Ray, I have the same setup with the extended tongue, however what I did was instead of bolts for the ball coupler and the rear bracket on the front cross member I used Pins that I can remove and pull my 2" square Aluminum tube out and that lets me fold up the trailer.
Could I by chance see that was wondering about adding a 5ft steel tube to extend length but didn't want to weld was thinking of adjustable one that can slide in and out of the square are under the coupler. And bolt it on there.
NICE! I have a 13ft, 75lb fishing kayak. This setup would be perfect so I don't have to put the kayak on top of my minivan, the problem is I don't have the skills necessary to do something like this. Awesome vid by the way.
The video is 6 yrs old, and this is the first time i saw it or your channel. Glad tocsee your modifications. I'm curious if you still use it as it was or if you modified it again. I see how you can restore the tilt feature, and I was concerned about the front leg attachment. Hope there have been no issues.
Hello, looks like a fairly complex build given I may not have the tools and skills to pull this off. I saw one more video that someone put a few bunks that is about 10 feet long. What do you think are the disadvantage of having such a long bunk on the trailer ? Thanks
What thickness is that Square steel tubing that you are using for trailer tongue extension? I am doing the same on my trailer. Thanks! Awesome job by the way.
@@RayMAKES - I built a motorcycle carrier for my 2" square receiver, and when selecting materials, I tested the thinnest sq. tube I dared, by "borrowing" a 6' length at the steel seller's parking lot, sticking it in the hitch receiver, then standing on the furthest end to see what 200 lbs. would do. It didn't flex or bend when I did that, so I jumped up and down on it, and it still didn't seem affected by my weight. Since I was putting the 280-lb. motorcycle track sideways on it at only about 2-3' out from the receiver, I knew it would be able to take the bike's load easily. The tube had a 1/8" wall. With this "gut-level engineering" in mind, I think your choice of 3/16" wall tubing, 50% thicker than mine, was the correct choice for your extension: the lightest weight while still being plenty strong for the load. I might have gone with 1/8", since yours would see even less load than mine (yours would only have the cantilevered tongue weight on it, which I am guessing would be no more than 40lbs. give or take, but hey - safety first, when doing your own modifications, right? 😎 For the axle U-channel, I know you considered making a square tube replacement, but decided to leave it alone for now, seeing as how it will likely be fine as-is with your boat as the load. My biggest concern would be that the axles are too short for my liking, with the inboard bolts under tensile loads that vary and get worked with each bounce. Lastly, I would like to compliment you on the video and editing, fast forwarding at the right places, and the great explanations you gave the viewers. Good job, sir! I watched tyour assemble and modification videos primarily thinking about building a simple 250-lb. camper onto it. That would be a challenge, keeping the whole thing under 500 lbs. total, but I may be able to select materials that could help me achieve that goal, with perhaps a low profile when towing, and a pop-up when parked. It would be for a small sedan I drive that gets great mpg, and but is only rated to tow 500 lbs. max. Final note: I hope you made sure to set up the boat to give the trailer adequate tongue weight, as it adds tracking stability to a trailer when there is more weight in front of the wheels than behind them. There's a nice little video with a model car and trailer on a "treadmill" type belt that shows how correct tongue weight is so important to prevent trailer whip. Peace, and happy boating!
Interesting, I would love to see the faces on our registration authority in Melbourne and the cost of an engineer’s certificate to get registration as a result. Cheaper to buy the boat trailer. I cannot believe you didn’t factor in the non-tilt issue. As I say interesting. Cheers 🇦🇺👍🍺🍺🍺
I thought that,, if you used two pieces of square tube for the tongue extension you could telescope one piece inside the other so as to allow shortening the trailer, and by replacing that red piece with a piece of channel iron (2.5w x 2.5h x 5 L) the larger tube would fit (snugly) into, you could revive the tilting option. a 5/8" hole through the channel iron and both sections of SQ tube at the extended length and one through the larger SQ Tube at the collapsed position would allow the trailer to tilt again (when the pin was removed as well as shorten/lengthen the trailer at Will (or Ray). Now, as it stands, replacing that red thing with a piece of SQ Tube the extension piece would SLIDE in/out of and hinging the extension where it is presently fastened to the first cross member would allow you to tilt the trailer as well. And, in that variation, having the forward piece of the extension slide back over the smaller section (attached to the hinge at the frame) you could allow for varying the amount of extension. By the way - nice looking boat! Given the effort and cost to build that boat, why skimp on it's supporting equipment! I thought. Then, I checked trailer prices. It's been over ten years since i last bought a (14') boat trailer. Inflation - its robbing us blind!
did you fabricate the flange on the extention or was that purchased with it. If it was purchases, where did you get it? Also, what was the size of the metal extention? Nice job on the build!
