Digitakt II New Features // My Beats are even MORE Techno now
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- Digitakt II New Features // My Beats are even MORE Techno now
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CONTENT OF THE VIDEO
0:00 Hello // The Digitakt 2
0:20 Rapid Fire // Digitakt 2 new standout features
2:55 Thoughts about the OG Digitakt (still)
3:39 Ways of supporting this channel
4:21 How the Digitakt 2 is already shaping my music
4:53 Exploring the euclidean sequencer
6:54 Real talk about the Dgitakt’s sequencer
7:56 Exploring machines
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14:33 Thank you // See you soon
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I wound up getting the polyend tracker plus instead , not so much because of the 200 price difference, but because of the synth engines and the new perc drum synth engine.
I want my music to sound more lush and lively. I don't think digitakt 2 can give me that..🤷♂️😂🙈 hope I don't regret it the. No dought the d2 does seem like a well thought out beast as well.
Such a colourful dress attire that inspires ...brings energy and sparkle ... thanks for another detailed along with incisive analysis of product ... cheers! ...
My pleasure as always ! :-)
The review we've been waiting for!
My guy! Continue the convo on discord!
discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
i need this thing looks so much fun
It’s fkn fun - if you wanna discuss more about it hit up the community discord 😊
discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
I remember that Waldorf Blofeld had a comb filter. Elektroni should keep adding more crazy filter types like some of the ones in Serum.
I gotta look further into it - the comments section + peeps in my Discord server have taught me a lot already based on this video- you’re invited! discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Hi Liam :)
Great video.
Question for you as a previous OG OP-1 owner. I'am considering selling my OP-1 field to finance a digitakt 2 and buy a second hand OG op-1 (I sold digitakt 1 after 6 years even tho I loved it, was bored with the limitations of sample pool).
Indeed, I may not need that much all the extra features and the stereo goodness of the field, digitakt 2 being in my opinion objectively better for track construction and sample manipulation. Do you think it can be a good move if I am planning to sample OG op-1 tapes into the digitakt 2 ? Or downgrading from field to OG would be too much of a step back ? In this case, I would see oG OP-1 as the "chaos machine" to feed digitakt 2.
Also did you find that OG OP-1 still stand on it's own for it's Lofi sound ? I find that on every video of OG op-1 against field I always find the OG to have quite a beautiful character. Even in my own practice, I love what I am able to do with the field, but it sounds good like a typical DAW in my opinion.
Thanks in advance :)
Best place to ask these soerts of questions is on my DIscord ! There's tons of 🧠 in there that can help with perspective ! discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Hey Liam, can you test something for me using the Perform Kit mode? Can you create a song with several patterns and see if you can record automation as the patterns play through without the parameters jumping to the saved values on each pattern change. Does it result in smooth automation being recorded across multiple patterns? Thanks!
Something to consider exploring in a future video !
Still have to figure out the greatness / limitations of the kit function. Something to discuss in my Discord as well if you'd like :-)
discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
@@LiamKillenno offence, but I was looking for some incite from a fellow Elektron user, someone who already has the box, not an advert to subscribe to your future videos or to join your discord channel.
Can it do karplus strong with the comb filter? The filters supposedly have key tracking, so as long as its tuned correctly I feel like it should work.
I’d have to look further into that - thx for this and would love to have an extra 🧠 in the discord to continue the discussion!
Here it is: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
The main criticism I've seen on the Digitakt 2 is the lack of a full sample slicer functionality. I'm hoping it's something they can add in a future update, though.
I'm sure they will :-)
Really like the new features, as for the old Digitakt it’s never been a problem the amount of storage etc… I treated the Digitakt as a drum computer what is was always tended to be, the Digitakt 2 is more of a full on sampler, a nice addition would be to what you find on MPCs, is the function for creating instrument presets from hardware, this is done by sending out midi notes to different octaves C or G etc… to record back to the MPCs automatically, so time stretching is less noticeable, when played across a range of octaves.
I think we will see some of the new features on the old Digitakt, probably 128 steps across all their devices, to program change between devices smoothly , we also might see the chorus being added.
We'll see where it goes - also a discussion for the old discord: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Thanks for the review. Gonna pair nicely with my syntakt.
Absolutely ! I’m thinking of trying mine with the TR-8S soon enough.
Come discuss it in my Discord! 😊
discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Does this make the Torso T1 redundant in this case? What're your thoughts?
