We make a transparent gas-charged shock absorber for a Lada

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  • čas přidán 16. 10. 2023
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  • @rockyrivermushrooms529
    @rockyrivermushrooms529 Před 7 měsíci +149

    These guys are talented engineers

    • @FrozenHaxor
      @FrozenHaxor Před měsícem +1

      This is why soviets with slide rules achieved better results than Elon Musk today.

    • @fts3865
      @fts3865 Před 16 dny

      Nasdroviya

    • @upoupil4012
      @upoupil4012 Před 4 dny

      ​@@FrozenHaxorelon musk give us nothing.....

  • @-A-Hybrid-Skunk-Productions-
    @-A-Hybrid-Skunk-Productions- Před 7 měsíci +238

    That was sooooooo awesome. It is so friggin epic seeing how shocks works. Thanks soooo much for sharing this video with Us Garage 54.

    • @GrandePunto8V
      @GrandePunto8V Před 7 měsíci +9

      This is NOT how a shock works. They've just did a gas spring. Real shock has some valves in the piston. And are not completely filled with oil.

    • @4BillC
      @4BillC Před 7 měsíci +9

      It's close enough though!

    • @thatguyalex2835
      @thatguyalex2835 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Heck yeah bro, the device worked well, and Garage 54 did a great demo of how cars absorb bumps and stuff. It would be even more friggin' epic if they broke the glass piston itself. :) Imagine the oil spewing out out at 90 psi (6 bar) or whatever the air or oil pressure is. I'm a man, we like when stuff fails*, as long as it isn't our own. That would add to the "shock" value, pun intended.
      *Disclaimer: Only in televised series or YT videos.

    • @chiefdenis
      @chiefdenis Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@GrandePunto8Vbecause they didn't design an engineering marvel like koni does doesn't disqualify their item from being a shock absorber

    • @jayveevee
      @jayveevee Před 5 měsíci

      Npc

  • @randygandee9674
    @randygandee9674 Před 7 měsíci +83

    These guys hit a homer every now and then

    • @aech_two_oh
      @aech_two_oh Před 7 měsíci +12

      If you ask me, every now and then is every upload

  • @troysomething2097
    @troysomething2097 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I've never seen or heard of anyone using a mig welder to cut glass. Very cool and interesting

  • @i_woke_up_in_a_new_buggati
    @i_woke_up_in_a_new_buggati Před 7 měsíci +77

    They gotta make a transparent Lada with all the other parts they made so far. It'll be like that transparent Honda s2000!

    • @lokelaufeyson9931
      @lokelaufeyson9931 Před 7 měsíci +9

      they are close to do it, only a few parts that need to be solved

    • @MrBanaanipommi
      @MrBanaanipommi Před 7 měsíci +6

      i wish for transparent distributor cap, i saw one for toyota corolla 4k engine in ebay once but not anymore... it was not cheap tho...

    • @garycarpenter2932
      @garycarpenter2932 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@lokelaufeyson9931 the engine block they did wasn't 107%.. too bad too.

    • @fryloc359
      @fryloc359 Před 7 měsíci

      ​​@@MrBanaanipommithey did one, but I don't knnow if it's on the english channel or not. :edit: it's here. it was 8 months ago.

    • @MrBanaanipommi
      @MrBanaanipommi Před 7 měsíci

      @@fryloc359 forgot that lol, but i actually meant one to buy ;D

  • @user-gw8xb6zx9l
    @user-gw8xb6zx9l Před 7 měsíci +48

    You guys are the greatest it gives people with no mechanical background an insight to how these things work. Its also fantastic experience for the young mechanics ,they are terrific. Keep up the good work and warmest greatings to you all from Melbourne Australia.

