Ranking EVERY Exotic Class Item in Destiny 2 (Hunter Edition)

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  • @MacticsG1
    @MacticsG1  Před 8 dny +251

    To anyone who disagrees with any of my rankings...
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    you are wrong lol
    in all seriousness though, these types of videos always have a bunch of nasty comments, lets try and be a little more civil than that. if i called something bad that you like, remember that im just 1 guy on the internet and am certainly not the arbiter of what you are/arent allowed to use
    enjoy :)

    • @PickleLife05
      @PickleLife05 Před 8 dny +1

      The Traveler gonna bless me with all these rolls, I can feel it 🙏

    • @jaheimblake-francis1602
      @jaheimblake-francis1602 Před 8 dny +2

      Would you say spirit of the star eater and spirit of renewal is good?

    • @jvee6288
      @jvee6288 Před 8 dny +9

      Assassin’s/Liar frees up an aspect slot so you can run threaded specter for an extra source of damage while still having invisibility on powered melee kills, or every other kill

    • @fallhayv8470
      @fallhayv8470 Před 8 dny +6

      You said ascension is bad
      no, YOU are wrong
      i love my helicopter move
      Tbh it feels like Mac is so married to the combination blow prismatic that it completely skews his perspective on other possible builds
      Don't get be wrong, its good, but it is also a snoozefest, you are basically playing an arc hunter all over again. Also as strong as it is, i would not bring a full melee build into a GM
      Threaded spike is cool with caliban too, ye know
      but if I get a HOIL i'd run it with stasis melee to deal with 2 different champs at will

    • @skyking3210
      @skyking3210 Před 8 dny +1

      Verity buffs Grapple I was able to get double damage with Cali/Verity class item tested on Carl, radiant also buffs this. I hit five red bars with The Call sidearm and one hit grapple attack triggering Caliban's

  • @rightful4973
    @rightful4973 Před 8 dny +106

    Take a shot every time Mactics pulls up the horse drawing💀

  • @crushavg
    @crushavg Před 8 dny +163

    I thought this was supposed to be Hunter Edition, not Combination Blow Edition

    • @elimicheal8927
      @elimicheal8927 Před 7 dny +28

      The majority of the rankings is “Is this good with stylish executioner and combination blow?” Lol

    • @urticantspoon9960
      @urticantspoon9960 Před 7 dny +2

      Fair enough, but what combination of perks do you think would be good for threaded spike, and withering blades? (Fan knives are kinda….there, but don’t really have as much utility as the other three melees. Same for grenades, he mentions dark grenades have a lot more utility than light grenades, with duskfield providing frost armor stacks when paired with renewal, and grapple melee literally being the best damage strategy in the game when paired with the navigator exotic trace rifle and synthoceps (has the highest damage in the game, search warlords ruin titan speedrun for context) comparing the dark grenades to swarm grenade and magnetic grenade…neither are really strong, and the arc grenade isn’t strong either, when compared to the utility of the dark grenades.) radiant dodge is something he didn’t bring up, since we don’t really need radiant dodge, as we have facet of dawn and radiant orbs of power this episode. Now, dragon’s shadow plus sixth coyote plus facet of command with withering blades/gambler’s dodge and a chill clip weapon is slept on, as the highest damage set up in the game before final shape dropped was a dragon’s shadow whisper of impetus build on stasis hunter with the fourth Housman, mountaintop and edge transit, and that was without the enhanced perks, and that build was the highest dps in the game to a boss (dps testing was done on Templar from Vault of Glass). That combination (class item of sixth coyote plus dragons shadow) plus facet of command(reload all weapons upon freezing a target) plus golden gun super plus withering blades, a chill clip special GL, fourth horseman and edge transit, is probably very strong for boss damage on enemies like war priest, Templar and others. Celestial still hunt prismatic marksman vs whisper of the worm on Taken King is still up for debate as far as I know in terms of what’s better for damage. Mactics does say at the end of his video that this ranking is based on first impressions, so that’s the most obviously strong stuff, and I can understand why he picked syntho call an and liar caliban. For low tier to high tier end game content, if a hunter wants to run in and punch, those are the best combinations, and he’s been remaking the same assassins cowl/liars handshake build for almost two years. He’s got that run in and melee style for Hunter down really well. The hang back and wait for dps style isn’t as popular, but means you’re more useful to your team for dps. Hunter’s main role in Destiny at the moment, is ad clear and dps. It is possible to make a support hunter with tether but it’s not how Hunter is built to play. Warlocks are much more the support/ad clear style, given their only option for good dps is strand or solar. Then you’ve got Titan whose play style leans more into ad clear and defense and less into everything else. Problem is, there isn’t much reason for good defense, so most titans re utilize their kit for ad clear and crowd control and survivability, their damage? They’ve got thundercrash and strand titan grapple melee with syntho for damage. There’s a reason Titan meta was strand titan for a whole year and a half, they didn’t have much else after the bonk hammer nerf. Now idk about prismatic Titan, or prismatic warlock, or if they’re super useful, I have a feeling that yes they are, and titans actually have a good dps option with the throwing axes, since that’s a dps super (cast it, can use instant, and switch to weapons for damage phase.) Titan utility is probably really strong, which leaves warlocks…and idk about warlocks, but the strand super is their best for dps last I remembered, but song of flame seems to have options.

