In the critical moment, because apparently they couldn't figure out how to just say the right thing, they've chosen to say absolutely nothing instead. Disappointing.
Not arguing one way or the other here, but just so everyone sees it - the description under the video says: "IMPORTANT NOTE: This episode of Offline was recorded prior to the events of July 13 at Donald Trump's Pennsylvania rally. We will have full coverage of that incident and the ramifications of it in the next episode of Pod Save America."
@@StraveTube Yeah, "in the next episode", which usually shows up in my feed on Monday morning. It's Monday evening now (7-15-2024) and there's nothing from them. They would normally have had another episode out by now.
I’m so glad Elle Reeve has been reporting on all of this. I watched with horror the rise of the PUA/ incel/ alt-right / blackpill movement as a very online depressed young adult in the 2010’s. At the time I worried that nobody was taking these disenchanted angry young men seriously, and was also terrified at their misogyny. When Charlottesville happened, it was confirmation of my worst nightmares.
@catc8927 none of these white identitarians are as extreme as the thread of liberal extremists who try to assassinate congressman at a baseball game or presidential candidates at a rally. Her reporting is extremely contrived
WRONG - we are not “all” going to join hands and say what you said - it’s the same “Ax” and Carville demanding and pushing and negotiating in public. You are justifying - social media did NOT demand he step down. Yes it was a terrible debate but he’s been fantastic since - NOT on you
When Biden declared his intention to run for a second term I was gobsmacked for I remembered that both Biden and his closest advisors had, through several statements, indicated that Biden would serve but one term. Even Biden described himself as a "bridge," a candidate who would step aside after one term to make way for a leader from a younger generation. What happened to that concept?
I thought the same thing, and when he declared he would run again, I remember thinking that this would be a great time to make a good succession plan, really push Kamala and Pete and whoever else had greater ambitions to the front, and let them run as functional incumbents. I really like what Biden has accomplished as president, but I think one of the best things he could have done was leave gracefully.
I think it's the foreign policy situation is where he gets the notion that only he could do it and that's maybe not far wrong, given his decades of experience and his level of success.
@@SarahWatchesStuff He's done well in some areas, particularly with our allies, but his Israel policies have been a disaster and his line-walking in Ukraine bears at least some responsibility for the quagmire. I'm not sure those are specifically his fault, per se _(Putin and Netanyahu are the real problems, but Biden failed to understand that soon enough or maybe at all),_ but the results are bad. That's not to say you're wrong - I think Biden thinks his foreign policy chops are strong - but I'm not sure he's adapted to a modern multipolar world that well.
Still very true. There is no one. Unfortunately the Dem bench is far weaker than Biden. I am not concerned so much for now, but really worried for 2028.
It's a real shame that the timing of this episode is massively overshadowing its content, because that interview with Elle Reeve is genuinely one of the most interesting Offline interviews I can remember. Really fascinating stuff, I'd never thought about those differences between old school skinheads and the digital alt-right before, and how it might impact their wider movement. I hope people don't just discard this episode as 'already outdated' and give it a proper chance. That being said, I feel like just adding a brief disclaimer to the opening of the video would have worked very well. I know there's one in your comments, but a lot of people won't ever read that comment whereas everyone would have seen a start-of-video disclaimer.
Y’all are so arrogant. “Everyone who doesn’t want what we want is hiding the truth from their audience”. Come on. We can agree that the debate was awful and disagree about what to do about it. The conversation was needed. We had it. He’s staying in. Time to move on and get behind the president, like you said you would.
Why do you want to shut this conversation down? Seriously? No one is forcing you to be a part of it. But for those of us who would like to continue to have it, what's it to you?
Biden has come back strongly in probably about 20 public appearances since the debate. He nailed it in Las Vegas today! It's so disloyal to abandon our president after 40+ years of public service and a successful presidency. Biden has a strong team starting with Kamala Harris. He's a good man. It's Democracy vs Fascism. I thought you guys got that. People are not going to switch to T-rump and fascism because of the debate. GET REAL!! If 45 wins again, bye bye Pod Save America. You will be censored!
I think it’s hubris to say that people who are still saying Biden should stay in or that the talk of replacing Biden is unhelpful don’t recognize the threat of Trump’s reelection or don’t care. We care very much. But we’re not hearing anything about a plausible path to replacement that is any less full of risk than keeping Biden at this point.
Good, now you know how the other side feels when we are accused of not caring because we want Biden replaced. We were told we don't care when we said he should have been replaced before the primaries started. By the way, Trump just had an assassination attempt against him. He moved like a young man and raised his fist up in defiance as he was led away by the Secret Service. The AP took an iconic photo of Trump lifting his fist behind the American flag. Even as someone who's not a fan of Trump, he looked Presidential in that moment. His poll numbers are going up. But I guess we are going to stick with old man Joe. I'm sure a guy who can barely get thru speeches is going to beat a guy who risked his life to run for President.
@@jfturner67 I think both are very plausible if Biden would step down. That is the big obstacle. He is not only hurting the country now but he will destroy his legacy if he won’t do the right thing. 😭
It's been nearly three weeks since the debate and Jon is still stuck in binary thinking where you either think the debate was fine or want Joe to step down. The debate was a nightmare but I'm still ridin with Biden.
@@MitchellColbert What a laughably smug reply you managed there. Biden is _behind_ in the polls and he does not connect with first time, independent, undecideds.
I stuck, too. Just like Jon. Maybe you're tired of hearing this conversation/content. But, I'm not. If you're bored go find some other content on YT. There's plenty.
Oh man, I know the content pipeline is always backlogged, but seeing your first video on Pod Save America channel after the Trump shooting not be about that is rough.
What we all would agree on that, I believe, is that it was probably not staged by any party and it was a great event for Trump's campaign. I don't fully understand how US' politics work, but it similarly happened in other countries prior to their election and that had a huge influence and most of the times determined the victim as the winner. 2018 Brazil, I believe Ecuador 2-3 years ago etc.
What could they possibly add to the coverage already online? How much opinion do you think PSA could spew about trumps assignation attempt? Some registered Republican became disenfranchised about trump and/or what he represents or fails to representative. Take your pick. The shooter was belatedly killed, an innocent bystander was killed, the FBI is investigating. End of story. As new information comes forward maybe there will be more to critique but until that time there’s not much to cover as PSA is not a breaking news reporting channel, they are an analytical and opinion oriented channel.
" _Some_ people don't....." Get over yourself. _Some_ people don't understand the 'exotic' possibility of....... le gasp!...... a political commentary and news channel putting out a video about * the thing that really is the most important event * .
Just because they pre-record episodes does not mean they can't re-record parts of it. The Elle Reeve's interview was great, but the a-block shouldn't have been redone, it was bad.