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke Před 7 měsíci +104

    The air gap solution is basically like the spheres in Citroen hydraulic suspension (or the British Leyland Hydragas suspension), but there's an experiment for you, DIY hydraulic suspension, whether like the Citroen hydraulic system where you can raise and lower the car, or BL's Hydragas "set & forget" setup, retrofitting them to something that lives its' life on coil or leafsprings would be a fun test to see the difference... :P

    • @Cheeky-Biscuit
      @Cheeky-Biscuit Před 7 měsíci +5

      Sorry if this sounds ignorant but couldn't they solve the pocket issue by turning it upside down and allowing the air to flow upwards?

    • @twocvbloke
      @twocvbloke Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@Cheeky-Biscuit They probably could have, but as with all things experimental, it was never going to be a perfect design, plus they were trying to keep the oil as air free as possible so that it looked good on camera being all clear, thus separating the two sections... :)

    • @Cheeky-Biscuit
      @Cheeky-Biscuit Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@twocvbloke fair enough thanks for the explanation

    • @MrtalentedReid
      @MrtalentedReid Před 7 měsíci +1

      Amazing

    • @Phos9
      @Phos9 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@Cheeky-Biscuit The rod changes the volume inside the main cylinder so that wouldn't work. Their solution is how some normal shocks work. Cheaper shocks will sometimes just allow an air pocket within the shock. Expensive shocks have an extra little reservoir to contain the pressurized gas.

  • @epictoast6727
    @epictoast6727 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I had my safety squints on the whole time

  • @bill6255
    @bill6255 Před 7 měsíci +22

    Yet another amazing video! Bonus point IMHO for being thorough with the foaming issue! Such easy knowledge transfer.

    • @kleetus92
      @kleetus92 Před 7 měsíci +1

      You're welcome! I peppered the last video a bunch with gas charging

  • @dimitar4y
    @dimitar4y Před 7 měsíci +7

    AYO that mig welder hack is out of this world, why didn't I think of that?!

    • @dimitar4y
      @dimitar4y Před měsícem

      @@antonszvezdovs ouch. At least it got cauterized?

  • @JordonRenn93
    @JordonRenn93 Před 7 měsíci +17

    As someone who builds aftermarket shocks for a living, I appreciate this video so much 😂😂😂❤❤❤
    Edit: @7:30 the term for that is "cavitation" and can happen even when no air is present. When the air rushes through the piston, it created areas of extremely low pressure along the trailing edge of the holes. It's such low pressure that it makes the fluid turn to it's gas form.

  • @rockerforlife194
    @rockerforlife194 Před 7 měsíci +17

    You guys are GREAT!
    And funny.
    Love your channel from here in Missouri, United States.
    Keep up the great work!

  • @jasonbirch1182
    @jasonbirch1182 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Very cool. The shaft displacing oil is an aspect I wouldn't have considered. Now I know why the small diaphragm was necessary in the RC car shocks we built back when I was younger. And also I understand why more air pressure stiffens the forks on a dirt bike. I couldn't understand it before, since the air isn't acting on the shock piston with a bypass hole in it. The air disapating in the oil is cavitation.

    • @Christophe_L
      @Christophe_L Před 6 měsíci

      Dirt bikes have air springs which indeed are acting on the stanchions. This is not the same setup, the springs on this car you can see behind the shock.
      EDIT: i am an idiot motorcycles dont usually use airsprings.

    • @jasonbirch1182
      @jasonbirch1182 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Christophe_L no. They have coil springs in the front forks. The increase in pressure is reducing cavitation to stifen damping. It doesn't raise ride height like Increasing spring rate would.

    • @Christophe_L
      @Christophe_L Před 6 měsíci

      @@jasonbirch1182 While a lot of road bikes have coil springs, most dirt bikes have airsprung forks. But it could be the case that your bike in particular had a coil fork in which case I fucked up :)
      EDIT: nope, motorcycles dont usually use airsprings.

    • @jasonbirch1182
      @jasonbirch1182 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Christophe_L I'm not aware of any air sprung forks. The newest set I have is off a 200(?) yzf426 so maybe some newer bikes are, but I don't think that you are correct.
      Edit.
      After doing some quick research, you are not correct. There are some air sprung forks available but not factory stuff. It's experimental high end race motorcross damper builders trying air. They aren't practical for many reasons. Leaks, condensation from refilling with moist air. Heat rapidly affecting pressure. Non linear spring rate as compression increases. Springs are great. They just are a little heavy. So they keep trying to make air work.