    • @kreia187
      @kreia187 Před 6 dny +4

      problem is that that's kinda where prismatic hunter ends. There's not a lot of other decently viable things you can do with it.

    • @filipgasic2642
      @filipgasic2642 Před 5 dny +1

      Is combination blow a hunter melee? There's your answer

    • @ValJCI
      @ValJCI Před 5 dny

      Because if you’re not using it rn you’re kinda throwing

  • @middy2803
    @middy2803 Před 8 dny +350

    Dude you are tripping about assassins cowl + liars. Throw on threaded spector over stylish executioner and the build slaps.

    • @zenonichan7307
      @zenonichan7307 Před 8 dny +17

      Thank you

    • @smartyuno
      @smartyuno Před 8 dny +113

      Stylish gives a 150% melee damage bonus if you’re invisible and leave invis by punching, so you really don’t want to take it off.

    • @lemmingskmt
      @lemmingskmt Před 8 dny +5

      ​@@smartyunoexactly

    • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
      @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Před 8 dny +13

      @@smartyunoHonestly that sounds like something that should be innate to coming out of stealth and not to do with the aspect itself.

    • @bcityy
      @bcityy Před 8 dny +4

      @@smartyuno if it was needed, liars build just doesnt need that 150% for where it excels

  • @garrettwaters1726
    @garrettwaters1726 Před 8 dny +53

    Fellow hunters, anyone else notice a change to fan of knives trajectory that dropped with the expansion? I used that melee non-stop last season so my muscle memory is pretty good with it and as soon as I played the first campaign mission I realized something must’ve changed. It now sends your middle knife above your crosshair, kinda where the very top of your handcannon hip fire reticle circle is. I am almost certain the middle knife went dead center last season. I feel like I might be crazy so if anyone else has noticed this let me know lol

    • @bakbanb
      @bakbanb Před 7 dny +6

      It must be bugged because I've used it every season since arrivals but no one has said anything

    • @josbot5070
      @josbot5070 Před 7 dny +5

      I saw a reddit about this same thing so you are not the only one. I have not tried it though.

    • @alexanderspassov4759
      @alexanderspassov4759 Před 7 dny +12

      Yeah its been whiffing for me a lot where it otherwise wouldnt have before.

    • @Luckydave123
      @Luckydave123 Před 7 dny +1

      Yeah its different now

    • @TheOneTrueShooter
      @TheOneTrueShooter Před 7 dny +3

      Yeah I feel like I can never land them now idk what they changed

  • @ZXaria
    @ZXaria Před 8 dny +17

    Dragon's Coyote is so damn fun. Being able to constantly use Ascension, which reloads all your guns and gives you a massive handling boost, is just awesome. Plus, you'll never fail a jumping puzzle since you have FIVE JUMPS, as well as a Grapple if you so choose.

    • @stoppardstop
      @stoppardstop Před 2 dny

      Just got that cloak and love it

    • @gyrozeppeli8303
      @gyrozeppeli8303 Před dnem

      Hes def tripping, like if ur doing a dmg rotation with no autoloading weapons what you gonna do then lmaoo
      Its genuinely really strong and I'm surprised he doesn't understand that

  • @ItzJustAngle
    @ItzJustAngle Před 8 dny +26

    I knew what drawing you were talking about before you even showed it 😂

  • @jameswilles7814
    @jameswilles7814 Před 8 dny +43

    When you're talking about gyrfalcon for the first time and mention Facet of Bravery, that was a fragment on void before gyrfalcon was an exotic, called Echo of Instability. People just didn't use it when void 3.0 came out because we had artifact mods that gave volitile rounds even easier.

    • @wolfgamer8770
      @wolfgamer8770 Před 7 dny +6

      Not to mention hunters didn't have any exotics that buffed void grenades back then. You pretty much needed collective obligation in order to mimic what you can do on hunter today.

    • @BardianAngel
      @BardianAngel Před dnem

      Yeah, that's what i'm thinking. Getting volatile rounds on grenade kill vs getting volatile rounds every time you proc stylish exectuioner. One of those has WAY more uptime than the other.

