The Nuclear Rockets That Could Get Us To Mars And Beyond | Answers With Joe

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    As we set our sights on crewed Mars missions, we're going to have to consider some next-level rocket engines. One idea with a lot of potential is nuclear thermal propulsion.
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  • @diogocarreira5079
    @diogocarreira5079 Před 4 lety +279

    I'm 37 and it still irks me that I got a C minus for my seventh grade science fair project, because a nuclear powered space ship was "too unrealistic". This was before google and my family didn't have internet or get a computer for a few more years. I had to actually research that at the library, looking for newspaper articles, magazines and all of the single one non-fiction book that the library had that mentioned a nuclear powered space ship.

    • @johnstoncrawford2326
      @johnstoncrawford2326 Před 4 lety +20

      Wow thats too bad. Funny tjing is NAS and JPL Experimented w nuclear engines back in the 60''s and had working ptoyotypes..

    • @jjdogg0
      @jjdogg0 Před 4 lety +2

      @@johnstoncrawford2326 but could God create such a powerful nuke that even himself couldn't survive the fallout of?

    • @albertjackinson
      @albertjackinson Před 4 lety +16

      @@jjdogg0 What does this have to do with God?

    • @vaishakm6
      @vaishakm6 Před 4 lety +24

      this is why schools kills creativity

    • @albertjackinson
      @albertjackinson Před 4 lety +7

      @@vaishakm6 It really depends on the teacher. I have a math teacher who used to do the math for orbital trajectories for NASA. And he actively encourages my idea to build a small solid-fuel rocket. Same with my former science teacher. He encourages my more far-out conceptual ideas.
      So it really depends on the environment and people you are exposed to. So it's incorrect to apply generalizations in this case.

  • @matrick1356
    @matrick1356 Před 4 lety +238

    in space we thrust?
    more like
    IN THRUST, WE TRUST

    • @surfside75
      @surfside75 Před 4 lety +1

      No thrust in a vacuum🤦 but, I digress😐

    • @joescott
      @joescott  Před 4 lety +33

      Say that 10 times fast

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata Před 4 lety +16

      @@surfside75 Of course there is. Newton's 3rd law works anywhere.

    • @albertjackinson
      @albertjackinson Před 4 lety +2

      @@joescott Definitely! How about you try saying that ("In thrust, we trust") ten times fast in the next video? It's just a thought, by the way. You don't have to comply.

    • @squirlmy
      @squirlmy Před 4 lety +3

      That belongs on a bumper sticker right beneath "If the van is a rockin', don't come a knockin'"

  • @csdn4483
    @csdn4483 Před 4 lety +115

    7:55 - Joe, that was a destruction test, it was done purposefully just to see how much power the engine could produce. Also, the NRX A6 was called "Kiwi" because it was a flightless bird. My source - one of my professors (Robert Seale) worked on Kiwi, the test engine for NERVA. He noted that when they did the destruction test, Kiwi was producing so much power that it was literally shaking itself apart and was spitting fuel rods out the nozzle. So, it was destroyed on purpose.

    • @cassgraham7058
      @cassgraham7058 Před 4 lety +28

      Kiwi was a set of experimental reactors, the A1-A3 and B1-B4E. The NRX series were developmental reactors, based on the B4D. They culminated in the XE-Prime test in 1972, which was a flight configuration test. They did some more tests on just the fuel elements after (Pewee and the Nuclear Furnace), but the configuration was good so they went the cheaper route with reusable (and cleaner) test reactors until 1974.

    • @joescott
      @joescott  Před 4 lety +26

      Great info, both of you. Thanks!

    • @cassgraham7058
      @cassgraham7058 Před 4 lety +6

      @@joescottI loved the video, if you wanna explore the subject more, HMU. I literally live for this stuff.

    • @PalimpsestProd
      @PalimpsestProd Před 4 lety +3

      @@joescott Yeah, what Joe said!

    • @rpbajb
      @rpbajb Před 4 lety +1

      Second the motion.

  • @roxjeruben
    @roxjeruben Před 4 lety +442

    "Zoom zoom juice"

    • @enthusia492
      @enthusia492 Před 4 lety +10

      ©Mazda 2019

    • @Gooberpatrol66
      @Gooberpatrol66 Před 4 lety +30

      For my boom-boom machine

    • @waylontmccann
      @waylontmccann Před 4 lety +17

      Zoom zoom juice
      Hook it up to my boom
      We can rocket all night
      Alpha Centari in sight

    • @berthert3598
      @berthert3598 Před 4 lety +5

      It's a scientific term.

    • @1_2_die2
      @1_2_die2 Před 4 lety

      I guess Tim & Scott didn't saw that one coming.

  • @vickas54
    @vickas54 Před 4 lety +15

    7:29 fuel is what produces energy in an engine or motor, what you mean is "propellant". In a chemical rocket, there is fuel and oxidizer, which combine and prodce propellant (exhaust gases) that contains the energy produced by combustion.
    In a nuclear thermal rocket, Uranium-235 (usually) is the fuel, its reaction produces heat energy which is transferred to the propellant (usually hydrogen). Not that I'm pedantic or anything ;)

  • @AbnoCreations
    @AbnoCreations Před 4 lety +52

    Not a lot of youtubers who I like to regularly watch first thing when I wake up with my coffee. But you are one of them for sure, Joe. Keep up the great work.

