Laying Fiberglass and Fairing The Repairs!
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I’m in the beginning of a huge project that makes me feel like I’m in way over my head. Your videos always give me so much motivation, confidence and hope. Thank you for sharing.
Its always mesmerizing to watch you work Andy! Great video.
Great work. Going to be glassing in my new stringers and transom soon. Thank you for taking time to explain all your steps.
Thanks for sharing! Giving me the confidence to work on a soft area on the deck above the saloon, I appreciate your taking the time.
Finally a video which makes sense, just what I've been looking for to repair the deck on my own boat here in the UK.
Thanks again.
Thank you for your expert knowledge and time!
Mate, great tutorial, exactly what I was looking for. Your detailed explanation and action video gives me the info I need to get the project started.
Thanks
Impressed of your work as always!
Thanks Andy, very helpful.
Great info! I really enjoy these videos and can’t wait to apply what I’ve learned. I have a tip for you... Lint roller. It helps get rid of the itchiness.
Always look forward to seeing your new videos. Very helpful and inspiring. Just finished fixing my sailboat with West System epoxy. What a fantastic product.
Agree totally. These videos make my day!
Look at Kiwi Grip for a deck coating. I used it on my boat and it worked very well. It's easy to apply, fills in imperfections, and leaves a very non-skid surface. I wouldn't use it over something that has a nice non-skid pattern but if you want to hide imperfections it does the job.
Great video as usual. If you get a minute take a look at two of the Festool sanders, RS 2 and the RO models, especially the RO 150. Sanding glass with them can be almost dustless. Not sure if they will work for you, but you can try them for 30 days no strings attached...
I'm about to start restoring a Pearson Ariel. No idea what I'm doing so I'm sure your channel is going to come in handy!
Another great video. I enjoy these a lot, you should educate in some boat building school, cheers Andy 👍
If you're looking for sanders that have exceptional dust collection, take a look at the Festool line. I know they're expensive but I have very little clean up after I'm done sanding
One of your better videos.
Andy, Thank you so much. Great Video as usual and very good timing given the deck work I am in the middle of. It is interesting to see that the heat makes the fairing thinner. I will keep that in mind. I am curious why you chose epoxy for the fairing coat rather than using polyester if that is what you used on the rest of the repair? Curious minds want to know as I step into the same tasks.
Still good advise!! Thanks!!
Nice video Andy. I wish I could work as fast as you do.
Thanks Todd! Me too :-O The beauty of editing ;-)
Great video! Did using poly for the lay-up and then the west system epoxy for fairing create any challenges? Thanks!
Thank you
Love the videos. The 1708 has chopped strand mat backing (8 oz / ft^2), so were you adding the separate layers of CSM just for thickness?
Could you make a video on which fiberglass mat to use for different projects or repairs?
Andy, great video! Although not a how-to (but for that you have other videos in your channel) it is great to see your process and how fast you work! :) One question: why alternate 1708 and CSM? When I need to build thickness fast I use a heavier version of the common 1708, its the same 17oz biaxial but the mat in the back is 24oz per square yard. Let me tell you, you need a good pair of scissors to cut this stuff!
Nice video. Would also like to see the finished deck after you painted/gelled it....
New to the channel, and first time doing glass. This was very helpful. My question I have is I am dfoing bench work in the cockpit and I need to glass over edges. What is the best way to mix so that it gravity doesn't ruin the work on vertical edges?
could you please make a video regarding the binder in choppstrain matt and the use of epoxy?
I know you showed the west epoxy system in the still at the start of this video, can I just confirm you laid up the cloth with epoxy ? Much appreciated. Paul
Great video and lots of help. Had a question, seems many say to use polysester when redoing floors on boat over plywood and when addy 1708. Yet seems many actually use epoxy like yourself. Any takes? Thanks
The 406 silica is amazing. Very workable, thick, clay sculpting-like thickness workable even. West Systems line is the best, like stronger than original repair quality.
I always love seeing your videos, pretty snazzy. I do have a question, as I will be fairing my own deck in a week or so. I was planning on using West Systems, with a 80% 107/20% of 110, just thicker than what you went with on your video. Should that be fine?? I recored and just have to sand all 50' of it now, and yes, I WILL be wearing a tyvec suit...I learned that after your comments...
Hey there need some tips on 1708 on boat tops. I struggle with folding it over something without having a bunch on bubbles. Thank you. Great video!
