An athlete’s job is to try to WIN, not ENTERTAIN the fans…
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"I want a big money fight" translates to "Give me an opponent who can draw the PPV numbers that I can't".
100% Savage Fact
Mark Larivee if i could give your comment 10 likes, i would
Correct.
@Rukh At the moment yes he is the only money fight.
I remember when Cody said he was the money fight lol
Man Im SO glad someone like Chael is coming out to say this. Its MMA not professional wrestling
Caleb he is wrong tho. The entertaining fighters make more than the ones that win all the time. Just look at the Diaz brothers or any of the big names from the past.
@@tacotilko6862 Exactly. If you aren't an entertaining fighter, nobody is gonna be interested in your fights. Looking at DJ or Woodley. Many great fighters in the past had something entertaining about them.
Allen Mkandawire even fighters like forest griffin or chuck Liddell are still bigger names than woodly or dj. Because they put everything on the line when they fought. Domination means nothing unless you do it in a interesting way.
Tacotilko Nate Diaz was only getting paid about $20,000 to fight before he fought Conor. He was called a “entertaining and fan favourite” at the time.
Most “big names” were champions at one stage, champions get paid more.
Nic Hume lol no Diaz did not get paid that little. He got paid fucking 110k for his fight before Conor and that was before the Reebok deal so he made hundreds of thousands more than that.
Chael clearly wants the money fight with Justin Gaethje
Someone call Eddie Bravo to look into it for us😂
Definitely
lol yeah forget that bellator/fedor payday he wants that Gaethje fotn payout!
You goal is always to win. Entertaining means absolutely nothing without winning, Conor would still be a plumber if he didn't win.
Little Uzi didn’t choose the best example did you
Some Black Dude He chose the best example. Conor’s mouth would do him no good if he didn’t have the skills to back it up. All the non delusional fans knew he didn’t stand a chance with Floyd. Now after his comeback if he loses a couple more high profile fights he will be done and his trash talk won’t save him from headlining PPVs.
Darkplace GSP Conor got the opportunity to fight floyd and very few people thought he’d win, they thought it would be entertaining. Conor didn’t think he’d win either
He got the biggest pay out of his life, more money than most actual pro boxers make, just by showing up.
Conor’s shit talking makes him entertaining win or lose
sbd braindead
No, TONS of people thought he could win. I couldn't stand the message boards and youtube comment sections leading up to MayMac.
If Conor didn't have the skills to back it up in MMA, he'd still be somewhat successful because he'd be another Chael
Calling out Justin lol
The Notorious lol Justin is one of the biggest names in his division now from his mentality. People like to watch him because he will try his best to knock the other guy out.
Tacotilko - yeah he only big until he keeps losing. Then he brain dead without fans ...
LL Ali it honestly doesn’t matter how many times he loses. He will always be a big name because of how he fights.
He’s calling out Eddie.
LL Ali I’ll always watch him and be a fan even when he loses. Dude is a savage.
If the bottom guys were making more than $15k-20k a fight I think this whole "money fight" BS would be gone permanently
All the ufc has to do is make Reebok allow fighters to put sponsors on their clothes and they would be good
djbobbydjable things was so good in the past but ufc fucked their fighters with this Reebok deal
I don't see why they shouldn't allow it. There are alot of sponsors out there that don't compete with Reebok in any way shape or form. Makes no sense to close those avenues of revenue for fighters.
Say what you will about Brendan Schaub but he's absolutely on the money on this topic. The UFC wants its cake and eat it too. Pay the damn fighters more or allow sponsorships
Tyron woodley saw this vid and cried that someone finally gets it 🤔🤔🤔
Now hopefully someone shows Justin Gaethje this video.
🙄☝️😅😅👌
Tyquill probably said this video was racist as well
Woodley had a boring fight so hes now a boring fighter 🤣🤣
AkamapD He’s a pretty exciting fighter, he’s a very boring person...
The best ones do both, win and entertain.
Conor McGregor!!!
I feel like if Chael didn't have this podcast he would still talk to himself aloud about all this things and comes out fully convinced and enlightened. Not hating just a mere thought.
Haha, 100%
I do that all the time...
Ahem...justin gaethe
Mike perry
HE couldnt be anymore wrong fans want entertaining fighters look at nick diaz for example terrible record but super popular
@@IronlVIan That's not the problem. The point is that a fighter should NOT come out and _say_ that he/she is only in to entertain.
