Couple points, those notches that you pointed out are actually the center of bend for different angles. For example, my Milwaukee bender has three of them, and as per the instructions on the handle, the first notch is a center of a bend for a 30, then 45, then 60 degree bend if memory serves. On this particular Klein bender the star dictates the back of a bend when viewed from above, looking down with the pipe on the ground and the bender handle vertical, it happens to line up with the notch, but that is not true on every bender. Furthermore, shrinkage only affects the pipe downstream of the bend- the first end of the pipe is inside the coupling and is a fixed point. Concerning shrinkage, whatever the first bend is going into the saddle will dictate what shrinkage you use. For example, in this video, you used a 22.5° bend, so the shrinkage would be 3/16 per inch of rise if you used a 30° bend then the shrinkage would be 1/4 in. per inch of rise, etc. Another point to mention is, it’s more common practice when doing a three bend saddles to use the push through method, bending the first bend first, and then the center bend second and then the third bend last- doing so ensures leverage, if your saddle were near the end of the pipe instead of in the center as shown in this video.
As a handyman who dabbles in electrical work, what I would do is unscrew that piece of channel, run the conduit against the wall underneath it. Screw the channel back over the pipe and take a sledge and bash both ends of the unistrut until it conformed around the pipe. No bender or calculations needed! 👍
@@StarvingElectrician haha I thought you would appreciate that comment. 😁. Appreciate your channel and your style my man. And of course a love of tacos! and Guys Im not actually a handyman. Save your rants lol.
In the real world that channel or unistrut will have pipes on it or would be a J box. I'd love to see someone remove them just to run a conduit pipe that can just jump over it but then again... if your getting paid by the hour....😂😂
Hello Mr. SE; Can you please do a four points bend and a more of a complex bend using 15, 221/2, 45, and 60° bends so that people can relate to?? I really appreciate your videos and thank you!!!!!
I'm obviously not as smart as your average viewer. I hope in the future you could do this video again more slowly with more visuals. I was trying to capture what you were saying but the numbers and the angles were coming at me too fast. But I do enjoy your posts and eagerly await them every week. Please keep on doing what you're doing. And have a taco and a beer for me!
I still don’t know how to decide what degree of bend to use for the height of the obstacle/ offset. Is it something you just know? Like I use 10 degrees for my box offsets on a flat surface. Other than that, it’s pretty much trial and error. I’m an apprentice.
I can Wing a saddle over that, it would be a four point saddle bend to allow for strapping to the unistrut but I can use a tape measure just so I can show you what I'm doing , I don't know if you're going to cuz I haven't seen the video yet but don't put any marks on your conduit with a sharpie, I've never done any multipliers or anything I just pencil mark my saddle on the conduit and allow for the shrinkage. You got to know your notches though I'm going to make a video because I can show so many shortcuts and tricks, to avoid adding bones to the Bone pile, I can bend conduit, just like the man who taught me, I was the best until I trained a bunch of guys that are out there, bending it, better than Beckham I just went up north to Oakland off the couch and bent 300 ft of half inch conduit without a mistake, every whitch Way and every kind of v Bend you can imagine, even a shepherd's hook offset
@@generissui2737 nope but I'm still bending pipe yesterday I bent a beautiful round saddle over a half inch pipe and offset 90s I even got to do a shepherd's bow 200 ft of half inch pipe and not one mistake.
Hello sir, quick question how come the 22.5 multiplier is 2.5 instead of 2.6? Everything else is the same multiplier when doing offset but only 22.5 is different….
As an electrician apprentice who has a conduit bending test coming up soon, this has been more informative than what I've learned at school.
Local 26?
@peteeny1265 yes sir.
I hate pipe bending! Like you said "the satisfaction of making it all come together is nice". I will agree!
Pipe bending and trouble shooting are my favorites. I love the challenge
MAN that was pretty...AND FAST!!! Dude just snatched those bends and was perfect with it. It's nice to have a professional instructing the class! 😁
One of the most informative videos for this on CZcams. Nice! Thanks!
Definitely helpful! Could you do a video on offsets, box offsets, kicks etc? Difference between a forward 90 and a stub 90, back to back 90's?
yep thats in the works on my floppy disc I call my brain....lol
Couple points, those notches that you pointed out are actually the center of bend for different angles. For example, my Milwaukee bender has three of them, and as per the instructions on the handle, the first notch is a center of a bend for a 30, then 45, then 60 degree bend if memory serves. On this particular Klein bender the star dictates the back of a bend when viewed from above, looking down with the pipe on the ground and the bender handle vertical, it happens to line up with the notch, but that is not true on every bender.
