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Was a 3-4 o’clock carrier for a couple decades, but with some of the newer technology, switched over to appendix carry about 3 years ago and haven’t looked back since, mainly for the retention. As a guy, the place I notice the greatest improvement in feeling secure is when standing at a urinal - both hands in front are still guarding my firearm, whereas side-carry always left me feeling much more vulnerable since both hands were in front of me.
One thing he didn't mention is that with AIWB you always have a visual on the status of the gun. When I carry 4 o'clock I have to physically check with my hand to make sure its still concealed correctly or is printing. If my shirt is riding up or whatever. When in appendix, I always know what's going on, and I am the only one who can get to it.
If you use the right holster, where the weapon is completely tucked in, no one will know you are packing...ergo you have all the time necessary to retrieve it and defnd yourself, your partner or others! One should ALWAYS carry in the same location, so as to NOT HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHERE THE GAT IS! It may save your life. It did mine...NYPD RET.
This has been one the best and most balanced presentations on this highly debated topic. Great job, Mr. Ayoob. Thank you very much. I carry strong arm OWB because of training and simply years of duty and CCW. Basically, habit.
I agree, I'm 52 & a ccw user, licensed G armed officer 👮🏼♂️. I don't feel A-IWB carry is best but can see why newer, younger thin guys, gals. I'm left handed & used OWB for around 25+ years.
@@DavidLLambertmobile I'm new to concealed carry and I'm slowly working up the courage and confidence to appendix carry. The gun pointed at my balls all day really makes me nervous lmao ; P
@@randalthor6872 I carry AIWB, my gun isn't "pointed at my balls", the barrel points just outside the balls, when I sit, the end of the barrel points between the scrotum and inner thigh. I've got some pretty serious low back issues and appendix carry is the most comfortable method I've found. I carry an IWI Masada Tactical (4.6" barrel, 17+1 capacity) and I find AIWB to be very comfortable. Just use a quality holster and never get in a hurry to holster the weapon, always check to make sure the holster is clear, watch the gun go in and make sure no loose straps or clothing went in with it. Once properly holstered, the gun is as safe as it can be, if it's pointed at your balls it makes no difference, it won't go off on its own out of the blue. The 'accidents' (negligent discharges) occur during holstering or drawing. Do those two things properly and AIWB is just as safe as any other carry method. Of course, no matter which way you decide to carry, you should still strive to always do those two things properly and safely. Try several carry methods, see which you find best for concealment, comfort and access. AIWB is my preferred method and most people I know who tried it stuck with it.
I think its the best way period anyways but I don't like walking around with an exposed OWB gun. It makes people feel very uncomfortable unless you're a cop and I'm not trying to make other people afraid or feel unsafe.
Im a woman. With a large chest. I'm having a hard time deciding where to carry. I'm have a lil squish, beer belly. I think appendix carry is what is best for me. I'm still trying to sort it out. Thanks WC. I love the context. As always.
If it helps anyone hesitant to carry- When I started carrying appendix, I carried it empty (completely unloaded) but racked for about a month or so. If there were any kinks in my protocol, wardrobe, sitting posture, seat belt interference, restroom situation , etc. I'd find out w no consequence & gain some confidence & peace of mind. After a while of everyday scenarios & finding that the trigger had not dropped, I started carrying loaded but "dry racked". A month or so of that I had sufficient confidence to go ahead & carry Condition 1 with no real increase in anxiety or concern, though I still use the same care, attention, & strict diligence that I did on Day 1. Hope that's useful. Be safe.
I appendix carry every day. I did however opt for a p365 with the manual safety due to what I perceived was a trigger weight a little light for concealed carry. I've trained that manual safety into every draw and always have one in the pipe.
There's at least one secondary advantage to AIWB, in my opinion. Because it's intrinsically uncomfortable to wear AIWB while sitting, I've found that my seated posture is best when carrying appendix. I don't slouch forward; I keep my lower back and lower abs slightly engaged; I sit further forward in my seat and have better foot placement on the ground.. It makes a small but noticeable difference over the course of a day. Thanks for the video. Always nice to see Mas give us some of that 50-year wisdom most of us can only hope to have someday.
Yeah, I could see how this could be beneficial for some people with a posterior pelvic tilt with head forward posture and cue them to bring themselves back up into alignment.
Depends on body type. I could not stand sitting with my gun at 4 o'clock, especially driving which was torture! I can sit AIWB just as comfortably as when I'm not carrying.
Thanks so much. I'm 73 and have been carrying strong side OWB so long that I truthfully just don't want to change. I really look forward to all of your videos.
Yes. The shoulders back and watching the gun holstering is the way. You should have time for this whether at the range or after an incident is over. Excellent. Thank you.
I believe the popularity with appendix carry has helped bring favor back to DA/SA hammer-fired guns. A decocked hammer fired gun is a great option if considering appendix carry, IMO.
That's exactly why I appendix carry a da/sa. I have a few options, all sigs for carry. My p224 is more of a summer gun because I can wear just a tshirt, and then in months I can wear a jacket, thicker long sleeve shirts, hoodies, etc I choose between a p239 and a p229 depending on where I'm going. I don't think I would ever carry a p365 or other striker fired guns in that location.
One day I'm watching one of his old videos, back when political correctness wasn't a thing and he just shouts "in America if you suck a c**k once you're a c*k sucker forever!" I just bursted with laughter
I am glad Mas mentioned muzzle blast as a hazard. Most don't mention it and even if, during an AIWB unintended discharge, the bullet misses vital bits, the MB is still going to wreak havoc and still many penetrate through to vital arteries. FTR, I use AIWB upon occasion and even put together my own AIWB rig when I could not find what I wanted ready-made.
I carry about 11 o’clock with a right hand draw. It’s easier for me to draw with either hand if necessary. I also must have a manual safety when carrying up front. It’s a mental thing for me to know 100% the pistol won’t go off when pointed at such a vulnerable area.
If you carry a pistol with a grip safety and carry appendix you can put thumb on top basically on rear site and slide pistol in nicely without depressing the grip safety. Its comforting having a little backup (safety) in a dicey situation (rehostering).
I've carried at 3 O'clock to 4:30 for over 50 years. I appreciate the advantages of appendix carry, but it's just not for me. Also, I always trained to twist away from an attacker, so that my gun and shooting arm are out of his reach. The late 60s is not a good time of life to start retraining things that have become instinctive.
At age 62, arthritic, and being a tad chunky with a “slight” beer belly, IWB carry is strictly a no-go. Plus, no matter what size, age or fitness level a person is, ya gotta buy your britches 2” larger than the size you normally wear. Oh, to be 26 and have a 30” waist again.
I find that I'm only comfortable with Aiwb when using a revolver. Both from a safety and a comfort position. A longer gun or one less curved just doesn't work for me. Interesting to think that back when a lot of guys justshoved a gun into the waistband. Pants were worn four or five Inches higher. Doing that I could probably caryy a full size 1911 comfortably.
Personally, I only feel comfortable running an AIWB when it’s an SA/DA hammer-fired gun. I bought a 365 shortly after they fixed the pin drag issue and loved the gun, but I ended up selling it because I ALWAYS stressed while holstering it AIWB.
I personally prefer 3-4 o’clock. I am quicker drawing and going on target that way, since it is how I have practiced drills for years. That’s said appendix is better for concealment as it doesn’t print as much, but my most sacred rule is not to point the gun at myself or anyone else, and appendix breaks that rule for me.
