WORST AUTOMATIC EVER?! | Abarth 595 Competizione
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- The title says it all...This video shows you what the automatic Abarth 595 Competizione is like! I think you're going to be as shocked as I was!
FYI, if you're thinking of buying an auto Abarth 595, make sure you test drive it first!
Check out the review of this Abarth 595 here:
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I own an Abarth auto and it’s awesome. Just like anything in life it needs getting used to. Also remember it’s an AMT and not a torque converter single clutch box. The car has a two second hill decent function which is so wrongly portrayed in the video. For a person who knows how to drive it’s has what is needed. If it wasn’t there car would roll back on an incline and it doesn’t.
Exactly where i was looking for, thanks!
As per many other comments: it's a manual gearbox with a robotised clutch and shifting. Autoimode is pretty sh*t, but if you only drive it in manual and tell it when to change gears it is actually magic- I like this WAY more than the dual clutch or torque converter gearboxes. This is a gearbox for people who would rather have had a manual but for whatever reason ( eg me with a gammy leg) cant use the clutch. Upshifts are fine when you change JUST like a manual ie lift off throttle. I think it's actually smoother than me using the clutch- which says more about me than the car!
Start engine. Then press 1, drive away. Come to a stop press N, then R to reverse. :)
I wish it was that easy mine gets stuck on N after i R then I have to keep turning engine of and on until car decides to behave lol .I never have one if these cars again.pain in ass
I have the regular turbo one and no one ever makes videos on them so I can’t see what modifications are good.
I have a 2018 model. The worst feature apart from only 5 gears is the car changing up going into corners even when I've downshifted meaning you have no power
Great video for those Interested in the MTA abarth . I agree it seems the gearbox is quite sluggish and slow which is disappointing. My automatic 124 Abarth shifts quite quickly when in sport mode.
Just to correct you, Audi’s Stronic gearbox is in fact a dual clutch, it is one of the best autos you can get!
I’m glad that it’s interesting! It also will be down to what I’ve driven before but I think overall it could be better :) oh okay, very nice! I do love the look of a 124!
The 124 with an auto is just a normal 6 speed torque converter from Mazda Mx-5 Nc generation.
Is the gear box not the same on the 124? It’s not a Mazda gearbox
I think you are comparing it to a torque converter but the MTA (like the regular 500 dualogic) is an older and different kind of gearbox straight from the 90s where the clutch is operated just like in a manual (disengaged -> gear -> engaged) but electronically. Thanks for the video, i'm glad i got a manual hahah
Oh that makes total sense! I’m glad you got the manual too! Aha glad you liked it though :)
Good Review!!
seems like fun to me
thanks for the video! I was at the dealership today; very tempted by their offer for the 2019 competizione 595; automatic or (MTA). my questions, is it reliable for everyday drive of 7Km to work and 7km back; or reliability will be compromised. I sincerely appreciate a feedback as I'm making a decision between this car and a 2018 alfa guilietta veloce
Hiya, Great to hear! So I have done my 20 mile round trip and I haven’t seen any sign of comprise however I don’t know that journey consistently enough to know! If it is a new car, you would get the warranty which is the main thing in my opinion! Hope this helps
@@LifeInMotionuk thank you for the feedback! So you're driving it everyday and no issues so far? Also the jerky gearbox, according to your experience and research is it reliable giving how bumpy and harsh it is?
Youssef Roukoz unfortunately I’m not using it everyday but no troubles so far! Gearbox does seem have any trouble either but I would make sure you’re driving carefully when change from drive to reverse
@@LifeInMotionuk very well noted ! thank you very much for the advice!
If you are in stop-start traffic the auto is ideal as it so much easier than a manual. Thats why I got the auto in my competzione. I cannot stress enough to drive it in sports mode in auto BUT use the paddles to drive it like a manual AND take the power off as you change. It really comes into its own then. Huge fun. I would have no hesitation in getting an auto again, simply because if I use it in traffic the auto is so much easier than the manual.
My 2002 Alfa 156 has the same semi auto type gearbox with paddles and I find it much easier to drive than any old type manual. I have with 60 years of experience found it gives you the best of both worlds.
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maverikshooter I’ll have a look, cheers 👍🏻
So the quickest way to change gears here manually if I understand it correctly, is to accelerate then take your foot of the accelerator, change gear and then step back on the accelerator?