    • @joescott
      @joescott  Před 4 lety +9

      Thanks man!

    • @kontribute2795
      @kontribute2795 Před 4 lety +3

      Answers with Joe and a cup of Joe, perfect morning combo.

  • @jamesbaxter7227
    @jamesbaxter7227 Před 4 lety +25

    10:57 "People haven't liked the idea of sending radioactive material up into space." Sending radioactive material.....into a void of cosmic radiation and the domain of nuclear powered stars..........

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata Před 4 lety +16

      It's less about the void and more about the atmosphere just above us if something explodes right after launch.

  • @alentrav
    @alentrav Před 4 lety +9

    This morning I watched "Ask Joe" #1 - 24 during my morning jog. The show has come so far! Anyone who hasn't gone back to see the early stuff I highly recommend it! It's adorable and hilarious

  • @hyperraptor5484
    @hyperraptor5484 Před 4 lety +6

    Hi Joe! As you were talking about getting up to 10% of lightspeed, wouldn´t it be cool with an episode on how to brake in space? What options do we have to decelerate a space ship when we get to Moon or Mars? Keep up the good work!!

    • @tylerj.6973
      @tylerj.6973 Před rokem

      Acceleration is the same wether you are accelerating in the forward direction to speed up or in the backward direction to slow down. So our options to decelerate are identical to our options to accelerate. In other words there is no magical way to "brake" in space

  • @theCodyReeder
    @theCodyReeder Před 4 lety +147

    Weird. the video started midway through as if I had started watching it already though I just turned on CZcams after a several hour break and the video was published minutes ago.

    • @likebot.
      @likebot. Před 4 lety +11

      Are you watching on a touch-screen unit? My laptop has "touch" and sometimes the screen acts like I randomly tapped a spot, sometimes advancing or rewinding. Other times it annoys me by closing my browser.

    • @desertratnt-7849
      @desertratnt-7849 Před 4 lety +26

      Cody'sLab quatam entanglement
      ✌️

    • @RED5AND
      @RED5AND Před 4 lety +1

      Sounds a bit sus

    • @Gooberpatrol66
      @Gooberpatrol66 Před 4 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/hAAlDoAtV7Y/video.html

    • @RED5AND
      @RED5AND Před 4 lety +1

      If that happened to me I'll investigate a small amount

  • @TheExoplanetsChannel
    @TheExoplanetsChannel Před 4 lety +30

    Amazing video. There is a fusion rocket that might achieve *20% the speed of light.* Mind-blowing!

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes mind blowingly slow.

    • @Liner_404
      @Liner_404 Před 4 lety +10

      @@michaeldawson6309 I don't think you realise how fast light is

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Liner_404 Actually I think I might have an idea being a communications engineer. Yes its pretty dam slow. 3x10^8ms/s in a vacuum which in galactic terms is a snails pace. Do you want to communicate with your friends on Mars? well due to the really slow induction of light thru the medium its way too slow for any meaningful communication and it only gets worse as we go further away. Come on you don't believe really that the speed quoted for light is the maximum speed we will be able to communicate in the future do you. With our very limited understanding of what matter and even electromagnetic spectrum actually is and how electromagnetic propagation works from first principles, which we don't in the mainstream. Even the boffins say that they can only explain about 4% of what's actually going on. Light speed is the rate of induction thru the medium between two points we all agree on that I hope. What the medium is, is still up for debate. However a transverse wave (of the medium) propagation has a finite velocity or rate of induction (thru the medium). Scalar or a longitudinal interaction with the medium is for all intents and purposes instant. Tesla was actually correct in his understanding of the nature of the Universe opposed to Einstien IMO and were all allowed an opinion. But that's mine. Also the speed of light for sure is not the fastest form of communication we will develop I would say I am 100% convinced of that.
      Way back in the 1800's the Red Indians used smoke signals now they have mobile phones guess what there must be less Indians because when I look for smoke signals there are none. I wonder if that's why SETI has not discovered any intelligent advanced life and here I mean more advanced than us.. Answer they don't use slow electromagnetic transverse waves to communicate which have the limitation of the same slow rate of induction we dumb people refer to as the speed of light. However back to the 20% of light is slow, comment. It is slow very slow for any space faring civilization just like light is slow for the purposes of communication over long distances.

    • @michaeldawson6309
      @michaeldawson6309 Před 4 lety

      Here's a good description that makes a lot of sense as to what light is and why it has a maximum velocity of propagation.
      czcams.com/video/dd6IsYLCOZc/video.html
      It makes more sense to me than any written text available in academic circles.
      This is why i say interacting with the medium transversally is not the most efficient method. We just have not discovered mainstream how to improve our interaction. Time will tell.

