(Part 2) The WORLD'S LOUDEST Portable Bluetooth Speaker - Bose L1 Pro32/Sub2 (Outside Demonstration)
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I forgot to mention something very important . The Bose Pro32 has a dispersion of 180 degrees. This was very evident when I walked far away. In all directions the volume remained the same to the sides and at a distance. In comparison traditional speakers have a dispersion between 90-105 degrees. None of the other competing Bluetooth speakers have anywhere near 180 degree dispersion. This is a major reason performers and listeners pay more for Bose technology.
Wowwwww! Awesome demo and great song!
After almost a year no regrets! Still no other system which is as portable can touch this performance! For you Audiophiles out there I challenge you: For $3,300 name a complete Hifi system that can equal or surpass this performance at high dBs. At low to medium volumes any good Studio Monitor will have cleaner high end/SQ. Bose has rolled off highs that even EQing doesn't solve completely. I personally play my music loud from 85-100+dB! At those volumes with the 180 degree throw that only Bose produces this is the closest I have experienced to Live music reproduction in a home environment.
Curious if you’ve heard the Maui 44 G2…. I’m seeing a lot of DJs using these speakers. About the same price as the pro32
@@chromemusic4401 No. never heard it, Besides volume/bass performance, very different . Maui is super heavy, at that weight I'm taking a pair of QSC K12.2's over QSC KS118sub. Pro32/Sub2 is literally a 5min. set up/tear down. Weight to performance ratio is the best in the business!
No company matches the 180 degree dispersion of the Bose and all the advantages that come with it. Pro32 might have a longer throw, not sure? Maui probably has your typical PA sound. Bose has that super smooth/Hi-fi mids that people either love or hate.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I absolutely love the Bose sound and I saw in one of your comments you said Bose rolled off some of the highs in the lower to medium volumes on the Pro series. My ears didn’t deceive me. A little eq magic can put it right back. Thanks for the reply
@@chromemusic4401 EQ boosting the highs does make a difference to a certain extent.
My solution is to line out to an aux speaker that has a more traditional PA clean high end. I gain stage the aux speaker just enough to blend. It makes a huge difference! I use any of the following: QSC,EV,RCF, or JBL.
DJs say a wedding reception with 200+ people dancing is not a problem for a single Pro32/Sub2. That makes it the ULTIMATE Micro Rig!
Since making this video Bose has come out with a Firmware update for the Sub2. In my tests I had clipping on the sub at 110dB. Since the update the gain can now be set much higher before clipping. I have not done any further max dB tests but I am sure the system can get much closer to Bose's max dB stats of 129dB before clipping. Since I am not DJing I am not going to be doing any further max dB tests, but take my word for it- this system is LOUD!
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Hello and thank you for the informative videos. What model of the expert power do I need for my Bose L1 pro 8? I know you use the expert power 400 but yours is the Pro 32 which needs more power. I would probably need less than that right? Thank you so much.
Glad you liked the videos. I would stick with the Expert Power 400. The extra power will give you more run time and for peak volume on demanding low bass music the extra power is used.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thank you so much for your quick response, you are very kind for taking the time to answer and share your knowledge. Have a great day.
400 watts will definitely work! The issue is if you are DJing or playing a gig at high volume over 2+ hours then you need a more powerful unit. The louder you play say 100dB the shorter the run time. In that case maybe 800 watts. Check out this latest video: czcams.com/video/8-mEhLx-MHQ/video.html
DJ’s play at high volume easily for over 2 + hours. Can this trip the system.
I want to emphasize again the Sub2 does not come battery powered from Bose. This is a system that I personally put together, that works!
Brand and model power source you are using? How long does it play using the power source?
@@Big_Jake-HTX Expert Power 400 has 5 bars. It went down 1 bar in a hour, but the louder you play the less run time you will get. For 100dB+ figure 2 hours. At low volume say 80dB figure 5-10 hours but I have never tested it that long. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CYMCLDN/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_2?smid=ATW4RRWB3JMSM&psc=1 czcams.com/video/gfNxPJVRmqo/video.html
Hi your videos are very helpful. I'm not a DJ but a one-man band using full-band backing tracks. I own the Bose L1 Type 2 and will be selling it to get the S32. Two questions: So bottom line can the S32 handle a medium/large size outdoor if I were to raise the levels slightly higher? Will the bass be heard in distances long per than 30/40 ft? And the 2nd question on the Expert power, forgive my ignorance, can I plug a good heavy duty outlet strip into it. Because I have more than 3 outlets worth of equipment to power. Thanks in advance
Yes you can plug a power strip no problem. If your previous L1M2 handled your gig outside then Pro32 is louder. Bass outside is tricky. I tested at 15 feet and it was powerful! At 40 feet expect considerably less output. Keep in mind in the future you can pair two Sub2s on one power stand but that costs $$$. One Sub2 = 2x - 3x the B2.