    • @Christophe_L
      @Christophe_L Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@jasonbirch1182 You are indeed correct and I apologise and self-flagelate profusely. I will edit my comments to reflect this. I was going by my MTB knowledge (where air forks have become more prevalent than coilsprung ones), and knowledge passed on from not very trustworthy sources plus lazy googling. I apologise again!!

  • @joeyf504327
    @joeyf504327 Před 7 měsíci +16

    how hot did the shock get? Shocks work by converting linear motion into heat to dispense the energy of the shocks.

    • @GrandePunto8V
      @GrandePunto8V Před 7 měsíci +1

      But they have just did a gas spring. Real shock has some valves in the piston, oil is pumped via orifice (there is your source of heating). And almost 100% fill is a mistake.

    • @brandonjones4666
      @brandonjones4666 Před 29 dny +1

      That’s now how shocks work.. heat is a an unwanted byproduct. Watch the video again to see how shocks work.

  • @taylorgarcia5246
    @taylorgarcia5246 Před 9 dny +1

    This is exactly how an IFP (internal floating piston) shock works except that there are flexible washers/ shims in the main piston that also control oil flow for compression and rebound. The fluid cavitation doesn’t allow the shock to dampen as well so nitrogen pressure is added to the IFP chamber and the result is very well portrayed in this video. Excellent job and video!

  • @bendoherty7721
    @bendoherty7721 Před měsícem +3

    Using the mig wire got a like straight away. Awesome idea

  • @simonallan9941
    @simonallan9941 Před 7 měsíci +5

    It really needs a one way valve with the biggest hole in the piston letting it move downwards easier than upward.

  • @NotProFishing
    @NotProFishing Před 7 měsíci +2

    That mig gun to cut the tube worked better than I could have imagined

  • @largebills337
    @largebills337 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Excellent work. I am very impressed. I would love to see four of those on a lifted offroad vehicle. Now that I have seen such good results I am sure this type of setup could work on a rock crawler type of vehicle. A high speed offroad vehicle such as one that might be used in the Paris Dakar rally might be too much but the cool factor would be out of this world. Great job fellas 😎👍

  • @RandysRides
    @RandysRides Před 7 měsíci +7

    This was a really cool episode. Ingenuitive and informative. :)

  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 Před 7 dny

    15:08 Impressive! The bottom end even moves apart from the upper part, impressive!

  • @seanreber9064
    @seanreber9064 Před 7 měsíci +3

    man the sound track for this one was fantastic

  • @vinicius9670
    @vinicius9670 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Great episode! Now the next step is to make a dual tube shock absorber!

  • @nurnebensaechlich
    @nurnebensaechlich Před 6 dny

    The glass cutting is flippin awsome so simple but genius

  • @fuse8052
    @fuse8052 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Excellent video. Saw things I'd never have thought about or believed. I look forward to your next video. Keep them coming guys.

  • @Andy-df5fj
    @Andy-df5fj Před 2 dny

    You can compensate for the rod area by making the piston equal area which means making the rod go through both end caps instead of just one.

  • @txwombat7826
    @txwombat7826 Před 7 měsíci +2

    ingenious way of cutting the tube.

  • @HChandler2010
    @HChandler2010 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The cavitation in the top is neat

  • @raymondsprengelmeyer1278
    @raymondsprengelmeyer1278 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I enjoy your videos very much, you really have some skilled people at Garage 54!

  • @the0leman
    @the0leman Před 6 měsíci

    This is how a front strut on most aircraft work. I like what these guys do, thinking outside the box without losing the box.

