[PATCHED] Helldivers 2: Autocannon vs Chargers (2-3 Same Leg Shot Theory)
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- *UPDATE* PATCHED as of the Escalation of Freedom update on August 6th 2024.
More weapons testing: • [PATCHED] Helldivers 2...
Bonus footage at the end if you really want to face off in a duel against a Bile Titan.
For testing and theory crafting purposes. If you wish to run a Railgun or something else, that's totally fine. This video is just for those that enjoy using the Autocannon and want to learn more about it. As the game came out barely a week ago, some of these tactics may end up changing due to buffs/nerfs that will happen in the future.
**UPDATE** PATCHED as of the Escalation of Freedom update on August 6th 2024. Was fun while it lasted.
About turning animation, I can only hit him during the one where he charges past me, then stops, then turns. Not when he stops right next to me and tries to hit with its head and not when he hits the wall.
@@MrFisherman1323 Yes, I've had varying success with the shorter charge variations or if he interrupts it immediately after so it seems the best bet is the longer turning after a normal charge animation.
All I try I get ricochets idk why, yes I've tried whilst him turning. Hell, I got him stuck and unloaded into legs and joints. Notin', I believe it works. But, It isn't working for me. The only way I've found successful is the splash damage going into his but. However, I have got him to stumble shooting him in the legs. Sadly nothing more or nothing less :(.
That makes sense. I was very unsuccessful then trying to shoot his leg while they were attacking my teammates and it seems to be because it wasn't during the right animation
Yeah, there seems to be a very very specific window of when it works. If it isnt right after a charge the shots bounce off 100%
See, virgin bugs loose one leg and are like "oh no, I die :(".
Meanwhile chad Hulks loose both arms and are still on their way to kick your ass.
You can shoot the arms and legs off of a Hulk and the game considers this Alive according to the achievements
Poor guy is just laying in a field
Wait till you realise brood warrior bugs can chase you headless and without the front legs.
Brood warrior bugs are something else. My squad calls 'em headless wonders for a reason
Bugs are Exoskeleton while humans are Endoskeleton. The Charger is the same having very thick plating but once its penetrated it rapidly bleeds out and won’t heal up like a humans would. (If it could rapidly grow a plating back thatd be terrifying)
fuckin Berserkers threw their chainsaws at me once. They are the most evil of all
Thank you i love the auto cannon and i have been struggling with chargers was thinking maybe it just wasn't good against them but now i know how to deal with them quickly
You could go with grenade launcher too, but would take around 1.5~2 full mags
@@MitholasThor ya I used the grenade launcher for awhile but I have taken a liking to the auto cannon and I'll usually still use the launcher here and there cause it's just so consistent
Auto cannon is a good choice. Rail gun takes chargers out too.
Most of the higher difficulty requires special weapons to deal with them.
Once you’ve unlocked them, the game gets slightly easier.
For the higher difficulties railgun + shield is the way to go. It hurts giving up the explosive weapons but it hurts even more without shield 🥲
My guess for why the front sometimes takes 3 shots:
When you're hitting the back legs, the splash damage from the explosion is also hitting the soft spot.
When you're hitting the front legs, you're only hitting the legs/leg armour.
is it the removal of the legs that kills it or just dammage?
@@audunms4780just damage, and legs are actually a weakspot of the charger ( as soon as you remove armor that is )
armor angle and such does also actually affect damage. So maybe the armor is just thicker up front or slanted in a way that deflects more.
@@sarbe6625yeah the game tips say straight on shots do more damage and that angled shots may even glance off and ricochet
ricocees are a bastard@@sarbe6625
I absolutely love the autocannon, chargers have been the only enemy I've had difficulty using it on, thabks for the guide.
Bile titan: you sure about that? are your sure about that? YOU SURE BOUT THAT?
@@johnodarod9629against titans you can solo stratagem them because they have more value than chargers but it just feels like a waste of resources to throw a stratagem at charger which often doesn't one hit or missed all together
Bile Titan gets nothing less than the 500 kg from my squad😂
How do you even get on the game
the one-time use RPG is actually very good when hiiting its head, try using it as a condition weapon, and carry autoconnon as normal loadout
@@mongolianlambhoof Reset the game often instead of letting the timer run.