You can pre-record an episode and then NOT release it when it's a terrible time to do so. Whoever thought it was a good idea to let this through then release nothing whatsoever for two days after the event made a huge mistake. This is a terrible look.
Elle Reeve and Donie O'Sullivan are the two best investigative journalists on CNN. They have a nonconfrontational way of interviewing those who they may not necessarily agree with. They genuinely listen to the people who they interview and ask probing - not accusatory - questions. The result is always an informative interview.
Biden, in my opinion, isn’t sufficiently in it to win it. He said, roughly, as long as he does the “goodest” job he can do, if he loses, he’ll be fine. What kind of an attitude is that? IMO, it’s the attitude of someone who does not understand the stakes of this election. He is so arrogant at this point that he has said only God could convince him to stop running. His test for dropping out-someone shows him data that he CAN’T win-is impossible to pass. He isn’t acting rationally. He’s clinging to power. He wants to beat Trump, but he’s not willing to sacrifice his own power to do so.
I know it’s prerecorded…….but…… this episode is falling on a def mind. I’m literally trying to pay attention to each word. I can’t hear it because what happened yesterday. I hate DT. I can’t think of a person that this may have happen to more than DT. It’s an outcome we all have dreamt of happening. Yet, I’m shaken with the feeling that THIS is all crumbling. It’s not a new feeling. It’s a feeling as old as civilization. Just like I was on J6th, I’m sad for America, I’m sad because no one will ever put their guards down. Now we’re forced like animals to hate the other. While this was domestic occurrence, the whole world is watching us fall flat on our faces. The whole world knows that we don’t know what’s happening. The whole world knows it’s in chaos. Our culture is good for revolting, maybe not so much in the construction of modern thought.
Personally, I have been wanting Joe Biden to step aside since he was nominated as the Democratic candidate. I wanted Bernie first and foremost, then contentedly settled for Elizabeth Warren (both very sharp people) then was forced to vote for Biden. The Pod boys finally acknowledging the elephant in the room was such a relief and also validation for why I listen to and trust you guys. Keep fighting the good fight. We deserve a coherent and sharp candidate, at the VERY least.
What he said about opinion leaders having an effect even though us junkies are the onky ones paying attention is true. While we are the only ones paying attention, most of us have a small group of people who react to the political cues we give. So although the influence is delayed, it still exists. Because I am sure that this audience is posting on their social media accounts . Republicans understand the importance of this which is why they invest in social media influencers.
I thought Joe Biden was different. But the more I listen to him the more upset I get. He is sounding more like Trump everyday, “I alone can fix it, the media is after me, I don’t believe the polls” Joe Biden will lose this election, there is zero enthusiasm for his campaign from young voters, swing voters and soft Republicans. And after Saturday, forget about it, Trump looks stronger, energetic and full of vigor, Biden looks 100, cannot complete a sentence coherently, and honestly he looks like he’s going to have a health crisis at any second. To me he is behaving egotistical, and selfishly, and the worst part is that he’s going to take the house and senate down with him, the party knows it and it’s doing crap about it!
I think this election has demonstrated a weakness in our incumbent primary process. We need a better process for leaders and voters to reconnect after four years.
I thought they would at least have some kind of message at the start of the episode about it. Weird. What a time. I feel like this is the calm before something really unpredictable.
I listen and trust people in both sides of the "Should Biden stay or go?" and did watch the entire debate. I've been back and forth. The debate really threw me for a loop, but I've finally decided that I'm staying with Biden. The debate was horrendous and I didn't like that, when on Morning Joe, he used audio only. I would have preferred seeing him live. The Zelensky/Putin and Harris/Trump gaffs did not bother me as much. Gaffs are not unusual for him. I've come to my conclusion that a convention decision would be less than helpful and that I will stay with the incumbent. Harris will be there to back him up and take over if it becomes necessary. It is imperative that Trump is defeated. My major concern now is that Trump will or has already said that Democrats sent the shooter and that now Magas will take that as orders to get retribution.
i love you guys but you didn’t just talk about what you saw, toy talked about what we should do before checking in with the grassroots of our party. maybe you missed this - The latest numbers from PBS/NPR/Marist polls actually show that Mr. Biden is now leading former President Trump 50 to 48 in a head-to-head matchup. When third parties, however, are factored in, he slips slightly, but it's still a statistical dead heat there, with Trump at 43 percent, Biden at 42.- 2 days ago
is that a disposable starbuck’s plastic cup?! ok, as a parent, as a progressive, please prebut the potential thousand criticisms of this abjectly miserable consumer decision. thank you.
I'm so fascinated for the people who say we need to drop Biden to provide a even slightly realistic play by play of what that process would look like and how the democrats would be able to decide on and unite behind another candidate in time for the deomacratic convention. It's no good prioritising getting rid of Biden if the rest of you plan is based on vibes and magical thinking. I honestly think so many democrats looking down the barrel of fascism in America have just lost their minds with fear. If you want a candidate that can assure you, things will be fine tough. That candidate does not exist. People like me get very frustrated at those who want Biden out not out of some strange loyalty or tribe behaviour (but thanks for that patronising dismissal) it's because there is no realistic plan as to how to do it and then resolve it without handing the election to trump. You'd make lousy doctors, if you can't help then the least you can do is no harm.
People may choose to don blinders and deny the awful truth of Biden's debate debacle. That is their right. But they do not have the right to denounce those who acknowledge the truth, and call for remedies, as disloyal, ungrateful, cruel sorts who lack the decency to rush to protect great-granda Joe Biden from criticisms and challenges.
You can criticise Biden all you'd like, go nuts. But that doesn't insulate you from criticism that your goal is to overturn an election and force out the candidate that millions and millions of people showed up to vote for. Nor does it make your idea of replacing him with *just 29 days* between the convention where a new candidate would be picked and early voting starting, any less impossible. Joe Biden is insanely old, and literally everybody knows that. Every single person who showed up in the primary, and checked off Biden's name instead of Phillips or anyone else knew he was old, that is not new information to anyone. But you seem to think you're just going to be able to insult the rest of us into getting your forcing your way. It's not "speaking truths", it's just the same 'burn it all down, consequences be damned', attitude that Trump and his supporters have been pushing for nearly a decade now.
This channel has comment sections full of 'Blue no matter who'. Put up a candidate who would be able to get first time and independents on side (and that really is not Biden) AND you'll have the 'vote Dem up and down the ticket' folk
Great job John! Really good interview. I’m gonna try to be more positive. I don’t know what else to do. I’m at a loss. I really am. I’m sorry these are really scary times.❤
Jon, stop talking about Kamala as an alternative. Talk to anyone inside the Biden administration (besides her aides, of course, who depend on her for a job) and see what they really think about that , off the record. Don’t hold on to her as proof of your goodness against your detractors.