    • @Cythil
      @Cythil Před 4 lety +4

      @@michaeldawson6309 Well it is all retaliative. if you could manage to do 20% of speed of light for the full journey to Alpha Centauri then you down to less then a lifetime to get there which make colonizing plausible. Of course there is a lot more to it. I am sure some people would sign up for a generation ship. And we will likely have radical life extension within a generation. Heck the first gen of "immortals" may already be born. And so even a several hundred year journey might not seem to extreme. But everything would still be dreadfully slow by our standard.
      There are not a lot of theoretical devices that could beat 20%. I have heard that Kugelblitz and pure Anti-matter matter propulsion could get you close about 50% before the medium of space start make it hard to push further. Laser sails could offer a very high speed to but has it limits. That is about it if you do not go in to the realm of hypothetical space bending drives like the Alcubierre warp drive or worm holes. Both those methods being questionable if they would work (And if they do you might also have build a potential time machine.)

  • @earloflemongrab1290
    @earloflemongrab1290 Před 2 lety +1

    Please, and I cannot stress that part enough, PLEASE make a video about the Wild West of Nuclear Projects in the '50s & '60s, we ALL need that video

  • @nickfifteen
    @nickfifteen Před 4 lety +38

    So THAT'S where Star Trek got the name for their "impulse engines"!

    • @alpheusmadsen8485
      @alpheusmadsen8485 Před 3 lety +1

      It's also possible the technology got the name from Star Trek. Technology and fiction often feed off each other that way!
      (I initially said "either that", but then realized that sometimes a third thing happens: they both independently come up with the same name, because they are trying to describe similar, or sometimes even not-so-similar, things.)

  • @Aieieo
    @Aieieo Před 4 lety +170

    Freeman Dyson: the sphere guy.

    • @joescott
      @joescott  Před 4 lety +16

      It gets the idea across.

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata Před 4 lety +4

      @Ross Meldrum Yes, although the major part of the invention was the way the cyclonic suction worked, not the ball contraption. Fun fact, for such a brilliant guy, he's also a climate change denier.

    • @zapfanzapfan
      @zapfanzapfan Před 4 lety +2

      The Vacuum cleaner is another Dyson, not Freeman.

    • @y.shaked5152
      @y.shaked5152 Před 4 lety +2

      @@joescott I'm entirely cool with "the sphere guy."

    • @martiddy
      @martiddy Před 4 lety +1

      I thought it was Freeman, the scientist who fight against aliens and soldiers.

  • @holzner7
    @holzner7 Před 4 lety +6

    Hello Joe! Love your videos! Some days ago you were talking about all the good stuff we got here on earth from space-development, would love to see a video about that!
    Greetings from Italy.

  • @keithgunn-glanville7829
    @keithgunn-glanville7829 Před 4 lety +1

    My grandfather Dr Stanly V Gunn (ret) of the JPL and also the NASA director of special projects for Apollo 11,13 and a few others. His team built the F 1 rocket propulsion system for the Saturn V missions. Did extensive work on nuclear rockets. He’s in the other room right now. 97 years young.

  • @y.shaked5152
    @y.shaked5152 Před 4 lety +4

    1:50 - That was very specific.

  • @Dickie72002
    @Dickie72002 Před 4 lety +3

    “The old boom boom machine” haha. Awesome.

  • @sunsaverfromnhh9184
    @sunsaverfromnhh9184 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for all the hard work you do, and for the prolific videos: yours is my favorite comedy/science channel on CZcams. I think "curiositystream" looks awesome and is prolly well worth it for this service of quality, fact-based-yet-entertaining, science content. Thanks for the link to a free trial.

  • @shadowman7408
    @shadowman7408 Před 4 lety

    Hi Joe love the channel, its getting me through one of the hardest times of my life. Even grew to have a routine of watching while i make dinner. Anyways, I was wondering if you could do a video on Loop quantum gravity, I'd like your take on it. Thanks a million and keep up the good work!

  • @thedamnyankee1
    @thedamnyankee1 Před 4 lety +5

    "the first rockets where made to deliver Nuclear warheads" *ANGER IN V2*

  • @alicemoffat
    @alicemoffat Před 4 lety +123

    I’m now going to use zoom zoom juice every time I’m talking about rocket fuel.

    • @dashpig1
      @dashpig1 Před 4 lety +4

      Not only about rockets!

    • @jayknight139
      @jayknight139 Před 4 lety +3

      Agreed. Easy to say and it gets the point across in a simple way.

    • @jjohnston94
      @jjohnston94 Před 4 lety +4

      I prefer the more scientific term "motion lotion".

    • @Bacopa68
      @Bacopa68 Před 4 lety +1

      It will take a lot of zoom zoom juice to get to Jup-a-jup.

    • @bradlemmond
      @bradlemmond Před 4 lety +1

      @@Bacopa68 I see you are a person of taste and sophistication as well.

  • @wearewyldstallynz
    @wearewyldstallynz Před 4 lety +2

    The Direct Fusion Drive being developed at the Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory seems to be advancing well.