I carry a Glock 19, a Glock 17 and a S&W M&P appendix. The M&P has the external thumb safety, and the Glocks both have Striker Control Devices so I have positive tactile confirmation to help prevent AD's while holstering. So far so good...
I primarily carry strong side hip. 330-4 o'clock position, but find appendix to be nice, because it's quick. Especially if I'm taking the holster and sidearm out a lot, i.e. going to the bank/post office. I also like the appendix carry much better with a tuckable holster with dress clothes. It is very important to be informed, aware, and trained with any style you choose. Very good video.
You are right! Just about everyone else is so pro- or anti-appendix carry that almost no one points out the benifits and risks. I was hoping to see some discussion of single action as a manual safety in my option would make this mode of carry much safer.
Meh. I AIWB carry a Glock 19. Between the firing pin safety, trigger safety, and drop safety, I feel pretty comfortable with it pointed at my junk. The striker isn’t pre cocked, either. No way it’s going off on its own. I trust that way more than a manual safety that can be switched off or is prone to mechanical failure.
@@seann2769 Did you watch the video? The risk is holstering with something on your belt or the tail of your shirt or something else getting jammed in the trigger guard. No one is talking about guns going off spontaneously.
I drive for a living so I spend a lot of time in my car. I found that in order to draw from a behind the hip holster while sitting in a bucket car seat I had to lean forward to create enough space to get a grip on the pistol. If an assailant is at your driver's side car window when you draw, by leaning forward you're exposing the back of the head and neck to them. You also can't effectively use your weak hand to fend off an attacker while drawing. An appendix holster offers a far easier draw while seated and doesn't compromise your ability to defend with the weak hand while drawing.
I think that the quick draw aspect of it has been given way too much emphasis nowadays...if you ask me I'd say that the "quickest draw" is being aware of your surroundings (I.e. not using your phone for that "one" second).
@@boomee78 catching a negligent discharge in the ass or outer thigh is a whole different story than catching one in the femoral artery, or bob and the twins, or both. The consequences are definitely not the same.
@johny9516 First of all, not everyone puts the holster way back like Mas does. i haven't seen one person. I have seen first hand what can happen, unfortunately, twice on the job. Unfortunately, you can hit your femoral artery not everyone carries like mass does so that i disagree with you.
I'm a huge proponent of this carry for speed and comfort. I prefer to use a hammer fired pistol and/or a 1911 or 2011 so that I know when I'm reholstering (slowly if at all) that I know where the action is. With my H&K P30sk I keep my thumb on the closed hammer and with my Stacatto C2 I make sure the slide safety is engaged and I use a weak grip so that the grip safety is NOT engaged when I put it back in the holster. Thanks Mas for your years of knowledge. I can't wait to take one of your classes in person.
As a small guy I just pocket carry the old LCP Max. I can bring it anywhere without a metal detector with two spare 12 round mags (37 justice packets in total) even in small summer shorts. Sometimes in the winter when I'm wearing heavy clothing I'll carry appendix or 4 o'clock with a compact, but not often as it is far less comfortable. I know some people wouldn't be okay with the level of stopping power but the reliability and accuracy is actually pretty astounding, and shot placement even with a 45 is the most important thing. The amount of reps I've done to be smooth out of the pocket is high and I practice with snap caps every day to keep myself in good shape. If you value true invisibility and the ability to constantly have your EDC I highly recommend putting in the training effort and getting over the ego hit of carrying such a small gun.
Agreed. Too many horror stories, and I can draw faster form 3 o’clock anyways. Every single person that I know that shot their genitals off, or died (as result of blood loss) from an accidental/negligent discharge in the holster, were appendix carrying.
I carry AIWB a full-size 9mm with a light attached, no undergarments, have ran 1/2 a mile with it with no discomfort, and can wear just a tanktop without it being noticeable
Excellent topic! For myself; however, and because of surgeries, it is highly uncomfortable to have anything pressing against my lower abdomen. In some cases, it is even uncomfortable to have anything on my belt that would drag it down. I started wearing Perry suspenders to prevent that from happening. My normal carry these days is either in a shoulder rig or offside cross-draw carry, which while not ideal, is better than not carrying at all. Aside from that, the cant of the cross-draw holster is very comfortable when sitting and positions the muzzle of my firearm on the hipbone and not at my femoral artery. I suffer from poor blood circulation, and restricting a major right to left femoral bypass does not appeal to me, which appendix carry could do.
Appendix carry isn't comfortable at all unless you are 21 - 30 years old and 6' 1' 150 pounds soaking wet. Most of the guys who do it are very scrawny thin.
@@oklahomahank2378 I have no issue with pocket carry, given the right pistol/holster/pocket combination. In fact, as I am typing this a Hellcat is residing in a DeSantis Nemesis holster in my right pants pocket. I have also carried in a cargo pants pocket and vest pocket.
@@RangeRoninChronicles At the moment I have my LCP max in a Vedder pocket locker in my pocket. I like the Vedder. I have some other pocket holsters but I like the security of a form fitting Kydex.
Good video…I’ve been carrying my K frame size snub .357 for over 20 yrs here in Texas. Works great for me! There’s only two types of weapons I would carry this way, a revolver or DA/SA pistol. The rest would either OWB or IWB strong side.
I've always held the belief we should look at our gun as we put it back in the holster regardless of where it's sitting. It's too easy for clothing to slip in at the same time. And if you're putting it back in the holster that means you've determined the threat to be over so taking that one second to look is a none issue. I see zero need to be tacticool while holstering, just my opinion for a added layer of safety.
This is going to be GOOD I have to come back and watch this and totally scrutinize. I was an NRA LEO Instructor for 20+ years and NEVER promoted shooting my package. Until I retired and won a SASS Championship. Speed, Movement, Control and Safety. I have seen a shooter draw a lead line down the outside of his trousers. No finger poke in til proper! I Carried a very long time until I trusted myself enough and felt proficient enough. Rule of thumb for me is Carry THE PLACE WHERE YOU TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN. After all that's where you will be looking for her! Do not "police" brass while shooting!
@bmaxse emptying your spent shells,collect in hand and place safely in your pocket where you wouldn't trip on them. They would fight them in wounded Officers pockets. One ALWAYS REVERTS TO TRAINING UNDER PRESSURE
I think it’s your gaze that makes your words so powerful, when I look into your eyes I can’t help but treat your words with the utmost respect and diligence. Your a very wise man and it shows.
For me, the main problem with appendix carry is sweeping the femoral artery. Especially when sitting. That can be fatal, even if everything else about it is great.
@Loanword Eggcorn he's off on alot of his stuff. He always mentions the bad and never how to get out of it. It's all basic stuff he mentions. On my channel I started I will be going over realism.
@@ruffianotv The format here is brief. I think we agree that one can't cover everything in a few minutes. Mas got the basics right. He definitely mentioned major benefits of Appendix carry too.
After 2 back surgeries several years ago, carrying strong side became uncomfortable as it aggravated the hip pain I was operated on to remedy. After repeated suggestions (!) from my wife to find another way to carry I decided to try appendix.I read about it and watched several videos. I found it surprisingly comfortable, even with a full sized pistol. Sitting, driving, walking around, has been no problem. I usually carry a Springfield Hellcat Pro with a Holosun RDS. It wors for me.
"showing the pros and cons"- exactly why I fell in love with your channel. With all of your content, you seem to not let emotions dictate the info you provide, and look at all sides of every story. Great info- thank you!
