Dutch Mantell on Firing Jim Cornette as His Manager!
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- Dutch Mantell on Firing Jim Cornette as His Manager!
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That would be great to have Cornette on the show with Dutch.
nailed it. put some kayyfabe and some heat into a work lol and put one over us all.
Dutch is responsible for two of the most memorable interviews of that time period in Memphis. Firing Cornette which they are talking about, and his interview after coming in to save the "good guys" when Tojo Yamamoto's team where beating them down and disrespecting the flag. He talked about going to Vietnam and how he couldn't just stand by and let foreigners disrespect America. That promo was integral in Dutch becoming a mainstay in Memphis for the next 10 to 15 years. People need to go back and see how really good Dutch was in the early 80s. He was one of the fastest wrestlers I've ever seen. No one was better at running down the isle, diving into the ring and come up throwing fist.
100% agree. Dutch (and possibly Bobby Eaton) threw the best in-ring punches around.
I would pay good money to watch Dutch and Cornette debate politics.
The messed up thing with Corny is he always came off as someone that wasn't as big as you might expect him to be in person. Just that look and his demeanor, he made it so you just wanted to strangle the guy "This puny a*shole!" but he's actually 6ft tall lol
He's only little compared to wrestlers 😆
Yes but he is pudding bodied . Soft as a sink sponge .
I'd like to think we'd have seen a more positive Cornette over the years had Dutch been a little more understanding about the DQ. Instead, he ripped up that picture and contract right in front of God and Mama Cornette and Jimmy was never the same again.
Turned him hard-core Democrat, just to get back at Dutch. 🤣
@@naturallawman2965 why does everything have to do with politics. Fuckin suck of it!
Dutch and corny would be amazing . Austin said Dutch taught him almost everything he knows.
My politics would not be the same as Dutch Mantell's either, but I do admire him in that he acknowledges this in regards to Cornette, and yet they both can still co-exist. I wish this was the case more often, not everything has to be about politics.
Thats EXACTLY how you keep friendships... I kmow Yall saw how Corny flipped when Kane decided to vocalize his political views...
I'm curious what Dutch's political leanings are.
@@mandolinman2006 The opposite from Cornette. If you know what Cornette has said during podcasts about politics then just turn them around and that would be Dutch's views.
@@TheEWFX29 yes and no. You can be a center-leaning republican or democratic and see the value in the other side. For example, I’m a registered democratic but see that Biden has helped destroy this country and as much as I hate to give him credit, Trump had jobs for us, costs were low, we weren’t involved in wars, etc. So even though I vote Democrat (or abstain), I can see the merits in the other side as well.
Its because when Dutch discusses politics he keeps a level head doesn’t get all trolly and be like “Lol fuck your feelings.” Dutch is capable of handling a real discussion without getting heated
Jim Cornette was ONE OF MY FAVES! I GOT suspended bc of Jim Cornette. I was in 5th Grade, and this bully kept bullying my friend. When I took up for my friend, he started bowing up. My Dad always told me "if you KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO FIGHT, PUNCH FIRST AND HIT THEM RIGHT IN THE NOSE AS HARD AS YOU CAN!" I did that, but then grabbed him and took him down. He was screaming about his nose, so when I had him pinned down, I thumped his nose! Jim had been thumping people's noses on TV, so I decided to end the fight with a nose thumping! I NEVER EVER got into another fight the rest of my school years because of this "victory." Everyone assumed I was some "bad ass," but I was really just someone that my Dad taught to defend myself...and I am not sure I could of took this guy without the initial hit to nose! I think it caught him completely off guard bc he was doing that whole bowing up thing where he keeps pushing his chest up against you talking. He was all talk, but I am glad I kicked his ass! He had terrorized my friend and others, and that stopped that day! He was still a prick to many, but never said another word to any of my people.