Why are we talking about abandoning the primary process and taking the choice of the democratic nominee out of the hands of voters instead of talking about running a 3rd Party candidate? Is it because we are concerned about a split vote by Democrats? Isn’t it just the job of all the people who want a new candidate to convince those who still want to back Biden to switch?
Corporations are people, but not citizens. The court concluded that corporations are “persons” within the meaning of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Yet the Court has been quite reticent to concede that corporations are “citizens” for the purpose of the Privileges and Immunities Clause. Watch a corporate facade slip: LIVE: Michael Cohen REACTS to BREAKING NEWS | MeidasTouch
I think it’s more an issue of white men not having experienced racism and sexism. They can’t fully grasp its impact and pervasiveness. It’s for that reason that they don’t recognize that Harris would not be a good contender. It sucks a ton, but this is the society we live in.
@@gmonz11 White men? Um, yeah. And it’s a blanket statement that I stand by… White male privilege a very real thing. I can assure you it’s not a figment of collective oppressed groups’ imaginations. If you want to believe that you’re discriminated against, go right ahead. But I think a better use of your time would be to appreciate the status that you were born into, and didn’t earn, that has afforded you innumerable opportunities denied to millions. Get a clue, dude.
Regarding the debate Many people had a concept of Joe Biden and he performed worse that that. Many people had a concept of Trump and he performed somewhat better than that. The polls won't move much, these are the two choices.
45 performed better? You mean telling 24 verified lies after a day playing golf vs zero lies told by President Biden is winning the debate? People are "not seeing the forest for the trees."
The irony of seeing him confused about being called a racist the first time he has a thought outside the mainstream Dems party line is hilarious. Peddling identity politics is what he's been doing his entire career, now he knows what its been like for the rest of us the last 20 years.
Okay stop for a moment and tell us as democrats how to get the DNC to nominate a new presidential candidate!! Do we write our congressman? Do we sign a petition?? Help us out.
You guys need to find another talking point. If the question is WHO can win this conversation should have happened a year ago. I'm done with this episode and maybe subscription. But glad you're feeling good about yourself Jon.
I skipped to the interview. All the handwringing about Joe is Late. This is it. What about Trump's plane, the Russian diplomatic plane and the Saudi plane sitting next to each other for three days at Dulles before and after the debate? Reports of individuals walking from one plane to another. Then, just before the Philly mess, Trump flagrantly meeting with Orban who announced himself as an emissary for Putin. Come on! Quit dumping on Biden and expose this traitorous republican candidate. Get some survivors of Japanese internment on, brown people are being targeted for camps (and gladiator rings 😮) Please! Focus on the actual threat. Birth right citizenship is a 14th amendment to establish black skaves as citizens, the t-word might not know, but whomever fed him the line knows. The campaign is trying unsuccessfully to explain NATO to Trump and he is incapable of comprehending what they are saying. The threat is NOT JOE! The threat is DJT.
Psa needs to get out of THEIR bubble. Yes the debate sucked. But Biden is not going anywhere. It is beyond time that this story be put behind us. The only person that can beat Trump is Biden. Full stop. This ongoing debate is killing our chances!!
@crookedmedia - I'm not on Twitter /X or Threads, but I have really appreciated you sharing your honest viewpoint. I have been on other channels on YT looking for some clear conversation with folks who you see occasionally on MSNBC or CNN and been extremely frustrated by the gaslighting twist post-debate. So, thank you for being honest. The ONLY downside, and maybe it is not a downside, I now have lost respect for many of my previously favorite pundit/politicians. I almost lost Psaki, but she came around. :) It has been very revealing to see the similarities to MSNBC and Fox post-debate with a few exceptions, many of those you mentioned. I hate to say it, but I've never watched "The Lead" more than I have the past 2 weeks. All that to say, the affect of this conversation has made me feel like we have a SLIVER of hope to look towards the future. But, trying to keep the status quo so incredibly demoralizing.
Really? I had hoped this topic would be OVER after the everyone was fed a new topic yesterday. I'm done listening to ANYONE talking about this. How about comparing the monsters record to Joe's record. It's the STATS that matter and don't lie. I know you understand what's at stake. Please produce intelligently.
When you count how many voters see your commentary you also have to figure in that a lot of people outside the US are watching you. There is people from outside the US in the comments all the time.
I find it incredibly suspicious that Spotify rolled out their update that upended the commenting on podcasts in-app. Used to be Q&A, but they claim now that will be comment section. However, now can't leave comments either way. If someone on the @crooked team sees this, please allow comments on Spotify again
Back on topic: our independent authorities have done a terrible job of holding wrong-doers accountable. DOJ utterly failed in prosecuting Trump. That is essentially Biden's failure + contributes to our sense now that Biden's "too slow to respond" - which he is . (Biden has to go even more now post-PA.)
Yes! And, now all of the sudden he's everywhere seemingly bending over backwards to help look into this horrible event which only benefits Trump. Where was all this "jumping" to action when we were talking about SCOTUS taking away our rights to abortion or even January 6th. It comes across like he's following Trump's lead instead and a response based in fear. It's horribly depressing.
Bro, if you’re unable to read a Supreme Court decision maybe don’t comment on that topic? Conservative justices all gave Trump full immunity he asked for & his motives can never be questioned.
1:03:30 «race and culture cannot be separated» would be a lot more persuasive of an argument if it wasn’t coming from people who have invented their race [“white”] and aren’t even speaking the language of their cultural heritage [German, Polish, Hungarian, French, Dutch, Swedish, Italian, Gaelic, Greek, etc.]. Yeah, obviously some white nationalists have a 100%-English cultural heritage, but they’re still happy to ignore that most of their compatriots don’t, in order to support the fiction that “white” isn’t an invented grouping and has a distinct cultural heritage that is so broad and ecumenical it can include basically all of Europe, the US and Canada, and Australia and New Zealand, yet also so specific and narrowly drawn that people who’ve lived in those societies for centuries or millennia aren’t part of it.
By your own criteria Black culture in the USA is just as a fake and made up, none of them speak the languages or remember the original traditions of their ethnic groups, but that doesn’t make the new black culture not a genuine culture. It’s just as invented as whiteness, even if it’s older and more robust than contemporary ‘white’ culture
Trump just picked a young writer that has name recognition and comes from a poor background as VP. Couple that with the news from this weekend. We're cooked.
The voters have been saying they are not comfortable with Biden's age for more than a year - Poll or Focus Group - that is the data. The way the media covers polling is extremely annoying -but we can glean something from the directionality of the polling and focus groups. They all are trending in the same direction - Trump is going to win in the key swing states we need - Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. If you'd like to offer another roadmap to Biden winning - please! I'm all ears.
