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This man just sacrificed his entire Canadian audience for that ending and i love it!
Yeah I'm gonna pay for that down the line 😂😂
Canada has a complicated relationship with Europe. Amongst it proudest of achievements, was being the capitol of the Netherlands during WW2.
I'm Canadian and I didn't know that
What was it?..Newer New Amsterdam ?😏
16:17 17 years of peace now
For the record; that's a record that most of the major powers have too. The likes of the UK, France, Russia, and China only have like a few years of peace in their entire history.
We learned about the Civil War and the Western Expansion in school but I honestly didn't learn about the Pig War until OverSimplified
Indeed.
San Juan is part of Washington state, where I was born n raised and never heard about it.
Pretty much no one has except on the islands.
I think only kids in western Washington State who get to go on school trips to the San Juan Islands learn about the Pig War.
We learned about Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece and Rome. Covered the basic outline of European history up to the age of Discovery, as well as some basics about the major Asian cultures like China, Japan, India. Then focused more on American History after that, mainly focusing on the big events, the pre-Columbian Indian cultures in the area, the Revolution, Civil War, and the World Wars. I can honestly say I had never heard of the Pig War before I read about it online.
Bro we didn't get to do anything on Mesopotamia, left me feeling naive when I later learned how important they were !
In school, we took World History- a huge textbook that started in Mesopotamia & Ancient Egypt & went to the Cold War; we never really got that far in studies (usually only got as far as post WWII or the beginning of the Vietnam war due to time constraints & teachers who had "favorite" eras they wanted to focus on).
I learned a little about this dispute (it was part of the Manifest Destiny section) which was usually glossed over. Generally (growing up in the South) the teachers went straight to the Civil War & stayed for a couple of weeks.
I liked ancient history myself, but tales of historical idiocy were fun.
Also, I think you should check out The Fat Electrician. He does awesome military history videos. You would enjoy him.
Canada was kinda formed in 3 different ways
• Confederation
July 1, 1867
• Statute of Westminster, 1931
December 11, 1931
• Patriation
April 17, 1982
The “only six years of peace” is derived at via historians including all conflicts/violence the United States has been involved with and not just official Congressionally declared wars. Not every violent action had the approval of Congress and some of the violence was between Americans (i.e. includes the Civil War but there was violence between Americans before and after). So the “only six years of peace” literally just means that within the 200+ years as a country (doesn’t include violence before independence declared….although there’s plenty in that part of our history, too) the amount of total time in which the US/Americans have not been actively engaging in violence in some form with others or each other amounts in total to six years (and I’d carefully remind people it doesn’t mean numbered years specifically, but instead that there’s been a total of 2,190 days within the 200+ years in which the US government, state governments, or Americans themselves were not engaged in some kind of violence. That’s what it means when you hear someone repeat that (although if I remember correctly the historians that said the state didn’t actually specify “6 years”, but the number of days they actually said the news media said amounted to close to 6 years, to give readers/viewers some sense of the time, and then people basically reworded the original quote and it’s been repeated like you said you’ve heard; so it’s not 100% exactly 6 years, just close enough that it’s easier to understand the amount of time as 6 years instead of the number of days the historians originally said).