Furthermore, shrinkage only affects the pipe downstream of the bend- the first end of the pipe is inside the coupling and is a fixed point.
Concerning shrinkage, whatever the first bend is going into the saddle will dictate what shrinkage you use. For example, in this video, you used a 22.5° bend, so the shrinkage would be 3/16 per inch of rise if you used a 30° bend then the shrinkage would be 1/4 in. per inch of rise, etc.
Another point to mention is, it’s more common practice when doing a three bend saddles to use the push through method, bending the first bend first, and then the center bend second and then the third bend last- doing so ensures leverage, if your saddle were near the end of the pipe instead of in the center as shown in this video.
Got a midterm tomorrow this video has been very helpful thank you sir
As a handyman who dabbles in electrical work, what I would do is unscrew that piece of channel, run the conduit against the wall underneath it. Screw the channel back over the pipe and take a sledge and bash both ends of the unistrut until it conformed around the pipe. No bender or calculations needed! 👍
LMFAO!!!!!! shhhhhhh me tooooo!
@@StarvingElectrician haha I thought you would appreciate that comment. 😁. Appreciate your channel and your style my man. And of course a love of tacos! and Guys Im not actually a handyman. Save your rants lol.
In the real world that channel or unistrut will have pipes on it or would be a J box. I'd love to see someone remove them just to run a conduit pipe that can just jump over it but then again... if your getting paid by the hour....😂😂
@@StarvingElectrician 🤣
Appreciate your channel!
awsome video, thank you for making this a very funny and educational video. this is going to help me out a lot for the group project I have tomorrow
Thanks for the lesson. Much appreciated.
im glad you got something out of it
Hello Mr. SE; Can you please do a four points bend and a more of a complex bend using 15, 221/2, 45, and 60° bends so that people can relate to?? I really appreciate your videos and thank you!!!!!
Well explained, thank you 🙏
thanks so much
I'm obviously not as smart as your average viewer. I hope in the future you could do this video again more slowly with more visuals. I was trying to capture what you were saying but the numbers and the angles were coming at me too fast. But I do enjoy your posts and eagerly await them every week. Please keep on doing what you're doing. And have a taco and a beer for me!
Noted! will do thanks
Dude you meet at the bar, and he starts talking math, and you are like-WTF-LOL Great Vid!!!
Great video. Thankyou
Thank sir , your videos are very helpful
Great video, thanks for the help!
Thanks for all the info..cheers
Hey so in reference to your shrink table you had on your blackboard, does it apply to sizes 1/2, 3/4, and 1” EMT ?? + ?
I like the Hat. Rams House!!
I still don’t know how to decide what degree of bend to use for the height of the obstacle/ offset. Is it something you just know? Like I use 10 degrees for my box offsets on a flat surface. Other than that, it’s pretty much trial and error. I’m an apprentice.
Thanks
THANK U VERY MUCH.
I can Wing a saddle over that, it would be a four point saddle bend to allow for strapping to the unistrut but I can use a tape measure just so I can show you what I'm doing ,
I don't know if you're going to cuz I haven't seen the video yet but don't put any marks on your conduit with a sharpie, I've never done any multipliers or anything I just pencil mark my saddle on the conduit and allow for the shrinkage. You got to know your notches though I'm going to make a video because I can show so many shortcuts and tricks, to avoid adding bones to the Bone pile, I can bend conduit, just like the man who taught me, I was the best until I trained a bunch of guys that are out there, bending it, better than Beckham I just went up north to Oakland off the couch and bent 300 ft of half inch conduit without a mistake, every whitch Way and every kind of v
Bend you can imagine, even a shepherd's hook offset
@mrromantimothy have you made the video yet?
@@generissui2737 nope but I'm still bending pipe yesterday I bent a beautiful round saddle over a half inch pipe and offset 90s I even got to do a shepherd's bow 200 ft of half inch pipe and not one mistake.
@@generissui2737 I'm kind of still looking to find a gardner Bender so I can show the difference between a star Bender it's handle position
So do we use rise or height. Ypu only mentioned lenght of the obstruction. These videos piss me off
Hello sir, quick question how come the 22.5 multiplier is 2.5 instead of 2.6? Everything else is the same multiplier when doing offset but only 22.5 is different….
i hear ya. its just easier but not techinacially right.
For the math babies, the "multiplier" is the slope of the angle.
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Why 3" saddle, when the strut only is 1-5/8" thick ??
2" saddle would be perfect, but 3" ... 🤨🤔
Wow people are pretty awful at demonstrating conduit bending on youtube
@@redsoxfox please explain if he is?
Wow what a constructive comment this can really help the channel improve
so weird
Great video. Thankyou