  • @evanbolz423
    @evanbolz423 Před rokem

    Hey man I love your videos, love how they combine humor and learning!!! Have you ever heard of the center of the universe in Tulsa Oklahoma? I think it might make a good video for you

  • @BrandonCase
    @BrandonCase Před 4 lety +12

    Literally no reason for an Orion spacecraft to go “nose first” into an explosion: they would simply rotate the craft 180 degrees and fire normally to slow down.

    • @LoneStarr1979
      @LoneStarr1979 Před 4 lety +5

      yeah... this is what he meant: -while decelerating you have to go through your own nuclear blasts.- If you use this drive to land, you end up landing in nuclear explosions.
      I just wondered, wether it was really considered to use an Orion drive for landing. Launching with it (as the means of propulsion) sounds already ridiculous enough to me.
      Edit: noticed I fell for a falacy @deceleration

    • @BrandonCase
      @BrandonCase Před 4 lety +2

      LoneStarr1979 - I’m not sure the direction of travel would contribute much additional stress on the ship: the propulsion/shield platform already protects the ship from the blast, which propagates far more quickly than you’re traveling, and both the explosion and ship are within the same inertial frame.

    • @LoneStarr1979
      @LoneStarr1979 Před 4 lety +2

      @@BrandonCase I just thought a second time about this ... in space there is no difference between acceleration and deceleration... my fault. (at least as long as you are not aproaching relativistic speeds...)
      But the issue with landing (which was the one Joe talked about) remains: You land in your own braking-wasteland... as *most* places where you perform a landing have something like a ground which can be contamined.

    • @Cythil
      @Cythil Před 4 lety +4

      As far as I understand is not intend to land. But you would have smaller crafts that do the landing if you need to. Trying to land it using nuclear proportional would likely not have work out well. But the biggest version that was envisioned would easily be able carry the need landing crafts. After all the hard part is actually getting in to space.
      The really crazy thing is actually lunching it since that actually means detonating nuclear blasts under it in atmo. Now apparently the fallout would not be a super huge deal compare to all other nuclear tests and such. The Scientist behind it did actually worry about this and did a lot of calculations on acceptable cancer risk as such and compared it to other human endeavours. But still pretty darn crazy.

    • @Giulliss
      @Giulliss Před 4 lety +1

      @@Cythil the orion spaceship could be built and assembled in space. So the nuclear explosions were ouutside our atmosphere. It would ferry people to other worlds but never land or contact the worlds.

  • @SukacitaYeremia
    @SukacitaYeremia Před 4 lety +89

    "Nerva project"
    we were that close....

    • @zevkurtzman8108
      @zevkurtzman8108 Před 4 lety +5

      Is this an eva reference

    • @stardolphin2
      @stardolphin2 Před 4 lety +8

      @@zevkurtzman8108 NERVA = Nuclear Engine for Rocket Vehicle Application (also Roman emperor Marcus Cocceius Nerva)
      We were indeed only a few years from a flyable engine, but we stopped work on it, because we stopped work on any of the programs (nuclear shuttle between LEO and Lunar orbit, Mars missions) that could use it.

    • @calvingreene90
      @calvingreene90 Před 4 lety +1

      Just if the Russians landed on the moon on the same day as us.
      Yes, I am American.

    • @SukacitaYeremia
      @SukacitaYeremia Před 4 lety +5

      @@stardolphin2 It is an Eva reference, but thanks anyway!

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Před 4 lety

      @@stardolphin2 yup, it seems we lost our nerva (and funding) for further deep space travel, after the Apollo moon landings! ; )

  • @acejames7718
    @acejames7718 Před 4 lety

    Great job as always. Thanks Joe.

  • @samsmusichub
    @samsmusichub Před 4 lety

    Love your content bro! I'm excited about our future!

  • @kuryamtl
    @kuryamtl Před 4 lety +6

    I need to get my boom boom machine going with some zoom zoom juice.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Před 4 lety

      Hmmmm, seems to me, the Very Last Thing you want connected with any rocket is "Boom Boom"!!!!!! LOL. ;D

  • @javierhernandez1555
    @javierhernandez1555 Před 4 lety +3

    Your sub count seems to have some of that zoom zoom juice.

  • @jameshartley8115
    @jameshartley8115 Před 3 lety +2

    4:32
    "Tha'ssa spicy meatball!"
    I need a t-shirt with that at the top, and a nuclear explosion below it

  • @tammyleederwhitaker649

    I always love 💕 coming back to your channel!

  • @GandolphTheGreyBeard
    @GandolphTheGreyBeard Před 4 lety +106

    Joe: "That would be like a giant skidmark all the way across the continent"
    Me: "Leave my underwear out of your videos!"

  • @LoganMaclaren
    @LoganMaclaren Před 4 lety +17

    "... fusion drive, when we get that technology down. You know, in 20 years or so." LOL
    Fusion drive... what a dream. ;-)

    • @LoganMaclaren
      @LoganMaclaren Před 4 lety

      @@professorbrainyspecs7366 , you know, it's probably the best idea, but maybe not the best choice to go to Mars, let's say. Because of the energetic demands of this technology, off course.