16:07 could you provide a link to where you got the XLR Combo Jack covers? Thanks for the informative videos!
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So I dont need to buy the set of these? 1 speaker and subwoofer is okay for crowds of 50-200? Also will this sound great with a full band, with different sounds coming from one speaker?
Usually only DJs buy a set for looks and having a second for backup. 50 -150 people would be easy, some people say 200 people is pushing it. Full band, I can't say I've never done it. Bands usually stick with conventional speakers with horn tweeters.
your powerbank allow you to play the pro 32 at maximum volume? or it goes off before ?
because it is only 400 watt and the Pro 32 is supposed to draw 1000 watt peak
For this test outside, I was not playing at max volume, neither the sub or column were near clipping, but it was pretty loud, 100.7dB . I played for about 45 min. and had no problems. On two different times testing the Sub1 at home at max volume with bass heavy content the Sub1 shut down. I believe it was the protection circuitry of the Sub1 kicking in. Hopefully I didn't damage anything. Playing at normal volumes I don't think there is any issue. I have lost confidence in the system. If I had to do it again I would buy a battery of at least 700 watts.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Yes, I think you need a good quality powerbank, because a powerbank with a bad power supply could damage your system.
Otherwise you can also buy a gasoline generator, it's cheaper with a longer runtime but it's very noisy
@@sonny9546 If a speaker has protection circuitry like Bose and shuts down due to lack of power, how could that cause damage?
Can you run 2 bose l1 pro 16s and one pro 32 system together on that power box that's about 960 watts for the 32 plus 1250 watts a piece on both bose l1 pro 16s?
Probably not. I tried running the Pro 32/Sub2 with a Sub1 which equals 1,960 watts. It shut down:(
Hell Mr. Weiss, 1st of all thank you very much for sharing your review with Bose L1 Pro32. hoping to see more review and more testing with Bose Pro32. by the way, may i know the brand and model of your portable power supply that you used please. thank you
Glad you liked the review. The portable power station is: Expert Power 400. I bought it on Amazon. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CYMCLDN/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATW4RRWB3JMSM&psc=1
I understand it the room and not the people. If you were doing JUST vocals say for speech would you still buy two? Im an auctioneer and looking for a system (Prefer Battery power) for benefit auctions where they dont have sound. Some dont have power. I dont need a ton of woofer just vocal clarity and ease of set up as we dont generally have luxury of preset ups. Just show up and go. I have had house systems go down before because often the event people really arent prepared and know nothing of sound systems. I always carry a portable hailer with me but it sounds like a old farm auction them. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Pro 32 way more than you need. Money wasted. Pro32 will cover 200-250 loud people dancing at a wedding! New JBL EonMk2 is the best battery PA on the market. Check out this video: czcams.com/video/dk_4AHuIPZw/video.html
Do you know if the pro32 needs an update when you purchase it. I know the 16 has an update
I would check. I bought mine a year ago and there has been no update since.
I'm going to buy one of these portable generators. I saw you recently upgraded. How long do you think the 600w ecoflow could power a pro 32?
Also thinking of upgrading my busking setup to something like this. I can't decide between Jackery, Bluettie or Ecoflow. Each company also claims to be the best go figure thanks for your videos.
All three are good products. What sold me on Ecoflow is it has a Bluetooth App which is handy. It beats all others by charging from 0-80% in 1 hour!
I tested the Pro32/Sub2 at max volume with the Ecoflow Pro and it pulled a max 238 watts at 103dB. Ecoflow rated at 720wH but figure 80% efficiency so that puts you at 576wH. 576wH divided by 238 max watts= 2.4hours. If you play at normal volumes say 90dB it will pull much less watts, maybe 70-80 watts which would =7 hours.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thanks for replying and awesome to hear. I am thinking of running 2 setups. The bose pro 32 being the larger setup.