@@leighalaughlin4056 I didn't see one - you're correct on that - but this is not something Biden can get out of because AGE comes for all of us. Too many Americans have seen the decline with their own eyes and can relate to their own personal experience with their parents/grandparents. They RESONATE with what they saw and that's not going away.
🏳️🌈Had you guys said anything other than what you did say right after the debate, I would have written you off as political hacks and unsubscribe from your channel. I listen because you tell the truth.🏳️🌈
First half of the show: what political podcasts say online have no impact on what normies think or how they vote Second half of show: young men are being influenced and radicalized by what people are saying online
Well I think those two observations are still coherent cause *no-one* would argue people hanging out in radicalising spaces is a normie. 4 chan, 8 chan/8 kun and others are not for the normies AT ALL, even if they're the ones the normies know most about. There's others I'm sure. Like dude if you happily identify yourself as the toxic variety of incel, or a fascist or a white nationalist, there is nothing *normie* about you.
what do you feel regarding the Election Professor's prediction model and the whole incumbency thing? His plan B is that Biden steps down and lets Harris step in, she gains the incumbency halo and then wins??
This was mainstream belief about free speech because this was mainstream belief in First Amendment scholarship. That is partly because the idea freedom from governmental interference with speech always had an inherent contradiction. It is no big deal to protect fringe speech that is not very effective. It is when it is effective that then the government often finds an exception applies that lets it intervene. But the philosophy and scholarship has (to my mind) always been caught short or flat-footed in trying to deal with speech by powerful nongovernmental entities-like advertisers or the Heritage Foundation.
People spend less time on polls than interacting, like I'm doing now, on your pod, or social media. Suggestion: tap into where the opinions are being collected. Heads up the owners are already doing it.
The idea that people who come from Mexico City vs. people who come from Anglo-Saxon countries have different cultures isn't racist at all, that's what culture _is._ The difference is whether you think it's good or bad that different cultures mix together, whether one _pollutes_ another or they _enhance_ each other. The idea that culture is passed down genetically, though, is obviously stupid _(and presumably racist since the racists seem to believe it)._ People who think culture works like that must never have met a white person who grew up in a black neighborhood or an American who grew up in Japan or the UK or South Africa. Culture is place and people and what they do and how they act. The whole discussion of "culture" and whether one is superior to the other _(and the neo-Nazi assumption that white "culture" is the best)_ reminds me of my favorite Teddy Roosevelt quote: "Comparison is the thief of joy." One culture doesn't need to be "better" than another. They can all be good and valuable and amazing in their own ways. The one you grew up with will probably mean the most to you, but other cultures are great too. Nobody needs to defend the "white race", or "Western European culture" or any of that BS. We can just enjoy what we have and what other people contribute.
WHERE ARE YOU GUYS???? I’m not sure if you’ve noticed but it was kind of a big weekend
In the critical moment, because apparently they couldn't figure out how to just say the right thing, they've chosen to say absolutely nothing instead. Disappointing.
Not arguing one way or the other here, but just so everyone sees it - the description under the video says:
"IMPORTANT NOTE: This episode of Offline was recorded prior to the events of July 13 at Donald Trump's Pennsylvania rally. We will have full coverage of that incident and the ramifications of it in the next episode of Pod Save America."
@@StraveTube Right? People literally don't read or understand upload schedules. It's not the news.
@@StraveTube Yeah, "in the next episode", which usually shows up in my feed on Monday morning. It's Monday evening now (7-15-2024) and there's nothing from them. They would normally have had another episode out by now.
right? They were quick to shit all over Biden for two weeks, where are they now?
I'm old enough to remember when replacing President Biden was the biggest news in American politics
Hahahaha
Does that mean you've been forming long term memories for at least two weeks?
We have all lived lifetimes in the past few years.
@@marcuscampbell7305NOT ehat he was sayong AT ALL!!!!
I remember calling for him drop out 1 years ago…and being shamed for it
The attempt on Trump kinda overshadows this episode but I’m still here for it.
Key word here "attempt"... Gosh darnit.
Evil @@charlesmiv3842
@@charlesmiv3842 Riiiight ?
@@andreapoulieva6717 If only that "attempt" were maybe a bit more substantial then we'd have a functioning democracy for the next 5 years.
I don’t think it changes much in the long run. Or at least I haven’t imagined any groups that it will change votes.
I’m so glad Elle Reeve has been reporting on all of this. I watched with horror the rise of the PUA/ incel/ alt-right / blackpill movement as a very online depressed young adult in the 2010’s. At the time I worried that nobody was taking these disenchanted angry young men seriously, and was also terrified at their misogyny. When Charlottesville happened, it was confirmation of my worst nightmares.
@catc8927 none of these white identitarians are as extreme as the thread of liberal extremists who try to assassinate congressman at a baseball game or presidential candidates at a rally. Her reporting is extremely contrived
The way Elle Reeve speaks is almost hypnotic
ASMR tier speech
She sounds so sweet and non-judgmental. It must intrigue the people she interviews, too.
Also much indistinct murmuring, as if Elle Reeve is talking to herself and has no concern about intelligibility.
@user-cr9kj7cn4d I could understand everything she said.
Did you forget to turn your hearing aids up, Grandpa?
The way her name is pronounced is counterintuitive
WRONG - we are not “all” going to join hands and say what you said - it’s the same “Ax” and Carville demanding and pushing and negotiating in public. You are justifying - social media did NOT demand he step down. Yes it was a terrible debate but he’s been fantastic since - NOT on you
That's perfectly fine if you disagree, but I disagree that he's been fantastic post-debate.
We don't have an independent media. Money defines media coverage.
Most Americans may have concerns, but don't want Biden replaced.
When Biden declared his intention to run for a second term I was gobsmacked for I remembered that both Biden and his closest advisors had, through several statements, indicated that Biden would serve but one term. Even Biden described himself as a "bridge," a candidate who would step aside after one term to make way for a leader from a younger generation. What happened to that concept?
I thought the same thing, and when he declared he would run again, I remember thinking that this would be a great time to make a good succession plan, really push Kamala and Pete and whoever else had greater ambitions to the front, and let them run as functional incumbents. I really like what Biden has accomplished as president, but I think one of the best things he could have done was leave gracefully.
@@kesart8378 good question. Hubris I fear. “Only I can save us.” That was probably true in 2020. It is most definitely not true now.
I think it's the foreign policy situation is where he gets the notion that only he could do it and that's maybe not far wrong, given his decades of experience and his level of success.
@@SarahWatchesStuff He's done well in some areas, particularly with our allies, but his Israel policies have been a disaster and his line-walking in Ukraine bears at least some responsibility for the quagmire. I'm not sure those are specifically his fault, per se _(Putin and Netanyahu are the real problems, but Biden failed to understand that soon enough or maybe at all),_ but the results are bad.