    • @LoganMaclaren
      @LoganMaclaren Před 4 lety

      @@professorbrainyspecs7366 so was I, I thought it showed across... Anyway, assuming we could choose, I think the Star Wars way would be faster. Just saying. Pick your favorite rock now, I bet there will be some online linching pretty soon... 😅

  • @calvinl2149
    @calvinl2149 Před 3 lety

    Always enjoy and learn from your videos. Would love to see a follow-up video to this that references how realistic the "Pathfinder" shuttle using a Nerva engine from the show "For All Mankind" is.

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 Před 4 lety +1

    "That's a spicy meatball!" That's so cool you were aware of that commercial (Alka Selzer), since i'm pretty sure it was before your time; but I remember it and it was a great reference with that nuclear detonation. All good wishes!

  • @michaelraath3164
    @michaelraath3164 Před 4 lety +7

    "Did someone say nukes?"No,no they didn't

  • @2serveand2protect
    @2serveand2protect Před 4 lety +3

    ...just ONE QUESTION if I may!...what's "SOCCER" ? ...

    • @3VILmonkey
      @3VILmonkey Před 4 lety

      It’s a game American children play.

  • @andrevanegmond7496
    @andrevanegmond7496 Před 4 lety

    And love, love your videos. Thanks man. Very appreciated. Greetings from Holland

  • @cjjohnston7955
    @cjjohnston7955 Před 4 lety +1

    Love your show Joe!

  • @confusedaardvark7662
    @confusedaardvark7662 Před 4 lety +8

    instantly press the like button, why would you do that you may say...
    Because it's Joe Scott and mars!

  • @ragusascension146
    @ragusascension146 Před 4 lety +3

    Lovely job mATE really enjoy how you keep me watching with so many choices these days you on TOP and I wanna thank you for your time !!!

  • @richardsolomon5375
    @richardsolomon5375 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for doing this video joe!

  • @BryanWicks
    @BryanWicks Před 4 lety

    Excellently written and presented. I appreciate the thought out arguments, and hope that humanity gets its act together with the technology capable of both saving and/or ending us all.

  • @OldGamerNoob
    @OldGamerNoob Před 4 lety +19

    I heard "spacey meatball" lol
    appropriate

    • @joescott
      @joescott  Před 4 lety +2

      It works on so many levels...

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Před 4 lety

      @@joescott actually "Plop Plop fizz fizz" in the really old commercial "worked on many levels" too; particularly if you got a hold of some bad chili,... and were consigned to counting the tiles on your bathroom floor,... if you get my drift!! ;D lol

  • @robertgaines-tulsa
    @robertgaines-tulsa Před 4 lety +13

    "The Boom-Boom Machine"! The funniest thing you said in the whole video.

    • @joescott
      @joescott  Před 4 lety +2

      Dude I can't even take credit for that. That was its actual nickname back in the day, according to what I read anyway.

    • @claudiolluberes111
      @claudiolluberes111 Před 4 lety

      Zoom-zoom juice was the one that got me.

  • @tonyjarvisgogi2180
    @tonyjarvisgogi2180 Před 4 lety

    Thank you my man, your videos helps me to think and give my energy to cool things and not becoming joker.

  • @brianhoward9217
    @brianhoward9217 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Joe, very interestng and educational. Top class! Would have liked to hear how fast the thermal nuclear rockets would go and how long they'd last for. Surprised you didn't mention that.

  • @KaiLastOfTheBrunnen-G
    @KaiLastOfTheBrunnen-G Před 4 lety +84

    24 out of 40 times, "60% of the time it works every time"

  • @45asunder1
    @45asunder1 Před 4 lety +3

    Space Tug? Sounds like a sci-fi porn movie.

    • @theunknownshadowish
      @theunknownshadowish Před 4 lety

      And Space Balls is any different?

    • @45asunder1
      @45asunder1 Před 4 lety

      @@theunknownshadowish space balls is a sports movie of course

  • @nathanroberson
    @nathanroberson Před 4 lety

    I’ve watch your videos for a year. Thanks so much.

  • @anooprathnakaran5962
    @anooprathnakaran5962 Před 4 lety

    Great insight

  • @D0li0
    @D0li0 Před 4 lety +3

    Woot. Got my call out. ;) Such a geek I am...

    • @D0li0
      @D0li0 Před 4 lety

      Oh.. ya.. great show, just assume that is a given. ;)

    • @RobertHildebrandt
      @RobertHildebrandt Před 4 lety

      Nice^^ I did not get mine yet. How long did you have to wait?

    • @D0li0
      @D0li0 Před 4 lety +1

      @@RobertHildebrandt 2-4 weeks?

    • @RobertHildebrandt
      @RobertHildebrandt Před 4 lety

      ​@@D0li0 Thanks :)

  • @pyrofania
    @pyrofania Před 4 lety +32

    Click like, THEN press play😅🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @burtlangoustine1
      @burtlangoustine1 Před 4 lety +1

      You one of those goons who pre-order, on faith alone? Yeah thanks for helping ruin the world.