For the busking I was gonna get 2 pro 8s or a pro 16 and keep the pro 32 as the bigger system for gigs. I would also be running my blizzard lighting rig, phone, bose t8s tonematch mixer and my surface pro tablet. So I may need the bigger Ecoflow. I am leaning torward them over jackery and bluetti
Have you used the EV Evolve 50m and how does this compare?
No. haven't heard the EV50 but i do have the EV30. Completely different sound signature. Bose smooth Hi-fi mids/EV crystal clean high end typical of most PA speakers. Sub2 will have almost 2X the bass of the EV50! Bose has 180 degree throw that fills a huge space with one speaker. If you have the $$$ the Pro32/Sub2 is the way to go if you like the Bose House Sound!
Where did you get the battery pack from to run the speaker
The one I used 400 watts isn't made anymore, I now use 600 watt EcoFlow Pro. www.amazon.com/EF-ECOFLOW-Portable-Multiple-Recharge/dp/B08T1KY8SG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=8W4A5F0V1XMW&keywords=ecoflow+pro&qid=1681349913&sprefix=ecoflow+pro%2Caps%2C2311&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExNEFQVkhITFoxTDMwJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjQxNDE4WFRWWUVHUEQxRlo1JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3NTQ3NTQxWjJKN0MxVUJHTExaJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
What is that external power source? Could you please share the brand, model ?
It is called Expert Power 400. Unfortunately it isn't made any more. I am now using the more powerful 600 watt Ecoflow Pro. It's great because it charges from 0-80% in less than a hour and has a Bluetooth App.www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08T1KY8SG/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_3?smid=AH59O987TZWZR&psc=1
I will eventually get to owning this speaker... or should I bypass bc I just got the F1 812 w/ Sub.?
Sound wise F1's slightly louder. Sub2 goes down lower to 37hz. Pro32 will throw further. Unless you need the weight savings which is huge, I would stick with F1's.
You should put the sub on its side and put the tops on top of the sub 😊
Bose doesn't recommend that. They say the vibration of the sub can damage the electronics of the Pro32 base. After spending $3,300 I'm not taking the chance!
Thanks for your video. In your video you said you made a dust cove for the base to keep it clean. What did you use? Also what do you recommend for me to set the base on so it doesn’t get dirty? Thanks.
I didn't make it. It's a Gator mixer cover www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YVYBYQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1# If you want to go cheap, a large pillow case works:) Any yoga mat works for a good base.
Thanks no will get two of these. What do you recommend setting it on?
Do you have a picture of how you put the cover on it. I am ordering two and two yoga mats. I have two pro 32s.
@@dcpoole2005 I'm jealous two Pro32s! Cover just slips over, tighten with draw string. Unfortunately bottom is still exposed.
Thanks so much for responding. I find your videos very informative. Yes I DJ and wanted to have a uniformed look and never feel that I need more power. I just got them and havnt had a chance to really listen them. I hope I made a wise decision. Anyway, I bought two of the covers and two yoga mats to set them on.
Since making this video I purchased an Ecoflow Pro. Again Pure Sine Wave, for not that much more money 600watts vs 400 watts of the Expert Power 400 will give a longer run time and more power in reserves for power spikes of heavy bass tracks played at max volume. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08T1KY8SG/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_3?smid=AH59O987TZWZR&th=1
Hi William. What is the latest firmware update on the Bose L1 pro32?? I guess I have to update I just purchased it yesterday. By the way. Your videos are nice done. 👌🏼
Always run a firmware update on any new Bose PA product. Glad you enjoy the videos!
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Does it sound better with a mixer or bluetooth
A Mixer always give you more gain and EQ/effects options.
This is great! Please do an outdoor test for 2xS1 Pro + Sub2 would love to get stats for that. Keep up the good work, just try not to ramble, get to the good stuff faster lol. Otherwise loving your channel!
Thanks for the compliment! Actually I was thinking 2xS1Pro + Sub1 because it makes more sense as a portable system. Of course the bass output outside will be nowhere near the performance of the Sub2. I will work on the rambling, I know these videos are getting too long.
You're right, from a portability standpoint Sub1 definitely makes more sense. My application is DJ playing so am curious if I could play for 30 people or so outside. Anyhow, even if you do a Sub1 test it will still be useful. Have ordered my Sub2, expecting it next week!
@@djfuzzofficial how is your sub2 s1 pair holding up?
@@armgod1 it's perfect. I got the Sub2. 2 S1s plus the Sub2 is ridiculously loud I have to keep the volume on my mixer at 30% max outdoors if I wish for people to talk while dancing within 30m. Excellent sound!