Question for the team: Do you or anyone you know carry full-size pistols in AIWB carry? I have only seen compacts or subcompacts. Plus, I don't think I've ever seen a revolver (though I imagine a Ruger LCR or the like would be practical)? I just *love* Massad Ayoob's advice and the way he expresses himself! I also think very highly of this gentleman! Thank you again for having him, Wilson Combat. I will be frank; Ayoob, and not your fine pistols, is the #1 reason I have Subscribed to your channel. Your firearms are worth thousands of dollars, but Ayoob? He is genuinely priceless. =)
I carry a p10c aiwb in am ANR design holster with 17 round magazine. No issue but the p365 is more comfortable sitting down. I’m about 40/60 p10/p365. It’s what you get used to
I carry a 1911 in aiwb, 2 spare mags on the left hip. I'm a stout person so it doesn't print with a good polo shirt and like Mas says, the belt has to be a little higher. It took some getting used to but I wouldn't change it now. I have considered getting a compact little 9mm for when I'm working hard, but haven't felt the need to do so.
I carry an IWI Masada Tactical, 4.6" barrel with 17 + 1 capacity, AIWB. I have some pretty serious low back issues with some permanent nerve damage in my low back causing constant leg pain. If I carry IWB anywhere on the hip, it causes me a lot of pain that I don't get with appendix carry. I think it's because the hip is hard, a belt to keep the holstered gun stable and against the body puts too much side pressure on the lower back while the abdomen is soft and gives so the belt doesn't need to be as tight and doesn't create uneven side pressure on the low back. There seems to be better weight distribution too. Whatever the reason, my personal experience with AIWB carry has been great. It's comfortable, the gun is easy to access and easy to conceal. I personally love AIWB carry. It may not be for everyone but it's definitely my preferred way to carry.
Particularly useful at newer movie theaters that have large, plush seats that recline. It can be difficult to get to a belt gun in those big seats. I always have a 642 in an appendix holster when I go to the theater, and usually my G19 on the belt. This way, if I have to draw from a seated position, I have an easy-access option.
Great advice. You HAVE to treat AIWB with the respect it deserves. Build that safety protocol (especially the draw and reholster motions) into muscle memory as part of your dry fire practice. That should be the absolute BARE MINUMUM you do if you're carrying AIWB!
i carry appendix, and when holstering gun i almost always take holster out, put gun in and after that i put holstered gun back into appendix carry, only when gun is empty after safety check and magazinless, i put gun directly into appendix carried holster
I've appendix carried after many unsuccessful attempts to find the place that felt good to me and accommodated my edc. I've been doing it for years and I never change up the gun. I like consistency.
Probably the number one reason I carry appendix is gun security. You are not going to get my gun without me knowing . Great channel with wonderful advice!
I carried a 5-shot .44 cal revolver in an open top leather holster at the 4:00 position for many years until I developed a fatty tumor in that location. Now I carry in the 10:00 or 11:00 position. Much easier to access the weapon, even when seated. I'm 81 years old now and am trying to adjust to carrying the P365 XL. Much easier to carry but so far that is all I can say about it. I had full confidence in my .44 revolver. Later on I bought a S&W 646 and loved it. Most natural pointing handgun I've ever owned, and I carried it a good bit. But it is a little bulky for summer use. Now, I'm trying to make the XL work.
Massad Ayoob, old school wisdom with modern tech savvy. In the gravest extreme is a great book I that have bought many times over as gifts, my trust is that solid. Thanks for the deep dive sir!
Things have a reason in a sensible World. Whilst its a bit of a stretch to assert the World has any sense - at all! At least there is a clear reason why Mr Ayoob has been a voice worth lending an ear for... well for respectful diplomacy to 'age' ( for both of us! ) shall we simply call it decades. I carried for my Govt and listened politely to all the ( brief ) training. But stayed whole, sane and effective because I paid assiduous attention to this man. Perhaps dating things to say my issue 158 gr LRN 38's got swapped for Federal 125grn SJHP 357! I m sure its been said, I m sure I ve said it. But at risk of worthwhile repetition - thank you Mr A.
Flashbang Holster bra carry. Not particularly fast, but the perp doesn't also probably assume you are carrying, being a female. Fairly comfy for a smaller gun. Even works for small gals. Thanks for all your info! 😎
A holster-bra? How creative! I once heard of a holster demonstration involving a lovely long-haired lady wearing only a swimsuit while on the stage. When she drew, the pistol appeared from underneath all that hair. For most guys and some gals? That was probably the last place they were looking - but wow! Talk about catching the crowd by surprise! =)
@@PurrsPlace It's actually a holster that fits inside the bra and snaps around the very middle of the bra, so you can wear your own bra. It's very secure and totally trigger protected and easy to draw. It's very comfortable. I think it's totally practical.
To my way of thinking one of the most useful methods is driver's style cross draw. Access is easy from any position but especially seated and the more horizontal orientation minimizes concerns of too short of cover garment exposing the goods. As a bonus the muzzle is pointed in a direction that reduces the chances of Glocking one's self. Alas, holster makers seem to disagree.
Being a little bit of a bigger guy I have found apendix is amazing get a kore belt go up one size and order a big guy holster from bordertown holsters. When I go sit I adjust my belt over belly when I'm driving or sitting and obviously put the seat belt behind the firearm.
Good information Sir . I converted to that type of carry a good while back and can't remember when . It is very comfortable to me . I carry a Glock 26 and a spare magazine.
@@kevinrhodes3902. He or she didn’t answer. I have both tier one concealed and T Rex holsters for my 26. Both are good, I prefer the Tier One. Be prepared to spend some time adjusting the clips up or down and trying a wedge and a claw in different places and sizes.
I agree with many of the potential issues with the AIWB, but I would say that there are some training techniques to overcome the issues of single handed draw. I prefer to keep my dominant hand wide open an sliding it under my cover garment, as this allows me to use the back of my hand to lift the garment. I have trained this way for some time, and don't have the garment snag on anything. I also don't mind AIWB without an under garment, but this was just a matter of getting used to the feeling. Great video.
There are quite a few resources out there with various methods for one-handed appendix draw. I’ve found (giving all a fair and lengthy trial) that fir me personally, I do much better with a circular or elliptical type thumb motion to clear my cover garment. Gotta put in the practice though, but it can be done pretty effectively, though obviously not as quick as two handed. And there are also various two handed methods as well that are worth the practice to get proficient at. Last, I absolutely couldn’t agree more with your hips forward, firearm grip against the belly, muzzle angled outward, reholstering technique! In some situations, I’ll even remove the holster to reholster the firearm (being careful to not muzzle my support hand either). Definitely the scariest part of appendix carry! 😳
I don't know about Appendix Carry but I love Paul Harrell's comment on Small of the Back Carry, he said nothing good could come from something called the SOB position.
great video. i do carry IWB appendix carry. i practice my draw, while grabbing the gun, my trigger finger is along the slide, my thumb is pushing the safety forward at the same time. my finger never touches the trigger unless i plan on discharging a round or 3. when i do leave the house, if my gun isn't there i feel naked. never leave home without it!
My simple way for appendix carry first if you're right-handed move your belt buckle one pants look to the left opening up the front I carry a Smith & Wesson m&p shield 9 a concealed carry soft clip holder that offsets
I tried OTWB hip carry for about two weeks . I found it very uncomfortable just to carry it , sitting down or driving was very uncomfortable . I switched to appendix carry and never looked back , way more comfortable and I can even do my daily activities without any issues .