That's funny. I have a similar story. Someone stole my jacket on a basketball court, wore it while we continued playing thinking I wouldn't do anything; I chest passed to his face and commenced to beat his ass until I got my jacket back. I was known as the school nerd and he was a "cool kid" in comparison. No one knew I was doing martial arts on the side. When they found out, I was promoted to "cool kid" where I immediately told everyone who didn't know me before to summarily fuck all the way off.
@@phxsisko AWESOME! It is ashame that parents do not teach their kids to do the same rather than act like giant pu&&ies and go shooting up their classmates or I guess the super small kids now with the sickening Uvalde shooting! That crap never happened in my era! We settled it with fists, although their was a stabbing my 9th grade year! I was one of the smallest kids by then weighing a buck ten soaking wet as other kids started to grow, but not me. I was the smallest kid in the Senior Class. The soccer team called me Munchkin ...an apposing Coach told the newspaper that he was not going to let "their tiny, little munchkin beat us!" We kicked their butt! I was small, but I was a great soccer player starting for varsity team while still in middle school....but I wanted to be a PROFESSIONAL WRESTLER! THERE wasn't even a weight division for me! smdh I sucked at every other sport! haha., but soccer got me a full ride to a smaller college in Charleston, SC so f it! --which I did----flunking out after the 2nd semester! haha I got into full time radio by 18, so never went to a class 2nd semester but did not botehr to withdraw for whatever reason to save a semester of straight Fs! I ended up going back during a radio hiatus, and doing much much better when I was "Mature" I guess. The whole "we do not care if you come or not" made getting up for early classes after a night of partying completely not appealing! I ended up with a big ole STUDENT LOAN I WISH I HAD NOT PAID OFF NOW! I AM SO ANGRY AND JEALOUS ABOUT THE STUDENT LOANS GETTING PAID OFF BY THE GOVERNMENT! I AM SALTY AF OVER IT! COMPLETE ENVY AND JEALOUSLY THOUGH!
Glad you got him! Was hoping you ambushed him with a loaded racket, but still a great story!! :>)
What year did this happen.makes me miss my childhood.
Doesn’t matter if your politics are polar opposite. You both produced great matches and television.
Preach it, brother!
"Jim cornette is our most requested" thats the sign for good ole unca dave to show up
I'm from Louisville Kentucky, Cornette's hometown. Off topic, but Cornette has always been cool when I've met him. Early OVW days he was always there.
Funny story. OVW back in the early 2000's would raffle off prizes. Some would be sign WWE items. One night as a joke they raffled off a Sprite can that Cornette had been drinking out of. My late best friend won it. And Cornette said "You have to drink the rest."
My friend being so easy going did. Cornette on the mic said "I was joking."
The tape of Cornette’s first manager gig was very very different than what he would become. He definitely worked on it
As a kid i hated Jim!!!!😡😡😡😡
Man he has the gift though!!!!
Even his first promos on Memphis tv he came across so calm and well spoken, it’s like baby Cornette was on Valium.
That Valium must’ve worn off before he made the move to MidSouth. I don’t ever remember Corny being laidback.
Amazing pre lunatic Memphis Promo of sorts where the very young Wrestling Photographer Jim Cornette presents Memphis Legend Jackie Fargo with a Lifetime Achievement Award. And the award wasn't smashed over Jackie's head and Jim was incredibly placid.🤔🎤🎼🎸📸🤼♂️B.W.
@@SonnyBubbayeah at first he was super chill actually pretty boring tbh but I guess over time he found his footing getting more comfortable an experienced an the booker started making him more unhinged lol
Would love to hear Dutch and Lawler podcasting together some day.
Jim cornette started in Memphis first then he went to Mid-South then he went to wccw then the mid Atlantic.
He had an all too momentary stint for The Fullers in Continental at the same time that Eddie Gilbert and Missy Hyatt and The Midnight Rockers with this guy named Shawn Michaels appeared there.🤔😉🎤🎾🤼♂️B.W.