@@Ticketman99 exactly. The entertainment part is a byproduct of the fighters style and fans preferences i.e. strikers vs grapplers. It should never be 'the' reason a fighter isnin the ring.
@@vlada That's what I got out of the video and it made many think of Justin. Eddie Alvarez is guilty of this too.
I admit I'm a spectator, not a fighter. Having said that, I don't like how modern fighters get to pick and choose their fights and keep everyone waiting, while they wait on the perfect opportunity fight. Fight 3 times a year to be considered relevant, champion or contender. You sit too long you get stripped. No more excuses. Like Chael has said before, "anybody, anywhere, anytime." Once again, no fighter here. Just a bored, frustrated spectator.
And the UFC is now worth 7 billion. Are you not able to pay your fighters a handsome sum for their pain and sacrifice. They deserve it! I just don't get it.
Greedy dellusional sociopaths is the answer.
^^^ Right on the money
I've never agreed more on anything than this right here. "100 to Nothing if you can." - Chael Sonnen 2018. #NOMercy
Mike Jackson took tremendous mercy on CM Punk.
LMAO and here I thought Justin Gaethje related comments would be the only thing that'll be hilarious😂
Real talk tho: how Chael addresses this topic in the video is exactly why Mike Jackson isn't in the UFC.
That CM Punk fight was hard to watch. Mike Jackson could have finished him at any moment, but I think he just didn't want to embarrass him and I honestly thought that was a message sent to him by Dana so I was surprised when Dana bashed him so much after the fight. CM Punk getting smashed isn't good business
That’s why Chael is entertainmening fighter cuz he goes 100% and never stops
When your fight style is entertaining to watch when you win,,, you become a star
Chael gotta tell you that You have Talked the Talk and Walked the Walk and I enjoy both your Ring Activity/Performance and your Commentary... it is Entertaining and YOU pull Full Freight 100% ... Thank you for your insights
Damn Chael I subscribed to the channel years ago when the podcast first came out. Awesome to see its having such success with the viewers.
An athlete is an entertainer, just like an actor or a comedian. They display special skills and talents rather than providing actual goods or services. The audience pays their bills. They should of course try to win, because that's called competition. If you refuse to find a balance, you are either delusional or narcissistic.
Was Woodley wrongly criticised for nullifying his oppentents that stylistically wrong for him for example Thompson and Maia, he stuffed 20 plus takedown attempts from Maia bit was criticised still for winning but not being entertaining (ignore the first Woodley vs Thompson fight)
Ali Wildash probably but cheal clearly doesn’t understand the audience of mma any more.
Also keep in mind Woodley vs Thompson 2 was supposed to have Khabib vs Tony but that fell apart. Than the boring fight didnt help.
@@tacotilko6862 Chael's point is this: don't _say_ you're in it to entertain, *be* an entertainer by your actions as a fighter and/or as a personality.
Graeme Williams no it’s not. He literally said your job is to win by points if you have to.
@@tacotilko6862 As a fighter, winning fights IS your _job._
Now, doing entertaining things ON TOP of winning...that, theoretically, is a hallmark of a good to great *career.*
Chael is gonna show time kick fedor
Neil Armstrong thank you for landing on the moon.
@@castanedamusic1578 ❤❤
THANK YOU CHAEL. I love a gladiatorial style fighter who is killed or be killed, but the competition of "who wins in combat?" is a question that is ALWAYS in the forefront of the viewers mind. As it should be. Winners win.
OMG yes! I've been feeling this way the entire time Gaejthe has been in the UFC. I'd rather see him win, rather than take an ass whoopin.
Nobody in the FIGHT WORLD speaks more truth then Chael Sonnen SERIOUSLY....He's The Man
Damm chael sonnen conversation topic choices have been on point latley😎👊
Fucking love the take on running up the score. If you want people to see you, be the best. Don't hold back. The people who give you shit for running up the score and claim you are breaking sportsmanship, or being arrogant, or showboating, they are going to find a reason to give you shit whether you do that or not. If it's not the score, it'll be your speech afterwards. If it's not that, it'll be how you dress. If it's not that, it'll be that last tweet you put up.
You entertain the fans second to winning, it's just priorities.
Soylent green is people !