Good information. Just watched a Yankee Marshal vid I which he cited statistics showing that (suicides excluded) more people die from their own gun, than from being shot by someone else. He concluded that most self conflicted gun deaths happen from appendix carry and wanted to let people know of the significant risk involved with this carry option.
it is a position that the carrier has to be comfortable with like all the others and it has its own place/purpose, so try it and if it works it works... 🤠
Appendix carry never worked for me. I tried three very good holsters and two different guns. I was like a cat on a hot tin roof. After over a year of this experiment, I went back to the 2:30 position in an outside the pants holster I had carried for most of my life. For me, just speaking for only myself, that has always felt right. Also, going back to an external holster allowed me to carry a larger gun. In training, practicing draws and my friend timing me, I got the best times. I am short and stocky, barrel chested. Maybe if I were thin and tall that might be a good way to carry. I do not know.
coming from a 6'+ lanky guy, its pretty much impossible for me to do anything else other than appendix, especially if i only have a flannel or minimal clothing in warm weather
Same here I can make 2 o clock work concealed carry also and just enough to even cover most or all of gun, was able to chat with Howard Darby once and he had a influence on my carry concept, fitting in some aspects of quick draw in the way I carry, cheating is a good thing if your cheating to set up carry method for speed saving your life
I agree. Many years ago when I first started carrying I tried appendix carry and found it terribly uncomfortable. Sitting and bending are not comfortable with a gun poking into you.
@@richb.4374 It's not comfortable at all nor is it safe. It's a new "trend".....we all used Galco SS2 or Miami Classic shoulder holsters or 3:00 - 4:00 pancake holsters. IWB is ok if it's a smaller or very thin handgun ( GLOCK G-42/G-43/G-43X...SIG P-365, Taurus G3C etc etc), otherwise that is also very uncomfortable too.
I carry AIWB because it is the only option for me to completely conceal wearing a T-shirt with little to no printing. I carry a Glock 19 gen 5 with a RMR on top, not the biggest firearm, but it definitely prints in most positions unless I wear a hoodie.
I appendix carry most days of the week. I crawl under houses, up in attics, and drive hours at a time. Appendix is the only position that allows me to work and maintain concealment and retention and to have access while driving. I strong side hip carry when I’m wearing a suit or working outside. With appendix carry I can get to my gun while in tight confines like a residential hallway or closet. Clinch pick on the left of centerline and my 365XL on the right of centerline. And as far as re holstering goes, I can’t fathom a reason I would be in a hurry to holster the firearm after defensive use.
If I were to conceal carry apendix, my protocol for holstering would be to pull the holster free and holster the weapon pointed away from myself and others then replace the holstered weapon. This is easily done with a single clip holster.
Im a business guy, have to wear tucked in collared oxford style shirts. I carry AIWB Tukked. I would argue that unless you wa t to wear your suit or sport coat all day long then Appendix is the best solution for this. Id love to see a video on this topic
I carry a modified Appendix/crossdraw, left side about 10-11 oclock, right hand dominant. I never see it discussed and would like comments if there is a reason it is not done. I spend a lot of time seated in cars, and it works really well there. Aiwb not comfortable for me. Also, threats to retention would be 0:29 visible from front, no one sneaks up behind. Any ND would be outside of femoral artery area. Butt is a bit low, takes a distinct motion to grasp. Potential flagging of left side area. Otherwise, I love it, very comfortable, custom kydex/leather holster. I’d like comments. Kcj. Minnesota
Thanks for the insights and pro/con of wearing appendix carry holster. The safe holstering of a gun is often left out when others discuss the topic. I would add that the belt with your chosen appendix holster should be considered. Not all belts are the same with all holsters.
Excellent video. The accidental discharge is a hard learned lesson even for the professional. A good friend who was a firearms instructor blew a hole in his leg with a 44mag . He luckily missed the artery and recovered fairly quickly. It happened because of loss of focus and distraction while re-holster . I like the lean back technique .👍.
Mas your dry humor is what makes these videos…to us the rest is obvious 100% best info from one of the greats…some may not have much up front that could get n front of the gun either
After carrying 3-4 O’clock for over a decade, I switched to AIWB at 12, now I’m at the 1:30-2 position. Its way more easier to holster imo because you can completely see everything in front of you. Tilt back a little, push in my “tactical gear” a little, and guide it in place. If I’m carry my hammer fired gun then I get another layer of security by keeping my thumb over the hammer.
I appreciate that Wilson Combat is willing to use this channel for more than just advertising their products or services. They put aside time and use their experience to genuinely educate people in depth, entirely for free on a public platform. To Mr. Ayoob and the others who put out content for this channel, I appreciate you and I’m sure I don’t speak for just myself.
So well said. Allow me to second your comment!
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Was a 3-4 o’clock carrier for a couple decades, but with some of the newer technology, switched over to appendix carry about 3 years ago and haven’t looked back since, mainly for the retention. As a guy, the place I notice the greatest improvement in feeling secure is when standing at a urinal - both hands in front are still guarding my firearm, whereas side-carry always left me feeling much more vulnerable since both hands were in front of me.
You could always wait for the urinal on the far right (or far left).
@@theritchie2173 I just go into the stall as if I were taking a dump 😂
To each their own...but couldn't disagree more. Technology still hasn't come up with a replacement for man's plumbing.
I was always trained to use the stall when carrying.
@@Bar1putt yep so no red flag calls go out about seeing a man with a gun !
One thing he didn't mention is that with AIWB you always have a visual on the status of the gun. When I carry 4 o'clock I have to physically check with my hand to make sure its still concealed correctly or is printing. If my shirt is riding up or whatever. When in appendix, I always know what's going on, and I am the only one who can get to it.
Very good point. It never feels right when you need to try to casually feel the small of your back to make sure you’re not exposed.
Very good point!
If you use the right holster, where the weapon is completely tucked in, no one will know you are packing...ergo you have all the time necessary to retrieve it and defnd yourself, your partner or others! One should ALWAYS carry in the same location, so as to NOT HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHERE THE GAT IS! It may save your life. It did mine...NYPD RET.
@@johneliadis9689 I'm confused. How can you carry a gun with it all the way tucked into your pants? How would you draw it lol
@hugeslacker thumb in first, hook the grips and draw. Been doing g it for thirty plus years.
This has been one the best and most balanced presentations on this highly debated topic. Great job, Mr. Ayoob. Thank you very much. I carry strong arm OWB because of training and simply years of duty and CCW. Basically, habit.
I agree, I'm 52 & a ccw user, licensed G armed officer 👮🏼♂️. I don't feel A-IWB carry is best but can see why newer, younger thin guys, gals. I'm left handed & used OWB for around 25+ years.
@@DavidLLambertmobile I'm new to concealed carry and I'm slowly working up the courage and confidence to appendix carry. The gun pointed at my balls all day really makes me nervous lmao ; P
@@randalthor6872 I carry AIWB, my gun isn't "pointed at my balls", the barrel points just outside the balls, when I sit, the end of the barrel points between the scrotum and inner thigh. I've got some pretty serious low back issues and appendix carry is the most comfortable method I've found. I carry an IWI Masada Tactical (4.6" barrel, 17+1 capacity) and I find AIWB to be very comfortable. Just use a quality holster and never get in a hurry to holster the weapon, always check to make sure the holster is clear, watch the gun go in and make sure no loose straps or clothing went in with it. Once properly holstered, the gun is as safe as it can be, if it's pointed at your balls it makes no difference, it won't go off on its own out of the blue. The 'accidents' (negligent discharges) occur during holstering or drawing. Do those two things properly and AIWB is just as safe as any other carry method. Of course, no matter which way you decide to carry, you should still strive to always do those two things properly and safely. Try several carry methods, see which you find best for concealment, comfort and access. AIWB is my preferred method and most people I know who tried it stuck with it.
