This was really informative thank you. I've just finished my first ever brew after brewing everything looked good it seemed the beer had mixed well but after 5 days conditioning the beer still tastes sweet and a little yeasty I've left it for a fee more days and see what happens. But in the future I'm looking into bottling after conditioning and leaving it somewhere dark so this video has really helped thank you !
They are very handy for cleaning bottles. Some people then put them onto a 'bottle tree' to dry out but I tend to find stacking on a dishrack works fine for me.
Thanks really useful video. When I bottled my Lockwood last week after 4 day condition, I cleaned the bottles and then put in the dishwasher, hopefully that was ok. Good tip on the pour I hadn’t checked which angle the beer was flowing out so I did have a fair amount of spillage. Might invest in a small funnel though.
Dishwasher is ok, just need to be careful if you have rinse aid. This may leave a film on the inside of the bottle. Ideally, like beer glasses I try to avoid any use of fairy liquid and just do water, an anti bacterial spray and my sanitiser
@@rup139 Fairy Liquid / washing up liquid isn't too great for glasses as it leaves oils on the glass. Then when you pour the beer you see tiny bubbles from the beer coating the inside of your glass. This can impact carbonation/had retention of the beer.
As I drink a few/multiple pints from each brew on the Pinter, i do refrigerate still. If looking to bottle direct and not drink from the Pinter then you could do without the fridge but then i would say you could perhaps also do without the Pinter at that stage and get a demijohn to brew in.
it's well past midnight, the misses is in bed, my back is stiff and i'm half whispering out of fear but i'm obsessed with my new toy so here's a video on how to wash something and then pour beer into it.
Yep, the missus was asleep Yep, I'm a night owl Yep, I was testing out a new bottling tool, as bottling is the bug bear for me with home brewing And yet you watched the video 😕 😁
Haha, nah you didn't haha. Glad you enjoyed it in some way. Trust me, at night when watching CZcams and clicking through on recommended videos on the side bar, you do end up in some weird corners of CZcams. Other times you just want something mundane to watch whilst you drop off to sleep.
Brewing tip. Don't use detol. You'll always leave residue and any bleach based solution risks an off taste in the beer. Use a proper sterilising agent.
I use the dettol to clean bottles after use and rinse out fully with water. Before bottling I give the bottles a rinse with water (remove any dust etc) then use my no rinse steriliser. Tend to find this works for me but fully understand basis of only using steriliser after drinking with bottles and again before bottling.
This had been bottled after conditioning in the Pinter, and I've already had a few pints from it. It had been in fact bottled 4 days after I had first tapped it
Great video, I am looking at bottling out of office (sorry love the lager) would I still need to add carbonation drops? How long would you leave it bottled for? Also which brew would you recommend, one which is not too bitter, something like Hop House 13 or Stella unfiltered.
If bottling then you need to add carbonation drops or brewing sugar so the beer can undertaken a secondary fermentation and create that carbonation you need when drinking. I would say Wilko do a good session lager which you can always short brew to up the ABV or if possible dry hop lightly to get the hop house effect. But yeah, hop house and Stella unfiltered are both great beers
Which beer were you bottling there? I've got a Lockwood which I put in the fridge to condition yesterday and plan on bottling in a couple of weeks before drinking the rest.
Hi there, just after your opinion really hope you don’t mind. Have a Pinter on order and my plan was to brew and condition in Pinter and then leave in Pinter in the fridge and drink over 2 weeks. After reading some comments I’m not sure it will last in the Pinter for 2 weeks after tapping. Should I be bottling? Should I condition in bottles? I don’t know never done anything like this before but can’t wait. Thanks. Love your videos by the way👍
Hi David, It all depends on how much you will take from the Pinter each time. Every time you pour a pint, the beer removed from in the Pinter is replaced by air. This air is what makes the beers shelf life begin to start ticking. Generally i say once you take out more than 2 pints the 4-5 day shelf life clock starts. If you just took out a pint Saturday and a pint Sunday, i would expect the beer to still continue conditioning and producing co2 and push the air back, maintaining the quality and shelf life. Once you draw that 3rd pint you have up to 5 days left to drink the rest. This can all vary by beer type, temperature conditions and how long you've left the beer to condition. I tend to find i need to bottle 2-3 pints at the end, but rest i have direct from the Pinter.