That's not to say you're wrong - I think Biden thinks his foreign policy chops are strong - but I'm not sure he's adapted to a modern multipolar world that well.
Still very true. There is no one. Unfortunately the Dem bench is far weaker than Biden. I am not concerned so much for now, but really worried for 2028.
It's a real shame that the timing of this episode is massively overshadowing its content, because that interview with Elle Reeve is genuinely one of the most interesting Offline interviews I can remember. Really fascinating stuff, I'd never thought about those differences between old school skinheads and the digital alt-right before, and how it might impact their wider movement. I hope people don't just discard this episode as 'already outdated' and give it a proper chance.
That being said, I feel like just adding a brief disclaimer to the opening of the video would have worked very well. I know there's one in your comments, but a lot of people won't ever read that comment whereas everyone would have seen a start-of-video disclaimer.
Y’all are so arrogant. “Everyone who doesn’t want what we want is hiding the truth from their audience”. Come on. We can agree that the debate was awful and disagree about what to do about it. The conversation was needed. We had it. He’s staying in. Time to move on and get behind the president, like you said you would.
Why do you want to shut this conversation down? Seriously? No one is forcing you to be a part of it. But for those of us who would like to continue to have it, what's it to you?
Biden has come back strongly in probably about 20 public appearances since the debate. He nailed it in Las Vegas today! It's so disloyal to abandon our president after 40+ years of public service and a successful presidency. Biden has a strong team starting with Kamala Harris. He's a good man. It's Democracy vs Fascism. I thought you guys got that. People are not going to switch to T-rump and fascism because of the debate. GET REAL!! If 45 wins again, bye bye Pod Save America. You will be censored!
I think it’s hubris to say that people who are still saying Biden should stay in or that the talk of replacing Biden is unhelpful don’t recognize the threat of Trump’s reelection or don’t care. We care very much. But we’re not hearing anything about a plausible path to replacement that is any less full of risk than keeping Biden at this point.
Good, now you know how the other side feels when we are accused of not caring because we want Biden replaced. We were told we don't care when we said he should have been replaced before the primaries started. By the way, Trump just had an assassination attempt against him. He moved like a young man and raised his fist up in defiance as he was led away by the Secret Service. The AP took an iconic photo of Trump lifting his fist behind the American flag. Even as someone who's not a fan of Trump, he looked Presidential in that moment. His poll numbers are going up.
But I guess we are going to stick with old man Joe. I'm sure a guy who can barely get thru speeches is going to beat a guy who risked his life to run for President.
@@jfturner67 You must not be listening very carefully then because they mentioned 2 in this very podcast. 🙄
@@tpiety The key word there is plausible.
@@jfturner67 I think both are very plausible if Biden would step down. That is the big obstacle. He is not only hurting the country now but he will destroy his legacy if he won’t do the right thing. 😭
I hadn't heard of Elle Reeve prior to this, but she was captivating in this interview. Will definitely follow her work from now on.
She reminds me of Marilyn Garbanza (played by Melissa George) from The Good Wife in how she talks and looks.
@@KK-fi6msI love Melissa George and Elle Reeve! Except Elle is not Australian 😂
Biden's not dropping out. I don't know how much clearer it could make that.
But we can still go on & on about it 24/7.🤨
It's been nearly three weeks since the debate and Jon is still stuck in binary thinking where you either think the debate was fine or want Joe to step down. The debate was a nightmare but I'm still ridin with Biden.
that's fine but the point is Biden is going to lose
@@jackied962 You're entitled to your pessimistic opinion that there will be a Trump second term. I can't stop you from dreaming.
@@MitchellColbert What a laughably smug reply you managed there.
Biden is _behind_ in the polls and he does not connect with first time, independent, undecideds.
I stuck, too. Just like Jon. Maybe you're tired of hearing this conversation/content. But, I'm not. If you're bored go find some other content on YT. There's plenty.
@@jackied962 100%
debate is history now.
Nobody will ever forget that debate
@@1marcelo I sure won't
Then go vote for Trump traitor
Ahhhh the Joe is too old “Before Times”.
To think I thought THIS was the most exciting part of the election , what a time to be alive 😂
Oh man, I know the content pipeline is always backlogged, but seeing your first video on Pod Save America channel after the Trump shooting not be about that is rough.
lol for real
What we all would agree on that, I believe, is that it was probably not staged by any party and it was a great event for Trump's campaign. I don't fully understand how US' politics work, but it similarly happened in other countries prior to their election and that had a huge influence and most of the times determined the victim as the winner. 2018 Brazil, I believe Ecuador 2-3 years ago etc.
They have to wait for coverage instructions before they can cover relevant issues.
Probably should have delayed this video, doesn't make sense to release it
What could they possibly add to the coverage already online? How much opinion do you think PSA could spew about trumps assignation attempt? Some registered Republican became disenfranchised about trump and/or what he represents or fails to representative. Take your pick. The shooter was belatedly killed, an innocent bystander was killed, the FBI is investigating. End of story. As new information comes forward maybe there will be more to critique but until that time there’s not much to cover as PSA is not a breaking news reporting channel, they are an analytical and opinion oriented channel.
"screamed and cried for 20 minutes then calmed down and cooperated" is 100% the behavior of a toddler who does not want to go to bed.
Or a President
Sounds presidential to me
She has such a soft personality for such a rough subject she pursues.
The concept of turbulence said “hold my beer.”
Maybe not go on and on about the debate... most people have real problems
😢🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸
Once again an offline episode comes out almost completely irrelevant due to new news. Tough.
@@CZPC ✊🏾✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿
It says "offline" right in the title 😂😢
The shelf life of a podcast episode is about 12 hours
Some people in these comments don't seem to understand the concept of a pre-recorded episode
For real tho 🙄
" _Some_ people don't....."
Get over yourself.
_Some_ people don't understand the 'exotic' possibility of....... le gasp!...... a political commentary and news channel putting out a video about * the thing that really is the most important event * .
pre-recorded episodes don't work all that well in this supersonic news cycle
Just because they pre-record episodes does not mean they can't re-record parts of it. The Elle Reeve's interview was great, but the a-block shouldn't have been redone, it was bad.
You can pre-record an episode and then NOT release it when it's a terrible time to do so. Whoever thought it was a good idea to let this through then release nothing whatsoever for two days after the event made a huge mistake. This is a terrible look.
"biggest political moments of our lives" you couldn't pull this lololl
Elle Reeve and Donie O'Sullivan are the two best investigative journalists on CNN. They have a nonconfrontational way of interviewing those who they may not necessarily agree with. They genuinely listen to the people who they interview and ask probing - not accusatory - questions. The result is always an informative interview.
It’d be so great to move TF on from Biden is too old. Are we going be in this to win it or what?
How will you counter the protest vote?