@@mongolianlambhoof gotta leave and rejoin, i.e. stop the game on steam and restart. Do not trust in the stupid count down thing. Normally takes my group about 3-5 tries and we're in.
My laser will whoop that azz
So you're telling me I don't need to bring a railgun or a recoiless for these guys anymore...? MORE AUTOCANNON FREEDOM!!!
Railgun doesn't take your backpack slot and can take off armor from the front (even straight kill them with two shots to the legs sometimes)... it's still a far better weapon.
Yeah but then you get another slot for a stratagem since it DOES use the backpack slot. @@Akrymir
@@Nonono7226railgun does not use backpack slot. I use it with a shield, shield does take the backpack.
@@5XXFelipeHe's referring to the autocannon I think. 1 slot for both backpack and support weapon = 1 extra strategem.
@@Sieztt Ah ok, my fault
love this! you all are like a "research lab" for helldivers sharing out tips & tricks from the frontlines
I might be crazy but my autocannon shots to the legs just bounces right off. Any idea why this might be happening?
Try performing the shots in 1v1 situations after a direct charge. I'm still testing another theory that the vulnerability of the leg may be tied to specific animation timings rather than the angle but can't say for sure yet.
@@udonlarge keep us updated, thank you for your service.
@@ivanwong1968 I've done a bit more testing and it seems the animation theory does carry some validity, I've pinned the explanation at the top.
Same issue for me, never worked :/
I think this lends further credence to the hitbox desync theory. The splash gives a higher chance for auto cannon shots to hit the soft spots during the frames where the armor hitboxes are in the wrong place.
I could be completely wrong, but I think some of the inconsistency, especially when aiming for joints, is just armor deflection angle. When aiming at the rear legs and it's facing away from you the armor on the leg almost makes a v shape, so shooting the outside (slope facing away from the charger) part of the leg has a less favorable angle than shooting the part that's inside (slope facing the charger) after it's charged past you. This is also most likely why it's nearly impossible to do anything to it from the front, because when it's facing directly at you so much of that very thick armor is sloping up and to the sides, making it basically impenetrable to anything short of stratagems, rockets, autocannon turrets, or railguns.
It should also be noted that if *any* of the armor (legs, back, side, whatever) has been destroyed, shooting that part with any weapon does a lot of damage to it. So if you miss a shot with a rocket launcher but still hit its side, aim for the exposed side anyways with your primary.
Yeah, that is even in the tooltips. The armor sloping matters quite a lot. For such an arcade-y looking game it has a quite a massive depth to it
@@Aurilion44 the Arrowhead CEO has said "it pays to simulate literally everything" and we keep finding out new and exciting ways in which they really did simulate _everything_
If you can get the drop on them, you can one shot Chargers with the Spear. You need to be facing the front though, and it can be aggro’d. The missile once locked on will remove its head in one shot, killing it outright.
This is my method. I have one shot a bile titan too. If you wait until it charges the "spit attack" it is much easier to hit the head and is a one shot.
I'm more of a Railgun guy because i like to use a drone as a backpack, but it's the same principle. Nice video!
Railgun doesn't ricochet on heavy armor though
Everyone is a "railgun guy", the thing is OP.
They should make it require a battery tac-pack.
@@Pikmin012 Please no. Its the most reliabke thing for chrgers atm.
totally agree, otherwise the lifetime of this game would be short... BORING@@Pikmin012
@@Pikmin012 No the other heavy weapons just need a bit of a buff. If the railgun wasn't a good option then there wouldn't any good reliable options for dealing with tougher enemies.
I've one shot a few bile titans before with the railgun getting the perfect angle into its mouth when it opens it just casually walking. Are you able to test this with the auto cannon?
you can absolutely discombobulate that fuckers jaw with the rail on the first shot
Idk if it was intended or not but autocannon turret is still the best turret for dealing with heavy armored enemies while the autocannon as a support weapon just bounces off most of the armor spots. I wouldn't think an explosive round from a contact explosive would bounce is why I assume it's a bug or unintended feature. I love how much damage it does and that it's ammo cap is insane but for taking up my support and backpack slots, I would like it to deal with heavy armor a little better than bouncing off instead of having a turret do it better.