@@TravelandBrews thank you so much that all makes sense. If I bottle I take it it will taste better when I open the bottle. Do you put anything else in the bottle? Thanks again
If you bottle it can condition for longer and for non hoppy beers this can lead to improved flavours. With hoppy beers they start to mellow in their flavour and aroma over time but should still be good for 6-12 months. When bottling you will need to add sugar or carbonation drops so that the yeast can undertake a secondary fermentation in the bottle to create that CO2 which will do two things. Create that protective CO2 layer at the top of the bottle (Re)Carbonate the beer
Hi, thanks for all your advice my first brew was fantastic, Public house. Frank 2 points and bottled the rest with one carbonation drop. Left for 2 weeks and it was amazing. Just used regular tap water. Second brew was Lockwood which I taped yesterday. Tasted great it was cloudy though. Gonna bottle rest today. Your videos are great for a novice like me. Thanks so much 👍
Excellent video thank you. I notice you didn't rinse after sterilizing the bottle. Even though you leave to dry does it not leave a slight trace of the chemical used to sterilize and therefore affect the beer?
I bought my powdered one from love brewing in the UK. Brew2bottle sell both powder and liquid sanitiser at good prices (ChemSan) and they seem to have the same active ingredients.
Thanks for doing the video. I have bottled Dark Matter and the Kolch (I forget what it is called). I measure sugar granuals direct into the bottle. What are the benefits of dissolving them first? Any plans to make your own recipes? I'm making a Saison with DME and real hops. I then plan to ferment in the Pinter.
I personally like to have sugar dissolved first as means when mixed with the beer it should be quicker/easier for the yeast to reactivate as the sugar is in liquid form. If adding as granules then the sugar will have to dissolve when you add the beer and this may take a bit longer as you might have to wait until the beer comes back up to room temp. I'm looking to try a full grain brew tomorrow or Monday and put it into the Pinter. If that goes well then will start buying grains and hops and trying own recipes
Really helpful video. a few queries I hope you can assist me with. How do I calculate how much sugar to include in each bottle and how long can you keep the beer/lager/cider when bottled? Are the bottles standard bottles or a special type for carbonated drinks. Many thanks
To calculate how much sugar you can use one of the online calculators, such as www.brewersfriend.com/beer-priming-calculator/ You can use PET (plastic) or glass bottles. I use glass bottles with swing caps, but you can use soft drink bottles, just make sure they're cleaned out well. Generally a glass bottle should keep the beer for longer (and if its a high ABV beer it could be for a number of years) but I would say you could keep 4-5% beers in bottles, kept out of light and in a cool temperature, for 2yrs+.
I put a link in the description to Brewstore who sell the Bottle Washer for around a tenner. But you can also pick it up on eBay for around the same price. The sanitiser I original got from Love Brewing, but again you could find similar on brewstore or eBay.
Very helpful video, cheers. I’m planning to bottle a brew from my Pinter 2 into glass bottles. I’ve brought carbonation drops but worried about exploding bottles. Any tips to avoid? 😀
Are they screw top bottles or flip top? Flip tops can hold a lot more pressure and can even vent excess pressure through the rubber seal. I think it would take a lot to have the bottles explode though. Keep in a place where the temp doesn't fluctuate and doesnt get too warm.
@@TravelandBrews thanks for the quick reply. They are flip top, same as in the video. Fingers crossed the Pinter 2 pours okay, seen a lot of chat about people having issues. Keep doing the videos 👍🏼
Am back in UK soon and have my Pinter 1 and 2 waiting for me. Cant wait to try some of their new brews and also see what else can be done with the pinter 2
Great videos. I've just bought a Pinter recently and don't know much about home brewing. Why would you put carbonation tablets or sugar solution in the bottle? What happens if you don't?
Hi Andrew If bottling you would need to add sugar to activate the yeast inside the bottle to create the carbonation. If you didn't add an sugar you would end up with a very flat beer
@@TravelandBrews Ah ok. So it would continue to lose carbonation, despite being sealed? I did wonder if that was the case. Thanks very much for your reply! Look forward to more videos.
If it's something like Space Hopper, recommended with a lesser ferment and condition time, can you just bottle it up without the sugar so it doesn't keep clarifying but stays in the same state for 5-7 days say? Cheers
If looking to bottle what you could do is condition for only 1-2 days to remove excess yeast then bottle. I would generally still add sugar, but I would hope that as the beer hasn't fully settled in the Pinter that it could build up that carbonation in the bottles for you, without added sugar
@@TravelandBrews Thanks mate that makes a lot of sense. Really happy with the Space Hopper after just 3 days of conditioning, came out amazing. I guess what you're saying too really is the sugar is necessary based on how long you plan to keep the bottles - and a big gamble if there's already sugar left? Although if measured correctly, I suppose after a minimum time, the bottles will be carbonated and then retain that for a good while - or would they keep getting stronger and taste flatter? Has anybody or yourself tried to do the primary ferment then straight to bottles for the secondary clarification, like the older school methods?