"Everbody likes the winner, nobody likes the loser"
- BJ Penn
Don chael back at it again with his endless wisdom
Thank you Chael. This speaks to athletes like Woodley and Mayweather who easily breaks down their opponents
That's right!
Entertainment gives you money, winning gives you legacy. Doing both makes your sporting career complete . eg Conor.
eg. Chael
Conor isn't entertaining.
Gangster Chael talking nothing but facts💯
Real Talk
Everything in this video is sooo true
You could see why fans prefer a exciting fighting style over a less one, and they are not racists like some fighters claim.
Pr. Chael should teach class to the dumbs-dumbs at the Performance Institute !!!
look who is talking
Chael entertains until the octagon door closes, then it's all about the win for The American Gangster!
Entertaining outside and inside of the cage is 2 different stories.
Exactly my thought.
right.
absolutely, i wanna see competition over entertainment.. let the crowd boo all they want
Chael trying to talk some sense into Gaethje just before his big fight with Vick. Gaethje has WAY more tools then he is using and it's starting to become painful to watch, no matter how much entertaining his fights are.
Dennis Justin went from no name to one of the biggest names in his division within a couple fights because of his approach. He will be around longer than any fighter who plays it safe.
@@tacotilko6862 Three letters: C.T.E.
Graeme Williams even if he can’t fight anymore he is setting himself up for being a fan favorite and someone that can host mma shows or whatever he wants.
Gaethje is already slurring like fuck his future is fucked when he carries on
Tacotilko He was going to be a big name regardless. The idiot has sabotaged his health and his career.
When "athletes" start ordering concessions from the stands, I'll start to worry.. When I hear an athlete say that they "put on a good show for the fans" I think of Stephan Bonner/ Forrest Griffin. Typically, there is no question that the fighter is leaving everything out on the mat and the interjection that they "hope that the crowd was entertained" is a testament to their own disappointment that their hand wasn't raised at the conclusion of the match.
Respect
hell yeah Bad Guy CS
Never have I agreed with chael on something more than this , but then again I can relate since I and I assume most who watch mma are or have been athletes before
Not just in this sport. There are some football fans who say this shit as well, especially FC Barcelona fans, who hate the coach because he'd rather have his team grind out a victory when needed rather than play fancy football all the time. Never heard the players complain but the fans. Heard them comment, they wouldn't mind if Barcelona lost as long as they play beautiful football. That's stupid, in a sport, winning is the most important thing.
The undisputed, undefeated, Chael, on false premises.
HEAD MOVEMENT! HEAD MOVEMENT! HEAD MOVEMENT!
As a gambler I agree with Chael on this one
"Bomb squadddd!" Chael Sonnen
100% Right #facts
The gangster preaching fire
They need to be a entertaining winner. People don't want to watch a boring winner unless they are watching them to lose(Mayweather).
Are these clips from a longer podcast?
Cam bat the podcast is called "Your welcome"
I feel like he is talking directly to Justin Gaethje.
The Truth.
Go out there and fight and entertain us with your mind games or talk outside. Fighter in the ring, promotor/entertainer out of it.
Chael IM SURROUNDED BY DUM DUMS Sonnen
Dude anyone else just go whoa.... holy fuck...after the LeBron, tiger, reference.
Chael "the philosopher" Sonnen 😎
You can tell Chael is doubly serious when you don’t even have a trolling tidbit mixed in.
Right on with MMA especially. With American football, although the unwritten rule about running the score up does occur, sometimes avoiding injuries plays a role too.
I’ll also add that (on the other side of the spectrum) I find the Curtis Blades declaration about not caring about fan enjoyment to be stupid too. Do what it takes to win, but saying that out loud is asinine.
I agree. Basketball has similar thinking: avoiding injury, but also at the very end of the game you may find yourself in a physical altercation for running up the score
I always think chael spilled his drink on his shirt, then I realize it's his mics shadow
Ben Askren and justin gaethje is biggest example of win is lesser than entertainment.
Im a amiture boxer and i know im not there to entertain the fans at all i dont givva fuk about the fans i just care about winning that's it and thats why im good.
This sounds like a talk meant for Justin
Ha! I've been saying this since Justin lost to Eddie...
An athlete's job is to entertain out of the ring/cage/court/park, and to win when in those things.
Getting a flashy knockout is better entertainment and better for you than being the guy who got KO'd. Monetarily, health wise and for your reputation as a "entertainer"
Depends on the business. Fighters of UFC needs to entertain in addition to win fights to make the big bucks.