+Dan Maxwell yes, I fabricated all the parts. The flange was cut on the waterjet... Yes I have a waterjet, check my other videos an you will see it. The extension is about 5' long.
I like that first way you had your trailer stand. What kind and what size was that box material. It kind of looked like unistrut but it also looked like a full square.
Hello Mr. Ray I was wondering what are the measuring for the hand crack adapter? I have a trailer just like yours, I put some 3/4 plywood sheet, But what I need is how to make the same thing that you have in the front of the trailer to pull the 12.5 Catalina inflatable boat in to the trailer.. any help from you it will be very Appreciated, and thank you for your time,
Thank you for these videos. This build my problem with my boat! would a 2.5" square metal tube still fit as the tongue instead of the 2" that you used shims with or would it bee too tight to fit?
Does this boat trailer work like most boat trailers? Where you back it into the water down a ramp to launch and recover boat. If so you may need to upgrade a few things for water submertion like the lights, the wheel bearings, the hardware, the wheels, the frame etc. But the rest should be ok. :)
i'm not sure how much of it i will get in the water, the boat is so light i may be able to get away with getting it close and pushing it off/pulling it on. this is just a little river boat...and the river is only 2 blocks away. once i get it in the water the first time i will have a better idea of the weak points.
Cliff .. I just sealed (liquid gasket) the lights that came with the trailer, which works okay for the few moments it's actually in the water. Use marine grease on the wheel bearings just like regular boat trailers use. Wouldn't recommend this trailer for salt water (rust), but it's just fine for fresh water (lakes, rivers, etc).
Hi, I have a legitimate question, I am not trying to be smart, Why did you use the magnetic drill to drop through the frame in the front of the trailer, seemed like a lot of set up time, and looked to me like I could have done it with a battery powered drop, how thick is the frame, 3mm wall thickness, I could see it flexing as you drilled it. Cheers for the reply.
Love your videos man! I have a request and I know you probably don't have time to make one but I want to build a 4ft x 2ft x 2ft enclosure for my snakes with sliding glass doors on the front. I know you don't do these types of videos but since your really good at building projects, I thought I'd ask. I can't find a good video on CZcams to teach me but if you can do it, that'll be awesome and if you can't, either way I still love your videos (:
thanks!! i actually built a custom enclosure years ago...for my African ball python. i don't have the snake anymore but the enclosure was all plexigalss, with multiple levels. i had a flip top on it but she would go all over the enclosure. it was 4' long 2' tall and 18" wide. when she started getting big and after winter hibernation, she became a little aggressive so i would drop a mouse on one level and another one on another level and she would eat them at her own pace
Wow that's awesome, yea I'm obsessed with reptiles, I have 4 snakes 2 geckos and 3 lizards lol but yea if you can make an enclosure video that would be awesome and by the way I think you should get a snake again lol A Red Tail Boa would be perfect, they grow big and they are extremely gentle and tame
i got the african ball for free as a hatch-ling! it was nice to watch her grow. if i get another i would like it to be a hatch-ling as well....and for free would be nice, lol
That’s so much work. Your not counting your time as money, but my time is way too valuable to do that. I’ll just spend $1,500 and get an aluminum karavan single pwc trailer and forget about it. You didn’t save any money wasting a week plus all that metal and fabrication.
Maybe it's not worth it for YOU.... but considering all the money I made from these videos... my trailer is free AND I made 10X the money it cost in time... so maybe one of us needs to learn a little more about investing
ha, i bet it is! I even wore my Chanclas just for you! yeah that little mag drill is awesome, we have much bigger ones but that little one is great for small jobs like this. tell me the truth, you started looking on CL for one didn't you!
Instead of all the effort of modifying the trailer tongue, why not just buy a two-foot *hitch receiver extension* for your vehicle? Extensions available up to about 4-ft long. Exact same benefit (boat further forward, etc) without the hassle. Mounted my winch on that receiver extension, which all folds and sits on the trailer tongue between use.
Ray .. Stumbled across hitch extensions while pondering a way to extend the trailer tongue for my 12.5' inflatable. After a bit of research, seemed the obvious solution. Reduces how much tongue weight the truck's receiver can support, but these small boat/trailer combos don't even approach that. Anyway, did enjoy watching the effort put into your solution. By the way, my trailer still tilts. ;)
This is why I love CZcams! I have a 4x6 utility trailer and need an 8 footer at least to load a pond prowler 10’ boat. I thought about welding and extension to the rear, but was worried I would be dangerously be modifying the CG of the trailer. The hitch receiver extension idea is PERFECT for me!! Thank you!!!
