Apple makes products that come with no manual, that everyone knows how to use. Linux distributions come with thousands of manuals and no one knows how to use it anyway! Forget peripherals. The real reason is RTFM culture. The reality is that consumers do not want to RTFM. I use Linux. I have since 2003, and it's now my main OS. How many people in WIndows have to parse an xrandr command to startup to make their secondary monitor work? Seriously. Linux is not intuitive to the end user.. fix it.
Linux is not successful because of the endless re-inventing the wheel. Endless forks. Did I mention the sheer number of distros. If all these uni-ideologist developers stopped and focused on a few products, mankind would have colonized Mars by now.
Same here. I just thought it was worth mentioning that many pioneers in the open source community frown upon the only OS under the Linux umbrella that I could trust my uncle to use without throwing the computer at a wall. It makes me think about Linux culture - the idea that it is looked down upon for the very fact that it is easy to use. That's kind of the point! :-)
I think he's right in some ways... however for him to call LInux "incumbent" is not right. The reason Linux is not successful on the desktop is fragmentation and lack of usability. I've been using it for 10+ years and I can't imagine asking someone like my mother, or neighbor to go ahead and run "yum" and install some lib packages so they can read their USB storage device. That's the problem. Lack of usability... Ubuntu is doing some work on this but it has so much more to go...
One thing, that the average user never ever wants to do is to use the terminal. Yes, for me installing my gcc with apt-get is relativelly convenient, but how does it look for the average user?
I totally agree with you. When I started learning Linux 3 years ago I also experienced being ridiculed in the forums. But these days I'm glad that the forums are getting friendlier. In youtube there are lots of tutorials and friendly people. I'm sure those people who are friendly to newbies are former windows users. Hahaha.
You know, I remember a time when installing a fresh windows XP for someone was a bitch, because you would need to find the correct network driver which is going to make it easier to install everything else. Ahh, I appreciate all the support that comes from a modern OS install.
Thanks to the community and praise be to God that the common Linux distribution is plenty more friendly for average end users than it was 10 years ago.
I'm with you on the green thing. That's what hibernate and suspend are for, neither of them require a reboot. I have also have a strip under my desk that auto-powers-off everything in the office (monitors, sound system etc.) when it senses the power drain drop from my suspended computer. It likewise turns everything back on when I power it back up.
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Apple makes products that come with no manual, that everyone knows how to use.
Linux distributions come with thousands of manuals and no one knows how to use it anyway!
Forget peripherals. The real reason is RTFM culture. The reality is that consumers do not want to RTFM. I use Linux. I have since 2003, and it's now my main OS. How many people in WIndows have to parse an xrandr command to startup to make their secondary monitor work? Seriously. Linux is not intuitive to the end user.. fix it.
Anyone else got this randomly recommended in 2024?
The main problem is. The average user doesn't know what writing an ISO to a USB is.
Linux is not successful because of the endless re-inventing the wheel. Endless forks. Did I mention the sheer number of distros. If all these uni-ideologist developers stopped and focused on a few products, mankind would have colonized Mars by now.
Same here. I just thought it was worth mentioning that many pioneers in the open source community frown upon the only OS under the Linux umbrella that I could trust my uncle to use without throwing the computer at a wall. It makes me think about Linux culture - the idea that it is looked down upon for the very fact that it is easy to use. That's kind of the point! :-)
Linux is so successful at desktop. i can't find a desktop better than it!
Linux desktop year is here!
I think he's right in some ways... however for him to call LInux "incumbent" is not right. The reason Linux is not successful on the desktop is fragmentation and lack of usability. I've been using it for 10+ years and I can't imagine asking someone like my mother, or neighbor to go ahead and run "yum" and install some lib packages so they can read their USB storage device. That's the problem. Lack of usability... Ubuntu is doing some work on this but it has so much more to go...
a lot has changed in 11 years
No disagreement with Linus. But I would also add this.
I saw the look in his eye when he thought that tablet was apple...
One thing, that the average user never ever wants to do is to use the terminal. Yes, for me installing my gcc with apt-get is relativelly convenient, but how does it look for the average user?
4:30 - that statement just blew my mind! I forgot how expensive computers used to be compaired to today.
I totally agree with you. When I started learning Linux 3 years ago I also experienced being ridiculed in the forums. But these days I'm glad that the forums are getting friendlier. In youtube there are lots of tutorials and friendly people. I'm sure those people who are friendly to newbies are former windows users. Hahaha.
You know, I remember a time when installing a fresh windows XP for someone was a bitch, because you would need to find the correct network driver which is going to make it easier to install everything else. Ahh, I appreciate all the support that comes from a modern OS install.
Thanks to the community and praise be to God that the common Linux distribution is plenty more friendly for average end users than it was 10 years ago.
Time has changed
I'm with you on the green thing. That's what hibernate and suspend are for, neither of them require a reboot. I have also have a strip under my desk that auto-powers-off everything in the office (monitors, sound system etc.) when it senses the power drain drop from my suspended computer. It likewise turns everything back on when I power it back up.
Aye.. thanks for the heads up. Haven't looked closely at that for awhile. Checking it out now.