    • @pyrofania
      @pyrofania Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah! Let the world burn ☺️😅🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @livethefuture2492
      @livethefuture2492 Před 4 lety +1

      some channels have high standards.
      consistent good quality content
      you dont need to watch the video for it to be good.

    • @ntactime_w3488
      @ntactime_w3488 Před 4 lety

      @@burtlangoustine1 youre absolutely right - look back to the game Anthem for reference. Or GR breakpoint? Or anything in history available for pre-order?

    • @joescott
      @joescott  Před 4 lety +3

      That seems like the correct order of things.

  • @blueckaym
    @blueckaym Před 4 lety +1

    One thing I realized about the ion engines (and ideally I think photon-engines) and something that noone actually mentioned in any of the many vids on the subject is the Speed at which the jet particles (generally speaking) can be ejected in order to get momentum in the counter direction.
    One of the main struggles with any engine really, but especially a space one, is the limitation of the mass of the load that a spaceship can carry.
    For example a chemical rocket would eject the particles at around the speed of their explosive (or burning) expansion.
    Momentum measures the 'motion content' of an object, and is based on the product of an object's mass and velocity.
    So chemical rockets throw lots of mass but at relatively low speeds, thus requiring you to carry a heavy load in the form of fuel.
    Ion engines eject their fuel (ie ions) at much much higher speeds, thus the efficiency for the mass of their fuel is way higher.
    If there's a fuel that can be entirely converted to photons, would be ideal since photons travel at the maximum possible speed and as we know they also have momentum, so such fuel would reach the maximum possible efficiency.
    Chemical rockets have a maximum Isp of 500 seconds, with an exhaust velocity of 4,900 m/s
    A nuclear fission engine with 1,000 Isp will produce twice the speed of exhausted gases: 9,800 m/s
    (from sciencenode.org/feature/i-need-more-speed-scotty.php)
    Ions I think are ejected at speeds dozens of times lower than the speed of light (but at least they allow to use the heavy part of the fuel - the photons)
    Speed of light as we know is 2.998e+8m/s which is about 30590 times higher

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Před 2 lety

    _"Orion the Boom Boom Machine"_ -- I am SO stealing that...😊

  • @MrGonzonator
    @MrGonzonator Před 4 lety +12

    So you're saying we should build an orion drive from mined asteroids, then fuel it via chemical rockets from Earth?

    • @omarcarrero3623
      @omarcarrero3623 Před 4 lety

      The biggest advantage of it is thst u can put huge payloads in orbit easily

    • @MrGonzonator
      @MrGonzonator Před 4 lety +2

      @@omarcarrero3623 well yes, except for the mountains of radioactive waste it leaves in its wake.
      The other advantage is moving at extreme speed. If asteroid mining is viable then moving large lumps of heavy equipment into space will be redundant. The only things that need to come up from the Earth would be high value goods such as people and nuclear fuel.

    • @joethestrat
      @joethestrat Před 4 lety

      I volunteer as tribute.

  • @alexwingfield9623
    @alexwingfield9623 Před 4 lety +9

    Love the fusion joke 😂

    • @davidroddini1512
      @davidroddini1512 Před 4 lety +3

      Alex Wingfield it is no joke. Fusion will be available in 20 years. We just have a notoriously bad record of picking the year to start the countdown.

  • @sussekind9717
    @sussekind9717 Před 4 lety +2

    Nuclear rocket propulsion would probably be a feasible method of transport outside of the earth/ moon orbital path. Probably not a good idea to use within the atmosphere or in the orbital plane.
    There is lots of radiation in space. So a little bit more wouldn't make much difference.

  • @liamhayes9544
    @liamhayes9544 Před 4 lety

    Another great video Joe.

  • @darksinvampire
    @darksinvampire Před 4 lety +20

    I'm sad you left out the possibility of nuclear powered ion drives.

    • @claudiolluberes111
      @claudiolluberes111 Před 4 lety +2

      Well he mention the russian nuclear reactor to power spaceships so we could assume the electricity for the ion drives would come from there.

    • @eaglegrip6879
      @eaglegrip6879 Před 4 lety +3

      Don't worry, be happy. :0)

    • @janstankiewicz9816
      @janstankiewicz9816 Před 4 lety +1

      seems like he pushed ions out for the sake of this videos momentum.
      ...wait, is he an ion drive himself?

  • @tacticaljackson
    @tacticaljackson Před 4 lety +7

    This isn’t rocket surgery, Dave. Get with the program.

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata Před 4 lety

      It's not even soccer surgery!

    • @janstankiewicz9816
      @janstankiewicz9816 Před 4 lety +1

      B-but... I'm a laser barista!

    • @JosePineda-cy6om
      @JosePineda-cy6om Před 4 lety

      The funniest thing is that THERE IS indeed such a thing as rocket surgery...

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata Před 4 lety

      @@JosePineda-cy6om As in surgeons who work aboard rockets, or just "engineers"?