You know, I have watched many FG video's,
and YOU are the 1st person I've watched
use a FG roller the proper way. 👍
best fiberglassing channel! do you ever do many power boats? i am about to start a rebuild shortly on an Aus built haines hunter
Hi Andy, great video but can you just clear something for me? I'm thinking the glass was laid down with polyester resin as you were using CSM. If so did the epoxy fairing act as the seal to set the poly?? Thanks for the time you spend on your videos, I've learned so much that's helping me work on my Bruce Roberts 34.
Would you use the Makita 9404 to remove old gellcoat to prep. a hull for refairing and e-poxy finish?
I'm thinking of an early '70s trailer sailor.
I have been trying to find info on when to use vacuum bagging. Do you ever use it, and what is the determining factor? I was going to purchase a Bavaria 37 that had a hard grounding and cause a good deal of keel box damage.
great videos
couple questions. on you final coat of fiberglass you are adding wax to the resin so it sets up?
also, you always use the chopped stand between every layer?
looking at the location of the repair areas. I'm wondering what exactly caused the wet core on this boat. I found on my last sailboat a leaky port window may have caused a wet core below it. Is it solid glass around the port widows on this boat here?
Did you finish with layer 7, chopped strand matt? It looked like 6 was the last in the vid and I would have thought you'd finish with cloth for fairing purposes.
Another great video Andy! Thank you so much for sharing your experience and skill.
So did you lay in the glass with poly and fair with West Epoxy?
this is what i want to know?
Did you use polyester resin for the peanut butter, then West System epoxy for fairing on top of it?
Yet another awesome, to-the-point video! Was this all done with epoxy resin? Was it much more difficult to work with the CSM and epoxy vs using polyester resin? I'm still trying to figure which is best for my applications. Thanks Andy!
Really depends.. Feel free to email me with specifics of what you're trying to do!
where are you from? love your channel. I tried doing fiberglass repair on a old stand up jet ski for the first time. fun stuff...
I was going to reseal the foredeck hatch on my boat, but discovered my deck desperately needs a core replacement (ouch!). I've been loving your videos!
Also, any tips on a building up fiberglass on a complicated geometry? Where the deck meets the hatch, it is raised about 3/4". I was just going to lay some new marine-grade plywood as a frame around the old area and then lay some chop-strand over that for the initial layer, but I'm a bit lost on what other glass fiber I should be using. Also, should I cut squares of material (with a square cut out of the middle for the hatch) or should I just do strips? I'm most worried about shaping the corners.
What is the 410 fairing chemical that you added to your resin as fairing...can you show it or touch bases on this a lil bit more
were you using polyester resin or Epoxy..Love the channel , I wish you would review the materials your using a little more in detail.
hi there. wish i found your vids years ago. i did bathtub refininishing and repair for 8yrs. now i own my own refinishing company. have you ever heard of sun- rez resins? that is what i use. just wanted to know what you think of it compared to what uou use.
Great video as always! I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but it looked from the edit like you were laying all 7 layers one after another (no cure time in between). Is that true, or were you giving it a few hours in between?
Also, I assume you were using a laminating resin. Did you spray them with PVA before going over with the epoxy filler, or was it the epoxy filler that allowed the first coats to fully cure?
I wish I could work as fast as you do... LOL
I am restoring my 14 foot sturdy skiff and I had a few questions about sanding it. I started sanding the inside and there are a lot of bumps and hills and my palm sander will not cut them down. Is that just how the boat is made or should I buy a heavier duty sander
Besides experience...how do you know how much glass you need? can you go into how you calculated that?
Hey Andy, Any particular reason you used CSM between each layer of 1708 since it already has the CSM mat on the back? I know you are supposed to use it between layers of cloth or roving, but I thought that was the benefit of 1708...
what is the resin you are using for the project? looks like poly
I just bought the 5 gallon kit of West System, where can I get the dispenser pumps? Does the West System 300 pumps work for the 5 gallon?
You'll love this - I've picked up carbon fiber cloth on eBay a few times, as the prices are much better than they are locally. Today, my latest batch came in. When I opened it, it was cloth, it was black, but it was a miniskirt! You just don't get that when you buy locally. Lol. I guess I won't try to do a hand lay up of the miniskirt, although I am tempted, just to prove a point. ;-))))
Nice!!