  • @woomyboy98
    @woomyboy98 Před 8 dny +21

    Foe tracer + gyrfalcon is actually an insanely good combo. Ive been running grapple melee + smoke bomb with the call, graviton lance, edge transit but depending on the situation other void guns can be swapped in. Basically you look around for an orange bar (or higher), throw your smoke bomb and then kill all the other ads with graviton. The multiple ticks from smoke bomb reproc foetracer enough for those 10 seconds to feel like forever. For champs you just stun, throw smoke bomb, spam edge transit to kill before the stun ends. I use threader specter + stylish since i pretty much have all my abilities up whenever I want. Mix in some grapples to help get your dodge back even faster (i pretty much always have my dodge up anyway) and then youre set. (Fragments are balance, mending, protection, purpose, and the last one can be whatever so I use solitude to make tormentors less annoying)

    • @BrandonOxiner
      @BrandonOxiner Před 7 dny

      This is a great GM combo too

    • @Akimbro
      @Akimbro Před 19 hodinami

      I’ve been running this too with call, graviton , threaded spike and grapple nade. Love it

  • @kojeb
    @kojeb Před 8 dny +118

    "this only gets recommended to you if you're super hot" does this mean i'm beyond attractive if i'm subbed and notified?

    • @MacticsG1
      @MacticsG1  Před 8 dny +60

      transcended

    • @michaelkerr3787
      @michaelkerr3787 Před 7 dny +4

      ​@@MacticsG1 HE SAID IT, HE SAID THE WORD

    • @sajmon2771
      @sajmon2771 Před 6 dny +3

      Your eldritch beauty is beyond our mortal understanding

  • @diontes1480
    @diontes1480 Před 8 dny +37

    Youre tripping on Caliban/Coyote is best used for Threaded Spike or Withering Blade. Multi leveled ignitions, and Overload/Unstoppable stun on dodges is nice

    • @ianelliott8720
      @ianelliott8720 Před 8 dny +1

      I've enjoyed it as well. It rips!!!

    • @nathanmassaro4422
      @nathanmassaro4422 Před 7 dny +12

      its not combination blow so he doesnt give a fuck about anything that doesn't buff that

    • @alexanderspassov4759
      @alexanderspassov4759 Před 7 dny +1

      ​@@nathanmassaro4422mactics is the perfect ex of someone who thinks he knows a lot more than he actually does

    • @soyoucanchangethis
      @soyoucanchangethis Před 6 dny

      @@alexanderspassov4759 Its called the dunning kruger effect

    • @GuardiosK
      @GuardiosK Před 5 dny +2

      @@alexanderspassov4759 I mean it's his opinion. I think there are sleeper picks here for sure. I think inmostlight/gyrfalcon and caliban/arachne are pretty good, for example. I disagree with a lot of the list, but I don't think he means to say it's objective

  • @robo-7417
    @robo-7417 Před 8 dny +9

    Verity does actually work with grapple melee since it counts as both a nade and melee on hit

  • @_ghostly_
    @_ghostly_ Před 8 dny +1

    Perfect way to ti end my day at around Midnight, thanks Mac

  • @SublethalDust
    @SublethalDust Před 7 dny +5

    Something that might be worth considering and might be a sleeper build is having the foetracer/lair or foetracer/synthoceps class exotic with the Legend of Acrius shotgun since it is an arc power weapon it will receive a damage buff from foetracer when using combination blow along with the buff from trench barrel. Might be a good alternate in place of sword dps

  • @Real_0rigin
    @Real_0rigin Před 8 dny +2

    I’m glad someone else said the same thing about tangle seasonal perk. I was saying this the second I started using the new Strand Titan arms. Combined with Final Warning and a 1-2 punch shotty is nuts.

  • @ArchangelNashan
    @ArchangelNashan Před 8 dny +1

    Thank you Mac for the opinion on the Renewal/Syntho roll as I just got one the other day and was looking into it for the "Dodge-Punchy" build I've been using.

  • @beaucarroll4279
    @beaucarroll4279 Před 8 dny

    Exactly what I was looking for!!! Absolute beast, thanks Mactics

  • @xRedacted_
    @xRedacted_ Před 8 dny +3

    Crazy with the shade on Foe Liars. Combination blow and Dead Weight 1-2 punch.

  • @integrallens6045
    @integrallens6045 Před 7 dny +1

    Syntho also works with glaives like wintersbite which slows on hit so it synergizes with stylish.

  • @Celestial2107
    @Celestial2107 Před 8 dny

    Mactics making a shoutout to the warmind cells unlocked a memory i had forgotten back in beyond light

  • @sk8inPingwin
    @sk8inPingwin Před 8 dny

    Thought the Caliban/Synthoceps CI I have wasnt that great so I'm trying it now because of this video and oh man is this thing crazy! The damage and explosions are top tier

  • @TemptinqqMC
    @TemptinqqMC Před 8 dny

    Just the video I was waiting for!

  • @zachgiovannelli2626
    @zachgiovannelli2626 Před 7 dny +3

    Caliban Cyrt for fun, Inmost Cert for hard content.
    I run a The Call and Graviton Lance with the Unravel/volatile rounds. Threaded Spike, Grapple, Gunpowder and Stylish. The ignitions on threaded are hilarious in at level content, but the ability Gen is great for 100% woven in endgame. Keep in mind, Cyrt works with Gunpowder too so Woven is up all the time.

  • @xgodxy
    @xgodxy Před 7 dny

    this is an awesome video, explained 'em thoroughly! 🔥what are the chances that you're gonna make a warlock one though?