Some one with a shop like that Y buy a trailer from harborfreight you should have billd your own trailer it would have been stronger and it would have been the way you want it to be like. If you sit back and think about it you still can make that trailer into a tilt trailer.
I'm sorry but for me many of these additions seemed like a waste of time. build a dedicated trailer. and you Americans have unsafe safety chains. those S shackles can just jump out. What you need is U shackles that cant come loose.
How wonderful to have a fully equipped shop and the knowledge to use all the tools and machinery.
It really is
Ray, I have the same setup with the extended tongue, however what I did was instead of bolts for the ball coupler and the rear bracket on the front cross member I used Pins that I can remove and pull my 2" square Aluminum tube out and that lets me fold up the trailer.
+boatbuilder1 that is a great idea
Could I by chance see that was wondering about adding a 5ft steel tube to extend length but didn't want to weld was thinking of adjustable one that can slide in and out of the square are under the coupler. And bolt it on there.
NICE! I have a 13ft, 75lb fishing kayak. This setup would be perfect so I don't have to put the kayak on top of my minivan, the problem is I don't have the skills necessary to do something like this. Awesome vid by the way.
Glad you liked it. It was an interesting project. Did you watch all 3 videos, including the water test?
Haven’t watched the water test part yet but I’m gonna.
I am SO JEALOUS of your tools and machines.....😀
Lol, I have a few
The video is 6 yrs old, and this is the first time i saw it or your channel. Glad tocsee your modifications.
I'm curious if you still use it as it was or if you modified it again. I see how you can restore the tilt feature, and I was concerned about the front leg attachment. Hope there have been no issues.
No issues, still works great
Hello, looks like a fairly complex build given I may not have the tools and skills to pull this off. I saw one more video that someone put a few bunks that is about 10 feet long. What do you think are the disadvantage of having such a long bunk on the trailer ? Thanks
None I can think of
What thickness is that Square steel tubing that you are using for trailer tongue extension? I am doing the same on my trailer. Thanks! Awesome job by the way.
Thank glad you liked it. i think the tube is 2"x2" and the wall is 3/16"
@@RayMAKES - I built a motorcycle carrier for my 2" square receiver, and when selecting materials, I tested the thinnest sq. tube I dared, by "borrowing" a 6' length at the steel seller's parking lot, sticking it in the hitch receiver, then standing on the furthest end to see what 200 lbs. would do. It didn't flex or bend when I did that, so I jumped up and down on it, and it still didn't seem affected by my weight. Since I was putting the 280-lb. motorcycle track sideways on it at only about 2-3' out from the receiver, I knew it would be able to take the bike's load easily. The tube had a 1/8" wall. With this "gut-level engineering" in mind, I think your choice of 3/16" wall tubing, 50% thicker than mine, was the correct choice for your extension: the lightest weight while still being plenty strong for the load. I might have gone with 1/8", since yours would see even less load than mine (yours would only have the cantilevered tongue weight on it, which I am guessing would be no more than 40lbs. give or take, but hey - safety first, when doing your own modifications, right? 😎
For the axle U-channel, I know you considered making a square tube replacement, but decided to leave it alone for now, seeing as how it will likely be fine as-is with your boat as the load. My biggest concern would be that the axles are too short for my liking, with the inboard bolts under tensile loads that vary and get worked with each bounce.
Lastly, I would like to compliment you on the video and editing, fast forwarding at the right places, and the great explanations you gave the viewers. Good job, sir!
I watched tyour assemble and modification videos primarily thinking about building a simple 250-lb. camper onto it. That would be a challenge, keeping the whole thing under 500 lbs. total, but I may be able to select materials that could help me achieve that goal, with perhaps a low profile when towing, and a pop-up when parked. It would be for a small sedan I drive that gets great mpg, and but is only rated to tow 500 lbs. max.
Final note: I hope you made sure to set up the boat to give the trailer adequate tongue weight, as it adds tracking stability to a trailer when there is more weight in front of the wheels than behind them. There's a nice little video with a model car and trailer on a "treadmill" type belt that shows how correct tongue weight is so important to prevent trailer whip.
Peace, and happy boating!