Biden, in my opinion, isn’t sufficiently in it to win it. He said, roughly, as long as he does the “goodest” job he can do, if he loses, he’ll be fine. What kind of an attitude is that? IMO, it’s the attitude of someone who does not understand the stakes of this election. He is so arrogant at this point that he has said only God could convince him to stop running. His test for dropping out-someone shows him data that he CAN’T win-is impossible to pass. He isn’t acting rationally. He’s clinging to power. He wants to beat Trump, but he’s not willing to sacrifice his own power to do so.
@@beckyeastham9426 I don’t have power over that. I just know that constant test down isn’t helping.
I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat - Roy Rodgers
With respect, the great American humourist Will Rogers is the author of that witticism.
Cheers
@@kesart8378 You are correct, my mistake, at least I didn't credit Ginger
@idiotengineer7494
You know she used to tap dance in morse code, right? "J O E I S O L D B U T V O T E D E M."
@@kesart8378
Thanks, for a moment i was afraid I'd lost a neuron.
I know it’s prerecorded…….but…… this episode is falling on a def mind. I’m literally trying to pay attention to each word. I can’t hear it because what happened yesterday. I hate DT. I can’t think of a person that this may have happen to more than DT. It’s an outcome we all have dreamt of happening. Yet, I’m shaken with the feeling that THIS is all crumbling. It’s not a new feeling. It’s a feeling as old as civilization. Just like I was on J6th, I’m sad for America, I’m sad because no one will ever put their guards down. Now we’re forced like animals to hate the other.
While this was domestic occurrence, the whole world is watching us fall flat on our faces. The whole world knows that we don’t know what’s happening. The whole world knows it’s in chaos. Our culture is good for revolting, maybe not so much in the construction of modern thought.
Personally, I have been wanting Joe Biden to step aside since he was nominated as the Democratic candidate. I wanted Bernie first and foremost, then contentedly settled for Elizabeth Warren (both very sharp people) then was forced to vote for Biden. The Pod boys finally acknowledging the elephant in the room was such a relief and also validation for why I listen to and trust you guys. Keep fighting the good fight. We deserve a coherent and sharp candidate, at the VERY least.
What he said about opinion leaders having an effect even though us junkies are the onky ones paying attention is true. While we are the only ones paying attention, most of us have a small group of people who react to the political cues we give. So although the influence is delayed, it still exists. Because I am sure that this audience is posting on their social media accounts .
Republicans understand the importance of this which is why they invest in social media influencers.
I thought Joe Biden was different. But the more I listen to him the more upset I get.
He is sounding more like Trump everyday, “I alone can fix it, the media is after me, I don’t believe the polls”
Joe Biden will lose this election, there is zero enthusiasm for his campaign from young voters, swing voters and soft Republicans.
And after Saturday, forget about it, Trump looks stronger, energetic and full of vigor, Biden looks 100, cannot complete a sentence coherently, and honestly he looks like he’s going to have a health crisis at any second.
To me he is behaving egotistical, and selfishly, and the worst part is that he’s going to take the house and senate down with him, the party knows it and it’s doing crap about it!
I think this election has demonstrated a weakness in our incumbent primary process. We need a better process for leaders and voters to reconnect after four years.
Great conversation. Elle is amazing and so brave. Thank you ❤
The "deradicialization strategy" is PROSECUTION.
Being in jail isn't "cool"
I thought they would at least have some kind of message at the start of the episode about it. Weird.
What a time. I feel like this is the calm before something really unpredictable.
I feel deflated.
@@moe_bee Only because the person didn't succeed.
There's one in the video description, but yeah if i were them I'd have put something in the audio too
Terrifying.
PodSave folks?
This video is entirely _not_ what folk are thinking about right now.
I'm thinking of how the dude screwed up his one chance
@charlesmiv3842 It would be funny to see Trumps goon squad drag you away. Ngl
I listen and trust people in both sides of the "Should Biden stay or go?" and did watch the entire debate. I've been back and forth. The debate really threw me for a loop, but I've finally decided that I'm staying with Biden. The debate was horrendous and I didn't like that, when on Morning Joe, he used audio only. I would have preferred seeing him live. The Zelensky/Putin and Harris/Trump gaffs did not bother me as much. Gaffs are not unusual for him. I've come to my conclusion that a convention decision would be less than helpful and that I will stay with the incumbent. Harris will be there to back him up and take over if it becomes necessary. It is imperative that Trump is defeated. My major concern now is that Trump will or has already said that Democrats sent the shooter and that now Magas will take that as orders to get retribution.
My reaction has been very much like yours. We saw Joe pull it off before. Kamala will be available and would do very well.
i love you guys but you didn’t just talk about what you saw, toy talked about what we should do before checking in with the grassroots of our party. maybe you missed this - The latest numbers from PBS/NPR/Marist polls actually show that Mr. Biden is now leading former President Trump 50 to 48 in a head-to-head matchup. When third parties, however, are factored in, he slips slightly, but it's still a statistical dead heat there, with Trump at 43 percent, Biden at 42.- 2 days ago
is that a disposable starbuck’s plastic cup?! ok, as a parent, as a progressive, please prebut the potential thousand criticisms of this abjectly miserable consumer decision. thank you.
^ This is your consumer base, PSA.
I'm so fascinated for the people who say we need to drop Biden to provide a even slightly realistic play by play of what that process would look like and how the democrats would be able to decide on and unite behind another candidate in time for the deomacratic convention.
It's no good prioritising getting rid of Biden if the rest of you plan is based on vibes and magical thinking.
I honestly think so many democrats looking down the barrel of fascism in America have just lost their minds with fear.
If you want a candidate that can assure you, things will be fine tough. That candidate does not exist.
People like me get very frustrated at those who want Biden out not out of some strange loyalty or tribe behaviour (but thanks for that patronising dismissal) it's because there is no realistic plan as to how to do it and then resolve it without handing the election to trump.
You'd make lousy doctors, if you can't help then the least you can do is no harm.
People may choose to don blinders and deny the awful truth of Biden's debate debacle. That is their right. But they do not have the right to denounce those who acknowledge the truth, and call for remedies, as disloyal, ungrateful, cruel sorts who lack the decency to rush to protect great-granda Joe Biden from criticisms and challenges.
You can criticise Biden all you'd like, go nuts. But that doesn't insulate you from criticism that your goal is to overturn an election and force out the candidate that millions and millions of people showed up to vote for. Nor does it make your idea of replacing him with *just 29 days* between the convention where a new candidate would be picked and early voting starting, any less impossible.
Joe Biden is insanely old, and literally everybody knows that. Every single person who showed up in the primary, and checked off Biden's name instead of Phillips or anyone else knew he was old, that is not new information to anyone. But you seem to think you're just going to be able to insult the rest of us into getting your forcing your way. It's not "speaking truths", it's just the same 'burn it all down, consequences be damned', attitude that Trump and his supporters have been pushing for nearly a decade now.