I think its the best way period anyways but I don't like walking around with an exposed OWB gun.
It makes people feel very uncomfortable unless you're a cop and I'm not trying to make other people afraid or feel unsafe.
@@cosmicabyss7358
My sidearm is never exposed. Dress for success. Simple.
"The genitalia and the femoral artery".....nuff said
Im a woman. With a large chest. I'm having a hard time deciding where to carry. I'm have a lil squish, beer belly. I think appendix carry is what is best for me. I'm still trying to sort it out. Thanks WC. I love the context. As always.
They deleted my comment to you. So research "bra carry." I love it!
@@C-hp4eh lol. They deleted. Your tig ol bitties comment. Tisk tisk. Thanks lol 😆
Go for it, no twig and berries to worry about blasting off.
@@PopeMcGropeno, just the leg
This guy is so good, he's got one eye on us and one eye on the door.
can't let anybody get a tactical suprise on you.
If it helps anyone hesitant to carry- When I started carrying appendix, I carried it empty (completely unloaded) but racked for about a month or so. If there were any kinks in my protocol, wardrobe, sitting posture, seat belt interference, restroom situation , etc. I'd find out w no consequence & gain some confidence & peace of mind. After a while of everyday scenarios & finding that the trigger had not dropped, I started carrying loaded but "dry racked". A month or so of that I had sufficient confidence to go ahead & carry Condition 1 with no real increase in anxiety or concern, though I still use the same care, attention, & strict diligence that I did on Day 1. Hope that's useful. Be safe.
I appendix carry every day. I did however opt for a p365 with the manual safety due to what I perceived was a trigger weight a little light for concealed carry. I've trained that manual safety into every draw and always have one in the pipe.
I added a manual safety to my P365 just for that reason.
I have each of the new Sig 365 Rose kits on order. I like that both the 380 ACP and the 9mm have manual safeties.
I have a P365-380 with manual safety, I want that with any striker fired gun. Never used the safety(except for decocker) on my hammer fired pistols.
I also aiwb with a manual safety. After a lot of reps, it's part of my draw
Do you have to remove your pistol when you sit and drive?
There's at least one secondary advantage to AIWB, in my opinion. Because it's intrinsically uncomfortable to wear AIWB while sitting, I've found that my seated posture is best when carrying appendix. I don't slouch forward; I keep my lower back and lower abs slightly engaged; I sit further forward in my seat and have better foot placement on the ground.. It makes a small but noticeable difference over the course of a day.
Thanks for the video. Always nice to see Mas give us some of that 50-year wisdom most of us can only hope to have someday.
Yeah, I could see how this could be beneficial for some people with a posterior pelvic tilt with head forward posture and cue them to bring themselves back up into alignment.
Depends on body type. I could not stand sitting with my gun at 4 o'clock, especially driving which was torture! I can sit AIWB just as comfortably as when I'm not carrying.
You’re using the wrong belt and holster if sitting is uncomfortable AIWB. I can sit all day with a full size 5in
Simple don’t pull the trigger while the muzzle is pointed at you
@@jhos9494 I've tried a few different holsters Appendix for me is just uncomfortable. For me 3 o'clock OWB or 4 o clock IWB.
Thanks so much. I'm 73 and have been carrying strong side OWB so long that I truthfully just don't want to change. I really look forward to all of your videos.
Yes. The shoulders back and watching the gun holstering is the way. You should have time for this whether at the range or after an incident is over. Excellent. Thank you.
see my post
Yep, speed reholstering isn't a thing
If you can't look at your holster while reholstering, that means the threat isn't gone, and you don't need to be holstering anyway.
It’s the same concept with hammer fired pistols with a decocker. You aren’t decocking in a life or death situation, nor are you holstering.
@@justinsane11 Absolutely
I believe the popularity with appendix carry has helped bring favor back to DA/SA hammer-fired guns. A decocked hammer fired gun is a great option if considering appendix carry, IMO.
That's exactly why I appendix carry a da/sa. I have a few options, all sigs for carry. My p224 is more of a summer gun because I can wear just a tshirt, and then in months I can wear a jacket, thicker long sleeve shirts, hoodies, etc I choose between a p239 and a p229 depending on where I'm going. I don't think I would ever carry a p365 or other striker fired guns in that location.
I watched a bunch of old Mas videos this weekend and was surprised with how wicked his sense of humor was back in the day. Great content as always!
One day I'm watching one of his old videos, back when political correctness wasn't a thing and he just shouts "in America if you suck a c**k once you're a c*k sucker forever!" I just bursted with laughter
Watch the video on the cameraman’s vest. It was so hilarious when he whips out a second sandwich from the vest
@@samoliver9132 that vest was hilarious!
@@samoliver9132 OMG that was the first video I saw about this guy. I was instantly hooked.
I also had a serious hankering for a sandwich....
Pros and cons is one of the basics that keeps me coming back to your presentations, Mas.
I am glad Mas mentioned muzzle blast as a hazard. Most don't mention it and even if, during an AIWB unintended discharge, the bullet misses vital bits, the MB is still going to wreak havoc and still many penetrate through to vital arteries. FTR, I use AIWB upon occasion and even put together my own AIWB rig when I could not find what I wanted ready-made.
Great video. I personally choose appendix for its advantages. It’s good to hear you allow it but with safety measures in your courses.
What extra safety measures do you need to take when carrying appendix as opposed to strong side?
@@Horrible_Deplorable Did you not watch the presentation? It was well explained.
KnifeMaker
@@michaell397 you'll have to explain how knifemaker is a safety precaution.
Is it a new rule to the universal firearm safety rules?
see my post
Sweet video
I carry about 11 o’clock with a right hand draw. It’s easier for me to draw with either hand if necessary. I also must have a manual safety when carrying up front. It’s a mental thing for me to know 100% the pistol won’t go off when pointed at such a vulnerable area.
If you carry a pistol with a grip safety and carry appendix you can put thumb on top basically on rear site and slide pistol in nicely without depressing the grip safety. Its comforting having a little backup (safety) in a dicey situation (rehostering).
I've carried at 3 O'clock to 4:30 for over 50 years. I appreciate the advantages of appendix carry, but it's just not for me. Also, I always trained to twist away from an attacker, so that my gun and shooting arm are out of his reach. The late 60s is not a good time of life to start retraining things that have become instinctive.
At age 62, arthritic, and being a tad chunky with a “slight” beer belly, IWB carry is strictly a no-go. Plus, no matter what size, age or fitness level a person is, ya gotta buy your britches 2” larger than the size you normally wear.
Oh, to be 26 and have a
30” waist again.
Being 6'1 and slim frame it's hard to cc other than appendix for me at least.
I find that I'm only comfortable with Aiwb when using a revolver. Both from a safety and a comfort position. A longer gun or one less curved just doesn't work for me. Interesting to think that back when a lot of guys justshoved a gun into the waistband. Pants were worn four or five Inches higher. Doing that I could probably caryy a full size 1911 comfortably.
Personally, I only feel comfortable running an AIWB when it’s an SA/DA hammer-fired gun. I bought a 365 shortly after they fixed the pin drag issue and loved the gun, but I ended up selling it because I ALWAYS stressed while holstering it AIWB.
I personally prefer 3-4 o’clock. I am quicker drawing and going on target that way, since it is how I have practiced drills for years.
That’s said appendix is better for concealment as it doesn’t print as much, but my most sacred rule is not to point the gun at myself or anyone else, and appendix breaks that rule for me.