  • @Luteloots
    @Luteloots Před 8 dny +43

    I think you're underestimating how good Gyrfalcons is with volatile rounds honestly. We already have the same fragment to get volatile rounds on grenade kills on void itself but NOBODY uses that instead of Gyrfalcons if they want volatile rounds on Hunter. On Prismatic it's even worse because as you mentioned the grenade options are generally awful at getting kills.
    Galanor + Gyrfalcons in particular is one of my god-rolls due to the fact that it gives you both of the best void builds at once. You have tether spam via Galanor filling in for Orpheus Rigs AND you have volatile spam via Gyrfalcons. Absolutely amazing build and Buried Bloodline in particular makes it even better as it grants you a source of devour too which is the only thing prismatic hunter is really missing from void.
    Void weapons aren't even really a downside this season in particular with expanding abyss.
    Volatile rounds are ALSO anti-barrier which is important to remember, while volatile is a debuff to trigger stylish executioner. Might not be a huge deal this season with radiant orbs but anti-barrier will be much harder to come by when that's no longer a perk if you can't have constant uptime on your melee ability, particularly as Radiant only lasts 5 seconds on prismatic compared to 15 on most Solar builds.
    I also HIGHLY suspect that the combination blow build on Prismatic Hunter is going to get nerfed to hell with how insanely broken it is, which is going to make other options much more important compared to only focusing on those builds with Calibans + Synthos or Liar's. Not to mention the other "best" build being Nighthawk GG with Still Hunt which similarly will likely get nerfed significantly.

    • @Arth0n
      @Arth0n Před 8 dny +16

      I've using a hoil + gyrfalcons cloak with a repulser brace recluse and have been loving it, combination blow build is super boring imo

    • @lemmingskmt
      @lemmingskmt Před 8 dny +3

      Volatile is the worst of the 3 light elemental damage spreaders, volt shot(jolt) and incan(scorch) is way better and require no investment in your exotic, aspect, fragment, or artifact. Building around volatile was good when it 1st came out but it's dead.

    • @TheRockemsockm
      @TheRockemsockm Před 8 dny +9

      You have no idea how to build.
      Void and Prismatic are not the same thing. You can have perma uptime in prismatic with volatile and better exotic choices.

    • @savior-
      @savior- Před 7 dny

      @@TheRockemsockmhow

    • @DripBayIess
      @DripBayIess Před 7 dny

      @@Arth0n how do you get different roles on the recluse? Or you just lucky and got it a while back 😅

  • @boosheedoe4403
    @boosheedoe4403 Před 8 dny

    nice hoodie bro I had an OF bag all of highschool lmfaoo great vid

  • @wh3eze739
    @wh3eze739 Před 8 dny +1

    I crack up every time with the horse drawing!

    • @water924
      @water924 Před 23 hodinami

      Stop lying lil bro

  • @AngusmcFangus
    @AngusmcFangus Před 7 dny +1

    Just a heads up with the spreadsheet, the exotic Cyrtarachne is mispelled under both the function tab and the tracker column making them unable to be tracked lol. might want to fix that bit

  • @davidchawner3301
    @davidchawner3301 Před 8 dny +1

    Inmost light gets the x2 buff from grapple. 1x from the grapple cast and the 2x when u grapple melee someone

  • @DreyfusLagoon
    @DreyfusLagoon Před 7 dny

    Verity/inmost light with gunpowder gamble basically gives hunter pocket nukes on demand. Especially if you’re running the call/graviton lance with facet of command, giving you infinite volitile and unraveling rounds which in turn gives you infinite gunpowder gambles

  • @BarbellBinks
    @BarbellBinks Před dnem

    My first and only item rn is caliban's and verity. Didn't even know what verity did, but the synergy with gunpowder gamble + grapple melee + crafted the call is insane. This combo with threaded spike to proc ignitions on EVERY ENEMY hit with the spike, is one of the most insane crowd control builds I can image. Not to mention is extremely fun and satisfying. Maybe I'm coping bc it's my only one, but I think it's great and fits in very good easily

  • @ryanclune3883
    @ryanclune3883 Před 6 dny

    One thing to mention about grapple melees and liars handshake + combination blow combo, liars buffs the first punch after the grapple melee, hitting g for huge damage if you already have combination blow stacks, very quick burst dps, especially with a 1-2 punch shotty.

  • @3ndlessL00p
    @3ndlessL00p Před 5 dny

    Just watched each of these tier lists in reverse order from release and I gotta say:
    I love that the only tier that's consistent throughout is "That One Horse Drawing" tier lmao

  • @kdogg12222
    @kdogg12222 Před 6 dny +1

    Is there a spreadsheet with this tier list? Identifying the exotics based on the picture is a bit rough.