  • @lesklower7281
    @lesklower7281 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Well done again love this transparent experiments on various functions on a car keep them coming

  • @J.O._Explores
    @J.O._Explores Před 7 měsíci

    What a great experiment! One of the best so far! Keep the good work up!

  • @sethvandyke4453
    @sethvandyke4453 Před 7 měsíci +2

    so cool how you engineered around the air problem

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 Před 7 měsíci

    Great video! It was much stronger than I expected.

  • @therobb5738
    @therobb5738 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I would've taken some hose clamps or zip-ties and lined the tube every couple inches or so with it. Not so tight to disrupt the inner shock, but enough to support the pressure in the tube. Otherwise, this is fantastic and I love seeing this work. I thought the gas buffer at the bottom added a nice, high-performance touch. And the guy riding in the trunk, had the BEST seat in the car!

    • @TranceFur
      @TranceFur Před 7 měsíci +1

      Looks like the glass tube didn’t need any support, so the zip ties would be completely unnecessary.

  • @Workerbee-zy5nx
    @Workerbee-zy5nx Před 7 měsíci +2

    Cool video, see through shocks are interesting.

  • @plupyduplupydu1369
    @plupyduplupydu1369 Před měsícem

    Unbeliveveable-what did you just do-pushing it to the limit one more time- even more props to translator

  • @chrisstratton3430
    @chrisstratton3430 Před měsícem

    Outstanding work!

  • @kentworch
    @kentworch Před 7 měsíci

    Very nice. Awesome to see the inside of these in action.👍👍

  • @mikebarry8431
    @mikebarry8431 Před 4 měsíci

    Just started following you guys, love the channel and the cool stuff built! Keep up the great work.

  • @alexcorrea8855
    @alexcorrea8855 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I always love watching these!!! So interesting the things that are thought up, and then you get to see it in action, that’s really cool love these!!!! Thank you for the time and info!!!

    • @alexcorrea8855
      @alexcorrea8855 Před 7 měsíci

      Matter fact, I’m so inspired, I’m going to try this on my wife’s car, lol!!!

  • @KT_One
    @KT_One Před měsícem

    Please build four of these, in steel, and give it a test. The large volume dampers seem great!

  • @davidbrennan5
    @davidbrennan5 Před 7 měsíci

    This channel is great, I love the backyard engineering.

  • @user-kh2yl6nn3l
    @user-kh2yl6nn3l Před 7 měsíci

    Absolutely a 107% success Vlad . Because those of us that aren't shock designers learned something about shock absorber technology here . This was a real scientific experiment . Good job guys . :)

  • @trenthollifield6969
    @trenthollifield6969 Před 7 měsíci

    This channel is worth its time in gold thanks for all the hard work for us

  • @reedstemen
    @reedstemen Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you for this awesome content, I’m happy you guys can keep this show going given how the world is.

  • @TrueBlueEG8
    @TrueBlueEG8 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I want some G54 shocks right now🤣

  • @nickrudd2568
    @nickrudd2568 Před 7 měsíci

    That has to be one of the coolest things ive seen through. Top job my friends.

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 Před 7 měsíci

    Good job guys! Awesome video.

  • @Corn-Pop.
    @Corn-Pop. Před 7 měsíci +1

    the guys working for him doing this stuff are going to have a very interesting resume

  • @cengizhanyildirim8380
    @cengizhanyildirim8380 Před 6 měsíci

    This channel is so underrated. I honestly rarely comment and like any videos but this channel always deserves it. Thanks guys.

  • @sachak
    @sachak Před 6 měsíci

    fokkit that was epic! DAMN. And such a cool colour for the oil. Well done guys.

  • @gristlevonraben
    @gristlevonraben Před 7 měsíci +1

    i agree with others here, very awesome to see indise of a shock that is moving! thank you!

    • @GrandePunto8V
      @GrandePunto8V Před 7 měsíci

      OK, but this was just a gas spring (not proper shock absorber).