I carry a Glock 19, a Glock 17 and a S&W M&P appendix. The M&P has the external thumb safety, and the Glocks both have Striker Control Devices so I have positive tactile confirmation to help prevent AD's while holstering. So far so good...
It's how I carry!
I primarily carry strong side hip. 330-4 o'clock position, but find appendix to be nice, because it's quick. Especially if I'm taking the holster and sidearm out a lot, i.e. going to the bank/post office. I also like the appendix carry much better with a tuckable holster with dress clothes. It is very important to be informed, aware, and trained with any style you choose. Very good video.
To me, carrying in the 3:30/4:00 position actually feels more comfortable than not having a firearm there, it makes my lower back feel supported.
You are right! Just about everyone else is so pro- or anti-appendix carry that almost no one points out the benifits and risks. I was hoping to see some discussion of single action as a manual safety in my option would make this mode of carry much safer.
Meh. I AIWB carry a Glock 19. Between the firing pin safety, trigger safety, and drop safety, I feel pretty comfortable with it pointed at my junk. The striker isn’t pre cocked, either. No way it’s going off on its own. I trust that way more than a manual safety that can be switched off or is prone to mechanical failure.
@@seann2769 Did you watch the video? The risk is holstering with something on your belt or the tail of your shirt or something else getting jammed in the trigger guard. No one is talking about guns going off spontaneously.
@@michaelstora70 I did. My apologies for my poor reading comprehension lol
Oh, I looked hard at the advantages but they are NOT enough for me to deliberately point a loaded pistol at my testicles and femoral arteries...
I drive for a living so I spend a lot of time in my car. I found that in order to draw from a behind the hip holster while sitting in a bucket car seat I had to lean forward to create enough space to get a grip on the pistol. If an assailant is at your driver's side car window when you draw, by leaning forward you're exposing the back of the head and neck to them. You also can't effectively use your weak hand to fend off an attacker while drawing. An appendix holster offers a far easier draw while seated and doesn't compromise your ability to defend with the weak hand while drawing.
I think that the quick draw aspect of it has been given way too much emphasis nowadays...if you ask me I'd say that the "quickest draw" is being aware of your surroundings (I.e. not using your phone for that "one" second).
The caution about what the muzzle blast would do from an unintentional discharge when re-holstering appendix carry . . .
Thanks Mas, I've chosen to not go with appendix carry. It's not comfortable to me, and the consequences of a mishap are far more dire.
The consequences are the same it takes time to get used to
@@boomee78 the consequences are not the same lol. I'd rather lose an ass cheek than lose my junk or hit a femoral
@@boomee78 catching a negligent discharge in the ass or outer thigh is a whole different story than catching one in the femoral artery, or bob and the twins, or both. The consequences are definitely not the same.
@johny9516 First of all, not everyone puts the holster way back like Mas does. i haven't seen one person. I have seen first hand what can happen, unfortunately, twice on the job. Unfortunately, you can hit your femoral artery not everyone carries like mass does so that i disagree with you.
I'm a huge proponent of this carry for speed and comfort. I prefer to use a hammer fired pistol and/or a 1911 or 2011 so that I know when I'm reholstering (slowly if at all) that I know where the action is. With my H&K P30sk I keep my thumb on the closed hammer and with my Stacatto C2 I make sure the slide safety is engaged and I use a weak grip so that the grip safety is NOT engaged when I put it back in the holster.
Thanks Mas for your years of knowledge. I can't wait to take one of your classes in person.
As a small guy I just pocket carry the old LCP Max. I can bring it anywhere without a metal detector with two spare 12 round mags (37 justice packets in total) even in small summer shorts. Sometimes in the winter when I'm wearing heavy clothing I'll carry appendix or 4 o'clock with a compact, but not often as it is far less comfortable. I know some people wouldn't be okay with the level of stopping power but the reliability and accuracy is actually pretty astounding, and shot placement even with a 45 is the most important thing. The amount of reps I've done to be smooth out of the pocket is high and I practice with snap caps every day to keep myself in good shape. If you value true invisibility and the ability to constantly have your EDC I highly recommend putting in the training effort and getting over the ego hit of carrying such a small gun.
Well explained. After a career in military LE, the only place I feel comfortable is strong side hip. But that's me.
Same here. I want my gun on my hip.
Agreed. Too many horror stories, and I can draw faster form 3 o’clock anyways. Every single person that I know that shot their genitals off, or died (as result of blood loss) from an accidental/negligent discharge in the holster, were appendix carrying.
I carry AIWB a full-size 9mm with a light attached, no undergarments, have ran 1/2 a mile with it with no discomfort, and can wear just a tanktop without it being noticeable
Excellent topic! For myself; however, and because of surgeries, it is highly uncomfortable to have anything pressing against my lower abdomen. In some cases, it is even uncomfortable to have anything on my belt that would drag it down. I started wearing Perry suspenders to prevent that from happening. My normal carry these days is either in a shoulder rig or offside cross-draw carry, which while not ideal, is better than not carrying at all. Aside from that, the cant of the cross-draw holster is very comfortable when sitting and positions the muzzle of my firearm on the hipbone and not at my femoral artery. I suffer from poor blood circulation, and restricting a major right to left femoral bypass does not appeal to me, which appendix carry could do.
Definietely you dont want to 'interfere' with 'anything near' the 'connection ends' of a fem-fem bypass.
Appendix carry isn't comfortable at all unless you are 21 - 30 years old and 6' 1' 150 pounds soaking wet. Most of the guys who do it are very scrawny thin.
How about pocket carry?
@@oklahomahank2378 I have no issue with pocket carry, given the right pistol/holster/pocket combination. In fact, as I am typing this a Hellcat is residing in a DeSantis Nemesis holster in my right pants pocket. I have also carried in a cargo pants pocket and vest pocket.
@@RangeRoninChronicles At the moment I have my LCP max in a Vedder pocket locker in my pocket. I like the Vedder. I have some other pocket holsters but I like the security of a form fitting Kydex.
Good video…I’ve been carrying my K frame size snub .357 for over 20 yrs here in Texas. Works great for me!
There’s only two types of weapons I would carry this way, a revolver or DA/SA pistol. The rest would either OWB or IWB strong side.
Very smart and realistic. Better said than Massad. I'm in Texas too.
I can listen to this man's wisdom all day long.
Good advice as usual. Appendix carry all but eliminates a bad guy grabbing one’s firearm also.
Makes total sense. Just starting out and trying each.
Staccato,, CS 9 mm concealed carry perfect!
Mas is one of my favorite presenters ever.
Thank you for a professional discussion of what is way too often a nearly-religious matter.
I've always held the belief we should look at our gun as we put it back in the holster regardless of where it's sitting. It's too easy for clothing to slip in at the same time. And if you're putting it back in the holster that means you've determined the threat to be over so taking that one second to look is a none issue.
I see zero need to be tacticool while holstering, just my opinion for a added layer of safety.
This is going to be GOOD I have to come back and watch this and totally scrutinize. I was an NRA LEO Instructor for 20+ years and NEVER promoted shooting my package. Until I retired and won a SASS Championship. Speed, Movement, Control and Safety. I have seen a shooter draw a lead line down the outside of his trousers. No finger poke in til proper! I Carried a very long time until I trusted myself enough and felt proficient enough. Rule of thumb for me is Carry THE PLACE WHERE YOU TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN. After all that's where you will be looking for her! Do not "police" brass while shooting!
What is "police brass"?