Turrets a larger cannon...but yea...an He round vs something in AP....armor piercing cannon rounds exist...and being a "cannon" they usually still go boom.
the bullet case flight out from the auto cannon is 3 time bigger than your autocannon ammo, that why :)
Yeah it makes 0 sense for it to just bounce off. Meanwhile the railgun doesn't require a backpack slot and chunks off armor just fine.
Grenades from the launcher will ricochet as well if they hit a target too soon after firing. Both the autocannon and grenade launcher seem to have fuse timers on their projectiles
The handheld Autocannon probably has a lower velocity round so it doesn't break the helldiver's arm
I love the autocannon but can't for the life of me figure out the chargers takedown. no matter what I do where I hit it how many times I can't figure out the leg takedown.
Success isn't based on angles or "just shoot at the leg anytime", but rather specific animation window timings where the leg armor "turns off" (check video description for the other video). If you're trying to get rounds in outside of those animations, they will probably just bounce off. Even then, it isn't a 100% success rate because it is speculated to be a hitbox desync bug rather than intentional. If you fail, wait for the next charge and try again.
Try it in 1v1 situations and wait for the charge where it skids to a stop with no side swipes. Dodge it and swing around to put rounds in the closest leg (usually a rear). You don't have to wait for it to start turning around, just wait till it finishes skidding. Once you get it a few times you'll start understanding the timings.
Got myself the autocannon and KNEW I could use it against Charges, but I didn't know how. Shots just kept pinging off the legs, so I switched back to using the recoilless rifle and going for head shots. Worked decently, but ultimately means I have one slot dedicated purely to chargers. This video is EXACTLY what I needed to see. Gonna be bringing the autocannon on my next deployment now!
Is this still working or did they patch it? Just tried this out and it didnt work as intended
I just wish it was a lil more consistent
I really don't understand this. after over an hour of testing, I have like a 5% success rate
tried waiting for various recovery periods after a charge, different angles, different legs, just bounces 95% of the time. starting to think this might be also tied to specific frame rates or something. was this tested on PC or playstion?
its just a practice thing. i love AC and don't want the Railshield meta crutch, so I've managed to do it pretty reliably to chargers
PS5 and PC are the same. Works on both. Watch video again and read what he’s saying carefully, it’s animation timing
@@xikaryo6735 I have, and it's not 100% of the puzzle. I didn't do one mission and decide "nope doesn't work" hell, watch his other video where he tests every weapon against the animation frames, the window seems to be insanely large, but i cannot get it to replicate.
I just went back for more testing of lowering the maximum fps cap, and it does make a rather large difference. somewhere between 30 and 60 fps, the success rate is nearly perfect. so this is indeed a strat that works for every PS5 user, and anyone with a PC about as weak as the ps5, or people that lower their fps that low for some reason.
went back more and did further testing. I'd need more runs to make a 100% assertion, but I feel I was correct. Using NVIDIA manager to cap the maximum fps to 60 greatly increased the success rate. Lowering it to 30fps nearly made it 100%.. Meaning this strategy works for 100% of PS5 users, anyone with a PC as weak or weaker than a PS5, or anyone who for some reason willingly capped their PC fps to between 30 and 60 fps. So a good amount of physics and hitbox detection happens on the client side according to their fps, in theory.@@xikaryo6735
Any tips for hitting this reliably? I feel i often just get the ricochet even when hitting directly from behind
Try practicing with 1v1 duels right after it charges at you (and not someone else). I tend to notice a higher ricochet chance when it's not aggroed on me or not during the short window of opportunity right after a charge.
With more encounters, the more it feels like there's only a select set of animations/timings that allow the shells to penetrate but I can't be 100% sure on this.