    • @JosePineda-cy6om
      @JosePineda-cy6om Před 4 lety

      @@PinataOblongata Astronauts who need to do a space walk and use an actual knife to cut the several layers of thermal insulation, then the layers of anti-micro meteorite protection, in order to patch a hole in the hull from the outside - Scott Manley once did a video on the only operation of this kind ever to be actually done, a realy "rocket surgery" :-D

  • @dylanhalifaux
    @dylanhalifaux Před 4 lety

    Thanks for my mondays dose of knowledge.

  • @peter-klausnikolaus4823
    @peter-klausnikolaus4823 Před 4 lety +2

    Also very efficient: plasma thrusters... at least as long as you have access to Power via photovoltaic or rtg.

  • @Brandank_
    @Brandank_ Před 4 lety +4

    At 4:33 Imao

  • @PaulPaulPaulson
    @PaulPaulPaulson Před 4 lety +3

    Topic of the next OLF episode:
    The new nuclear aerospike powered Tesla XE.
    It works perfectly 24 out of 40 times.

  • @johncnorris
    @johncnorris Před 4 lety

    Very illuminating!

  • @absolutely1337
    @absolutely1337 Před 4 lety +1

    Interesting. Was trying to fathom this the other night.

  • @danielroden9424
    @danielroden9424 Před 4 lety +24

    wouldnt you send the reactor up separately from the fuel and put the fuel in a container that could survive reentry and or a rocket failure? also couldnt they stage fuel along orbital path so that elons ship refuels mid journey to make the journey quicker?

    • @terrelshumway427
      @terrelshumway427 Před 4 lety +11

      Any vehicle that would survive reentry with the fuel would also survive reentry with the reactor. Fueling a reactor is something that you want to go perfectly. No reason not to do it on Earth. This might make sense 50-100 years from now when we have uranium mines on the moon, but not now. We need baby steps first.
      Nuclear reactors typically go decades before needing to be refueled. This is the whole point.
      Staging along the orbital path requires you to travel the orbital path, and then successfully rendezvous with the staging points, which is ... *way more complicated* than necessary and provides very little benefit. For chemical rockets, it might make sense, if, and only if, you are making/mining the fuel near the fuel depot.

    • @electronresonator8882
      @electronresonator8882 Před 4 lety

      just make sure it will never fail during the launch or reentry, or the effect of that failure will trigger world war 3
      there's reason why people don;t use nuclear fireworks during new year event

    • @Bryan-Hensley
      @Bryan-Hensley Před 4 lety +1

      Abort system could be used for the nuclear items on take off

    • @livethefuture2492
      @livethefuture2492 Před 4 lety +1

      correct me if i am wrong, but havent the soviet already done some experiments with nuclear reactors in space.
      i believe thay had some spy satellite/space station concept involving nuclear reactors which was done in secret.

    • @MrMattumbo
      @MrMattumbo Před 4 lety +3

      The Soviets already launched a nuclear reactor into space, they had a plan for it to burn up on reentry but if I'm remembering correctly it didn't go to plan like they hoped. Either way, launching a fully fueled reactor is probably the best idea, just make sure that launch is on a well-proven rocket and there's nothing but ocean downrange if something fails. Then if you're returning from another planet you can jettison the reactor off into deep space after you're lined up for an Earth capture, no need to bring it back near the planet.

  • @chiraggowda4928
    @chiraggowda4928 Před 4 lety +15

    Fusion is always 20 years away.
    - Jesus

  • @deniseallisonstout1901

    I really enjoy your videos thank you!

  • @LEDewey_MD
    @LEDewey_MD Před 4 lety

    Nice update!

  • @Firstpick
    @Firstpick Před 4 lety +4

    I mean Fusion is just 30 years away :-)

  • @squallloire
    @squallloire Před 4 lety +6

    Was one of those Patreon names an Archer reference?
    Yes it was, Other Barry. Yes, it was.

  • @billyuno
    @billyuno Před 4 lety +1

    Yeah, I'm looking forward to fusion drives, like the ones they use on The Expanse. Good show. I like that it has near limitless fuel, and that they use a 1G constant burn to provide "artificial" gravity for their ships.

    • @xponen
      @xponen Před 4 lety

      sounds impossible since even a NERVA reactor reach a temperature "1/3rd of the sun" ( 7:40 ) so what engine more efficient than that? the sun itself? it will glow red like a sun?

  • @darthreun3851
    @darthreun3851 Před 4 lety

    tkx for CuriosityStream info!!! i love it so bad!!!!

  • @Forcemaster2000
    @Forcemaster2000 Před 4 lety +6

    ...because the aliens on the moon told Neil Armstrong we had to stay off the moon until 2030!

    • @rpbajb
      @rpbajb Před 4 lety

      Why 2030? Because climate change will have killed us all by then?

  • @demizer1968
    @demizer1968 Před 4 lety +7

    "Nuclear Wessels"

  • @bowiemiller1884
    @bowiemiller1884 Před 4 lety +1

    Chernobyl skid mark 😂🤣 love it!