@bmaxse emptying your spent shells,collect in hand and place safely in your pocket where you wouldn't trip on them. They would fight them in wounded Officers pockets. One ALWAYS REVERTS TO TRAINING UNDER PRESSURE
I think it’s your gaze that makes your words so powerful, when I look into your eyes I can’t help but treat your words with the utmost respect and diligence. Your a very wise man and it shows.
For me, the main problem with appendix carry is sweeping the femoral artery. Especially when sitting. That can be fatal, even if everything else about it is great.
Yea, I personally don’t feel comfortable for this reason.
He actually brought up some bad points.
@@ruffianotv Agree, and he did mention the problem of sweeping the femoral artery.
@Loanword Eggcorn he's off on alot of his stuff. He always mentions the bad and never how to get out of it. It's all basic stuff he mentions. On my channel I started I will be going over realism.
@@ruffianotv The format here is brief. I think we agree that one can't cover everything in a few minutes. Mas got the basics right. He definitely mentioned major benefits of Appendix carry too.
After 2 back surgeries several years ago, carrying strong side became uncomfortable as it aggravated the hip pain I was operated on to remedy. After repeated suggestions (!) from my wife to find another way to carry I decided to try appendix.I read about it and watched several videos. I found it surprisingly comfortable, even with a full sized pistol. Sitting, driving, walking around, has been no problem. I usually carry a Springfield Hellcat Pro with a Holosun RDS. It wors for me.
"showing the pros and cons"- exactly why I fell in love with your channel. With all of your content, you seem to not let emotions dictate the info you provide, and look at all sides of every story. Great info- thank you!
Question for the team: Do you or anyone you know carry full-size pistols in AIWB carry? I have only seen compacts or subcompacts. Plus, I don't think I've ever seen a revolver (though I imagine a Ruger LCR or the like would be practical)?
I just *love* Massad Ayoob's advice and the way he expresses himself! I also think very highly of this gentleman! Thank you again for having him, Wilson Combat. I will be frank; Ayoob, and not your fine pistols, is the #1 reason I have Subscribed to your channel. Your firearms are worth thousands of dollars, but Ayoob? He is genuinely priceless. =)
I carry a p10c aiwb in am ANR design holster with 17 round magazine. No issue but the p365 is more comfortable sitting down. I’m about 40/60 p10/p365. It’s what you get used to
I carry a 1911 in aiwb, 2 spare mags on the left hip. I'm a stout person so it doesn't print with a good polo shirt and like Mas says, the belt has to be a little higher. It took some getting used to but I wouldn't change it now.
I have considered getting a compact little 9mm for when I'm working hard, but haven't felt the need to do so.
Look up nightwood guns. He is carrying a 2011.
I've carried a full size 10mm (4.6in) , but the extra barrel length will pinch your sack
I carry an IWI Masada Tactical, 4.6" barrel with 17 + 1 capacity, AIWB. I have some pretty serious low back issues with some permanent nerve damage in my low back causing constant leg pain. If I carry IWB anywhere on the hip, it causes me a lot of pain that I don't get with appendix carry. I think it's because the hip is hard, a belt to keep the holstered gun stable and against the body puts too much side pressure on the lower back while the abdomen is soft and gives so the belt doesn't need to be as tight and doesn't create uneven side pressure on the low back. There seems to be better weight distribution too. Whatever the reason, my personal experience with AIWB carry has been great. It's comfortable, the gun is easy to access and easy to conceal. I personally love AIWB carry. It may not be for everyone but it's definitely my preferred way to carry.
Particularly useful at newer movie theaters that have large, plush seats that recline. It can be difficult to get to a belt gun in those big seats. I always have a 642 in an appendix holster when I go to the theater, and usually my G19 on the belt. This way, if I have to draw from a seated position, I have an easy-access option.
Great advice. You HAVE to treat AIWB with the respect it deserves. Build that safety protocol (especially the draw and reholster motions) into muscle memory as part of your dry fire practice. That should be the absolute BARE MINUMUM you do if you're carrying AIWB!
Appendix carry makes me nervous. I have a P365 with manual safety and carry IWB around 5 o'clock. Works best for me.
i carry appendix, and when holstering gun i almost always take holster out, put gun in and after that i put holstered gun back into appendix carry, only when gun is empty after safety check and magazinless, i put gun directly into appendix carried holster
I've appendix carried after many unsuccessful attempts to find the place that felt good to me and accommodated my edc. I've been doing it for years and I never change up the gun. I like consistency.
Probably the number one reason I carry appendix is gun security.
You are not going to get my gun without me knowing .
Great channel with wonderful advice!
I carried a 5-shot .44 cal revolver in an open top leather holster at the 4:00 position for many years until I developed a fatty tumor in that location. Now I carry in the 10:00 or 11:00 position. Much easier to access the weapon, even when seated. I'm 81 years old now and am trying to adjust to carrying the P365 XL. Much easier to carry but so far that is all I can say about it. I had full confidence in my .44 revolver. Later on I bought a S&W 646 and loved it. Most natural pointing handgun I've ever owned, and I carried it a good bit. But it is a little bulky for summer use. Now, I'm trying to make the XL work.
Massad Ayoob, old school wisdom with modern tech savvy. In the gravest extreme is a great book I that have bought many times over as gifts, my trust is that solid. Thanks for the deep dive sir!
Things have a reason in a sensible World. Whilst its a bit of a stretch to assert the World has any sense - at all! At least there is a clear reason why Mr Ayoob has been a voice worth lending an ear for... well for respectful diplomacy to 'age' ( for both of us! ) shall we simply call it decades. I carried for my Govt and listened politely to all the ( brief ) training. But stayed whole, sane and effective because I paid assiduous attention to this man. Perhaps dating things to say my issue 158 gr LRN 38's got swapped for Federal 125grn SJHP 357! I m sure its been said, I m sure I ve said it. But at risk of worthwhile repetition - thank you Mr A.
Flashbang Holster bra carry. Not particularly fast, but the perp doesn't also probably assume you are carrying, being a female. Fairly comfy for a smaller gun. Even works for small gals.
Thanks for all your info!
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A holster-bra? How creative!
I once heard of a holster demonstration involving a lovely long-haired lady wearing only a swimsuit while on the stage. When she drew, the pistol appeared from underneath all that hair. For most guys and some gals? That was probably the last place they were looking - but wow! Talk about catching the crowd by surprise! =)
@@PurrsPlace It's actually a holster that fits inside the bra and snaps around the very middle of the bra, so you can wear your own bra. It's very secure and totally trigger protected and easy to draw. It's very comfortable. I think it's totally practical.
@@C-hp4eh Wow! How cool is that? Comfortable and practical. What's not to like? =)
Thank you for sharing that with me, C!
To my way of thinking one of the most useful methods is driver's style cross draw. Access is easy from any position but especially seated and the more horizontal orientation minimizes concerns of too short of cover garment exposing the goods. As a bonus the muzzle is pointed in a direction that reduces the chances of Glocking one's self.
Alas, holster makers seem to disagree.
Being a little bit of a bigger guy I have found apendix is amazing get a kore belt go up one size and order a big guy holster from bordertown holsters. When I go sit I adjust my belt over belly when I'm driving or sitting and obviously put the seat belt behind the firearm.
It’s scary at first but well worth it once you gain experience.
Good information Sir . I converted to that type of carry a good while back and can't remember when . It is very comfortable to me . I carry a Glock 26 and a spare magazine.
Which holster do you prefer/use for your Glock 26?
@@kevinrhodes3902. He or she didn’t answer. I have both tier one concealed and T Rex holsters for my 26. Both are good, I prefer the Tier One. Be prepared to spend some time adjusting the clips up or down and trying a wedge and a claw in different places and sizes.