@@udonlarge I noticed that last bit as well. I have yet to hit it unless it charges directly at me. Even a stationary charger looking at someone else. Perhaps there is some counter or punish windows baked into the AI that give better damage output/penetration? Either way I will try this a bit more with 1v1s. Thank you for the input!
Thank you for this. I wasnt even sure the autocannon could kill one of these things. My autocannon shots kept bouncing off.
Oh thank god you found how to kill one with the autocannon. I thought I was doomed to take the recoilless every time one was around
thanks for the tip about the splash damage from the ground, now i know not to do that, and i thought that kinda worked. But now i see i had no idea how to actually use the autocannon.
Thx for the detailed explanation because Elbethium would not explain anything as to why this works and doesn’t. Definitely will be using auto cannon more now altho it seems Expendable rockets would still be useful to do damage to charger attacking a teammate since this only works if they charge you specifically.
Was this patched or something, doesnt seem to work at all (tested on diff 4 with aiming the joints)
Still working as of 1 minute ago.
Success isn't based on angles or "just shoot at the leg anytime", but rather specific animation window timings where the leg armor "turns off" (check video description for the other video). If you're trying to get rounds in outside of those animations, they will probably just bounce off. Even then, it isn't a 100% success rate because it is speculated to be a hitbox desync bug rather than intentional. If you fail, wait for the next charge and try again.
Try it in 1v1 situations and wait for the charge where it skids to a stop with no side swipes. Dodge it and swing around to put rounds in the closest leg (usually a rear). You don't have to wait for it to start turning around, just wait till it stops. Once you get it a few times you'll start understanding the timings.
As an auto cannon main all the way back in Malevolon Creek, this does put a smile on my face. Everyone is so focused on how hood the railgun is thst they forget how good everything else is
Shame the railgun just outclasses all the other AT support weapons
This. Not needing backpack, great armor penetration and multiple shots in one drop make every other option worse.
@@Artuditu123Yeah, a nerf to their shot charge time, reload or damage so it destroys armour but doesn't do much actual damage would be good.
Oh boy this did not age well
Used to usee the Autocannon, then i made the SHARC build, i would actually love for you to test it out
-Shield backpack
-Arc thrower
The Arc thrower has infinite ammo, does pure damage, can break body parts, and absolutely loves to team kill, it can take out a bile titan with 3 shots to the face (insane i know, but i have the footage), me and 2 others with this build took on an entire bug breach on helldive and they didn't make it out of the initial spawn area
Now for the test i would love for you to make, is there a difference between fully charging it or spam shooting it, from what i saw there is no difference and about 70% DPS increase
uh....70% DPS increase is a notable difference
@@krymz1 maybe they mean there is no difference when not fully charging, hence same damage but faster, so dps increase. so charging isn't worth it in their experience
Do you have a good way to kill chargers with the Arc Thrower? I really like the weapon but chargers give me trouble with it especially when there are 3 or 4 around, it immediately becomes "Orbital time" lol
@@krymz1 sorry i ment no damage difference between full charge and half charge, but its almost twice as fast if you do it perfectly
@@DarkZemX if you are two people with ark thrower you can kill him before he gets you in about 30m distance (keep in mind that max range of Arc thower is somewhere between 50-60m, its a bit finicky)
Solo at full range you can take them out after dodging the first charge, the problem is when you have 6 on your ass in helldive
Personally if we are a team of 3 with my buddies we legit just shoot them and dodge out of the way, easily killed 3 in less than 30 seconds, but solo its much harder, so orbital time it is
The thing is at helldive there is so much shit you need to rely on yourself, since the orbital either has longer cooldown or much longer deployment time
As a nice pro tip, the 500kg bomb wont kill you at point blank if your shield is active, it will just break the shield, same for precision orbital strike, so stay close but make sure you dont get hit so your shield is active
Oh one last thing, aim for headshots, they do count with the Ark thrower
Perhaps the backs of the legs are more vulnerable than the front? which is why it seems front legs take more shots
I've unloaded clip after clip into their front legs. So it has to be back first? Then front?