As a fan of MMA, I will say this:
I am not a fan of mindless brawls because that does not take skill of any kind to do. Anyone can throw wild, looping punches and telegraph everything. I am a fan of actual skill, perfect technique and impeccable strategy from fighters. That is why I never missed a fight from the likes of Cruz, GSP, Mighty Mouse, Werdum, Khabib, Jones and the like. If a match turns into a brawl, that's my cue to change the channel.
You would've loved ben askren
We’re in the superfight phase
The shadow of the mic looks like a dancing panda now and again
I waited 7:33, knowing he was going to name drop... Maybe he couldn't pronounce "Gaethje"!
i have a feeling that in the future dum dum fighters get arrested all the time when people catch on them not actually trying to win.
Couldn't agree more haha
The champion IS the money fight.
In other rough times or conflicts, (bar fights, meetings, arguments, Surgery, etc.) I feel like it's in the best interest of everyone involved to just get it done. Nobody wants to argue for days. Nobody wants a 25 minute bar fight. Nobody wants to keep the patient's chest open after heart surgery for longer than needed. Get in. Cause the damage. Take the damage. Get it over with. Go home.
So, I feel like mma fights should be the same. If it takes the whole time, it takes the whole time. If it doesn't, don't make it take the whole time in the interest of "entertainment". Just get in and get out. Anything else is just silly. A 15 second fight is still cool. I'd want the winner's autograph that much more.
Shouldn't be an excuse to be hesitant, you need to be violent, that's whats most entertaining
He's half correct. You have to do both. Cultivate a style that's entertaining and that you believe you can win with, and never tell the marks that you're trying to entertain them.
@@Ch31ck Why are pushing the action and winning mutually exclusive? If your style is boring and nobody wants to watch it, you make less money. You do your best to amend your style to both win and entertain, or you raise skinny kids. To be sure, I hate rock em sock em robots, but there has to be an in between.
What I got from this video is Chael speaking against the second point of your comment. Why do you think the first few comments are Justin Gaetjie name drops?
Chael's job is to drive an Uber, not to run over people while delivering awesome opinions.
Conner did that with Mayweather
Nick and Nate win or lose im paying to see that fight and you better believe im asking for an autograph over the majority of UFC fighters.
Everyone has their own reasoning as why they are tuning in. Hardcore combat sport fans are tuning in to see greatness. The casuals are tuning in to see blows exchanged. It only becomes a problem when fighters start bitching about money fights.
All the more reason why most of the comments here are name drops of Justin Gaethje, a guy who we know can do more than he shows but it seems he's handicapping himself to draw the casuals. The guy is on the right track, but wins are important too.
Chael P for president.
You need to do both.. no one will buy your fight if you always lose or win in boring ways.. That's why the UFC had borrowed so much from the wrestling world when it comes to promotion..
Shawn Michaels vs Brett Hart in UFC
Chael has the view of a point fighter.
The problem is that the UFC prefers the money fights “ Brock lesner vs DC” instead of the quality fights. UFC rewards fighters that put asses in seats not necessarily who wins. The fighters are just trying to play the game too but they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
People will watch this and bet more on james vick
3:00 thats you chael
Chael you funny funny man money fight what does that even mean? Hahahaha
You're right Chael, that's fucking illegal
Why is this not titled 'A message to Justin Gaethje' ?
“Let the promoter speak that dialogue” yeah except if your promoter is Dana White you’re fucked.
YOU LISTENING GAETHJE YOU STAIN?!?!
"Money fight? What's a money fight? Whaddye mean a money fight? You want a money fight? What do you want a money fight for? Money fight?" etc. :)
Says the guy who's been saying that the way new fighters get title shots is by being more wwe than meritocratic... now anytime that someone wins a fight they go "I deserve a title shot or I'm not gonna fight" or "im the champion now I'm not gonna defend for a year or two" like entitled children.
Those horizontal stripes and a heavyweight diet aren't doing Mr. Sonnen's bosom any favors.
What about asking for a money shot?
Chael "that is illegal" Sonnen.
Is this yet another jab at Justin Gaethje?
Side note: is The Gangster bulking up?
Graeme Williams well, he is moving up to heavyweight so probably yes.
@@digaby88 He beat Rampage in the tournament so I know he's at heavyweight. I just didn't notice how big the guy looks😅