Love how he considers him a friend despite noting they don't agree on politics.
Miss how people used to be able to do this.
Rock N Roll Express went to Crockett, first, and then the Midnights came in, working the Georgia end first, before they brought them together. Georgia and Mid-Atlantic were kept apart, at the start of Crockett's buy-out, before they integrated the whole thing.
In Memphis, Cornette managed Sherri Martel, Jesse Barr, Dutch, and The Galaxians (Ken Wayne and Danny Davis, before they became The Nightmares). For the short-lived Georgia Superstars spin-off, of GCW, he managed The Angel & The Bounty Hunter and Norman Frederick Charles the II & King Carl Fergie. That was the Memphis group that Ole brought in to work more of the Georgia towns, while their crew was doing Ohio, Michigan and West Virginia. Bill Dundee booked and was lead babyface and Bobby Fulton & Terry Taylor were the babyface tag-team, The Fantastic Ones, doing a Fabs rip-off. They had their own tv and clips were shown, on WTBS, on the Sunday Best of World Championship Wrestling. That was my intro to Corny, after seeing him in the Apter mags, with the Galaxians.
Actually the Rock and Rolls preceded the Midnights in Crockett. In fact, Ricky and Robert were working the Carolinas end of Crockett and the Corny and the Midnights worked in the Atlanta portion and both teams were kept apart for months until January of 1986 after the merger of Mid Atlantic and Georgia was finalized.
The Rock n Roll and the Midnight were a huge deal in MidSourh in 84.
And the whole thing started with a cake.
I started watching wrestling in Louisville around 82, one of my first memories was watching Cornette being chased around the ring by Dutch and his bullwhip, never knew why Dutch kept chasing him. After Dutch Jim managed the oddball team of Jesse Barr & Adrian Street followed by The Galaxians, Ken Wayne & Danny Davis under masks.
Thats killer ! I grew up in lexington and watched some stuff go down . But you were a few years before me though . You got to see the great stuff !!! 85 was when i was old enough to attend and watch !
My dream wrestling podcast would be Dutch and Jim Cornette.
If we are dreaming, let’s throw JR in at some point too.
he managed Jesse Barr to. I believe Jimmy first clients were Sherri and Jesse Barr
Dutch was third choice. Cornette tried to get Lawler first and was laughed off television. Then he tried to get Dundee and Bill said heck no because you aren't going to make me second choice to anyone.
The Momma's Boy gimmick that Cornette used to play as a manager during his Midnight Express years was funny as hell but also a great heat magnet.
The idea that if the Midnight Express was winning matches and had belts around their wastes "Momma was happy!" and if the Midnight Express was losing matches and didn't have belts around their wastes "Momma wasn't happy! And if Momma ain't happy then nobody is happy!" lol.
If Momma was happy "little Jimmy" got a nice allowance, the boys got invited over for fried chicken and apple pie! If Momma wasn't happy no allowance for Jimmy and no fried chicken and apple pie for the boys. THAT SHIT IS CLASSIC BWAHAHAHA!!!
Throw in that loud mouth of Jim Cornette with the loud suits and the tennis racket and a rather "flexible bending of the rules" especially where that tennis racket was concerned along with the whole Momma's Boy gimmick... Jimmy Cornette GREAT HEEL CHARACTER!
Jimmy is a great wrasslin psychologist
What was the big mistake Cornette made?
Cornette jumped into the ring and started fussing at the referee, which cost Dutch the match
I can remember (barely) Dutch and Tojo and Jimmy Golden and a bunch more on Saturday mornings in the early to mid 70s doing Birmingham AL wrestling. One of the few things I remember from that time. I couldn't have been but around 5 or 6
I seen that a few times. Poor Jimmy. LOL!
I would never put Jim in a role where he dealt directly with people . He makes a great consultant but he is not suited to working with talent . If I had a wrestling company Jim would definitely be an asset I would seek but in a limited manner .