The United States has, as of January 2024, fought 108 wars (5 of which are currently ongoing) starting with its war for independence and then also had numerous other violent conflicts it has been involved with. Wikipedia has great pages that list all the wars and conflicts with links to the articles about each. It’s important to note that in schools here in the US that our textbooks often cover a lot of these conflicts and wars. I live in Oklahoma and history is taught in stages. So in elementary school you are taught bits and pieces of world history, American history, and Oklahoma history in “history class”. It’s usually stuff that helps kids understand things like why we celebrate Thanksgiving, why is George Washington important, and things like that. Basically age-appropriate history lessons (i.e. your going to talk about the Romans, the American Revolution, World War 2, etc one way for a 6 year old and another for a 10 year old so each grade in elementary school essentially it’s just progressively giving more information; it’s also to keep it fun and interesting so lessons move quite quickly through subjects). In middle school/junior high (ages 12-14) you’ll take a world history class and American history class in each grade (7th and 8th grade). Again, it covers a lot of time and provides more information than you’ve learned, but this is when you’d start learning more about the parts of history that aren’t so easy to study. In high school you’d take an Oklahoma History class in 9th grade (and most other states do the same with their states’ histories), a World History class in 10th or 11th grade, and in 11th or 12th grade take an American History class. These classes move slower, but still cover a lot of information, often in a lot more detail. Plus you’re usually assigned papers to write that require you to go beyond the textbooks to learn about topics. In my school the history teachers also had us do presentations on certain history topics (which we drew out of a hat). These are the most detailed history classes we have. When I was in school my history teachers were Korean War and Vietnam War veterans. They taught history without trying to paint the US, Oklahoma, or whomever we were studying as the good guys vs bad guys. They challenged us to think critically about every historical event we studied and encouraged us to learn about them beyond the textbooks. In fact, it wasn’t uncommon for my American History teacher to recommend films and books to watch/read to learn more….and we did get to watch them in class from time to time. University history education continues teaching even more, but not everyone in the US goes to university so a middle school or high school level of understanding is often what is considered to be what the average American knows. To be fair, while I do remember studying about the dispute over the border between Canada and the US, I hadn’t heard of the “Pig War” before (even when in university) and Oversimplified’s video actually connects a lot of dots to the issue of the dispute over the border that wasn’t made so clearly in my classes. According to my niece, her history teacher showed Oversimplified videos and a few other history CZcams channel videos in class during related subjects. (CZcams didn’t exist when I was in school; the internet didn’t have streaming videos…we were on dialup so even photos on a website took forever to show up! But our teachers did do their best to try and make history interesting. Actually all my teachers tried making their subjects fun and interesting and have us engaged with the subject as best they could….looking back on it, they really deserved to paid more and I think that’s true for teachers today. My niece’s teachers were quite creative at finding ways to keep kids wanting to learn [she graduated high school last May; she now works at the children’s science museum in my city that was founded by one of our citizens who was a NASA astronaut and went to the moon and was part of Skylab back in the 1970s; there’s an area of the museum dedicated to him and his wife in the part of the museum that talks about space).
Great reaction!
Franklin was both. Inventor ( which is underselling it, he's basically the Newton of Electricity) and diplomat and politician. His work on electricity made him famous. Especially in Britain and France, he was by FAR the most famous american at the time.
That's why he was send to France during the US revolution. He just found more open doors than others would have. He was very successful eventually getting French support to it and throwing some sticks in the british spokes.
Back home, in his 80's he was very influential in bringing the very difficult negotiations for the US constitution to a compromise and success. It's often glanced over that this was by no means certain. The colonies(soon states) might well have seperated again afetr the war.
He is a fascinating person, very clearly a genius, he did more important and influential things in his life than 3 others combined. Reducing him to the (wrong) Kite-thunderstorm thing, is not doing him justice. Oversimplified tends to make him a bit of a joke figure (in the American Revolution video) which is a shame. And he is, (Walter Isaacson) "the founding father, who winks at us" not the untouchable Washington or pompous Jefferson.
There is a ncie quote from a fanous english scientist at the time: "Franklin found Electricity as a curiosity and left it as a science". He also invented the lightning rod and refused to patent it (like all his inventions) , giving it away to the public instead of getting silly rich from it.
Re: the Fraser Canyon gold rush, the nature of gold rushes is that you can't really control who comes; there are just too many people. The same thing happened when gold was discovered in California in 1848, with people practically air-dropped in from all over -- not just from around North America, but South America and Europe and China and anyplace else people heard about it and could hop on a ship. Same with the Yukon gold rush in 1896. Word would get out, and people started showing up, and whoever owned the territory just had to get out of the way, and do their best to manage things as well as possible. And really, letting the folks who showed up buy their own equipment and do the work of mining, then taxing them, was probably more profitable for the governments than expending labor and materials to keep people out, *and* paying again for labor and equipment to exploit the gold themselves.
The reason I love Oversimplified’s videos is because he not only teaches things in an interesting way, but also teaches of conflicts I never learned in school, such as the Football War, Emu War, and Pig War. This one’s one of my favorites because it’s hilarious, especially the ending. 😂
I'm from Washington State and even I had never heard of the pig war until Oversimplified made their video on it
And also, at 47:25, it reminds me of a quote from a movie called The Outlaw Josey Wales. When Josey met with the Comanche chief named Ten Bears, Josey said "governments don't live together, people live together. With governments, you don't always get a fair word or a fair fight."