Yes. I've never had first shot success on a non-damaged frontal hit other than an interesting outlier that proved otherwise when 2 of his back legs had already been damaged with 1 shot (cumulative armor % damage maybe). If the front leg has already been damaged with the AC once, you should be able get the 2nd/3rd shot through at any other angle. Edit: If you mean it has to be the back 2 legs being targeted first then no - any leg of your choice should have an equal chance as long as the angle is right and the first shot is from the rear/underside of that particular leg.
You'll see the visual cue of exploding green flesh if the shell gets through, else it's just a ricochet.
Every fucking time I try this it bounces
this will help greatly with the railgun nerf ty for the knowledge
Super helpful! Thank you
a bile titan in my game stepped on a hellbomb (or spit on it) and nuked him self lol. didnt know bile spewers can do the same
This my fifth day, just got the autocannon worth the purchase didn’t know it was that powerful
You can quick kill the bile titan with mouth shots (2 I believe, sometimes got 1. so two might have been a bad shot or damaged enough.) with the auto cannon and rail gun.
The leg appendage can be taken out by AMR/AC, but the platting in the front is heavy armor pen only.
Two railgun shots to the face of a Bile Titan from distance.
One shot right before he spews with mouth open. [Safe on]
Overcharged shot [Safe off] to the face will net a one shot kill.
Railgun best option especially at higher levels.
We need the AR-201L and trident back!
they will be mostlikely coming soon.
All I want is the rumbler...
i see your a man of culture as well. i would also like the sickle to come back too.
@@Crimnox_Cinder Man of culture. LOL love it!
I just want my constitution again :(
Fyi. When facing. Abuoem titan from the front, thos too little mandible things inbetween it's two front legs can be damaged by the AC. The damage is equivalent to shooting the big orange thing at its back but it causes the charger to stumble, making it really useful for running
I don't know if it was a bug but last night the autocannon was having absolutely zero effect on chargers. I would unload an entire mag on one leg and it just kept bouncing off.
Expendable AT to blow off armor on leg, primary weapon to that leg until it dies. Super easy. Autocannon can work too.
I'm sorry, but this shouldn't be necessary. These support weapons need to be able to deal with several chargers, quickly, without worrying about angle of attack, or animations. I don't like the railgun being the solution to every problem. It makes the game boring after awhile.
This trick instantly shot up the autocannon into S-tier in bug missions for me. The only single thing that it can't do is killing Bile titans but my teammates would be running Railgun like 90% of the time anyway so i'd rather just have the autocannon for killing Chargers in 2-3 shots, semi-crowd control tool (still loses out to the Grenade Launcher), and closing bug holes.
Post patch my shot is legit bouncing off his leg with AC? I don't understand
I was only using the autocannon against bots but since I've learned about hitting chargers' legs I've started using it against bugs again.
Back to running the autocannon!
mine not working. Mine usuallyl got reflected. Doesnt matter front or back leg.
Success isn't based on angles or "just shoot at the leg anytime", but rather specific animation window timings where the leg armor "turns off" (check video description for the other video). If you're trying to get rounds in outside of those animations, they will probably just bounce off. Even then, it isn't a 100% success rate because it is speculated to be a hitbox desync bug rather than intentional. If you fail, wait for the next charge and try again.
Try it in 1v1 situations and wait for the charge where it skids to a stop with no side swipes. Dodge it and swing around to put rounds in the closest leg (usually a rear). You don't have to wait for it to start turning around, just wait till it finishes skidding. Once you get it a few times you'll start understanding the timings.
@@udonlarge ill try it today
I noticed that there are sometimes elite versions of certain enemies, could this be the case? Only noticed bile titans and chargers. Chargers have more noticeable tusks on the front when elite, a bile titan elite will take like 12 railgun shots to the face, idk what sets it apart but it’s the theory I’m working with rn because those titans are usually the mission related ones.
I've never felt a noticeable difference visually or gameplay wise between Bile Titans and they usually go down after an oribtial railcannon strike combined with a 110mm eagle so I can't speak on that (and I don't run the Railgun).
As for the Charger variant which is mostly found on lower level kill missions, this theory of animation vulnerability still applies and I've had success using it against them.