  • @colourmentos7976
    @colourmentos7976 Před 6 dny +1

    Liked and described for rizzing me up in the intro as promised

  • @evanwhitaker9502
    @evanwhitaker9502 Před 8 dny +1

    Still getting rolls to test with my build. I love running threaded spike and arcbolt grenade with whatever super fits the activity

  • @mleite1
    @mleite1 Před 7 dny +2

    I have a Gallanor + Gyrfalcon, on a prismatic void build + destabilizing rounds weapon, it is really good

  • @jameelhassan2614
    @jameelhassan2614 Před 7 dny +2

    Gyrfalcons with galanor is actually crazy
    In content like Onslaught or the new duo mission they go crazy. I would even say it goes to "you win"

    • @henry.has.been.humbled
      @henry.has.been.humbled Před 7 dny

      That constant overshield with repulsor brace weapons saves me every time. Love the new duality mission

  • @juggaloxmuzicxify
    @juggaloxmuzicxify Před 8 dny +1

    Make sure you make one of these tier list for titans, thank

  • @KelhamJack
    @KelhamJack Před 8 dny +1

    Cytarachne and Caliban paired with threaded spike, gunpowder gamble and grapple grenade is great, infinite woven mail

  • @AkArli74u
    @AkArli74u Před 7 dny

    First time completing dual destiny I got that God tier caliban and liar roll, before people had videos out for that build I was using it. it’s so fun

  • @hunterrosplock1775
    @hunterrosplock1775 Před 7 dny

    Do you think you could make a strong setup for Doomfang pauldrons using the Prismatic Subclass? Being able to regen so much super energy from shield throw melee with any of the prismatic titan supers seems pretty strong, I just have not unlocked everything on my titan yet for me to test myself. So far I am enjoying launching thundercrashes every minute in casual content.

  • @novatheavenger3314
    @novatheavenger3314 Před 6 dny

    I'm going to argue that threaded specter with the combination blow loop is nuts. You have a sea of spectres distracting enemies while you are going full tyson

  • @zellegoodwin9046
    @zellegoodwin9046 Před 8 dny

    Been running Verity's calibans using ticuus solar swarm nade and strand spike melee on hunter. Ticuus can target the gundowder gamble and I use threaded spector for survivability. You can spam gunpowders on repeat in low end and in high end you can use ticuus pretty good DMG or Polaris or stack gunpowder and verity stacks and use GPG to nuke big targets.

  • @stayathomedad4830
    @stayathomedad4830 Před 8 dny +1

    Foetracer/stareater has been doing great in dps for me

  • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
    @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Před 8 dny

    HOIL + Verity has been great on my gunpowder grapple build. Grapple melee gives an immediate x2 regen. Verity increases the gunpowder. Plus I can grapple on my gunpowder dynamite if I dont have a tangle lol.

  • @Tyberes
    @Tyberes Před 8 dny

    The only thing about using Gunpowder, Gamble and Grapple is that you need to be incredibly conscious of the Gunpowder Gamble cooldown. It will come up the instant it comes off cooldown.
    A Gamble when you want to Grapple, Grapple when you want to Gamble will be lethal.
    SUPER fun build tho.

  • @aicro_o
    @aicro_o Před 6 dny

    I’ve got spirit of inmost light (titan exotic) and spirit of the coyote, which I don’t see in here so might it be a new find or did he forget it, or did I skip over it?

  • @RoyaltonDrummer922
    @RoyaltonDrummer922 Před 8 dny +1

    Inmost Light is a nice bonus as a second perk but isn’t nuts

  • @jasonmorgan3932
    @jasonmorgan3932 Před 5 dny

    By and large agree, but in defense of foetracer not having to run 3 surges is super nice for mod flexibility. Really helps uptime on a lot of abilities while not losing out on the damage :)

  • @matteodegroeve9172
    @matteodegroeve9172 Před 2 dny

    I had to work ik the garden but when i saw this pop up i asked if i could watch it but i the time i watched i had to work that double SO YOU BETTER LIKE THIS👹

  • @Hughes12
    @Hughes12 Před 8 dny +1

    Star Eaters and Storms Edge actually does some pretty good damage. You should test it out if you get the chance.

  • @AnimatedGk6
    @AnimatedGk6 Před 7 dny +1

    ended up getting Calaban / liar one today after my 10ish cloak

  • @corruptsolstice340
    @corruptsolstice340 Před 8 dny

    Theoretically, you could run Assassins Cowl to replace Stylish with Decoys and get an extra fragment.

  • @MrRawRock
    @MrRawRock Před 8 dny

    Oh man, you reminded me how much I miss Warmind Cells.

  • @sajmon2771
    @sajmon2771 Před 6 dny

    I really like having inmost light with gyrfalcon while using a weapon with repulsor brace, constantly reprocking invisibility and shields.