@@djfuzzofficial thanks 4 reply! am excited to receive mine soon. Glad it's not a pointless purchase. Got 1s1, adding a 2nd s1 and a sub2. DJ'ing only
Hey! Is it stable at maximum volume? Dj use.. possible to hit 128db?
Stays clean up to 110dB with red clipping light flashing- no audible distortion. If you need 128dB for DJing go with an 18inch sub rated at 130dB+ like the QSC KS118 at $1,500 only $300 more. Did you check out my other videos on the Sub2? czcams.com/video/BEFuIsZvmqQ/video.html
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I think you need to measure the spl at 1 meter away with a sound level meter that measures decibels C and not A to get a more realistic result
@@sonny9546 Thanks for the suggestion. I need to get a better spl meter, mine only has A. Isn't 1 meter too close? Seems unrealistic. Few audience members stand 1 meter from PA speakers.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz because it is the measurement method of the manufacturers.
Bom dia meu amigo, tenho visto seus vídeos sobre este sistema e preciso de sua opinião para que eu faça uma boa escolha ! Este sistema é capaz de se comportar bem em um ambiente fechado com 400 pessoas ?
400 people. Need two Pro32/Sub2 systems.
How long do you think this system will play at 80% with that particular battery inverter?
It has five bars and went down 1 bar in an hour. So 5 hours max, but I have never tested it that long. The louder you play = more battery drain. In further testing with the Sub1 at max volume over 100dB with bass heavy tracks the Sub 1 shut down on me on two separate occasions. If I had to do it again I would probably get something in the 800 watt range for peace of mind. At normal volumes never had an issue with this unit. Your other question: The Bose Pro line has built in Bluetooth which is excellent.
I'm getting tired of waiting for my JBL DSR 15's. $1,400 each and I am not looking forward to jacking them up on poles. I'm 54 years old with some back issues. This is interesting and I can afford two of them. Largest venue was the central park bandshell where QSC K12's had plenty of power. Would you recommend 2 of these for a band playing small venues up to that size (band shell)?
54 and not getting younger-you will be amazed by the light weight and 5 min set up/tear down! I never play such large gigs but two Pro32s/Sub2s will equal a pair of k12s. Sub2 is not going to equal 18" QSC subs but performs similar to a good 15"sub. People state they play up to 400 people with a pair. 180 degree dispersion is something to experience, and the throw is incredible. These max out at 128dB which will not match the 130dB++ of those JBLs. Best advice try them out. Both Bose and Guitar center have great return policies. You might want to pose this question on the Bose Facebook Forum, a lot of gigging pros.
Is this still the loudest Bose system on the market?
No, the F1 series has always been a few dB louder, but the Pro32 is portable!
try the DB technologies es1203, i think it can sound louder than the bose.
I looked it up, wow 132 dB Max! Less money $2,500, but the sub at 65lbs is for me not in the portable category. Have you heard it?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Yes, I have one at home, it sounds really loud with a punchy bass, even outdoors it's really impressive
in europe it costs only 1200 € it's a very good deal at this price
@@WWeiss-nv5vz and you can disassemble the two speakers from the column to turn the system into a 2.1 stereo system
@@sonny9546 How's the bass and high end compared to the Party Box1000? Where in Europe do you live?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I live in France,
Partybox 1000 has deeper bass and higher treble, Es1203 has better mid bass and better mids but for the max volume partybox 1000 has no chance (especially outdoors) the deep bass of the partybox decreases a lot in outdoor.
to summarize partybox 1000 sounds better at medium volume but at high volume es1203 is better
Another important fact is that the Expert Power, power station has three AC outlets. This is critical for other devices like a mixer. The Jackery 500 which is more powerful at 500 watts has only one AC input. Deal Breaker for me!
Thanks for the review W. Can you tell me how long the PA operates on a full charge of the 444Wh or 500Wh power station?
@@walawala147 The Jackery 500 only has one AC input. That's a limiting factor in my opinion. I never played this setup for extended times. On my 444Wh unit it went down one bar out of 5 at close to 100dB after one hour. I estimate safely 4 hours at DJ volume. The louder you play the quicker the battery is depleted. At moderate volumes say 85dB maybe 9-10 hours. Again never tested it, just guesstimating:)
I own two Sub1's and two S1 Pro's... I'm considering a pair of Pro 32's with Sub1's for flexibility (using a pair of Sub1's instead of a single heavier Sub2). The only thing that concerns me (besides the price!) is the durability of the columns. Can they be easily knocked over? And being aluminum instead of steel - are they considerably more delicate? We must be leading parallel lives - because - I also have many of the same speakers and have been experimenting with battery power!