In politics, Cornette supports the type of people and ideals he hates in wrestling.
No way is TGBL gonna share his golden goose!
Would be nice tho.
Jim cornette would be a GREAT guest for you... You may not get to speak much, but the stories that man has...
Was just thinking, you should call this channel something with the word dirty. Like Dirty Stories or Dirty Time with Dutch Mantell.... Or just thought of Gettin' Dirty with Dutch Mantell... No credit needed. Take it if you want it 😁👍
HAHAHA ! Awesome you said that Dutch ! I agree with Corny on EVERYTHING damn near except political views ! But to each their own ! When it comes to wrestling im 90% on board . I like AEW more than he does but he is on point about a lot thats wrong with em .
You might be right, if you wamt it up the butt from Trump, its your decision in the end, again , and again , and again
I feel like Bill Watts wasted his time with Dutch . I remember Dutch came in with no fan fare , worked no angles and was never interviewed . He was always a second or third match guy . He never got the chance to get over . Dutch was a selling machine but I only saw him beating a jobber or jobbing to too guys . I did not think much of him until I relatively recently got to see his work in Memphis . What a missed opportunity and I am pretty sure it’s mostly because Dutch was not very big . Watts had a hardon for big guys .
What about farmer Marlin what was he like to wrestle
plot twist - Cornette's politics are all a work
Wouldn't surprise me.
All of his podcast episodes where he is ripping the new talent, it could all be a work. We don't know.
I'm same way I agree with just about everything corney says but not his politics we not even close in that department when he talk politics I turn it LOL
Corny can't make it through one podcast without talking about Trump and Republicans a dozen times. He has the worst case of Trump Derangement Syndrome that I've ever seen.
reminds me of the three stooges... the press had buttons that said press, stooges wanted in so they had press, press pull from a machine lol... great story
Thanks Dutch, Jimmy's politics make me ill as he suffers from TDS, but professionally, I respect him wholeheartedly. Great advice as to avoid this topic to keep a friend.
Its honestly weird he of all people has TDS, but ya... I love to listen to him talk business.
He's a cool guy. I'm from Louisville and met him probably 20 times during his OVW days. I don't like 80% of his politics, but whatever. We as humans need to understand not everyone agrees with everything we believe.
@@t-rex_tion9612 it's not weird Cornette is an old Southern Democrat. He comes from old money (I believe his father used to own one of the newspapers in Louisville.) He's in his early 60's and is the prime age for TDS.
I just skip his politics because they're more often than not incoherent and borderline ramblings. Jim should simply stick to wrestling and wrestlers not politicians and politics.
@@MetlKen87 on paper, that's not a good thing to be lol
I'm from Possum Trot, KY. State is fairly mixed in terms of politics. Him being from the city, doesn't surprise me he's a democrat.
Yea I respect what Jimmy has done for wrestling but I for the life of me can’t sit there and hear him talk shit about religion and politics. That’s personal and should be off limits. If he wouldn’t do that I could literally listen to him all day tell story’s about wrestling that he has witnessed.
"Pull" Ahem...Ahem
I just watched this. excellent angle. Jimmy was great even when he started. How did Downtown Bruno make it cause he sucked when he first started lol.
Dutch- do I owe you money?
There's some trivia I didn't know. Jimmy Cornette's first wrestler he managed was Sherry Martel
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I wouldn't want to screw up in front of Dutch. When he looks into the camera I lost it.....and lmao!
I've beat up Cornette 568 times!!!
I wish the interviewer would sing My Money Don't Jiggle Jiggle
🤣🤣🤣
I like the way Dutch said they’re politics are different…..good stuff. Hey Jimmy……Let’s go Brandon….FJB…..😆
Don’t get me wrong people, I love Cornette. He has a one of a kind mind for the business. But, also has a terrible case of T.D.S.
