The Way of Jesus or Jordan Peterson (Pelagianism) // Ephesians 2:1-10 // Gerard O'Brien // 7 Jan 24

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  • @geoffwatson9880
    @geoffwatson9880 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you Gerard

  • @nickward3536
    @nickward3536 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Preach Preacher!!!! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @jenniferwarhawk7301
    @jenniferwarhawk7301 Před 6 měsíci +2

    This was so good, thank you so much for this truth filled sermon!

  • @876statestreet
    @876statestreet Před 6 měsíci

    Hear Hear!

  • @matthewrava2458
    @matthewrava2458 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Peter also says, those that fear God and do righteousness are accepted by him Acts 10:35

  • @MrPorter7
    @MrPorter7 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Very good message. It's always a blessing to hear a message on this passage and you did it nicely. Thank you. I look forward to more of your sermons!

  • @alisagalloza9328
    @alisagalloza9328 Před 6 měsíci

    Loved this!

  • @SuccesTRIBE-qt5oi
    @SuccesTRIBE-qt5oi Před 6 měsíci +2

    @jordanpeterson

  • @frankjosephdaniels3733
    @frankjosephdaniels3733 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Please plead the blood of Jesus Christ over me, and pray that He leads me in all things. Pray that my mind is filled with the thoughts the Lord wants me to have, and my heart is filled with His love. Also please pray for energy, focus, strength and safety for me at work. Thank you and may God bless you in Jesus holy name. ✝️🩸✝️🩸✝️✝️🩸🩸

  • @calebcunningham3034
    @calebcunningham3034 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Pelagianism didn’t just preach that works could help us get into heaven. He argued that we could reach heaven without the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. He believed that by living a perfect life you could actually deserve heaven (something no Christian professes as we are stained by original sin). The historic Christian belief was quite different. Works were a part and by Jesus Christ becoming man and dying for our sins he made it possible for man to become like him. This discussion isn’t a discussion against Peterson but against the penitential historic belief of Christians around the world. Peterson hasn’t argued that we may become worthy of heaven by taking on responsibilities but just that taking on responsibilities brings meaning into our life. This is true regardless of your beliefs of the gospel. I appreciate being critical but this is a non-point.

  • @matthewrava2458
    @matthewrava2458 Před 6 měsíci +6

    What Peterson says is essentially what Christ says. The kingdom of God is not a place where you can say go here or there, but it's within you.
    So is the kingdom of Darkness
    Heaven and hell are within you
    Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand is essentially the same thing as get your bedroom clean, get your house in order
    Peterson also directly speaks against, and explains really well the works of the Pharisees, and how they take the name of the Lord in vain by saying and not doing
    Before Abraham was, I am
    Abraham rejoiced to see my day, he saw it and was glad
    How did Abraham see Christ?
    In Isaac, it was the word made flesh
    The spirit of life and truth manifest in the flesh
    In Isaac
    In Jesus of Nazareth
    And in all those that believe on his name today
    You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free
    I respect that this pastor is trying to protect from possible Idol worship of Jordan Peterson. But is the spirit behind Peterson, not Peterson himself that people admire
    It's the articulation of truth
    He speaks as one that has authority and not as the scribes
    As did Christ
    So who is Christ?
    He is the spirit of truth, the word of God manifest in the flesh

    • @matthewrava2458
      @matthewrava2458 Před 6 měsíci

      @nathanporter3569 thank you for that rebuke my brother, the gospel is the person of Christ Jesus, he is the fullness of the Godhead in a body. the very image of the Almighty, who overcame all things. as we behold him we are changed from glory to glory
      Behold the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world
      As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness even so must the son of man be lifted up
      Sin and death are the result of separation from God through the knowledge of good and evil. Since we are made in God's image, yet we have destroyed that image, God in his infinite love, wisdom, and mercy sent his son to be made into our image, even the image of sin, which was the crucifixion of Christ, that we might be justified by him, through faith
      Christ crucified is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. There we know evil, obviously. It's the wickedness of man that devised crucifixion
      It's the knowledge of Good, because He was only good. He willfully laid down his life in the will of the father that we may see the perfect image of righteousness and love. He that is born of love and righteousness is born of God
      The cross of Christ is also the tree of life, Jesus said except a man eat my flesh and drink my blood he has no life in him
      So in the beginning we were separated by the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and had no way to the tree of life
      Christ fulfilled all things that we may now have eternal life, in him. Through faith in his blood, and not his blood only, but in that he is also risen from the dead, seated at the right hand of the father, our great high priest making intercession for us day and night. He has overcome all things
      Oh death where is your sting! Oh grave where is your victory!
      There is no other name given under heaven whereby we must be saved, that is the name of the Lord Christ Jesus
      Whose over will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved!!!

    • @matthewrava2458
      @matthewrava2458 Před 6 měsíci

      @@josephpchajek2685 which part is jibberish? Which part is not the gospel?