The yellow is actually Spainish territory mexico was originally a part of the spanish empire along with most of south america.
Mexico and Florida and California were Spanish territories.
@@annfrost3323 Spain Never really colonized in Flordia except for a few cities. California was a part of New Spain which became the Mexican Empire. In the video the Spanish empire is only temporarily shown as by the time of the pig war mexico gained its independence. Though it was still in constant civil war with itself
So glad your back making videos
A channel called "Operations Room" has a good series on the Gulf War. It's not comedic but it has a reliable timeline and factual information
I actually *did* learn about the Pig War in history class - but I live in Washington state, so it was technically local history and therefore required learning. Even then, it wasn't really directly addressed in class; it was _maybe_ one page in the textbook, and then it was back to all of our history revolving around California for the remainder of the 19th century. (Which made the class really boring, because I had grown up in California and already knew that part of history, so it was like having to take the same class all over again.)
I'm Australian, and all we do in school is the first fleet, you guys, the Brits sent 11 ships to set up a colony here, and that's pretty much it, to show you that's the only thing we ever did, we had bunch of assignment about individuals on it
0:41 There's a brand new, as of last weekend, pair of videos out by Oversimplified.
The 2nd Punic war parts 1 & 2.
22:15 You both would enjoy visiting the San Juan islands.
Bro Biden a Roomba while he's giving the speeches 😂
In my education in america we had a world history class in both elementary and middle school barely covering subjects like rome and egypt. A US history in High school as well as modern geopolitics as a senior in high school, with the Syrian war happening around when i graduated.
OverSimplified just recently released a new video on The Second Punic War.
I liked in my highschool, we had 1 general history class you took in 9th grade. Then the other 3 you could pick from a number of electives for history. Biggest 2 courses I remember choosing was World Religions and Major Wars.
And we do learned bits about Greek, Roman, French, English, Russian, and Chinese history. Nothing to in depth though.
53:45 in answer to your question, they call him The Great One.
I don't remember learning about the Pig War but I do remember learning about some of the border disputes with Canada. The Lumberjack Wars come to mind, but that was probably only a couple of paragraphs in a textbook.
I hadn’t heard of the Pig War until the video came out
Benjamin franklin was the colonies' ambassadorTo europe. He spent a lot of time in europe trying to build Sympathy and support for the colonies. He also was on the commission who worked on the declaration of independence. I also believed he joined the continental congress later on.
We do not usually learn about the pig war in US history, but we do learn about the other big territorial disputes between the US and Britain/Canada. We also do usually have at least 1 year of World History in High School. I personally think we should focus more on wider context for history and a bit less on The revolution and the Civil War, but most Americans do get at least that 1 year to cover the romans/Greeks, China etc., and the European empires in the age of exploration and colonization are intertwined with US history
50:59 Don’t feel too bad. American History classes briefly mention the Louisiana Purchase, and tend to skip from there (after talking about Lewis and Clark) to the current border shapes. No mention of smallpox or blankets anywhere in that history. We go from Thanksgiving to “The Wild West” and the Oregon Trail. Funnily enough, our supposed language class, “English,” covers more English History (The War of the Roses, Crusades, Black Death, etc.) than we learn in any History classes, since the syllabus makers prefer to teach Empirical English History through the artistic languages, like writing and art and music. Also, that’s more than we learn about interactions with Native Americans in our own History. They teach us about Sacajawea and early Thanksgiving, and something about Manhattan that involves trading beads for land. Now, Native Americans have been relegated to a small territory, with our government still paying their descendants enough money to keep the “Manifest Destiny” under a blanket. A smallpox blanket. Thanks a lot, shitty white ancestors of mine (not that I’m aware of any personal connection between my lineage and that of the real “savages” that committed that atrocity, but I’m a white American male, so I’ll readily apologize for it more than a Canadian).
This conflict is definitely not something covered in US history class in American schools
Just the general westward expansion, the joint occupation of the Oregon Territory, etc
And yes, all American students get both World History and US History… Some US states also require a course on their state’s history as well
I live in the region and it was a glossed over topic in state history classes... I'm sure most Americans barely know about it or the public schools here betrayed me, because all of it was within 100 miles.