That appears to be the smoothest way to change gear, yes - if you put your foot door, whilst in sport, and change gear with the paddles without taking off, that should be the quickest way although if isn’t always that smooth
@@LifeInMotionuk I see, so the normal way is still the quickest but not the smoothest. Thanks for clarifying. And if you drive it on auto and put it in sport you will still get the same acceleration but less control if I understand it correctly?
Yes, I think I understand you correctly - you still get that acceleration however it may not change gear when you’d like it do, and not the most comfortably!
I found the explanation of the gearbox buttons very confusing. Also, he said "why would you put it in neutral". Well, what about waiting at the lights, or parking up? And later he referred to "put it in sport". How? I didn't see a "sport" button.
Sport has a button on the dash next to the hazard light button
Per other folks comments - it's neither a full automatic nor a dual-clutch (the 4c has a dual-clutch box, so don't compare); it is a robotized manual....so you won't ever get the creep like you do in a full auto when you take foot off the brake.
What it does allow you to do, is drive easily in "Auto-mode" - for example around town when it's stop-start or, say if your wife/partner wants to pop out and just wants to get from A - B and isn't really interested in extracting anything other than a safe journey.
It can be fun in sport and manual - and your 'tips' apply equally to an Aston Martin Vantage with the auto-box
I have both a manual 695 Rivale in UK and an MTA in Spain - they are both great for what they do. Would a 6-speed DCT in the car be great, yes of course, but as a little buzz box to put a smile on your face, they can't be beaten and you adapt to each. By the way - the gearbox software adapts to your driving style too.
See I need people like you - I’ve learn’t more from people’s comments than I did on the internet! Now I know what it does creep forward ☺️
Actually just adding on, I had no idea the software adapts to your driving style! I agree though, I do find myself just popping to the shops and things in it! I would love to hear a 695 in person!
why are you so rich?
@@LifeInMotionuk Thats why its important to learn a bit about the car you are test driving. Drive it then search, then make the video if possible.
Nobody buys an abarth because it’s a good car, people buy them because they’re ridiculous and fun
Hmmmm .................. you drove it outside of Sports Mode! Thats more than a bit Sus. As everyone has said, put it in Sports and in Auto and drive it like a manual with the paddles. Most importantly take the power off as you change. This is actually recommended to protect the gearbox. If you do all that its a great fun car and you can work the gears up and down just like with a manual without the hassel of having to muck around with a clutch. The reason I got an auto is because in terms of manual fun - anticpating the gear you want - its the same, but when you get into stop-start traffic you can relax and just let the automatic let you creep along without exhausting yourself slipping the clutch in and out all the time. The only real downside of the auto is the slower start relative to a manul if you really want to really fang it.
I got an automatic driving license and fell in love with cars 2 years after I got my license
So im thinking about buying that car in automatic gearbox, so shouldn’t I ?
It looks like a lot of fun to be honest.
I would definitely go for a test drive to see what you think!
Last question which I cannot find anywhere. Is the automatic a lot slower in pull away from the manual or the differences or minor? Say green light short race on the street against a manual.
Okay, I am not quite sure - I believe the automotive is supposed to be quicker, however I would say the manual would be the more responsive car, because you are controlling the gears
So performance wise its much of a muchness. Okay cool
@@LifeInMotionuk All these questions is because in South Africa I can buy the automatic version second hand much cheaper than the manual version as nobody wants them. We talking around 3000 pounds less for the automatic. In such circumstances would you advise I go for the automatic?
Okay, I would say take an auto for a test drive and see how you feel. Personally, the manual is the better car for me and I would try waiting for one in budget to appear
I have an American Abarth auto with the slappy handle...no complaints here
Does everything it said on the tin
Sloppy handle in America, how
Great stuff👍😀
Thanks!
Thanks, this is useful, I was gonna test drive one but don't think ill bother.
Awesome to hear! Glad it helps
@@LifeInMotionuk i did enjoy the manual i test drove, but coming from a VW DSG this box would drive me a bit mad 🤣
Yeah I think the manual is a good car:) ah yeah that’s going to show it up!
Yep. I owned a Fiat 500 S auto. Loved thr car but the duallogic gear was a deal break
they obviously had no room to put manual linkage, in which would be awesome.. im sure you could figure out how to make it work.. i bought a manual and it is gREAAAT
S tronic is a duel clutch has been since vw used the dsg because it's vw group, that is why its a quick box
You only have to press the Sport button one time in a t jet engine. Is to activate it when you buy it. Bravo Tjet since 2008 sport always on.