@@--Dan-
Thank you.
Yeah jon who exactly do you think we can switch to that the entire democratic party and independents will somehow miraculously all support.
This channel has comment sections full of 'Blue no matter who'.
Put up a candidate who would be able to get first time and independents on side (and that really is not Biden) AND you'll have the 'vote Dem up and down the ticket' folk
@@Tao_Tologyike who.
Great job John! Really good interview. I’m gonna try to be more positive. I don’t know what else to do. I’m at a loss. I really am. I’m sorry these are really scary times.❤
Jon, stop talking about Kamala as an alternative. Talk to anyone inside the Biden administration (besides her aides, of course, who depend on her for a job) and see what they really think about that , off the record. Don’t hold on to her as proof of your goodness against your detractors.
I'm just going to skip the a-block. I just literally can't do yet another "Biden old" episode from you guys...
Why are we talking about abandoning the primary process and taking the choice of the democratic nominee out of the hands of voters instead of talking about running a 3rd Party candidate? Is it because we are concerned about a split vote by Democrats? Isn’t it just the job of all the people who want a new candidate to convince those who still want to back Biden to switch?
Better Help is exploitative and untrustworthy.
Elle Reeve is incredibly well spoken and impressive. Please be careful out there, Elle.
Corporations are people, but not citizens. The court concluded that corporations are “persons” within the meaning of the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Yet the Court has been quite reticent to concede that corporations are “citizens” for the purpose of the Privileges and Immunities Clause.
Watch a corporate facade slip: LIVE: Michael Cohen REACTS to BREAKING NEWS | MeidasTouch
I do realize you are not in the horse race journalism business, but there have been developments THREE days ago that kinda need commenting...
her work is amazing
Jon, I know what happened changes a lot, but keep going. And we're with you.
Thank you for your coverage!
Weirdly all these videos of a much younger Joe Biden have begun to appear on my CZcams feed...😮
Wow. She has a background like me. Growing up urban and then rural in the south. ❤❤❤
I think it’s more an issue of white men not having experienced racism and sexism. They can’t fully grasp its impact and pervasiveness. It’s for that reason that they don’t recognize that Harris would not be a good contender. It sucks a ton, but this is the society we live in.
I think it's a pretty blanket statement to say that they haven't experienced racism or sexism
@@gmonz11 White men? Um, yeah. And it’s a blanket statement that I stand by… White male privilege a very real thing. I can assure you it’s not a figment of collective oppressed groups’ imaginations. If you want to believe that you’re discriminated against, go right ahead. But I think a better use of your time would be to appreciate the status that you were born into, and didn’t earn, that has afforded you innumerable opportunities denied to millions. Get a clue, dude.
And if you’re not white, the power of the penis still trumps race. Look at who’s been elected president and who hasn’t.
Regarding the debate
Many people had a concept of Joe Biden and he performed worse that that.
Many people had a concept of Trump and he performed somewhat better than that.
The polls won't move much, these are the two choices.
45 performed better? You mean telling 24 verified lies after a day playing golf vs zero lies told by President Biden is winning the debate? People are "not seeing the forest for the trees."
Thanks guys
Great episode, still think Biden needs to step aside in this post assassination attempt world.
The irony of seeing him confused about being called a racist the first time he has a thought outside the mainstream Dems party line is hilarious. Peddling identity politics is what he's been doing his entire career, now he knows what its been like for the rest of us the last 20 years.
8:48 you realize the United States is a constitutional republic - right?
Okay stop for a moment and tell us as democrats how to get the DNC to nominate a new presidential candidate!! Do we write our congressman? Do we sign a petition?? Help us out.
You guys need to find another talking point. If the question is WHO can win this conversation should have happened a year ago. I'm done with this episode and maybe subscription. But glad you're feeling good about yourself Jon.
Me too!
I skipped to the interview. All the handwringing about Joe is Late. This is it.
What about Trump's plane, the Russian diplomatic plane and the Saudi plane sitting next to each other for three days at Dulles before and after the debate? Reports of individuals walking from one plane to another. Then, just before the Philly mess, Trump flagrantly meeting with Orban who announced himself as an emissary for Putin. Come on! Quit dumping on Biden and expose this traitorous republican candidate. Get some survivors of Japanese internment on, brown people are being targeted for camps (and gladiator rings 😮) Please! Focus on the actual threat. Birth right citizenship is a 14th amendment to establish black skaves as citizens, the t-word might not know, but whomever fed him the line knows. The campaign is trying unsuccessfully to explain NATO to Trump and he is incapable of comprehending what they are saying. The threat is NOT JOE! The threat is DJT.
This, it's so unbelievably insulting. 'We are right, you are wrong'. The media wasn't elected, nobody required them to speak on behalf of anyone.
@@thebookelf2135A candidate who is so unpopular that they may well lose to trump really IS a threat.
Psa needs to get out of THEIR bubble. Yes the debate sucked. But Biden is not going anywhere. It is beyond time that this story be put behind us. The only person that can beat Trump is Biden. Full stop. This ongoing debate is killing our chances!!
@crookedmedia - I'm not on Twitter /X or Threads, but I have really appreciated you sharing your honest viewpoint. I have been on other channels on YT looking for some clear conversation with folks who you see occasionally on MSNBC or CNN and been extremely frustrated by the gaslighting twist post-debate. So, thank you for being honest. The ONLY downside, and maybe it is not a downside, I now have lost respect for many of my previously favorite pundit/politicians. I almost lost Psaki, but she came around. :) It has been very revealing to see the similarities to MSNBC and Fox post-debate with a few exceptions, many of those you mentioned. I hate to say it, but I've never watched "The Lead" more than I have the past 2 weeks. All that to say, the affect of this conversation has made me feel like we have a SLIVER of hope to look towards the future. But, trying to keep the status quo so incredibly demoralizing.
Really? I had hoped this topic would be OVER after the everyone was fed a new topic yesterday. I'm done listening to ANYONE talking about this. How about comparing the monsters record to Joe's record. It's the STATS that matter and don't lie.
I know you understand what's at stake. Please produce intelligently.
Thank you Pod Save America continuing to pursue Biden resigning ~ you are a lone and very important voice right now. Don't cave !!!
Yes - Jason Crow was on Face the Nation this morning and it seems like this conversation ain't over
Lol, yeah keep having the conversation with your damn selves @@siobhansignet5256
I wonder if Trumps ability to listen will be effected by ear injury.
When you count how many voters see your commentary you also have to figure in that a lot of people outside the US are watching you. There is people from outside the US in the comments all the time.