Interesting, I would love to see the faces on our registration authority in Melbourne and the cost of an engineer’s certificate to get registration as a result. Cheaper to buy the boat trailer. I cannot believe you didn’t factor in the non-tilt issue. As I say interesting. Cheers 🇦🇺👍🍺🍺🍺
yeah, i hear things are getting worse in Australia (with the restrictive government)
I thought that,, if you used two pieces of square tube for the tongue extension you could telescope one piece inside the other so as to allow shortening the trailer, and by replacing that red piece with a piece of channel iron (2.5w x 2.5h x 5 L) the larger tube would fit (snugly) into, you could revive the tilting option. a 5/8" hole through the channel iron and both sections of SQ tube at the extended length and one through the larger SQ Tube at the collapsed position would allow the trailer to tilt again (when the pin was removed as well as shorten/lengthen the trailer at Will (or Ray). Now, as it stands, replacing that red thing with a piece of SQ Tube the extension piece would SLIDE in/out of and hinging the extension where it is presently fastened to the first cross member would allow you to tilt the trailer as well. And, in that variation, having the forward piece of the extension slide back over the smaller section (attached to the hinge at the frame) you could allow for varying the amount of extension.
By the way - nice looking boat! Given the effort and cost to build that boat, why skimp on it's supporting equipment! I thought. Then, I checked trailer prices. It's been over ten years since i last bought a (14') boat trailer. Inflation - its robbing us blind!
Great ideas
Make larger holes and use more Pin and clips to keep tilting feature.
good idea!
WOW! pretty impressive!
Thanks
did you fabricate the flange on the extention or was that purchased with it. If it was purchases, where did you get it? Also, what was the size of the metal extention?
Nice job on the build!
+Dan Maxwell yes, I fabricated all the parts. The flange was cut on the waterjet... Yes I have a waterjet, check my other videos an you will see it. The extension is about 5' long.
I wish I have equipment like those.
It's nice, but everyone wants you to make stuff for free
A good job , and a good post. cheers !
+Ron Grovis THANKS
I like that first way you had your trailer stand.
What kind and what size was that box material. It kind of looked like unistrut but it also looked like a full square.
It was perferorated square tube
how many miles an hour is that rated for? great Job
I believe 45mph
Hello Mr. Ray I was wondering what are the measuring for the hand crack adapter? I have a trailer just like yours, I put some 3/4 plywood sheet, But what I need is how to make the same thing that you have in the front of the trailer to pull the 12.5 Catalina inflatable boat in to the trailer.. any help from you it will be very Appreciated, and thank you for your time,
Sure, it's an easy part to make
Thank you for these videos. This build my problem with my boat! would a 2.5" square metal tube still fit as the tongue instead of the 2" that you used shims with or would it bee too tight to fit?
the shims are only on the sides. top to bottom is only 2"
Does this boat trailer work like most boat trailers? Where you back it into the water down a ramp to launch and recover boat. If so you may need to upgrade a few things for water submertion like the lights, the wheel bearings, the hardware, the wheels, the frame etc. But the rest should be ok. :)
i'm not sure how much of it i will get in the water, the boat is so light i may be able to get away with getting it close and pushing it off/pulling it on. this is just a little river boat...and the river is only 2 blocks away. once i get it in the water the first time i will have a better idea of the weak points.
Cliff .. I just sealed (liquid gasket) the lights that came with the trailer, which works okay for the few moments it's actually in the water. Use marine grease on the wheel bearings just like regular boat trailers use. Wouldn't recommend this trailer for salt water (rust), but it's just fine for fresh water (lakes, rivers, etc).
Hi, I have a legitimate question, I am not trying to be smart, Why did you use the magnetic drill to drop through the frame in the front of the trailer, seemed like a lot of set up time, and looked to me like I could have done it with a battery powered drop, how thick is the frame, 3mm wall thickness, I could see it flexing as you drilled it. Cheers for the reply.
The set up wasn't bad. I used the mag drill, because I had it. Although not completely necessary for the job, it made it a little easier
Love your videos man! I have a request and I know you probably don't have time to make one but I want to build a 4ft x 2ft x 2ft enclosure for my snakes with sliding glass doors on the front. I know you don't do these types of videos but since your really good at building projects, I thought I'd ask. I can't find a good video on CZcams to teach me but if you can do it, that'll be awesome and if you can't, either way I still love your videos (:
thanks!! i actually built a custom enclosure years ago...for my African
ball python. i don't have the snake anymore but the enclosure was all
plexigalss, with multiple levels. i had a flip top on it but she would
go all over the enclosure. it was 4' long 2' tall and 18" wide. when
she started getting big and after winter hibernation, she became a
little aggressive so i would drop a mouse on one level and another one
on another level and she would eat them at her own pace
Wow that's awesome, yea I'm obsessed with reptiles, I have 4 snakes 2 geckos and 3 lizards lol but yea if you can make an enclosure video that would be awesome and by the way I think you should get a snake again lol A Red Tail Boa would be perfect, they grow big and they are extremely gentle and tame
i got the african ball for free as a hatch-ling! it was nice to watch her grow. if i get another i would like it to be a hatch-ling as well....and for free would be nice, lol
I was kind of wondering why you just didn't build your own frame, seeing you are in what looks like a major machine shop.