@@bestproaudio4255 No it is sturdy, I would say the column of the Pro32 can not be easily knocked over, but the super light weight aluminum columns are "easily" dented. I've already seen two cases on the Bose Facebook Forum of people who have dented their columns. Don't depend on the flimsy thin bag Bose provides. Get some real cases - a hard case would be best. Two Sub1s = 1 Sub2 but without that ultra low end 37Hz of the Sub2.
Latest Test: How many watts does the Sub2 pull at max volume? czcams.com/video/OTVYVKeXGM0/video.html
Do you experience the hiss they are talking about?
In my experience noticeable slight hiss starts at 12:00 on Ch1 and Ch2 on the gain with no source plugged in. With any kind of music playing even the quietest, would not be heard. In my testing for this video I was using Bluetooth Ch3. Ch3 there is zero hiss. At home I use a mixer. Gain at 9:00-10:00 zero hiss. Mixer at unity, super loud! Slight hiss starts at 11:30 but need to be inches from the column. If you need the gain at 12:00+ you probably need much larger point source speakers that play at 130dB+ ,thinking JBL/RCF/QSC
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thanks
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How long did your power station run the whole system for?
A little over one hour and it went down one bar out of five! The louder you play the more power used. For 100dB+ figure 2 hours. At low volume say 80dB figure 5-10 hours but I have never tested it that long.
So do you think with my Jackery 1000 I could potentially get 4 hours at a decent volume?
@@jaydias7263 Jackery 1,000 nice unit 1,000 watts! I would bet no problem. What is your definition of decent volume?
100db plus
@@jaydias7263 Should work- good luck.
This is a nice setup speakers to bad the man can’t play anything nice due to copyright issues instead we listen to some ringtones
I agree! I don't get it. Seems to me the artist would want their music shared with a larger audience that would purchase it?
Well after one year from making this video we have a new King of Bluetooth dB! JBL PRX915 133dB $1,100. match it up with the Bose Sub2 and for $2,400 you will have the loudest Bluetooth speaker available.
Wait what? How are you able to power this up???
Magic!
Have had mine for two years. Never a problem. 11 pounds, strong aluminum construction. A little more money you can get the solar panel. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CYMCLDN/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_6?smid=ATW4RRWB3JMSM&psc=1
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Could you say how long does the battery last? Thanks
@@decarlophoto1975 I've never done a long term test. The battery has five bars. After one hour at loud volume it went down 1 bar. The louder you play the faster it will drain. If you play at lower volumes it will last longer.
@@decarlophoto1975 I read, expect one hour less of play time for every 10dB increase. 80db - 7hrs. 90dB- 6hrs 100db -5-41/2hrs 110db - jumps down to 2 hours.
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Well after 2 years from making this video we have a new King of Bluetooth dB!
New RCF ART 915 Ax at 131dB wins! But it goes down to 45Hz vs 37dB of Sub2. At 49 lbs it is hardly portable. For me Pro32/Sub2 is still the winner!
Watch this video: Pro32 running half stack, one column with super light 22 lbs SVS subwoofer! czcams.com/video/O5n5IBWN49E/video.html
128DB rating is one white at 1 m. You didn’t have your SPL meter anywhere near 1 m away.
1 watt/1 meter
I agree it was nowhere near 128db and I didn't test at one meter because in a live situation few people will stand one meter from the speaker. My results are for real world situations so people can compare them to other speakers. First I mentioned I was in a public park, second it was outside and no company measures max dB outside. In fact when companies give you max SPL stats, that's from specially treated acoustic rooms and will be almost impossible to reproduce by the consumer. Last this system is brand new over $3,000+ and I will not push it to its max for the sake of a CZcams video. The best we can go on is the manufactures specs. Thanks for your feedback.
Portable?? Do you mean I don't need an external power source??
Sorry, I should clarify. Portable meaning super light weight for the performance. You will need an external power source. My current choice, Ecoflow Prowww.amazon.com/gp/product/B08T1KY8SG/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_3?smid=AH59O987TZWZR&th=1
You never played music
Rewind to 11:00? 107dB