I've not tried that with the Pinter, but you certainly could do that, you would just end up with a little yeast cake on the bottom of your bottles, so careful when moving and pouring. I think there would still be enough sugars for the yeast, that you would get carbonation. The flavour may change over time due to the hops but think the strength would remain stable as most of the yeast have finished their work.
@@TravelandBrews Something to try! Thanks for the help dude. I was hoping to try the Pilsners for next Sat so that's where I thought of the bottle thing, as I won't have time to condition it well. It's a bad one with a low condition time that one isn't it? We have a local brewery by us in Devon that's very well awarded and known, and they always have yeast in their bottles, now I guess I know why!
Hi I’m about to put a space hopper on I’m looking at bottling before conditioning and tips new to the home brew game could I use carbonation drops if so how many would u recommend thanks
This was really informative thank you.
I've just finished my first ever brew after brewing everything looked good it seemed the beer had mixed well but after 5 days conditioning the beer still tastes sweet and a little yeasty I've left it for a fee more days and see what happens.
But in the future I'm looking into bottling after conditioning and leaving it somewhere dark so this video has really helped thank you !
Thanks for making the video man, really informative.
Does bottling the pinter improve the flavour at all?
Nice vid. Never seen one of those sterilisers before! Straight on eBay!! Thanks!
They are very handy for cleaning bottles.
Some people then put them onto a 'bottle tree' to dry out but I tend to find stacking on a dishrack works fine for me.
Thanks really useful video. When I bottled my Lockwood last week after 4 day condition, I cleaned the bottles and then put in the dishwasher, hopefully that was ok. Good tip on the pour I hadn’t checked which angle the beer was flowing out so I did have a fair amount of spillage. Might invest in a small funnel though.
Dishwasher is ok, just need to be careful if you have rinse aid. This may leave a film on the inside of the bottle.
Ideally, like beer glasses I try to avoid any use of fairy liquid and just do water, an anti bacterial spray and my sanitiser
@@TravelandBrews Is fairy no good for beer glasses?
@@TravelandBrews thanks will try the dettol spray next time as well. Good tip 👍
@@rup139 Fairy Liquid / washing up liquid isn't too great for glasses as it leaves oils on the glass. Then when you pour the beer you see tiny bubbles from the beer coating the inside of your glass. This can impact carbonation/had retention of the beer.
Thanks for the video, do you still refrigerate your Pinter for conditioning period and then bottle? or just bottle after brewing
As I drink a few/multiple pints from each brew on the Pinter, i do refrigerate still.
If looking to bottle direct and not drink from the Pinter then you could do without the fridge but then i would say you could perhaps also do without the Pinter at that stage and get a demijohn to brew in.
it's well past midnight, the misses is in bed, my back is stiff and i'm half whispering out of fear but i'm obsessed with my new toy so here's a video on how to wash something and then pour beer into it.
Yep, the missus was asleep
Yep, I'm a night owl
Yep, I was testing out a new bottling tool, as bottling is the bug bear for me with home brewing
And yet you watched the video 😕 😁
@@TravelandBrews yeah i did, it was very informative. i was tired and bored. dont let me spoil your fun lol
Haha, nah you didn't haha.
Glad you enjoyed it in some way.
Trust me, at night when watching CZcams and clicking through on recommended videos on the side bar, you do end up in some weird corners of CZcams.
Other times you just want something mundane to watch whilst you drop off to sleep.
Brewing tip. Don't use detol. You'll always leave residue and any bleach based solution risks an off taste in the beer. Use a proper sterilising agent.
I use the dettol to clean bottles after use and rinse out fully with water.
Before bottling I give the bottles a rinse with water (remove any dust etc) then use my no rinse steriliser.
Tend to find this works for me but fully understand basis of only using steriliser after drinking with bottles and again before bottling.
Thanks for this! Really helpful, sorry if you said but are you bottling before conditioning or after?
This had been bottled after conditioning in the Pinter, and I've already had a few pints from it. It had been in fact bottled 4 days after I had first tapped it
Great video, I am looking at bottling out of office (sorry love the lager) would I still need to add carbonation drops? How long would you leave it bottled for?
Also which brew would you recommend, one which is not too bitter, something like Hop House 13 or Stella unfiltered.
If bottling then you need to add carbonation drops or brewing sugar so the beer can undertaken a secondary fermentation and create that carbonation you need when drinking.