@ekim andersom ? What do you mean?
I didnt understand whats this guy talking about in this video...anyway i appreciate any effort for these test videos...but i want to say that i have the both cars since 2011...abarth and bravo sport till this day i have no any problems with both cars and they are both auto dualogic...i love them forever i never accept manual transmission in my life...never
I'm still gonna get it. I want an Abarth 500, and I love driving automatic. I can drive manual, I do now, but I have driven my mom's automatic and it's so comfortable for daily regular driving
And I think it's honestly pretty fun that the car changes gears so late. It's supposed to be fun, not perfect.
Hey man, I've owned an abarth in 2017 and I loved how much control I had over bang, I just had to hit 3000-4000 then hard push on the clutch and I almost always had a nice bang.
I'm wondering how is this happening under an automatic gearbox ? Pretty random right ?
Oh okay interesting! So the pops and bangs don’t really happy on the 595 I have - I mean sometimes I hear one or two but can’t seem to get it going! My JCW is rather crazy for it though! Hope you’re enjoy your car :)
Is the gearbox quick in manual mode?
Yes, I have the regular turbo fiat and it’s fun and zippy
I have driven a Fiat 500 automatic and it has same problems!
Great video with very informative details.
Subscribed. 👍
TheGolfdaily yeah? It’s an interesting one! Oh amazing, thank you!!
I drove for several months a Fiat Panda 1.2 Dualogic (which uses the very same Magneti Marelli "Selespeed" system as the Abarth 595 Competizione) and, honestly, I find it a perfect alternative to a classic automatic transmission. In many ways, I find it vastly superior to a conventional automatic, also because it can be fixed by every Fiat service facility, with no special tools. A conventional automatic transmission is infinitely more complicated.
At a very high price😀
The S tronic gear box is a dual-clutch mate.
Tim A yeah, I’ve now learnt a lot about the Abarth box! Certainly prefer dual-clutch!
still shifts slower than a turtle
Use Neutral at the lights, and that thing called a handbrake. It means you dont just rest on the brake pedal burning the retinas out of the poor guy behind.
Truer words have never been spoken. Especially with high end luxury cars getting laser taillights now, and at night, sometimes I need my sunglasses. Lol.
The fiat is a single clutch manual with a robotic selector. The 4c is a dual clutch dry type. The Audi TT is a wet DSG dual clutch.
Anyone had any reliability issues with gearbox?
Lewis Boote I did haven’t had anyone comment saying there has been - I haven’t 🧐
Life In Motion thanks for your reply,
Was just in a dilemma as my girlfriend (Not a petrol head😂) can only drive auto cars. She could do with a budget small fairly nippy car, that has a reliable automatic gearbox.
So the Abarth sprung to mind, but I was concerned about the gearbox as they have discontinued the automatic gearbox unfortunately...
If you have any similar suggestions then I would be very grateful?
Lewis Boote not a problem! Okay, sounds good - well, honestly the Mini auto’s are very good so possible a Mini Cooper 1.5 petrol auto would work? On the flip side, I used to drive an Audi A1 which had a good auto box ( S Tronic)! Maybe have a look online, I’m sure there’s a magazine that has done something about the best automatic small cars! Hope that helps ☺️ also, it would be great if you can subscribe! Thanks 🙌🏻
Life In Motion Thanks for your reply buddy, much appreciated. No worries, I have subbed. This is good content👍👍
Lewis Boote not a problem :) amazing, I’ve just seen - really appreciate it, thanks 👌🏻
In disabled lost an arm in s bike accident 30 years ago, you should try my 80k miles fabia vrs, awesome gearbox and great fun to drive again finally.
I’m sorry to hear that David - you know I’ve never actually driven a Skoda! Although a colleague has one and can’t get enough - awesome to hear, if ever I have the opportunity, I’ll give it a go ☺️
Wish I‘d seen this video before I started a 2 year lease on my Rivale 695. Fun but crap gearbox, exactly as you said.
You should review this for what it is… a manual box with automated clutch. This is a very reasonably priced car, adapting another gearbox for the 500 would not have made sense… At least there is an auto option for those who cant drive manually for whatever reason.
Check out Bilal Abarth with this gearbox and then tell me something. Running on 310bhp.