Small tip when sanding fiberglass: have a spray bottle handy filled with 3/4 water and 1/4denatured alcohol or cleaning vinegar (half and half works even better) and e few drops of dish soap. Very lightly wetting/misting the surface just to hold down most of the dust. Don't overdo! You will know by the speed of clogging your belt. When done carefully it clogs not much (usually less)faster than at normal use. If you make a slurry. Stop, wipe down surface, use compressed air to clean sanding belt. And continue. A shorter hose on the sander to the shop vac also helps allot. Keeps extraction at highest efficiency and it saves the vac engine working overtime. We would zipty the vacuum hose derictly Infront of the sander, tape shut the extraction port and drag not push the sander, works fast like, a treat. Even though this was on fiberglass carbodies and plugs, techniques are very very similar. Greeting from the Netherlands.
Was the mat and 1708 laid with epoxy also, or polyester? Did the 1708 you used also have a mat layer attached? Wondering why you added layers of just mat? Also, any thoughts on alternating 1708 layers with 1808 layers, to have the strands running on the 90s and 45 degree angles, instead of just the 1708's 45s? I'll be fixing the deck on a Mako 20' this spring, so your videos are extremely helpful! Thanks.
Nice
what type and grit sandpaper do you use?
where do u order ur glass and resin from
can you use poly resin with 410 filler ?
What did you add in your fairing thickened epoxy?
great, I didn't get how many batches of polyester resin you mixed for one set of 7 layers of glass
I'm building a camper/Toyhauler out of thin wood and want to cover in fiber glass then paint it. My question is how many layers of glass do you suggest in not planning. on walking on the roof. I love your videos. I know its hard to tell me something. your not looking. at just need a riff idea.
Really depends on the type of glass used. Please feel free to email me with specifics :-)
Bro you didn't have to add wax or PVA because you're using epoxy resin over the top?
Are you using epoxy filler on top of polyester resin ?
Did you use polyester resin on the chopped strand and 1708? If so, you recommend using both polyester resin & epoxy resins together?
The deck is going to be covered with the decking material so it doesnt matter.
It doesn't look like you let the chopped strand get to "B" stage before putting the 1708 on top of it. Aren't you concerned that you'll have the glass floating in the epoxy rather than adhering to the surface? Maybe it was the editing, but am just curious. Great video. Love the channel.
Are you using polyester resin or epoxy resin?
I've watched literally all your videos. Excellent job. I'm doing everything as you do, use the same materials, as well as tools. I do have a question though.
im restoring a 71 cobia cuddy cabin. I'm fairing out the imperfections now and hopefully can get it painted this weekend. I'm actually having it painted as you would a car (friend owns a paint shop and is doing it for free)- he's going to primer then paint it. Will the tiny pits be filled with the primer, or should I continue with the epoxy and the 410 (whatever it was you used in a previous video) and fill the pits and sand them out with my DA sander?
My typical process is to fare and prime. There will be pin-holes. Go back over those with an epoxy based filler (fill everything you see!). Prime again and repeat this process until it's perfect. Then shoot another primer coat to seal the filler, wetsand with 800 and shoot the topcoats :-) Can be a hassle, but the end result will be rewarded! Hope this helps!
Kevin Keith Sometimes the pinholes are so small that the filler (resin + 410 or similar) won't fill them. For those, the only filler I've been able to use successfully is 3M spot putty (or similar name) it's a green filler that comes in a thoothpaste like tube and is very fine. The only drawback is that it is a 1K filler and acetone will remove it if you wipe the surface with it. Seal it with an epoxy primer and you're good.
Hi all, Anyone who cares to answer is fine. I've never worked with fiberglass, but I'm considering reinforcing some plywood with fiberglass. For a newbie. What type of glass clothe would work best with plywood? Appearance isn't as important as strength. Also, what suggestions anyone might add, so as to ensure the bond is tight. Is it necessary to use epoxy ? It's bit pricey, but is there a cheaper way ??
is it 300g or 600 g fibre glass ?
Do you buy barrels of resin or what size containers to you buy or keep on hand? Jack
I buy as needed, but usually by the gallon. Large projects typically 5 gal at a time :-) Always have poly and epoxy on hand along with an assortment of fillers ;-)
I got a question. How would a person know when a fiber glass boat is to old to even restore
how do you clean those fin rollers nobody ever shows that?
wire wheel.
I stumbled upon your videos when I decided to rebuild my rotten transom. Great channel! The fiberglass work has me ready to take the leap and get to glassing. If you like fishing check my videos out.
why , you don,t used peelply , avoyding lots of sanding!!
What exactly did you mix in the epoxy to thicken it up! You talk to fast!
fast work of that project took only 7 minutes
Short and to the point :-)
no bunny suit.. no complaining
The proper way to join fiberglass is a 12 to 1 fairing bevel minimum.. a quarter inch laminate needs to tie in to 3 inches of bevel right?
;-)