  • @MezzysAutomotive
    @MezzysAutomotive Před 6 měsíci

    Ever since i showed my automotive tech teacher these videos.. we implemented these videos in the program

  • @StarlightCipher
    @StarlightCipher Před 7 měsíci

    That was super cool and informative

  • @ILOVEBACONBOY2018
    @ILOVEBACONBOY2018 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Gosh you make quality content, I thank you!

  • @SebastianLong
    @SebastianLong Před 7 měsíci +1

    Easiest way to purge the fluid from the shock was to put a bleeder such as a zerk fitting (grease fitting) onto the shock. Would have released the air as well as the extra fluid.

  • @gregsantos9731
    @gregsantos9731 Před 10 dny

    Wow! I think you have made another innovation to an auto industry, my first and only worry is if in case that glass tubing would be hit by a fast moving stone or anything solid like a nut or screws that are made of steel. Hmm. Maybe a wrapping of chicken wire with a clearance of about an inch from the glass tube would do the trick.

  • @FijiLaw
    @FijiLaw Před 7 měsíci

    Another mind blowing vid, hats off to you vlad 🫡

  • @raulbermudez893
    @raulbermudez893 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Genius level stuff using a welding machine to cut the glass 😮

  • @wtmf80
    @wtmf80 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This one was awesome!

  • @electroman1556
    @electroman1556 Před 6 měsíci

    that's why i love this channel! no one can beat this channel more amazing ideas!

  • @MichaelThomas-wb2xu
    @MichaelThomas-wb2xu Před 7 měsíci +1

    Another great interesting show! Thanks for the view of a shock's working innards. An extra seal silicon-ed in at the top would get rid of that air pocket.!

    • @GrandePunto8V
      @GrandePunto8V Před 7 měsíci

      But...they've just did a gas spring. Real shock has some valves in the piston!

  • @zeendaniels5809
    @zeendaniels5809 Před 27 dny

    Ladas sure are fun, huh?
    Excellent video.

  • @montey1017
    @montey1017 Před 7 měsíci

    Machining that piece of flat steel into the cylinder caps was great lol. Love the content.

  • @chnapo1
    @chnapo1 Před 6 měsíci

    This channel is incredible!

  • @busyguy7479
    @busyguy7479 Před 7 měsíci

    well guys you all did it again with this idea. not only was this fun it is functional as well good job . well thought out guys.

  • @vaux_wolf4281
    @vaux_wolf4281 Před 7 měsíci

    These guys are ridiculously talented

  • @mizzomentall
    @mizzomentall Před 7 měsíci

    Sick Channel G54. I finally know how it works

  • @ronbradshaw7404
    @ronbradshaw7404 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Very interresting!. I thought the floating piston would have had more stroke tho!. What you did is a "De-Carbon" shock principle. They inflate the secondary chamber with Nitrogen tho, to keep the pressure more stable with temperature. The air that mysteriously appears is in fact Cavitation. It is BAD for a steady dampening action.

  • @Roger-hq1yt
    @Roger-hq1yt Před 7 měsíci +1

    Nice, one of the more practical experiments youve done.

  • @androzetga1916
    @androzetga1916 Před 19 dny +1

    Incredible empirical science❤

  • @user-lh1vc9kk4e
    @user-lh1vc9kk4e Před 18 dny

    The temperature of the shock oil is also an important part to observe the energy.

  • @rastaralph7154
    @rastaralph7154 Před 7 měsíci +3

    It would be interesting to see all the shock's like that one and test it with speed and hard cornering and braking to see if it's better than conventional shocks.👍💚💛❤️

  • @AlfinoFr
    @AlfinoFr Před 7 měsíci

    Amazing to see the oil on the top chamber ”boils” during compression.

  • @skyler9988
    @skyler9988 Před 7 měsíci

    That glass cutting is genius

  • @Bourinos02
    @Bourinos02 Před 6 měsíci

    21:04 Now I can say that I've finally seen oil cavitating :D
    Thanks so much!

  • @garagecedric
    @garagecedric Před 7 měsíci

    Great visualisation of damper cavitation !