+St8kout the issue is the title... here getting a home built trailer title is an ordeal.... much easier to get a titled trailer and modify
St8kout god damn I was thinking the same thing LMAO
I was talking about your little boat , never seen a finished photo after you added transom or foam for floatation
Ah, ok. I'm still working on it. I have most of part 11 filmed but not edited.
What size tubing did you use for the tongue??
I believe 2x2
7:43 Bird in the shop!
no doors on the shop yet, so they get in
That’s so much work. Your not counting your time as money, but my time is way too valuable to do that. I’ll just spend $1,500 and get an aluminum karavan single pwc trailer and forget about it. You didn’t save any money wasting a week plus all that metal and fabrication.
Maybe it's not worth it for YOU.... but considering all the money I made from these videos... my trailer is free AND I made 10X the money it cost in time... so maybe one of us needs to learn a little more about investing
@@RayMAKES you made 10x the money it coat in time? So, you made $10 an hour. Good for you!
Sometimes, projects aren't about the cost so much as the benefits outweigh the cost.
I think you helped and inspired many people. Myself included.
Do you think you could have made it longer by extending the back end by 2 feet?
Yes, definitely possible
Nice mag drill adapter! Where did you get that?
i've had it so long i don't remember
Ya everybody I know with a boat has a shop just like that!
everyone i know does as well. pretty standard i think
This is the worst "May the 4th be with you" video I have watched today! JK man that magnetic drill is freaking cool, never seen that before.
ha, i bet it is! I even wore my Chanclas just for you! yeah that little mag drill is awesome, we have much bigger ones but that little one is great for small jobs like this. tell me the truth, you started looking on CL for one didn't you!
Hahaha I noticed your choice of footwear.
Instead of all the effort of modifying the trailer tongue, why not just buy a two-foot *hitch receiver extension* for your vehicle? Extensions available up to about 4-ft long. Exact same benefit (boat further forward, etc) without the hassle. Mounted my winch on that receiver extension, which all folds and sits on the trailer tongue between use.
i guess its because i already had everything i needed, and also because i like to go about things the hard way
Ray .. Stumbled across hitch extensions while pondering a way to extend the trailer tongue for my 12.5' inflatable. After a bit of research, seemed the obvious solution. Reduces how much tongue weight the truck's receiver can support, but these small boat/trailer combos don't even approach that. Anyway, did enjoy watching the effort put into your solution. By the way, my trailer still tilts. ;)
This is why I love CZcams! I have a 4x6 utility trailer and need an 8 footer at least to load a pond prowler 10’ boat. I thought about welding and extension to the rear, but was worried I would be dangerously be modifying the CG of the trailer. The hitch receiver extension idea is PERFECT for me!! Thank you!!!
Sometimes you just have to just drill without complications. A couple of small holes, come on!!! No need for the magnet drill.
need it, no, but since i had it might as well use it
Or if you could able to make the L shape thing for me!? I could able to pay for your item and for your time! Thank you again.
Are you referring to the side plates in steel?
Some one with a shop like that Y buy a trailer from harborfreight you should have billd your own trailer it would have been stronger and it would have been the way you want it to be like. If you sit back and think about it you still can make that trailer into a tilt trailer.
While I can make anything... economics are still a factor.
Carriage bolts on metal framing...LOL.
Yeah, I was surprised too
Music: Why is it 99-44/100% of CZcams videographers use music from 1970's era soft core porn movies??
because of copyright issues
Hang on while I buy a Bridgeport mill before I mod my 300.00 Chinese trailer.
Don't forget to take the time to complain about the things you don't have
Put the tube on the bottom
not sure what you mean?
All that work, he could have bought trailer.
True, but the videos needed to be made... and paid for tge trailer
I'm sorry but for me many of these additions seemed like a waste of time. build a dedicated trailer. and you Americans have unsafe safety chains. those S shackles can just jump out. What you need is U shackles that cant come loose.
Glad you liked it
Of course you never finish it from here
do you mean that i didnt finish the trailer? part 2 shows more development czcams.com/video/W9vjh_ffuJM/video.html
and part 3 shows the finished trailer with a water test czcams.com/video/VAoA6HETpGM/video.html
so im not sure what you mean by "of course" i never finished it
Ok so music is annoying.
yeah but its copyright free