Jim had no father figure and he bought into the whole counterculture aspect of rebelling against conservative culture. He hasn't realized that narrative is gone. Now he's a neoliberal to the new commie liberals and can never be woke enough to satisfy them. Jimmy watches his CNN and thinks he knows the score.
I'm sure Cornette is very bothered by a grown man censoring himself with abbreviations. Terrifying.
@@aaronduncan8737 not meant to bother him. 🙄
Let go of your Biden Derangement Syndrome before calling others out on their politics.
@@obredaanps3 who the fuck is Biden?
Cornette always to myself very funny but he don't mean to be funny at all. And that will just bust you laughing out more.
He means to be funny. Every bit of that shit is intentional.
I use to think Cornette was smart until I heard him talk about politics.
What I never understood was back then you lived the gimmic right? especially in public!, now when james e ``I married sloth from goonies`` cornette played the rich mama`s boy! why was he running around with an obvious missing tooth!! lol , he`s gonna! wright cheques to by wrestlers he screamed an bitched about how rich he was an one of his front teeth were missing!? lol never got it!, lol gbua
I'm still convinced Cornette liberal crying is a work to get heat.
@Justin Ledvina I’m convinced that your mom and dad are also brother and sister.
@@wilcee238 ok weirdo
So what
You think so?
Never thought of that, but I don't see why at this point he would need to get that kind of heat on himself.
I love jimmy it I could do without his politics. I’m not American and never going there, so I don’t care how Americans feel about their politics. I’m listening to a wrestling podcast for wrestling. Not political analysis.
Jim Cornette's only role in wrestling should have been Kayfabe management . No way is that OCD laden control freak with a short fuse and a death wish cut out for actually managing talent . Not on the real side .
Dutch seems too smart to be a trump supporter.
What was/is everyone's fascination with Jim Cornette ?He's always been a little dweeb.Weirdo if you will.
Are you wearing makeup James
It's too bad Dutch is a right-winger - we need more on the political left in wrestling. Need to push for healthcare and rights for wrestlers and right-wingers will never do this (see also Vince). These guys are not "independent contractors" they are employees. Corny at least saw the need for it, even though he's a lipstick liberal.
" it's too bad people are different than me "
Fixed it for you .
@@iancormier7550 🤣
It's always a bit amusing listening to talk of the American political spectrum. In actuality you just have shades of conservatism, there is no real left or even centre in your country. This is why you are still a good 20 years behind the rest of the major economies in terms of social concerns, social equality and social harmony.. Well, to be fair, you are at about the same level as Turkey, but that's like being the best looking man in the burns unit. Now that you have re-outlawed abortion, there's noise about repealing same-sex marriage. You folks are too hilarious. Maybe if you work hard you can go back to arresting gays for being gay. You are steadily moving backwards, which will result in even more conflict. You can thank your churches for that one. I rather hope that Trump is re-elected, that should bring the death knell for the American experiment. Not to mention provide 4 more years of outstanding comedy. I wonder if he will release that health care plan he's been sitting on for 5 or 6 years. Or did he (gasp) lie about that too.
@@iancormier7550 - No, you oversimplified it like a dumbass conservative would, because to a conservative, a Nazi has the same moral and ethical ground as a liberal.
@@milesalpha1 - 100% correct. Anything even remotely to the left in America is deemed either "evil socialism" or "evil communism" and most Americans can't even tell you the definition of those things they think are evil. We are a pro-military war nation that has a large population that thinks everyone should believe the same religion as them. That's about as right-wing as it gets.
As soon as Bernie Sanders (SocDem) got even remotely close to being a candidate in 2016, the establishment crushed him and cheated him out of the primary.
i'd watch wwf between girlfriends beginning about 1985 early spring when it just appeared on one of the cable stations. never saw dutch but on you tube. he was buff and a mans man. i watchd thru the attitude era but got anoher babe around goldberg. never saw nash or the kliq. but i still do the crotch chop