  • @daveski4496
    @daveski4496 Před 7 měsíci

    True science in the works. Love it!

  • @RitaElaineHeltonBarker-uz4sz
    @RitaElaineHeltonBarker-uz4sz Před 7 měsíci +2

    You guys should try to set an official Guinness World Record utilizing all your transparent modifications on one car? For the most transparent Classic Car Built

  • @volvo09
    @volvo09 Před 7 měsíci

    That shock came out great, good work!

    • @GrandePunto8V
      @GrandePunto8V Před 7 měsíci

      Where's the "shock"? This is gas spring mostly.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@GrandePunto8V the plastic disc on the end of the rod... it has holes drilled in it that let the oil flow through.
      It's a shock absorber.
      If it was a gas spring there would only be one piston, and it would be all air.

  • @MathieuTechMoto
    @MathieuTechMoto Před 7 měsíci

    Sooo very good as always !

  • @Aaron_Voltz
    @Aaron_Voltz Před 7 měsíci +2

    You guys should try to recreate Bose's suspension. It's basically a linear electric motor instead of springs and shock absorbers.

  • @htrawa
    @htrawa Před 5 měsíci

    the foaming you can observe in short instances while the shock is compressing is not air. It is vacuum bubbles cavetating. Explanation:
    While compressing at higher speed the orifice in the plunger makes so much resistance that instead of keeping up the flowrate for the movement, the air camber is compressed. While this happens the increase of volume in the upper chamber is more then the volume of the oil entering, developing a strong vacuum. The missing volume is filled up with vacuum bubbles, and the disappear they instance the vacuum disappears.

  • @sgottoboni
    @sgottoboni Před 7 měsíci

    Awesome experiment.👍

  • @rotorblade9508
    @rotorblade9508 Před měsícem

    nice setup. the air can also have a spring effect

  • @mybackhurts7020
    @mybackhurts7020 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Glass shocks would be really cool for car shows😅

  • @Hydrogenblonde
    @Hydrogenblonde Před 7 měsíci

    Great video !

  • @maxiflow8695
    @maxiflow8695 Před 6 měsíci

    Son increibles, muchachos!!!! excelente trabajo!!!

  • @gacherumburu9958
    @gacherumburu9958 Před 7 měsíci

    Great experiment! 👍👍

  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 Před 7 dny

    INSANELY AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @colinstu
    @colinstu Před 7 měsíci +1

    7:25 cavitate / cavitation is the word

  • @mariantaskov2
    @mariantaskov2 Před měsícem

    Foaming = Cavitation
    The second piston is known as IFP.
    The IFP should be backed up with high pressure. Usually the chamber is filled with Nitrogen gas.
    To purge/ bleed all the bubles out of the oil u should put an connical hole at the top of the plate, than u have to purge the air out of the system and than put an connical end screw in the bleed hole.
    And yes, the system was cavitating on peak bumps even with the IFP being "inflated". Thats cuz the pressure was not enough and there was a small bit of air inside the upper chamber.
    Please don't consider that as hate!
    Great entartaining videos!
    Keep up the good work.

  • @bobbofly
    @bobbofly Před 7 měsíci +2

    It still worked & all, but shouldn't the air/compensation chamber be at the top? Just to keep things separate, I mean? ❓

  • @mooklocklear1182
    @mooklocklear1182 Před 6 měsíci +1

    That was pretty darn kool

  • @nonameavailable7914
    @nonameavailable7914 Před 7 měsíci

    Awesome great content guys keep it up

  • @danangretno99
    @danangretno99 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Maann I love this channel. This channel helping me so much than my teacher 😂😂

  • @marcoandressalcedoherrera7938

    Great video

  • @hollandibolygo9172
    @hollandibolygo9172 Před 7 měsíci +1

    a valve spring from a Lada engine, or something similar you should put in the compensating chamber

  • @Brebeanualexcatalin
    @Brebeanualexcatalin Před 12 dny

    This was soooo satisfiyng!