Drove a manual one yesterday. I guess I changed gear faster than that Sequential gearbox lol
F00king LasRsights nice!
@@LifeInMotionuk It's just so right to drive it in manual box lol
I had one of these as a loaner the other day and I have to say I agree 100% with what you are saying. I could not believe how bad the gearbox was. My wife's Honda Jazz with a CVT gearbox is nicer to drive around town. If they used the same dual clutch transmission in that Alfa uses in the Giulietta then the 595 Abarth would be a much better car.
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What about the Clio RS 200, that gear box it's worst
Hey Carlos, why would you say that about Clio's RS 200 gearbox? It's a dual clutch box compared to Abarth's old school single clutch automated manual, there is no way it's worse
Honestly I’ve never driven a Clio but if Renault can let me have one, I’ll let you know ;)
@@alenalavanja6543 i had two of them honestly the Abarth was manual, but the gear box in the Clio is terrible thats what I say this gearbox it's worst even with the dual clutch , yes you right the Abarth has a single clutch, but also i had the polo GTI and i have to say that the DSG it's better by far than the Clio's, and come one if you buy an Abarth it has to be manual, the automatic it's horrible.
it works better if you think of it as an automated manual shifting process. lift the gas a little for a short time when pressing a paddle. it's a little better then. but come on, you can get them for 20k brand new in 2024 (at least at my local dealer). you won't get a dual clutch gearbox for this pricetag.
He CARRIES ON TOOOOOOO Much.
Thanks, great honest review. I'm looking for an Abarth as a daily and this has confirmed what I thought...avoid the auto! Cheers dude!
Super, glad it was useful!
nobody in the UK worried at all with a dog or cat running out from the hedge? what the hell everyone drives like they are expecting nothing to run out ...only country i see drivers like this ...
Mega expensive when they go wrong also! Think it’s the gearbox actuator that goes on them.
Currently own a 595 (see profile pic) and do love it. Nearly owned 3 years now but I have a dilemma. I'm in need of an auto (health issues 😥) was going to upgrade to another abarth but auto. But your right the gearbox is 💩. Question is tho. What do I upgrade to???? Budget is £15k must be fun but also auto???
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craig smith awesome, looks good! Sorry to hear about your health issues - it’s a really tricky question, honestly a Mini Cooper S auto would be a good choice but also I know the Audi A1 S Tronic gearbox’s are great! It’s tough because not many small calls have good auto’s! Thanks for subscribing 👌🏻
Clio rs trophy?
william smith never driven one but I’ve heard good things - not my style though
@@LifeInMotionuk
Got myself a 2016 clio rs200 edc (dual clutch auto) picked it up on sat and I'm loving it. 😎
You really need to drive 1 for your channel 👍
What is being chosen now? 💪
I love Automatic in Abarth, but run always with shift paddles.
lived in Asia and you will never ever see a manual Arbath
Why don't they use the C635 dual-clutch? It's way faster and can handle 350 nm of torque.
A very good question !
This is AMT, automated manual transmission. Can not be compared to conventional automatic gearbox.
They should bring this one to America I want to buy it
5:30 they hired VTEC fan to build this.. there is no other explanation 😂
I think this sums up that I go for manual. ta
I think you’d be pleased! Try both if you can 👍🏻
I can’t understand road testing one of the best hot hatches on the market in automatic form. Abarth make less than 4% for the disabled market. Who buys a pocket rocket auto? Review proper cars that do as they say! Not malign a proper car that caters for the few. Best thing you said was buy a manual. The other 99% was diatribe shite young man. Review a car for what it is not what it’s been adapted to do. The airways are full of negativity. Next week do a Fiesta ST Auto eh! Kick the shit out of that gearbox.i/ we/us don’t need your early learning days opinion on auto’s. I know they’re shite and don’t need you to tell me that. Test abilities not inabilities.
Think you need to read up on what a dual clutch auto is vs a manual with a robotised clutch. 4c has a dual clutch, s-tronic is a dual clutch. If you are going to go into technicalities, at least do the research
You dont explain how the gearbox works in a clear manner,,,,
You can also remap the gearbox and it will change it completely
Very good to know!
Can you point me to any information on this please? Thanks.
great video, I'd only suggest more engine note and less music
Thanks, and noted!
That’s a semi auto they all are jerky and shit , I’ve had a few
They are what they are semi auto .. they all do that no matter the make
What's all that plastic in the back
I guess you mean the splitter bit? Trying to make it more sporty I think !