I would say Wilko do a good session lager which you can always short brew to up the ABV or if possible dry hop lightly to get the hop house effect.
But yeah, hop house and Stella unfiltered are both great beers
Which beer were you bottling there? I've got a Lockwood which I put in the fridge to condition yesterday and plan on bottling in a couple of weeks before drinking the rest.
This was the West Neuvo lager. Any other lager would be the same
Hi there, just after your opinion really hope you don’t mind. Have a Pinter on order and my plan was to brew and condition in Pinter and then leave in Pinter in the fridge and drink over 2 weeks. After reading some comments I’m not sure it will last in the Pinter for 2 weeks after tapping. Should I be bottling? Should I condition in bottles? I don’t know never done anything like this before but can’t wait. Thanks. Love your videos by the way👍
Hi David,
It all depends on how much you will take from the Pinter each time.
Every time you pour a pint, the beer removed from in the Pinter is replaced by air. This air is what makes the beers shelf life begin to start ticking.
Generally i say once you take out more than 2 pints the 4-5 day shelf life clock starts.
If you just took out a pint Saturday and a pint Sunday, i would expect the beer to still continue conditioning and producing co2 and push the air back, maintaining the quality and shelf life. Once you draw that 3rd pint you have up to 5 days left to drink the rest.
This can all vary by beer type, temperature conditions and how long you've left the beer to condition.
I tend to find i need to bottle 2-3 pints at the end, but rest i have direct from the Pinter.
@@TravelandBrews thank you so much that all makes sense. If I bottle I take it it will taste better when I open the bottle. Do you put anything else in the bottle? Thanks again
If you bottle it can condition for longer and for non hoppy beers this can lead to improved flavours.
With hoppy beers they start to mellow in their flavour and aroma over time but should still be good for 6-12 months.
When bottling you will need to add sugar or carbonation drops so that the yeast can undertake a secondary fermentation in the bottle to create that CO2 which will do two things.
Create that protective CO2 layer at the top of the bottle
(Re)Carbonate the beer
@@TravelandBrews thanks very much all very helpful. Can’t wait until it is delivered next week
Hi, thanks for all your advice my first brew was fantastic, Public house. Frank 2 points and bottled the rest with one carbonation drop. Left for 2 weeks and it was amazing. Just used regular tap water. Second brew was Lockwood which I taped yesterday. Tasted great it was cloudy though. Gonna bottle rest today. Your videos are great for a novice like me. Thanks so much 👍
Excellent video thank you. I notice you didn't rinse after sterilizing the bottle. Even though you leave to dry does it not leave a slight trace of the chemical used to sterilize and therefore affect the beer?
Hi Keith, i use a no rinse steriliser which becomes inactive after 20mins or so, meaning after drying i can go straight into bottling.
@@TravelandBrews Thanks for the quick response. Just searching for some online now, which make do you buy if I may ask?
I bought my powdered one from love brewing in the UK.
Brew2bottle sell both powder and liquid sanitiser at good prices (ChemSan) and they seem to have the same active ingredients.
Where can you get the bottles ?
Wilkos
@@lastdimestudios Yep, Wilko, The Range, online bottle shops. Loads of places to choose from.
Thanks for doing the video. I have bottled Dark Matter and the Kolch (I forget what it is called). I measure sugar granuals direct into the bottle. What are the benefits of dissolving them first? Any plans to make your own recipes? I'm making a Saison with DME and real hops. I then plan to ferment in the Pinter.
I personally like to have sugar dissolved first as means when mixed with the beer it should be quicker/easier for the yeast to reactivate as the sugar is in liquid form.
If adding as granules then the sugar will have to dissolve when you add the beer and this may take a bit longer as you might have to wait until the beer comes back up to room temp.
I'm looking to try a full grain brew tomorrow or Monday and put it into the Pinter. If that goes well then will start buying grains and hops and trying own recipes
Really helpful video. a few queries I hope you can assist me with. How do I calculate how much sugar to include in each bottle and how long can you keep the beer/lager/cider when bottled? Are the bottles standard bottles or a special type for carbonated drinks. Many thanks
To calculate how much sugar you can use one of the online calculators, such as www.brewersfriend.com/beer-priming-calculator/
You can use PET (plastic) or glass bottles. I use glass bottles with swing caps, but you can use soft drink bottles, just make sure they're cleaned out well.
Generally a glass bottle should keep the beer for longer (and if its a high ABV beer it could be for a number of years) but I would say you could keep 4-5% beers in bottles, kept out of light and in a cool temperature, for 2yrs+.