I run AC with engineer armor (one that gives you crouch prone/recoil bonus) and just dive the inital charge behind and you can pop the abdomen in like 5 or 6 spammed shots which is very easy with the recoil reduction. I may give this a shot but it might be patched later so I wont crutch on it too hard.
Titan, Orbital Railcannon Strike, Autocannon can shoot in the wound in the back from distance, 2-3 shots. Railcannon Headshots prevent the Titan from puking, shot right before he pukes. Railcannon Autocannon Duo is just great. 2 Railcannon shots in Chargers Leg and any Wapon can finish of.
I can kill from the front, just hit the inside of the front legs from the front, 2-3 times. It'll act as if it's the side of the leg. Done it multiple times.
I tried for hours yesterday try to kill Chargers by shooting the legs but my shots kept bouncing off. It didn’t help that there were like 4 of them and still having to take care of the rest of the swarm.
Success isn't based on angles or "just shoot at the leg anytime", but rather specific animation window timings where the leg armor "turns off" (check video description for the other video). If you're trying to get rounds in outside of those animations, they will probably just bounce off. Even then, it isn't a 100% success rate because it is speculated to be a hitbox desync bug rather than intentional. If you fail, wait for the next charge and try again.
Try it in 1v1 situations and wait for the charge where it skids to a stop with no side swipes. Dodge it and swing around to put rounds in the closest leg (usually a rear). You don't have to wait for it to start turning around, just wait till it stops. Once you get it a few times you'll start understanding the timings.
Deal with the rest of the swarm first before taking your time with this to practice or you'll most likely end up frustrated from the annoyance of the smaller mobs or a bug breach. I usually test on difficulty 7 as there's a balance between mob density and a high chance of finding Chargers.
Yo, the auto cannon is glitched if you go to first person, it cancels the reload animation
Didnt know the bile titan could die from stepping on a bile spewer, good to know!
Im just saying since the auto canon will take your backpack or a friends back pack slot. It should be like the sentry and damage armor. Even if it takes a full 6-8 shots to the face. It should be dooable.
How come when I use it, it doesn't take the armor off. So frustrating
Success isn't based on angles or "just shoot at the leg anytime", but rather specific animation window timings where the leg armor "turns off" (check video description for the other video). If you're trying to get rounds in outside of those animations, they will probably just bounce off. Even then, it isn't a 100% success rate because it is speculated to be a hitbox desync bug rather than intentional. If you fail, wait for the next charge and try again.
Try it in 1v1 situations and wait for the charge where it skids to a stop with no side swipes. Dodge it and swing around to put rounds in the closest leg (usually a rear). You don't have to wait for it to start turning around, just wait till it stops. Once you get it a few times you'll start understanding the timings.
Few days ago before the last two patches, i was able to dive dodge the charges when they were running at me. But in last two days they always and i mean always start drifting at me instantly when i dive or they literaly do almost instantaneous 90 degree turn and hit me. Im not sure whats happening
There's a secret brain bug we don't know about that is learning our ways of democracy and is evolving them to become tofu drivers in space.
the only reasonable assumption@@udonlarge
You can thank Joel for that
How are you supposed to beat bile titans without the railgun or air strikes?
The arc thrower is another option, but you need to be patient. Nice thing is, while you're working on the bile titan you're also chaining your shots to the fodder beneath/near them. That weapon's great for handling multiple things at once.
I think I know what causes this. When it "slides" it causes armor to disappear
Why do all my cannon shots bounce off their legs at all angles?
Success isn't based on angles or "just shoot at the leg anytime", but rather specific animation window timings where the leg armor "turns off" (check video description for the other video). If you're trying to get rounds in outside of those animations, they will probably just bounce off. Even then, it isn't a 100% success rate because it is speculated to be a hitbox desync bug rather than intentional. If you fail, wait for the next charge and try again.
Try it in 1v1 situations and wait for the charge where it skids to a stop with no side swipes. Dodge it and swing around to put rounds in the closest leg (usually a rear). You don't have to wait for it to start turning around, just wait till it stops. Once you get it a few times you'll start understanding the timings.