The Pickett being discussed is the one from the confederate side at Gettysburg, and he came back up here, still complaining about Lee getting his boys killed. Built a nice bridge I drive under every day. Very interesting how close he came to being the reason a different war started, while still having his whole unit destroyed by artillery.
Yes we learn about history from all over the world its even called World History in some highschools instead of just history
Y’all should react to some Montemayor content. Especially his Midway series and Eastern Solomon’s series.
Hello from America.
Yes, we have world history classes in school, but they don't focus on events that were this small. Actually, in some of the world history curricula that are used here, the US revolution is considered too small to be covered, and is overshadowed by the French Revolution.
In American History we do cover things like the War of 1812. That's one that's interesting to hear from the perspective of those outside of the US. It's like both sides ignore significant things that happen or re-frame them for their thoughts. The British treat it as a backwater war that meant little (and globally it was). The Canadians treat it as their greatest triumph, claiming that they personally burned the White House. The Americans treat it as a draw that they came out ahead on.
One thing that is often overlooked is that some of Britain's most experienced troops, having fought under Wellington in Spain and Portugal, were totally defeated and shattered attempting to invade Baltimore and take the port from the US. Pretty much all anyone remembers is that is where our national anthem comes from, but not how gigantic a win it was.
I genuinely never even heard of the God damn Pig War before I saw this video.
History matters does excellent short animated documentaries with a tony bit of humor in them and has them dont in a animated style i think you would enjoy.
For a starter video you should check out there WW1 video it has like 4 mil views but they cover pretty much every subject you can think in history on 10 minutes or less, occasionally 20 minutes
Love your channel! Have you considered reacting to fat electrician?
I don’t know if 3 months late is too late but…
No, we don’t generally learn about the pig war. This would be considered trivia.
We do generally learn about world history, but not in much detail. Crash Course world history is a pretty good representation of what we in America generally learn.
World History is definitely a requirement in US schools. They usually teach 2 courses. 1500 BCE to 0 and 0 to present. They also have a US History class. In college they have more in depth classes on European history and other world history that's usually required.
The most famous Confederate commerce raider the CSS Alabama was built in England.
great reaction you 2 are the best. Would you two consider reacting to Lemino s jack the ripper series?
Oh good idea ! Becc would bloody love that
@@JamesCornwall95 i mean Lemino s video on Jack the Ripper he has no series
The guy who did the “Morgan Freeman” voice is an impressionist on CZcams. It’s the only video where someone else does a voice
You guys should watch Epic History TV's Napoleon in Italy Series. It is so good
Is more than six years. But we've never gone more than 20years without som to sort of armed conflict.
We definitely don't learn this in school. I wish we did - it's fascinating.
Are you guys gonna do Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the sith?
We learn world history, but we still miss a lot of stuff
We have gone as a norm 20 years between wars. The World Wars we were dragged into so it's not all the US and we never went Empire Building.
Yes we do learn about all of the important Ancient civilizations (Egypt, Greece, Rome), but others such as the Phoenicians aren't coveted in extreme detail until college. And I'd never even heard of The Pig War until Oversimplified. I genuinely expected it to be like the War of the Bucket and never even considered it may have to do with America until I got around to watching it. We also barely even covered the War of 1812, just a few details amd nothing major
Yeah I remember learning about the Phoenicians in high school but not in much depth
We do learn about Greek and Roman history. Maybe a small bit of Egyptian and Asian history. Almost none of African. European history is our primary focus, learning about the Magna Carta, but it's more about European explorers and inventors than anything. Our world history classes probably cover more about Aztecs, Wayans, and Native American tribes than yours, but we also learn about them in American History. We don't really cover things like the Tudors or Victorians. We do learn that Crusades were a thing and the Inquisition, but our classes on the Industrial Revolution are focused more on Eli Whitney to Henry Ford and very little about the rest of the world.