Def a different approach I think the T1 is more hands on / better for performance, based on what I’ve seen - if you want, come discuss it in the discord!
discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
I thought the idea you shared at the start about doubling the sounds of tracks 1 to 8 onto tracks 9 to 16 was completely brilliant. When considering stacking just 2 notes for the same sound it just seems to me like it'd be easy enough to micro manage for this technique to be viable/comfortable. Also, now nothing stops you from being super liberal using small timing offsets to simulate keyboard playing to some degree using the same idea you suggested (using the same sound on 2 separate tracks). As a Digitakt/Digitone owner I chose to integrate these machines with the iPad Pro M2 11" instead to really have much more control over which limitations I choose to impose on my "music making pipeline". In that context I can't really see myself justifying a Digitakt 2 for now (not that I'm completely against the idea!). It also looks like controlling external CC doesn't offer any sort of NRPN functionality and I still find that a limit of 16 CC controls per dedicated MIDI track is way under the threshold of where it would need to be to really hit that "sweet spot" of external control flexibility. I believe that sweet spot would be at about 64 CC parameters per MIDI track and if that requires a USB connection to be functional, then it should DEFINITELY be an option.
In 2024 it really seems ridiculous that we're still controlling CC data with a resolution of 128 in the overwhelming majority of cases. I get that p-locking simply by its nature implies good compatibility with handling low resolution MIDI CC data but as soon as the idea of offering LFOs to modulate external CC data gets thrown into the mix, that argument crumbles really quick. If Elektron Machines still don't solve that problem by offering features that heavily encourage 3rd party app developers and hardware manufacturers to ensure "high resolution MIDI" compatibility as a selling point, then there isn't really much of a significant technological progress with these machines. Once you get past the honeymoon phase of the new "candy" features of the DT2 like the Chorus, 8 bars, stereo sampling/playback, master overdrive, flexible side chaining and workflow optimizations, the realization that nothing about these features is actually ground breaking is inevitable. With that said if I didn't own any Elektron machines at this point I would literally run to go and buy the DT2 though. As a DT user the DT2 for now basically alleviates/addresses previous excessive (and arguably arbitrary) limitations but aside from single cycle waveform samples tricks it is still largely dependent on external sound generators to find its relevance and that tends to make the device feel like it's not particularly flexible to use even though it's still great. Ultimately it still feels like we're more or less being maintained in a state of scarcity when it comes to access to features just so that a maximum amount of cash can be "extracted" out of us. It's precisely for this reason that I chose the iPad Pro route instead in the context of expanding my setup while maintaining the same form factor: it addresses a significant portion of the DT/DN shortcomings while allowing the Elektron sequencer to come into play, which in turn enables users to do things that would otherwise be inaccessible or extremely tedious to accomplish.
Regardless, cheers from Montreal also and congrats on your beautiful DT2 :D
The effort put into this comment! Thanks for your time + effort 🙏
Stereo samples make it a standalone sampler. I'd probably sample lush strings in stereo to DT or something like that.
That would be something i've never seen ! Hey also - if you're interested, here's an invite to my Discord - community vibes where we talk about synths and electronic music all day: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
About other gear that does multiple layers of Euclidean per track: the Eurorack sequencer Acid Rain Constellation has 8 trigger channels, each with 8 layers of Euclidean, and each layer can have ratchets, repeats and probability, for really varied and intricate patterns. Not a fair comparison obviously but just FYI
Ok that's complex - I guess i've only used the most basic of basic euclidean sequencers !
We can use a brain like you over in the Discord though: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Thank you for the test ! Great video. Thank you 🙏 😊
❤️ Thanks Andre!
All of these gadgets (SP 404, MPC One, Maschine, Elektron) have +'s and -'s so it really DOES come down to what it FUN and effective for YOU and the type of music you want to make. I have a TON of gear and I'm trying to figure out what works BEST for me. Once I do, I'll sell some. But anything like the DT2 which yields more gets a try.
Absolutely ! Thew fun factor is what's most important !!
But is it interesting using them together in sound design or better to do the upgrade.
It really depends on how you’re using it. I personally think you should bring this energy to my Discord to get a discussion going- here’s the invite: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Tackydagt
We could use your synthy ense of humour over in the Discord lol: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
If you had just one, m8, sp404mk2 or digi2?
Digi2 all the way - come talk about it in my Discord 😏 discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Oh hey Liam. Miss u man❤❤❤❤
Come say hi in my Discord :-)
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This or the sp404 if you had to choose one and why?
I’m gonna say this and a discussion to bring to the discord for sure- here’s an invite: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Can you select and edit more than one step simultaneously??