Whenever the cannon shoots the charger in its ass it reminds of the fish that got bit by the Alaskan bull worm from spongebob always makes me laugh 😂😂
Pro tip: When you get under a bike titan just aim for the ass and but it on full auto. The recoil can't go anywhere but further up the underbody.
I usually use the Railgun and nail 2 or 3 shots into its front leg of choice. Or EAT if you hit right. But knowing I can with this to helps since I enjoy the auto cannon more then those
Thank you !
Nice info, we have a dedicated member in our squad on auto cannon for bug nest and spore purposes, I think he’ll have an easier time dealing with big chonker now
so first shot has to be at the back of the leg for it to work?
From my experience yeah it has to be at the back or close to unless the leg was already damaged in which case any angle should get through.
i was looking for this ❤
Has anyone tried to do the same with Anti Material Rifle? I can't test it because of servers...
Just tested, it works the same way. The issue with AMR is it has less utility, as it can't close nests, but it allows you to have a backpack.
AC works best with buddy-loader, if you can get a friend to assist
keep in mind there are bigger variants of charger with more armor that may take more shots
Don't even bother trying to do this reliably honestly. Just too inconsistent, though kinda neat that there is some kind of tiny window where it can two shot charger legs. Right now the only really reliable support weapons for heavy armor are EATs and the Railgun. Really wanted to like the AC since the solo reload isn't terribly long, but it just can't deal with heavy armor. The description even says it is effective against "Light Armor". Honestly it is absurd that the only "true" RELIABLE heavy armor pen weapons in the game are the EAT and the railgun. One of them isn't even really a true support weapon since it is single-use and non restockable with more ammo. I love EATs, but they simply are more of an emergency use weapon.
For me I think the Autocannon is best against the Bots and the Railgun is best for them damn bugs. The autocannos just is so usefull because it stops the bots from shooting even if is just hits them lightly. Bugs just need the Railgun to get loose some heads and legs.
Very interesting but i gotta ask: why auto cannon? Railgun does the same job and allows you a backpack
I have nothing against the Railgun or any loadout players want to bring, I just like the Autocannon and found out I could do stuff like this so I made the video for others if they decided to bring in the AC.
I like the recoiless too much for charger, one shot to the leg and then you kill it by stepping on his toes
Then wtf does the description say "light armour" so annoyin
How the hell does it not ricochet off? Every time I shoot at the front legs in particular the shot just rebounds away. No matter how straight on I am to the target.
gotta shoot it in the backside of the leg not the frontside i think
@@KifF2603 Yeah, thats what I thought but he gets a bunch of head on shots to the front of the legs in the video which is why I am confused
The first shot has to be from the back to damage the leg. The 2nd/3rd shot should go through at any angle, even from the front. You'll see green flesh exploding on the leg if the first shot gets through.
@@udonlarge idk man, seems like im getting old... I can't get it right as you do in the video so easily... my bullets almost always riccochet so I just get back to his Ass and do it that way... using a lot of bullets in the process too...
Feet just dont work for me, no matter if hes turned around there is still his Armor in the back too... idk man
@@KifF2603 My personal preference is performing this tactic after direct charges in 1v1s as my rate of success seems much higher in those situations. It's definitely a niche tactic that not everyone will favor so the unarmored portion of the butt is still a decent choice, it just requires a few more rounds.
Once buffs/nerfs come in the next wave of updates I'm sure there will be more viable options to dealing with chargers so this is more of just my fun way of capitalizing on the versatility of the Autocannon for now.
lmao stepping on a Bile spewer can damage Titan ?
Ive seen Charge sending other bug across the screen but not this
A Titan that followed me, stepped on an old hellbomb. One problem solved.
What we REALLY need is a titan animation to wiggle it's leg afterwards to shake the bile spewer bit off.
the glowing abdomen was a lie???
how could they do this to me
That still works fine aswell. It's just more for if you have to use your small weapons or something like a machinegun. And it will take longer. It just turns out that taking a leg off of something that mostly just runs at you and is super heavy is a great way to get it to stop moving.
@@sarbe6625It doesn't work fine? You'll run your entire team out of ammo almost guaranteed trying that.
