system out there, but also the worst value.
Id be interested if boots without all the toe seams on the Photon last longer, but none of the boots I've seen have been beefed up for step on. Just the same boot with step on clips, so I doubt it... At least the standard model stepon doesn't havd the dicky hammock, and it's cheaper. .
proprietary design = red flag. i would buy a back in with lever or a nidecker supermatic ( despite their weights)
Everyone has different needs and requirements for their snowboarding equipment, this is the beauty of an open market with lots of options, everyone can choose the gear that suits them and their individual needs :)
I've had step in bindings in the 90's. No thanks.
They have come a very long way since the 90's, they are a totally different system! :)
@@SnowboardAddiction you still need proprietary boots
You should try the new ones. They're great
StepOns wouldn't last 2 days with my style of riding
No idea what that means haha
Until a step-ons first place podium at the X-games, Natural Selection, and Freeride World Tour…there’s a reason why not to use them, unless you’re overweight or handicapped
The average snowboarder isn't getting first place on the podium at the X-Games, Natural Selection, or FWT - Ride whatever system works best for you and your own riding and gear needs. :)
@@SnowboardAddiction nope buddy, its called performance and reliability. Plenty of podium finishes on mid grade strap bindings and big mountain video parts. When some of us value our money we want peace of mind. Thanks
Im getting sick of these paid reviews
Then stop watching them you donkey
This was 100% not a paid review, only Nev's honest feedback on the StepOn bindings. :)
I'm actually still going to ride strap bindings but's mostly just out of habit. I didn't find a huge difference between the bindings. I also don't mind having to flex down to do up traditional bindings as it probably good for mobility having to get low a lot.
And yet, here you are
Based on Burton’s big PR push, this feels a little spammy like they sent you this gear for free in exchange for a favorable review 🤔
Nev has, and uses both systems so he wanted to share his personal, unfiltered thoughts on both systems and how they compare. Nothing more :)
Step ons ARE AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would never buy Burton proprietary bindings fist of all. Second, most people aren't busting 540's, hitting rails and at the park all day. So not really a video that's useful for many people. This is mostly a show off video of yourself lol
Showing that these bindings can perform definately helps demonstrate StepOns capabilities!