Ummm I’m actually not sure about that with the Digitakt II I haven’t tried yet
How would using your Oxi One & MPC One compare to this? For a bit more it seems like a better buy(used MPC ONE in this case) than the Digitakt 2. That's what I'm trying to decide
I think it depends on genre- if you’re into using very very precise and creative sequencers, Digitakt / Oxi one is just the way to go IMO.
Would love to keep the convo going on my Discord though 😊 discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
It also has dedicated L and R outputs.
good addition ! We could use sharp peeps like you over in the Discord - here's an invite incase you're not already a member: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Liam! Techno is calling you! Resist no longer.
No resistance!
Ps my Discord is calling you- here’s an invite: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
To Elektron's credit, they have done a fairly good job of issuing updates for discontinued products.
Oh really? That’s good
In anyone’s opinion, what would be the best way to upgrade a Digitakt to a Digitakt 2 ?
I'm planning to get the 2, never had the og , although i did have the rytm a long tine ago.. wish me luck.. 😂🙈
😅
Amazing machine, Can't wait to get mine! 😭
Exciting!!! Once you get it, bring the discussion of what you think over to my discord! discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Maaaaaaannnnn I can not rid myself of the Digitakt curiosity to get down with some IDM/Lofi house/melodic techno.... But I gotta save for the Push 3. I wanna try ooooooonnnnneeeee so baaaaaaad though. Maybe I should try the DT 1 since the used market might be favorable.
Yeah now might be the time and it's pretty much like the exact same type of workflow - we can talk about it in my Discord if you'd like :-)
discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
I don't understand how it's 2024 and a $1000 sampler releases without manual slicing :(
I’m sure it was rushed or something - they’ll def hit us with an update - come vent about it over on my discord lol discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
well, i never in my life needed slicing and probably will never need, so i am completely ok with that .. there is plethora of genres where sample
loops are not used at all … so i guess Elektron priorizes those styles when deciding which features to implement
I'd bet my Octatrack that manual slicing gets added to the DT2 at some point
They probably planned the omission to drop an update for a revenue bump between release schedules.
It's not an essential feature for everybody.
This vs MPC one if you could only choose one?
The mpc is more a powerhouse for full songs.. think about it... more sounds more effects better controls. And way cheaper.
This! But mostly because I’m really into sequencing / sequencer based electronic music. A discussion to bring to the Discord though 😊 discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
It’s more of a DAW in a box
@@LiamKillen yeah i feel you about that point!
All hail comb filter
I gotta explore it more for sure - PS you might feel right at home in my Discord community - here's an invite link: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Sampling in Mono?
say wha ? You can if you want - stereo as well.
@@LiamKillen As far as I know, this is not possible, you can only send the mono samples to the DT via the computer, I have sent the sampler back.🤷🏼♂️
no arpegatior?
Unfortunately not- you can vent about it in my discord if you’d like: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Why did you use the headphones out?
It’s the cables I had available at the time
I still miss an arpeggiator 🤔
Yeah that’s more of a Digitone thing- come talk about it in my Discord hehe: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
@@LiamKillen Let's agree to disagree on this 😉
I can’t fathom a $1k sampler that doesn’t have chromatic polyphony. Even the TE KO ii has that! And it still has a 4 note limit on midi? Whhhhhy? I’m done hoping for better Elektron gear.
Come vent in the discord about it! Lol
discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
I’m sure they’ll hit us up with some updates
So they can still upsell you their other boxes so that it will cost you at least $2000 for what you really want... Probably more.
DAWs all the way ...
Well it is marketed as a drum computer and has 16 voices.
Its fine, for like 300€. I would love one but this is just bizarre
@@fleetadmiralsidiqi1941 I work on a computer all day. The LAST thing I want to do is sit in front of a DAW when I'm being creative at night.
Wait, what.. NO CHOPPING?
There is chopping I have to remove that part of the video when I can - there’s still a grid mode.
Haha.. everyone of Liam’s answers is “come to the Discord”. 😄
Yup! I want to build a community cuz I realize it’s SOOOO much better for spreading correct / diverse knowledge- here’s your invite: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
@@LiamKillen Building a community is ALWAYS a win!
Polyend is typing...
😂 you should bring this type of humour over to the discord! discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Liam, you mention the Digitakt OG having the edge on ability to slice. I'm nearly positive (still awaiting delivery of my DT2) that the same function is in the Digitakt 2, the name of the machine has just been changed to "Grid". I'd bet you a loonie that this is because the name "Slice" will be repurposed for an actual MPC/Octatrack-style slicing machine in the near future.