  • @ps-5man836
    @ps-5man836 Před 8 dny

    nice vid,. can you do titan and warlock in future

  • @out_lander0111
    @out_lander0111 Před 8 dny +2

    I got fotracer and falcon and I'm using it with wavesplitter and I have melt stuff and I suppress everything. Once it's level 3 is chunks adds and champion like butter

  • @thegr1mr3ap3r8
    @thegr1mr3ap3r8 Před 8 dny +1

    Thank you for moving inmost cyrtarachnes, I have this roll, I use it with ascension, withering, and swarm nade, it’s actually gas, loving the constant abilities and woven, as well as constant ignitions, jolt, and shatters

    • @rickblackburn5233
      @rickblackburn5233 Před 7 dny

      Pretty sure that ascension doesn’t proc inmost light

    • @thegr1mr3ap3r8
      @thegr1mr3ap3r8 Před 7 dny

      @@rickblackburn5233 nah it doesn’t unfortunately, but it’s not really necessary, with fragments and such

    • @rickblackburn5233
      @rickblackburn5233 Před 7 dny

      @@thegr1mr3ap3r8 just wasted potential bc I was running the exact same build basically and was so upset abt it

    • @thegr1mr3ap3r8
      @thegr1mr3ap3r8 Před 6 dny

      @@rickblackburn5233 I agree, it should proc Inmost, I’m still using my class ability 😂

  • @mandogaming8078
    @mandogaming8078 Před 8 dny +5

    Got my renewal/liars.. which is perfect for my duskfield/combo priz build

    • @DAK_11
      @DAK_11 Před 8 dny

      I got renewal and synthoceps

    • @bangerrr569
      @bangerrr569 Před 7 dny +1

      Renewal liars plus woven mail from strand super and fragment, plus galvanic artifact, plus resistance mods + resistance fragment = never die.

    • @qualichor1222
      @qualichor1222 Před 3 dny

      I got this roll earlier, looking forward to giving it a run out

  • @jtdahot187
    @jtdahot187 Před 4 dny

    Galanor + Coyote combo is fire 🔥. I use gamblers dodge, and threaded spike to constantly get super energy back. It’s crazy supers all day!!!

  • @AzarathMetreon
    @AzarathMetreon Před 7 dny +1

    Verity/HOIL on hunter is really fun. I always have every ability whenever I want it to be available and I get juiced magnetic nades to chunk when I need them to lol. Also Caliban/Syntho 😩
    Edit: I did some testing with my Verity/HOIL, there was no difference in shatter damage with or without max death throes. Without any other investment, both sources ended up with a max of about 17k damage on a shatter.

  • @russellallen1006
    @russellallen1006 Před 2 dny

    That was always a fragment in void as well. Gyrfalcons is so good because it makes volatile and invisibility infinitely chainable with Trappers Ambush.

  • @Quantumwastaken
    @Quantumwastaken Před 5 dny

    Ophidian + Star Eater for DPS Rotations imo belongs at least in Not Trolling, if base supers get buffed or changed in the future for prismatic hunter it could be very viable over something like Celestial swapping

  • @Whimsical_creature12
    @Whimsical_creature12 Před 8 dny

    Easily my favorite content creator

  • @Prince_officia1
    @Prince_officia1 Před 8 dny

    Dont write off inmost light too much. it's really strong on hunter. The grapple melee counts as two abilities so if you grapple you get x1 and if you grapple melee an enemy you get x2 regeneration. in the same breath, hitting multiple enemies with either your threaded spike or stasis shuriken will instantly give you x2 regeneration and because you have so many abilities, you can even get up to x3 regeneration with ease.

  • @integrallens6045
    @integrallens6045 Před 7 dny

    I actually like the synergy between coyote and dragon because you essentially get both gambler's and marksman dodge in one and with coyote you don't need a melee kill to fully freeze. Where I find I enjoy this pairing the most is either with a wave frame grenade launcher because I can dodge all I want while keeping gl loaded the whole loop. dodge, waveframe, melee dodge. and if I some how mess up the loop I have the spare dodge just to reload and get that melee back. I agree that it wouldn't be top tier but I would put it slightly higher.
    My favorite use for the pair though is with ergo sum. when I'm running ES I don't rely on melee as much but having the coyote spirit lets me get 2 quick dodges off to freeze enemies quickly then hit them with the waveframe sword shot. I would like to have something else with coyote in these cases instead of dragon but its sort of helpful to have my other weapons reload. Not optimized by any means though.
    Obviously the melee builds are the meta but I like getting away from the obvious meta to see how far other builds will take me.

  • @Opportunity_Drive
    @Opportunity_Drive Před 7 dny

    where can i find the spreadsheet with exact values for stuff?

  • @leek5682
    @leek5682 Před 7 dny

    Syntho beats out liars with perfect setup: navigator grapple point, one two punch shotgun, and tether allows you to chain grapple melees while becoming invis off shared damage from hitting a tethered boss with shotgun to become invis before grapple melee hits boss. Insane numbers!

  • @Rhuel47
    @Rhuel47 Před 5 dny

    I think Renewal/Wormhusk on solar is gonna be majorly slept on for survival. It's way better than renewal/cyrtarachne from testing I've done.
    Constant Healing with strong DR is much better than just the DR. In -30 content. The healing from just combiblow is not enough in many scenarios, the dodging synergy is perfect, vs only getting woven off grenades.
    Throw in the void/stasis aspect and the party starts

  • @bot-qw1be
    @bot-qw1be Před 8 dny +1

    I feel like galanor + star eater scales would be nasty

  • @johnwilliamson8371
    @johnwilliamson8371 Před 8 dny +1

    Foetracer / gyrfalcon is just super buffed void weapons and high uptime on invs

  • @TheSmurf1973
    @TheSmurf1973 Před 8 dny

    Spirit of Osmiancy losing the 2nd grenade is a kick in the nuts.