Good video mate. You got a link for where you got the bottle washer and tub of sterilising stuff
I put a link in the description to Brewstore who sell the Bottle Washer for around a tenner. But you can also pick it up on eBay for around the same price.
The sanitiser I original got from Love Brewing, but again you could find similar on brewstore or eBay.
@@TravelandBrews ok mate. Any particular brand of sanitiser better than another
The best style is a non-rinse one like given by the Pinter
Star San or any powdered no rinse
brewstore do a Oxi no rinse and Wilko have a one as welk
@@TravelandBrews ok cheers
@@allthebeernoidea180 I use chemsan it's a no rinse sanitizer, get my from brew2bottle get most of my home brew supplies from there.
Very helpful video, cheers. I’m planning to bottle a brew from my Pinter 2 into glass bottles. I’ve brought carbonation drops but worried about exploding bottles. Any tips to avoid? 😀
Are they screw top bottles or flip top?
Flip tops can hold a lot more pressure and can even vent excess pressure through the rubber seal.
I think it would take a lot to have the bottles explode though. Keep in a place where the temp doesn't fluctuate and doesnt get too warm.
@@TravelandBrews thanks for the quick reply. They are flip top, same as in the video. Fingers crossed the Pinter 2 pours okay, seen a lot of chat about people having issues. Keep doing the videos 👍🏼
Am back in UK soon and have my Pinter 1 and 2 waiting for me. Cant wait to try some of their new brews and also see what else can be done with the pinter 2
Great videos. I've just bought a Pinter recently and don't know much about home brewing. Why would you put carbonation tablets or sugar solution in the bottle? What happens if you don't?
Hi Andrew
If bottling you would need to add sugar to activate the yeast inside the bottle to create the carbonation.
If you didn't add an sugar you would end up with a very flat beer
@@TravelandBrews Ah ok. So it would continue to lose carbonation, despite being sealed? I did wonder if that was the case. Thanks very much for your reply! Look forward to more videos.
If it's something like Space Hopper, recommended with a lesser ferment and condition time, can you just bottle it up without the sugar so it doesn't keep clarifying but stays in the same state for 5-7 days say? Cheers
If looking to bottle what you could do is condition for only 1-2 days to remove excess yeast then bottle.
I would generally still add sugar, but I would hope that as the beer hasn't fully settled in the Pinter that it could build up that carbonation in the bottles for you, without added sugar
@@TravelandBrews Thanks mate that makes a lot of sense. Really happy with the Space Hopper after just 3 days of conditioning, came out amazing. I guess what you're saying too really is the sugar is necessary based on how long you plan to keep the bottles - and a big gamble if there's already sugar left? Although if measured correctly, I suppose after a minimum time, the bottles will be carbonated and then retain that for a good while - or would they keep getting stronger and taste flatter?
Has anybody or yourself tried to do the primary ferment then straight to bottles for the secondary clarification, like the older school methods?
I've not tried that with the Pinter, but you certainly could do that, you would just end up with a little yeast cake on the bottom of your bottles, so careful when moving and pouring.
I think there would still be enough sugars for the yeast, that you would get carbonation. The flavour may change over time due to the hops but think the strength would remain stable as most of the yeast have finished their work.
@@TravelandBrews Something to try! Thanks for the help dude. I was hoping to try the Pilsners for next Sat so that's where I thought of the bottle thing, as I won't have time to condition it well. It's a bad one with a low condition time that one isn't it?
We have a local brewery by us in Devon that's very well awarded and known, and they always have yeast in their bottles, now I guess I know why!
How long will it keep in the bottle....... Great video
A year to two if kept in good conditions. Ive just opened and tasted one i bottled back in March and its still good!
@@TravelandBrews excellent thank you
Hi, how much water per gr of sugar do you add? Thank you
I would do 150ml per 100g
You could get away with 1:1 but i just do the 3:2 to make sure it all fully dissolves
Thank you Liam
Hi I’m about to put a space hopper on I’m looking at bottling before conditioning and tips new to the home brew game could I use carbonation drops if so how many would u recommend thanks
You can use carbonation drops. I assume your bottling into 500ml bottles, then two drops per bottle should suffice.
Yes I would be thanks for advice I let u know the results 👍🏻
Space hopper is a great beer. I'm sure you'll enjoy it and hope the bottling Comes out good!
Also how long would condition these for in the bottle thanks
After 4 weeks i would say they are good to drink. And mine are still good after 4 months in the bottle, though hop flavour will disappear over time