  • @SingleTrackMindState
    @SingleTrackMindState Před 4 lety

    Thanks Joe

  • @frmcf
    @frmcf Před 4 lety +3

    It’s pronounced nucular: nu-cju-luhr

    • @likebot.
      @likebot. Před 4 lety +11

      sarcasm is not carried well in text.

    • @tomf3150
      @tomf3150 Před 4 lety

      Lrrr of Omicron Perseï 8 wants to know your location.

  • @kenhunter2587
    @kenhunter2587 Před 4 lety

    Great video!

  • @bruinflight1
    @bruinflight1 Před 4 lety

    We love you Joe!!!

  • @_aullik
    @_aullik Před 4 lety

    Joe one of the things you should also look at while comparing rocket motors is their thrust. Its not that important in orbit, but its super important when getting to orbit in the first place. You can have a rocket engine with a super good ISP but it cant even lift its own weight meaning it is useless when it has to fight gravity.

  • @zeyadashraf6396
    @zeyadashraf6396 Před 4 lety

    Yes I've been waiting for this

  • @shanemontgomery8846
    @shanemontgomery8846 Před 4 lety

    One of my favorite channels!

  • @werthersoriginal
    @werthersoriginal Před 4 lety +1

    4:21 *Me at Golden Corral Buffet, vs going out to fancy dinner*

  • @gmeast
    @gmeast Před 4 lety

    The 'hybrid' concept is the best choice. Chem-to-orbit, then Nuke for the journey, then Chem for landing. Radiation problems, both from ambient and from the reactor(s) are solvable. Yup ... that's the one! Of course, landing should probably make use of hypergolics because there's no cryogenic storage issues as opposed to LH2 and LOX ... But those hypergolics are corrosive and nasty reactants ... BRILLIANT!!!

  • @bluemountain4181
    @bluemountain4181 Před 4 lety +2

    There's also the problem that when you fire an NTR radioactive particles come out the exhaust, so you don't want to be firing that here on Earth. It would have to be ferried up to space and used there. Perhaps something like the Starship but with the vacuum optimised Raptors swapped out for an NTR.

    • @totalermist
      @totalermist Před 4 lety +1

      Fortunately that's not an issue - NTR engines have a terrible thrust -to-weight ratio and wouldn't be able to lift off from Earth anyway.

    • @terrelshumway427
      @terrelshumway427 Před 4 lety +1

      The rocket is designed to heat the exhaust without making it radioactive, but a *small amount* of radioactive products will likely leak. This is not the huge problem that people think it is.
      large.stanford.edu/courses/2011/ph241/hamerly1/ (see "Radiation and Safety" section)

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 Před 4 lety

      Fortunately these engines don't have the TWR to lift a spacecraft from earth anyway, so they'd only be used in space

  • @andrewjohnson6716
    @andrewjohnson6716 Před 4 lety

    One qualifier of Specific Impukse is also that it is only the thrust in the direction that you wish to go that is counted.

  • @shannonlove4328
    @shannonlove4328 Před 4 lety +2

    Orion Pulse Rocket, for when you want to launch an ocean linear into space.

    • @dubistverrueckt
      @dubistverrueckt Před 4 lety

      And that is the way to make space travel not only safe but comfortable! All that bulk can be water and provisions for the crew, shielding them perfectly from radiation and able to carry rotating rings for artificial gravity when the ship is coasting.

  • @Iwanbezbrody
    @Iwanbezbrody Před rokem +1

    NERVA plays big part in For All Mankind's season 2 and onward

  • @paularcher4607
    @paularcher4607 Před 4 lety +1

    Kind of surprised you didn't mention the USN for their experience in using nuclear to run large vehicles (aircraft carrier, anyone) for decades without refueling or accidents.

  • @JosephHarner
    @JosephHarner Před 4 lety

    Specific impulse is really just a stand-in for the effective exhaust velocity. Its advantage is that it is directly comparable between imperial and metric designs, as both systems use seconds as a common unit.
    Multiply the specific impulse of a rocket by G (9.8m/s) and you will get the effective exhaust velocity of the rocket, which is a much more intuitive value to explain mass efficiency of rockets.

  • @Talwyn22
    @Talwyn22 Před 4 lety +1

    Could you do a deeper video on Project Orion?

  • @ianmorgan889
    @ianmorgan889 Před 4 lety

    One of my best finds on CZcams, really great channel in every respect!
    Have you done one on Quantum Entanglement yet?-it's a Peach!

  • @avejst
    @avejst Před 4 lety

    Thanks for sharing this interesting video 👍
    Thanks for sharing 👍😀

  • @BrandonCase
    @BrandonCase Před 4 lety +1

    New word alert @10:51.
    Exposure + Explosion = Exposion?
    I like it.

  • @HipsterYoda
    @HipsterYoda Před 4 lety

    You had me at the word beyond lol

  • @bigcauc7530
    @bigcauc7530 Před 4 lety

    Exposion 😂 making words. I like it! Get a t-shirt with that on it and I'll buy!