I agree with many of the potential issues with the AIWB, but I would say that there are some training techniques to overcome the issues of single handed draw. I prefer to keep my dominant hand wide open an sliding it under my cover garment, as this allows me to use the back of my hand to lift the garment. I have trained this way for some time, and don't have the garment snag on anything. I also don't mind AIWB without an under garment, but this was just a matter of getting used to the feeling.
Great video.
Always an outstanding video and presentation that I look forward to watching.
Thank you.
I carry on the hip. Just more comfortable for me and that’s how I train. 😊
Massad is the absolute best. Love listening to him speak about anything & his wisdom.
There are quite a few resources out there with various methods for one-handed appendix draw. I’ve found (giving all a fair and lengthy trial) that fir me personally, I do much better with a circular or elliptical type thumb motion to clear my cover garment. Gotta put in the practice though, but it can be done pretty effectively, though obviously not as quick as two handed. And there are also various two handed methods as well that are worth the practice to get proficient at. Last, I absolutely couldn’t agree more with your hips forward, firearm grip against the belly, muzzle angled outward, reholstering technique! In some situations, I’ll even remove the holster to reholster the firearm (being careful to not muzzle my support hand either). Definitely the scariest part of appendix carry! 😳
Another absolute ace video from Massad. Thanks for making this!
Thank you for addressing this issue. As a man, I’ve wondered about this myself. I don’t think I could ever feel comfortable carrying in the front.
I don't know about Appendix Carry but I love Paul Harrell's comment on Small of the Back Carry, he said nothing good could come from something called the SOB position.
great video. i do carry IWB appendix carry. i practice my draw, while grabbing the gun, my trigger finger is along the slide, my thumb is pushing the safety forward at the same time. my finger never touches the trigger unless i plan on discharging a round or 3. when i do leave the house, if my gun isn't there i feel naked. never leave home without it!
My simple way for appendix carry first if you're right-handed move your belt buckle one pants look to the left opening up the front I carry a Smith & Wesson m&p shield 9 a concealed carry soft clip holder that offsets
This soft clip holder
I tried OTWB hip carry for about two weeks . I found it very uncomfortable just to carry it , sitting down or driving was very uncomfortable . I switched to appendix carry and never looked back , way more comfortable and I can even do my daily activities without any issues .
sig p365 with a Remora Holster, very comfortable and safe. I also sometimes carry a glock 43x with a Remora holster, very comfortable and safe.
Thank you, Mas! Outstanding appendix carry pro/con presentation!
Good information. Just watched a Yankee Marshal vid I which he cited statistics showing that (suicides excluded) more people die from their own gun, than from being shot by someone else. He concluded that most self conflicted gun deaths happen from appendix carry and wanted to let people know of the significant risk involved with this carry option.
it is a position that the carrier has to be comfortable with like all the others and it has its own place/purpose, so try it and if it works it works... 🤠
Appendix carry never worked for me. I tried three very good holsters and two different guns. I was like a cat on a hot tin roof. After over a year of this experiment, I went back to the 2:30 position in an outside the pants holster I had carried for most of my life. For me, just speaking for only myself, that has always felt right. Also, going back to an external holster allowed me to carry a larger gun. In training, practicing draws and my friend timing me, I got the best times. I am short and stocky, barrel chested. Maybe if I were thin and tall that might be a good way to carry. I do not know.
coming from a 6'+ lanky guy, its pretty much impossible for me to do anything else other than appendix, especially if i only have a flannel or minimal clothing in warm weather
Same here I can make 2 o clock work concealed carry also and just enough to even cover most or all of gun, was able to chat with Howard Darby once and he had a influence on my carry concept, fitting in some aspects of quick draw in the way I carry, cheating is a good thing if your cheating to set up carry method for speed saving your life
Hit the gym and stop drinking goyslop and beer. Maybe you could appendix carry if you werent a fatass
I agree. Many years ago when I first started carrying I tried appendix carry and found it terribly uncomfortable. Sitting and bending are not comfortable with a gun poking into you.
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It's not comfortable at all nor is it safe. It's a new "trend".....we all used Galco SS2 or Miami Classic shoulder holsters or 3:00 - 4:00 pancake holsters. IWB is ok if it's a smaller or very thin handgun ( GLOCK G-42/G-43/G-43X...SIG P-365, Taurus G3C etc etc), otherwise that is also very uncomfortable too.
I carry AIWB because it is the only option for me to completely conceal wearing a T-shirt with little to no printing. I carry a Glock 19 gen 5 with a RMR on top, not the biggest firearm, but it definitely prints in most positions unless I wear a hoodie.
I appendix carry most days of the week. I crawl under houses, up in attics, and drive hours at a time. Appendix is the only position that allows me to work and maintain concealment and retention and to have access while driving. I strong side hip carry when I’m wearing a suit or working outside. With appendix carry I can get to my gun while in tight confines like a residential hallway or closet. Clinch pick on the left of centerline and my 365XL on the right of centerline. And as far as re holstering goes, I can’t fathom a reason I would be in a hurry to holster the firearm after defensive use.
Appendix carry is the best for the element of surprise against evil, that said i also value open carry because it is a deterrent.
Great overview! Appreciate your expertise!
When ready to reholster the firearm, remove to holster from aiwb, place firearm inside, and replace holster aiwb.
If I were to conceal carry apendix, my protocol for holstering would be to pull the holster free and holster the weapon pointed away from myself and others then replace the holstered weapon. This is easily done with a single clip holster.
Im a business guy, have to wear tucked in collared oxford style shirts. I carry AIWB Tukked. I would argue that unless you wa t to wear your suit or sport coat all day long then Appendix is the best solution for this. Id love to see a video on this topic
Experienced muzzle blast with my hand once from a .44 mag. Can't imagine if it had been my twig and berries instead. Excellent point.
Massad Ayoob is a national treasure. 🇺🇸
I carry a modified Appendix/crossdraw, left side about 10-11 oclock, right hand dominant. I never see it discussed and would like comments if there is a reason it is not done. I spend a lot of time seated in cars, and it works really well there. Aiwb not comfortable for me.
Also, threats to retention would be 0:29 visible from front, no one sneaks up behind. Any ND would be outside of femoral artery area.
Butt is a bit low, takes a distinct motion to grasp. Potential flagging of left side area. Otherwise, I love it, very comfortable, custom kydex/leather holster. I’d like comments. Kcj. Minnesota
Thanks for the insights and pro/con of wearing appendix carry holster. The safe holstering of a gun is often left out when others discuss the topic. I would add that the belt with your chosen appendix holster should be considered. Not all belts are the same with all holsters.
Excellent video. The accidental discharge is a hard learned lesson even for the professional. A good friend who was a firearms instructor blew a hole in his leg with a 44mag . He luckily missed the artery and recovered fairly quickly. It happened because of loss of focus and distraction while re-holster . I like the lean back technique .👍.
The Glock striker control device (now from Langdon) is a nice addition for appendix carry.
Mas your dry humor is what makes these videos…to us the rest is obvious 100% best info from one of the greats…some may not have much up front that could get n front of the gun either
With my back problems appendix is the best.
You're so well spoken
After carrying 3-4 O’clock for over a decade, I switched to AIWB at 12, now I’m at the 1:30-2 position. Its way more easier to holster imo because you can completely see everything in front of you. Tilt back a little, push in my “tactical gear” a little, and guide it in place. If I’m carry my hammer fired gun then I get another layer of security by keeping my thumb over the hammer.