@@LifeInMotionuk Splitter ??? I'm on about where the back seats should be
@@johnathanbyard8317 oh that’s a dog guard, I removed the seats and installed it so the dog wouldn’t ruin the boot
@@LifeInMotionuk oh right didn't realise you could buy dog guards for them, I've learnt something new today, thank you
Well being honest you can’t really, it was actually from another car that I adapted to fit 👍🏻
there is no single clutch automatic dude, automatics have a stator and rotor and couple over hydraulic fluid, clutches are in manual gearboxes or double clutch gearboxes. There are also automised manual gearboxes, dct, mct, sequential etc... but automatic has no clutch. This sounds like a automised manual gearbox to me, in other words it a manual gearbox with a robotised clutch, which sucks
Neutral to park it.before you explain it you need to understand it which clearly you dont
My 2015 shifts lightning fast.. maybe something wrong with your tester
JR Tortellini really? That’s strange!
Ya I'm being serious. I have the 6speed auto zf transmission. I guess they changed after 2015 transmissions. Standard abarth tho. In usa we do t get the great options.
I guess I shouldnt say lightning fast but enough that people say it sounds like a motorcycle and sounds amazing shifting. The new one we test drove last year as well shifted really quick as well. I wonder if we are getting totally different cars
Payouts might well be! And I can’t imagine we’re just used to different automatics so must be different
@@jrtortellini2540, in the US, we have the AISIN auto, not the ZF, the same one in the 500 Pop. The EU gets the MTA DuaLogic, and that's a single clutch automated manual, the same one in the 4C.
The music in this vid is worse than the gearbox pal!
You should drive the bmw dsg gearbox , they were real crap and in the beginning only available in the performance models , they died a sudden death , thats how bad they were , I was offered a test drive in the then M3 With that rubbish gearbox , I got as far as the first uphill gradient traffic light and as soon as I took my foot off the brake to touch the throttle it started rolling back , out of control , I pulled up the handbrake , got out and walked back to the dealership to get back into my manual 400kw (on the back wheels )AC Cobra replica , only to see the sorry salesman still trying to drive the piece of rubbish back in heavy traffic as I left like a bat out of hell , at that time I was a motor dealer and I refused to allow that rubbish gearbox on my floor and refused to trade one in or buy as a stock item from BMW , that box in the Fiat is a lot better .
i rented a non-abarth 500 with this type of gearbox (manual with a computer and actuators doing the shifting). It is literally the worst car I have ever driven and anyone who thinks it is good in either auto OR pseudo-manual mode can't tell their arse from their elbow. WTF were fiat thinking perservering with this? It leaves you waiting at the traffic lights while it stuffs around deciding whether to engage 1st and let the clutch out, changes gear mid corner for no good reason, all sorts of other stupid quirks, and it was slow as hell when controlled from the steering wheel. Horrible horrible product.
What a confusing over explanation about the gear selector
You’re not selling to me.
Best automatic ever!!!!!
It seems like this gentleman does not understand the gear systems in cars.
Terrible manual as well
ordered mine manual because of this slow bullshit changing gears
why start up the car to view and to hear the quad tips sounds ..no no lets put stupid music over the top that.
Automatic on this car 🤮 no involvement also much less reliable than the manual
This car is not really made for the highways . A : it consumes a lot on the highway
B : it doesn't have any cruise control option.
For the country roads like driving through wine gardens in Italy, it's the best and very good looking car ,brakes are quite good and the sound system is on point.
Do you not understand the difference between a proper automatic gearbox and an automated manual???? 🙄
I certainly do now, I’ve learnt a lot thanks to lots of comments !
I can’t understand road testing one of the best hot hatches on the market in automatic form. Abarth make less than 4% for the disabled market. Who buys a pocket rocket auto? Review proper cars that do as they say! Not malign a proper car that caters for the few. Best thing you said was buy a manual. The other 99% was diatribe shite young man. Review a car for what it is not what it’s been adapted to do. The airways are full of negativity. Next week do a Fiesta ST Auto eh! Kick the shit out of that gearbox.i/ we/us don’t need your early learning days opinion on auto’s. I know they’re shite and don’t need you to tell me that. Test abilities not inabilities.
MARK HUGHES appreciate the feedback
Who buys an abarth auto? You need to just retire from driving if you actually want an abarth auto.
Ugly car