Also, because I feel the need to comment this on every video that mentioned the "new effects", currently there is 1 new effect added, the chorus, and other ways of modifying the character like Bitrate and Sample reduction have been reclassified as effects, as opposed to being in the Machine/Source settings before.
Omg you’re right! There’s no randomize function though from what I’m seeing.
We need a brain like yours over in the discord! discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
As for new FX there’s also a master overdrive (same as Digitone I think) which is just my FAV
@@LiamKillen oh, like the “crate random locks”? Hmm.
I’ll peep the discord!
@@robertgarvansnyder4665 According to the DT2 Manual, create random locks is still a thing.
Except for no sample slicing
I have no doubt they’ll be coming with an update - they were prob rushed to release or something. It’s always like that these days.
If you wanna keep the discussion going hit up my community discord!
discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
@@LiamKillen I hope so… I ordered one 😅😅
yooo... that vape is rad looking.
It’s CBD 😊
you mean, all of the things that were supposed to be there in the mk 1 - stereo sampling, time stretching without acrobatics, more RAM than Commodore 64, 16 tracks to allign with 16 MIDI outputs. None of these features would kill Elektron when they released DT MK1, just chose not to. And how about poly seq? Also, this is Analogue Rytm Eucledean - which is fine, I like they mashed up a lots of random features from other boxes here.
They got us all by the gonads
no manual slicing, no internal battery, no midi arp, no polyphony, no looper... they did not listen, nice try influencer. im waiting for digitakt 7
They listened to many other requests but I mean if you just wanna focus on the negatives 🤷♂️
Also, updates exist! I’m with you on the sample chopping.
Buy n mpc … ?
No looper? Learn to use it and it becomes a looper.
Internal battery? Why? To add weight and add a feature that 90% of people don’t give a fuck about.
Midi arp? Sure, would be nice. Manual slicing? Eh, maybe useful. Polyphony? It is a DRUM machine that supports sampling itself. Takes seconds to sample chords.
What does a DTII do for over $1000 that an MPC Live II won’t?
What does it do that an MPC 1000 from decades ago running JJOS won’t?
What does the DTII do that a 404 mkII can’t at half the price?
And those devices have velocity sensitive pads, equal or better screens, usb compliant audio so they can have significantly more I/O, and don’t require a connection to a laptop or desktop to get samples in to them…
My Gotharman’s SpazeDrum costs less than a DTII, SYNTHESIZES drums, could have 4 audio out ports added, works with samples, and works with thumb drives (32 GB of storage)…
If this had been the OG Digitakt 7 years ago, it would have been competitive. Now?
I can get a used MPC one for half the price and double the features…
Quick question… how do you chop samples on it?
Elektron sequencer, UI.
Short answer is that the sequencer precision is just way more intuitive than anything from Akai - if you'd like to discuss further join the Discord community - would love to get a community discussion going about this : discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
they're all musical instruments, stop judging in terms of computing power
@@LiamKillen
"Intuitive" is subjective and by my account, less intuitive than a MPC.
I have Both, Digitakt is a live performance hands-on performance machine. It can do things the MPC cannot do for live real time tweaking. There is a reason people use Elektron, I didn't for a long time until 6 months ago, bought me a Digitakt and I was blown away that I purchased the Digitone and Analog heat MK2. MPC is great machine, Elektron machines don't freeze or stutter or lagg ever during crucial live performance sets.
I’m looking forward to when storage and memory limitations just aren’t a thing. I can see ppl in future reading about this like
“A device back then with 400mb of memory/30 mins of audio”
“When was this, 1980s?”
“2024”
“Pardon me?”
😂 you speak truth. PS- you’d get along with my discord crowd! Here’s an invite: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
In the 80s it was 16kb of memory in a box the size of a PlayStation.
3:14 dude what are you talking about? i don’t even own a DT2 yet, and i know that it has the same slice machine with the same “create random locks” function. 🤦🏼♀️ i’m tired of y’all geartubers that have no idea what y’all be talking about…
Hmm maybe I missed it- but I didn’t see the randomized sampling like on the OG DT - a discussion to bring to the discord for sure though cuz I’m here to learn too:
discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
@@LiamKillen it’s in the manual lol, also stop pushing your discord in every comment jesus
Shame it’s so expensive great synth but I’ll pass
It ain’t cheap you’re right
So you say digitakt 2 versatile , all I hear on you tube is techno or house . Versatile.. can it play a country western song or rock, heavy metal? Why not ? So why doesn't any post these genres on you tube ? Why not ..
I would say versatile within the confines of electronic music, of which there are like a hundred sub genres by now haha.