  • @pocketsdsquirrel3207
    @pocketsdsquirrel3207 Před 8 dny

    I was playing the other day just goofing around. Picked up an exotic class with both caliban's and liar like nothing. I was so happy RNGesus was shining down on me

  • @stardreamix786
    @stardreamix786 Před 6 dny

    where can i get the data compendum spreadsheet showing all the class item stuff - i need that!

  • @zellegoodwin9046
    @zellegoodwin9046 Před 8 dny

    Today I learned mactics over values combo blow. Neat

  • @blanked8243
    @blanked8243 Před 8 dny

    kinda niche but TDS WITH marksman is actually quite good for rocket rotations as if you time the dodge properly you can get 2 rockets from a dodge as they each reload at different times in the dodge animation (search "Dragon's Shadow tech guide" or smth of the sort) so coyote with dragons i would say is niche and if you are using it you (probably) know what you're doing. Useful for bosses where smth like foetracer wouldn't give you enough time to dump all your rockets but dragons would. Wanted to give it a shout as it's a useful thing to know, even if it's probably smth you wont do every day (:

  • @UnclePockets
    @UnclePockets Před 8 dny

    wait why should you not dismantle the 4fun and horse drawing class items? would it not be way better to just run the basic exotic (good part of the horse) and get additional profits?

  • @Megatherium
    @Megatherium Před dnem

    I have all the best hunter class items and my favorite build at this point is synthos + heart of inmost light. I run grapple + threaded spike. Basically 1-2p grapple melee is so potent on this subclass that I hate handicapping it with combination blow, which causes synthos to do 30% instead of 165%, even for grapple melee. With inmost light, you can grapple to a tangle to constantly maintain x2 HOIL regen. Then melee and gamblers dodge can be spammed quite a bit too, and get your grapple back in under 10 seconds if you lose it. It’s very easy to make tangles with the threaded spike, which is also snytho-boosted 165%.
    Liars + Caliban is best in slot for many activities and players. But I am addicted to the 500k-1.6m grapple melee.

  • @hue_lord_4208
    @hue_lord_4208 Před 7 dny

    Galanor and Synthos would actually go crazy with a grapple melee build.

  • @callouu3601
    @callouu3601 Před 8 dny

    The main one I’ve tested and actually disagree with the most is Liars + inmost light. Honestly, it doesn’t sound like it makes a big difference, but like instant cooldown on grapple and not needing to worry if you mess up combination / roll combo is so nice in practice. I got the liars + calibans roll, but actually find it difficult to stack combination blow for elite damage because every melee kill wipes the entire group of adds. Great if there’s 100 enemies like in the exotic mission, but in normal activities with rooms of 10 enemies, it’s actually hard to get to x3 combination with calibans. Funny how killing stuff too fast makes the build more difficult to play around, but yea! Don’t sleep on Liars / inmost. It stays in my inventory for less convuluted fights

  • @lemons7721
    @lemons7721 Před 8 dny +1

    4th run I got caliban + syntho feeling goated rn 3rd run of dual destiny I did dupe and got the same combination twice lol

  • @DanteAmerigo
    @DanteAmerigo Před 8 dny

    Mac, are you planning on doing a video like this for warlocks and titans also??

    • @heaych
      @heaych Před 8 dny

      Nah, those guys stink!

  • @_lightninggg
    @_lightninggg Před 8 dny

    ngl you should try this:
    slikstrike (for woven mail from orbs of power)
    threaded specter or invis
    liars+renewal (frost armor)
    tank hunter + dmg lol (you could also do s&q instead of silkstrike and use the woven mail on grenade exotic instead of renwal)

  • @1Sky1Earth
    @1Sky1Earth Před 7 dny

    Gunpowder Gamble gives free ignitions, is great for crowd clears or burning down heavier enemies, and (when they finally fix it) will be an easy way to proc Facet of Mending
    Ascension turning your dodge into a jolting move while also proccing amplify, which scales twice this season for resistance
    Winter's Shroud is something you're probably already running with Stylish so no need for me to sing the praises of it's additional effect
    And Threaded Spectre practically forcing enemies to target something other than you is no joke one of the best aspects to me now that I've been forced to play with it.
    There is not one bad aspect on Prismatic Hunter, they all have their uses and abilities and can work into a ton of builds.

  • @brendonpatrick4107
    @brendonpatrick4107 Před 2 dny

    do you think nighthawk is still better for gm nightfalls over calibans/liars?