Also it's the same for the bile spewers and chargers. Their abdomens aren't their weak spots.
@@mjay6245 comprehensive reading is an important skill. I suggest you work on it.
Idk if this got patched but I can’t to that. My shots bounce off
I've been having extreme difficulty in the last few days. I believe server lag is a large component for successful hits. Lately Chargers have been ice skating after charges...
Anyone try headshot make it stun every time headshot? Does it worth?
With rail gun
Why waste ammo like that instead of just shooting it twice in a leg?
@@SanityPotion776 i didn't say recommend to use headshot for charger... I said has s anyone tried? I know 2 shot leg front or back....
Charger is on ice, charge animation never appear...
One recoiless in the leg or side then half a mag of a breaker in the newly exposed meat=done
Thats my way 🤷🏻♂️
should use EATs instead of recoilless
This is the R&D department. Research and Democracy
oh boy, they gave Dum Dum a supply backpack. They have to nerf everything don't they
The only weapon that takes down bile titans reliably is thw railgun, and therefore its still the best
wonder how many shots it would take from an anti-material rifle
About 3 shots if you hit it right, I have an example in the other video listed in the description if you want to check that out.
I saw it right after. Thank you.@@udonlarge
They did the autocannon so dirty when it should be armor penetrating
It looks like a 20mm or similar, no fuckin reason it shouldn't have better AP capabilities
That would be a disaster balance wise. The autocannon is already one of the best guns in the game; giving it brute force armor penetration would make it a complete must-pick for every player on every mission. Makes for a very boring meta with no variation in the support weapon or backpack slots.
@@SgtAwesome97Yeah auto cannon should definitely have high penetration but for balance purposes I guess. Tanks fire bigger rounds irl and it could be bounced.
@@tuugestein96 so like the breaker already is right now, a must pick boring meta?
@@tuugestein96 son like the railgun since it destroys armored enemies and a few shots even 1 shotting hulks and bile titans?
Stop bootlicking seek help, the fact you can't see an issue that low level players have NO steady way to deal with armor is crazy
I really wish the shield backpack wasn’t so meta, so I could actually use weapons like these 😢
Me when i see a charger: SPAM THE ROUNDS ON ANY PART OF THE BODY
Bile titan aim for mouth when it roars. Use eagle rocket barrage, or EAT-17. Doesn't take a backpack slot and allows you more flexibility with support weapons. For chargers use about the same thing. Most of the orbitals are almost useless and tend to kill team mates more than enemies. Rail gun is super good. Also allows you to reload on the run, and it will shoot right through it's frontal carapace. Auto cannon is better served for clearing medium targets than wasting time on larger ones.
Yeah, I recently saw lots of autocanon players over railgun
Wish there were a few more weapons that could pierce armour.
ive noticed the impact grenades can also kill chargers with 2 or 3 throws im not sure consistency of that method
Maybe with well-placed throws but I've hit them with all 4 of my nades+ shotgun hits and they don't die
yeah its seems to act inconsistent@@nunyab1zn3ss2
@@nunyab1zn3ss2if you get the explosion back under their belly you can kill them but they have to be already hurt.
Okay what about bile titans now?
With railgun, can do same estrategy?
Yes, but you don't have to aim for the back with the Railgun - any angle will do. Most people do 2 shots to the front of the same leg to shred the plate then finish it off with a mag dump from your normal weapon.
Two weeks later and it takes 15 shots to the back leg to kill a charger so ya thanks developers game is now a running simulator avoiding fights
Did they fix armor?
This game just keeps finding ways to be cool af.
While a auto cannon is nice and all, railgun is better choice since you can dispose chargers safetly from range before advancing quicker even before it starts charging.
Especially when a turret is in it's vicinity the charger ignores everything and straight up launches itself upon turrets.
But autocannon rocks in crowd control and bug closing so much. Definitely a railgun plus autocannon side by side will make a squar unstoppable.
This aged like milk
@@archardor3392 railgun on unsafe can still take out a charger from afar since it you can quickly strip Armor off and kill it.