    • @matthewrava2458
      @matthewrava2458 Před 6 měsíci

      @@josephpchajek2685 that's good
      Something to think about, Jesus came to fulfil all things. ALL THINGS, that includes the knowledge of good and evil. This is the thing that God said would separate man from him correct? Actually God said the day you thereof you will die. So Christ had to fulfill this as well. He did so in his person, and through his suffering at Calvery. Is not the wicked works of man crucifying the Lord of Glory evil? On the same hand, is it not the most good, in that he willfully laid down his life being perfect and without sin?
      So by definition it is the knowledge of Good AND evil
      The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is not only a lesson, but a spiritual truth
      Knowing good and knowing evil is why we die
      Evil is obviously evil, and "good" can deceive us, therefore we are lost and must be led by the Shepherd
      Cain's sacrifice looked "good" think of how good the first fruit especially back then would have looked.
      Abels would have looked "evil" ( think about how awful it is to slay a baby lamb that you have raised from birth )
      God accepted one and rejected the other. The one that would have looked good outwardly God rejected. Why?
      God looks at the heart. The sacrifices of God are a broken heart and contrite spirit, which did not come by offering fruit( the works of our own hands), but by the slaying of the lamb that you dearly loved. Hearing it cry for mercy but none being given is terrible. ( Christ fulfilled this at Calvery, he cried to the father but was forsaken) It broke Abel's heart. ( The father allowing his son to be delivered over to the most terrible death broke him as well) He bevame as God, broken because of the terribleness of sin. And God had respect to Abel because he was broken, as God was broken, because of our disfellowship with him. His sacrifice was one of love, not of works, as was Christ's and the fathers ( who are one)
      So, because of the actual knowledge of both good and evil we are completely and absolutely corrupt
      So now the way of God is by faith alone
      By faith Abel offered a better sacrifice
      And the life, death, burial and resurrection of Christ brings that same brokeness, which God will not despise. How do I know? He rose Christ from the dead. The work is finished, it was finished before the foundation of the world
      When God reveals to us his son Jesus, and we behold what he has done for us, it truly breaks us and causes repentance. It causes God to look at us with mercy. And we actually became as God is. Broken because of sin.
      And that brokenness causes God to have mercy and raise us from the dead, as Christ was
      To tie it all together on how the cross of Christ is both the knowledge of good and evil and at the same time the tree of life, just simply look
      This is perfect love, nothing can over come it. Through the knowledge of Good and evil Christ overcame it so we can now have eternal life
      Except a man eat my flesh and drink my blood he has no life in him
      We now LIVE by the faith of the son of God who loved us and gave himself for us
      He overcame ALL things that we might become the righteousness of God in Him

    • @matthewrava2458
      @matthewrava2458 Před 6 měsíci

      @@josephpchajek2685 yeah that's pretty cool. Paul talks about both of these things in Romans right? How the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. He uses the foolish things to confound the wise, and the weak things to bring down the mighty. The Lord is truly incredible and worthy to be praised!

    • @matthewrava2458
      @matthewrava2458 Před 6 měsíci

      @@josephpchajek2685 yeah and you're absolutely right about Christ fulfilling the Law and the Prophets, and not destroying them. It was the weakness of our flesh that was the problem, not the Law.
      Christ addressed this by crucifying the flesh on Calvary, so that by faith in him we die, and are raised. All by faith. Now resurrected by the same spirit that rose Christ from the dead, not to sin but to grace. Life and holiness in the spirit. With all the fruit, meekness, temperance, gentinless, kindness, love, long-suffering, faith. It's cool because these absolutely cannot be brought about by effort, but by beholding the Lamb
      Something else cool I noticed in Abel, and really in shepherds in general
      The demeanor of a shepherd is essentially the embodiment of the fruit of the spirit
      The demeanor of Cain is that of endless work
      Christ has called us to rest, in him, by faith
      It's so amazing. God's word is truly unsearchable, joy unspeakable and full of glory
      Thankful for you brother, thanks for bringing clarity to the word of God

  • @NapalmBlitzkrieg
    @NapalmBlitzkrieg Před 6 měsíci +1

    Outstanding message with which I could not agree more. Thank you for laying this out so charitably and succinctly. Well done.

  • @inzamamhohua7061
    @inzamamhohua7061 Před 6 měsíci

    To judge a man that strives for nothing but good and truth - and then label him like you have any authority. Hypocrite.
    Your lord is working through him, open your eyes.

  • @EyreEver
    @EyreEver Před 6 měsíci

    ty

  • @Phoenix_Core
    @Phoenix_Core Před 6 měsíci

    What seminary did you go to? You clearly have never read the bible in Hebrew or the Koine Greek.
    We have a statement about people like this. "Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye do not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor diminish from it, to keep the commands of Jehovah your God which I am commanding you." and "Revelation 22:18-19 `For I testify to every one hearing the words of the prophecy of this scroll, if any one may add unto these, God shall add to him the plagues that have been written in this scroll,
    19 and if any one may take away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the scroll of the life, and out of the holy city, and the things that have been written in this scroll;'"

    • @Phoenix_Core
      @Phoenix_Core Před 6 měsíci

      @nathanporter3569 that is spelled out as obvious as its going to get.

  • @earthangel7253
    @earthangel7253 Před 6 měsíci

    Not going to watch based on the title alone

  • @santino348
    @santino348 Před 6 měsíci

    The problem is even men like Mr. Peterson have forgotten the poor. Hes at the Universitys and campuses but he does not lift a finger for the poor. He has all the answers but does he serve the poor as our Lord did.

    • @earthangel7253
      @earthangel7253 Před 6 měsíci

      What a Judas comment

    • @shadowtemple7426
      @shadowtemple7426 Před 6 měsíci

      I think thats kind of bs, pretty much anyone who wants to can access it for free.