  • @progowl3086
    @progowl3086 Před 7 dny

    I feel like there is a good argument for Assassins/Liars to be placed higher. I have both Assassins/Liars and Calibans/Liars, but haven't done any endgame content yet in which the difference between these combinations could be more significant. While I don't think the prior is ultimately as good as the latter, the ability to freeze and shatter an enemy after dodging near them twice which can detonate both Threaded Specters if they are close enough to the shatter has a pretty similar effect to an ignition.
    On top of that you have a decent amount of light and dark damage from just using your melee ability and dodge so you charge Transcendent much faster than I think you can with Calibans/Liars (I almost prefer Assassins/Liars just for this). With the extra facet slot from Threaded Specter you can run what I consider the core Facets (Ruin, Courage, Protection, and Purpose) along with Sacrifice and Devotion to further enhance your ability to recharge Transcendent, or even swap one of those out for Generosity (for more team support as you can activate Transcendent frequently), or Balance (so you can have your grenade up essentially all the time which allows you to use the combination of combination blows + grapple to easily get rapid arc kills for amplified as well as making you more mobile).
    Threaded Specter also provides more team support as it pulls agro not just off of you (like invisibility does), but also off of your team. Additionally if you are in a position where you are unable to turn invisible but need an escape it can provide that.

  • @r1lovin
    @r1lovin Před 8 dny

    Inmost and liars is do good. Getting grapple back all the time on top of super fast recover if combination gets out of sync

  • @michaeladams3640
    @michaeladams3640 Před dnem

    The shatter damage on duskfield SHOULD be considered grenade damage, I do know for a fact that shatters inside duskfield proc facet of bravery's volatile rounds so I think it's safe to assume that duskfield shatters also benefit from grenade damage buffs

  • @shanemoody529
    @shanemoody529 Před 8 dny +12

    Grapple melee benefits from both melee damage increases and grenade damage increases. Warlocks were able to run potent navigator builds last season because verity buffed grapple melee.

    • @TheRockemsockm
      @TheRockemsockm Před 8 dny

      Verity is trash on Hunter because we have zero grenade builds. It will remain trash because Melee also boosts grappler.

    • @rayne217
      @rayne217 Před 8 dny

      verity is literally only good on warlock

    • @kommanderkermit4874
      @kommanderkermit4874 Před 8 dny

      @@TheRockemsockm Does transcendence grenade benefit from Verity as Hunter nade does loads of damage? And gunpowder benefits from verity as well which is nice

    • @stixxii
      @stixxii Před 8 dny +1

      @@kommanderkermit4874the transcendent grenades are just super stunning nades basically they don’t do a lot of damage i’ve noticed, just gives them a bunch of debuffs that gotta be used with weapons that match debuff to do damage that’s used for those nades a lot of the time

    • @arjunbaweja7755
      @arjunbaweja7755 Před 8 dny

      Since syntho is possibly generally the stacking nature of the spirit makes it less desirable. However, it is still worth holding onto that cause A: it's a good subsitution. B: Hunters def causing syntho to get nerfed

  • @allen9370
    @allen9370 Před 8 dny

    I gotta be honest tho, Liar + assasin + threaded specter are like the exodia in a team, they are modt definitely help with team survival.
    Do you think there should be a tier list based on the team utilities for hunters?

  • @Saffimaru
    @Saffimaru Před 8 dny

    Galanor gyra combo is two void builds in one, deserves to be higher up

  • @josht9827
    @josht9827 Před 8 dny

    Are you going to do one for PVP too?

  • @henrymoxley5114
    @henrymoxley5114 Před 8 dny +2

    I personally think that inmost light and verity’s is legit s tier. Inmost light is amazing on hunter due to the already quick dodge cooldown and having a natural very good double melee in withering blade. Magnetic grenade while not being the best is still really good single target. While prismatic though death throes goes hard on the frostyfirey spike nade. I think its the combo that bets takes advantage of being transcendent which is the coolest part of prismatic. That and Im honestly already bored of prismatic punchy hunter

  • @nelsoncaraballo3278
    @nelsoncaraballo3278 Před 7 dny

    Which is Better overall? Lost Signal Or The Call?

  • @MrMulligan7
    @MrMulligan7 Před 6 dny

    Very first drop was Worm/Assassin. Immediately wasn't happy with that so I started farming. I wanted the double up protection roll but instead got the Liar/Caliban roll. Not a bad thing, but I do get tired of the punching all the time when I play solo.

  • @itssscruddyyy148
    @itssscruddyyy148 Před 8 dny

    Assassins Cowl + Liars is great if you aren't using stylish. I run that with threaded specter and gunpowder and go crazy dude.

  • @ryanmolloy5421
    @ryanmolloy5421 Před 4 dny

    Does the star eater buff stay around if you pop Goldie and then swap to nighthawk? I feel like there's no way it does...

  • @HiruZero
    @HiruZero Před 7 dny

    I did my first hunter run of the mission last night and got caliban handshake. If my other 2 characters could cry, they would be.

  • @tesseracht
    @tesseracht Před 8 dny +1

    I got Caliban's/Liar's as my third drop. It's bonkers!