I find it incredibly suspicious that Spotify rolled out their update that upended the commenting on podcasts in-app. Used to be Q&A, but they claim now that will be comment section. However, now can't leave comments either way. If someone on the @crooked team sees this, please allow comments on Spotify again
Take me back
I’m glad it came back to this. It’s a really good episode.❤
Irrelevant now
Back on topic: our independent authorities have done a terrible job of holding wrong-doers accountable. DOJ utterly failed in prosecuting Trump. That is essentially Biden's failure + contributes to our sense now that Biden's "too slow to respond" - which he is . (Biden has to go even more now post-PA.)
Yes! And, now all of the sudden he's everywhere seemingly bending over backwards to help look into this horrible event which only benefits Trump. Where was all this "jumping" to action when we were talking about SCOTUS taking away our rights to abortion or even January 6th. It comes across like he's following Trump's lead instead and a response based in fear. It's horribly depressing.
Bro, if you’re unable to read a Supreme Court decision maybe don’t comment on that topic? Conservative justices all gave Trump full immunity he asked for & his motives can never be questioned.
Even the gangs and mafia protect women and children. Not condoning any of this wrongdoing, stating a truth
Elle Reeve has the smoothest voice ever. I'm gonna create an AI voice from her to read books to me. 🤗
Great interview too!
1:03:30 «race and culture cannot be separated» would be a lot more persuasive of an argument if it wasn’t coming from people who have invented their race [“white”] and aren’t even speaking the language of their cultural heritage [German, Polish, Hungarian, French, Dutch, Swedish, Italian, Gaelic, Greek, etc.].
Yeah, obviously some white nationalists have a 100%-English cultural heritage, but they’re still happy to ignore that most of their compatriots don’t, in order to support the fiction that “white” isn’t an invented grouping and has a distinct cultural heritage that is so broad and ecumenical it can include basically all of Europe, the US and Canada, and Australia and New Zealand, yet also so specific and narrowly drawn that people who’ve lived in those societies for centuries or millennia aren’t part of it.
By your own criteria Black culture in the USA is just as a fake and made up, none of them speak the languages or remember the original traditions of their ethnic groups, but that doesn’t make the new black culture not a genuine culture. It’s just as invented as whiteness, even if it’s older and more robust than contemporary ‘white’ culture
Whoa, Debra Whitman is a real person?!
Trump just picked a young writer that has name recognition and comes from a poor background as VP. Couple that with the news from this weekend. We're cooked.
You guys speaking your mind right after the debate and then turning around to support Biden soon after was very telling. 😂
Yeah, it means they are honest and despite the Dem candidate imperfections Trumpism undermines democracy.
@@belkyhernandez8281 'honest' ?
Haaaaahahaha, no.
Ramble ramble poll poll. The polls show them basically tied
The voters have been saying they are not comfortable with Biden's age for more than a year - Poll or Focus Group - that is the data. The way the media covers polling is extremely annoying -but we can glean something from the directionality of the polling and focus groups. They all are trending in the same direction - Trump is going to win in the key swing states we need - Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. If you'd like to offer another roadmap to Biden winning - please! I'm all ears.
@@siobhansignet5256 see the red wave
@@siobhansignet5256the most recent polls all are within the margin if error. Its basically tied. And has been for months.
@@leighalaughlin4056 I didn't see one - you're correct on that - but this is not something Biden can get out of because AGE comes for all of us. Too many Americans have seen the decline with their own eyes and can relate to their own personal experience with their parents/grandparents. They RESONATE with what they saw and that's not going away.
@@wcoasttigger the national polls? What polls are you referring to because 1 out 3 Democrats want Biden to step down.
🏳️🌈Had you guys said anything other than what you did say right after the debate, I would have written you off as political hacks and unsubscribe from your channel. I listen because you tell the truth.🏳️🌈
hi guys any thoughts on political narration on ASSASINATION!
First half of the show: what political podcasts say online have no impact on what normies think or how they vote
Second half of show: young men are being influenced and radicalized by what people are saying online
Well I think those two observations are still coherent cause *no-one* would argue people hanging out in radicalising spaces is a normie. 4 chan, 8 chan/8 kun and others are not for the normies AT ALL, even if they're the ones the normies know most about. There's others I'm sure.
Like dude if you happily identify yourself as the toxic variety of incel, or a fascist or a white nationalist, there is nothing *normie* about you.
Post link to this poll that you keep speaking of
what do you feel regarding the Election Professor's prediction model and the whole incumbency thing? His plan B is that Biden steps down and lets Harris step in, she gains the incumbency halo and then wins??
This was mainstream belief about free speech because this was mainstream belief in First Amendment scholarship. That is partly because the idea freedom from governmental interference with speech always had an inherent contradiction. It is no big deal to protect fringe speech that is not very effective. It is when it is effective that then the government often finds an exception applies that lets it intervene. But the philosophy and scholarship has (to my mind) always been caught short or flat-footed in trying to deal with speech by powerful nongovernmental entities-like advertisers or the Heritage Foundation.
Absolutely excellent interview.
Curious as to why she's practically whispering through this entire interview?
People spend less time on polls than interacting, like I'm doing now, on your pod, or social media. Suggestion: tap into where the opinions are being collected. Heads up the owners are already doing it.
I cared, but also didn't care, WHAT anyone thought when I saw the shitshow debate, I HAD to weigh in on it.
More interviews with those studying Fascism and how some movements have been able to stop them please.
The idea that people who come from Mexico City vs. people who come from Anglo-Saxon countries have different cultures isn't racist at all, that's what culture _is._ The difference is whether you think it's good or bad that different cultures mix together, whether one _pollutes_ another or they _enhance_ each other.
The idea that culture is passed down genetically, though, is obviously stupid _(and presumably racist since the racists seem to believe it)._ People who think culture works like that must never have met a white person who grew up in a black neighborhood or an American who grew up in Japan or the UK or South Africa. Culture is place and people and what they do and how they act.
The whole discussion of "culture" and whether one is superior to the other _(and the neo-Nazi assumption that white "culture" is the best)_ reminds me of my favorite Teddy Roosevelt quote: "Comparison is the thief of joy." One culture doesn't need to be "better" than another. They can all be good and valuable and amazing in their own ways. The one you grew up with will probably mean the most to you, but other cultures are great too. Nobody needs to defend the "white race", or "Western European culture" or any of that BS. We can just enjoy what we have and what other people contribute.
Hey! That Shapiro sounded very Presidential or Vice Presidential today - don't you think? I really liked what he had to say and the way he said it.
It doesn't matter what the audience wants. If you're in the news business, you need to tell the truth unless you want to become Fox News.
Gang, love the show. Do some research on Better Help, maybe pick a better sponsor? They are very shady, multiple class actions, HIPPA issues, etc.
Would some kind person please tell me who Max is?
I'm almost tempted to Google coconut pills now.