I assume you mean the Mayans? I don't remember the Wayans being covered much in history classes, lol
@@kemperor Autocorrect strikes again >
British shipyards were selling to the confederates, the British public was very anti-slavery at the time and complained enough that the British government put a stop to it. The shipyards still occasionally got away with sending ships to international waters and conveniently switching crews and adding guns, and coming back with money though. A few of the Confederate raiding ships did enormous amounts of financial damage before they were caught, particularly in the Pacific against US whaling ships and merchants. This is why the British ended up paying reparations for all the shipping loss.
Americans do not learn about the pig war in school. We have to learn this from the Internet.
16:38 To paraphrase a youtube comedian: " America is just 50 war tribes in a trenchcoat."
As an American we do learn world history starting in 7th grade (at least in my state)it’s In pretty deep detail too and surprisingly they even teach a bout the really bad things America did.
Basically everything important from 3000 bce to 2000 ce
38:42 Of course we learn about world history haha. That's most of what we talk about.
Honestly, if my history teachers went over this dispute back in the early 2000's, I don't remember it all. We did go over world history, U.S. history, but as someone else mentioned, just about everything was glossed over. Of course, we didn't have CZcams or Oversimplified to go over it at the time, either lol. So until Oversimplified, I didn't even know about this event.
Benjamin Franklin was primarily resposible for securing the alliance with France that guaranteed American victory in the Revolution.
You should check out the second Punic war !! Just dropped
Wayne Gretzky is the greatest Ice Hockey player of all time!
There's a very good thing that the British Empire did. They ended the Atlantic Slave Trade with an iron fist. Blockaded weak countries that practiced slavery and had a shoot first ask questions later when it came to sinking slave ships. They don't teach that in schools in England?
React to The Fat Electrician. Especially th the Iranian Navy in 8 hours
Not really true, as the US didn't have any major conflicts after the War of 1812 until the Mexican American war in 1846, and then the 1860s in the civil war.
Maybe they meant after World War 2, but that is pretty much part of the course.
By WWI, many Canadians who volunteered to go fight for Britain would do so proud of their British lineage. But also by this point, particularly the further west you went, people saw themselves separate nationally - that they were Canadians, and had no real connection to Europe, let alone to fight in any wars. The Liberal government for the first half (possibly 3/4, memory is foggy) of the war was short on delivering troops to Britain because Canada refused to do conscription. It wasn't until a switch to a Conservative government when a draft was implemented. The French, already not a fan of being told to go fight a European war, for Britain nonetheless, now being forced to led to Montreal getting the fiery French treatment, and the draft halted.
Canada then wanted more autonomy. The efforts in WWI granted them it, allowing them their own seat at the Security Council, or at least in the decision making progress somewhere. In WWII, when Britain would ask Canada to help, the Prime Minister would take a few days "to think about it", although I'm sure knowing us we would've probably helped anyways.
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"does America do foreign history in school? I doubt it."
Ouch.
We do. It's the majority of what we learn. Don't judge us by the worst of us ;(
If you guys had to live in the US what state would yall choose? And also you guys would lose the accents after a decade living here 😂
The yellow on the map was Spain, not Mexico. Mexico never held Florida.
It's what happens when people stop using logic and start insisting their side wins.
She: pig war about police??
WOW!
If you're done with Oversimplified you should start reacting to more Sam O'Nella Academy.
The right to bare arms is an American thing
We had war in Syria with Trump in office, along with an ongoing presence in Iraq and Afghanistan, just not as great a scale. We have had about 17 years total without conflict.
Britain lost Canada after ww2
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Well from 1777 till 1812 we didn't have war and 90 through 01 no war so false lol
In the late 1780's and early 1790's we were involved in the Northwest Indian War which resulted in the U.S. capturing a large amount of the rust belt region from fierce Native resistance and between the 1990's and 2001 we were involved in the Somalian Civil War.
@@Ballenheimer1 still 10 yrs right there
@@Ballenheimer1 and we rushed aid got abliturated once and pulled out it exactly a war . Plus that was just that the SOMALIA civil war.
@@Ballenheimer1 and technically we've been not in a war got what 3 years now . Giving money to Ukraine and Israel for not count
The figure he's referencing includes essentially every instance of Americans being engaged in conflict with either other peoples or with each other as being "not at peace." In other words, any sort of skirmish or border conflict with natives, any military intervention, etc. It's really not as bad as it sounds. Europe has also known comparatively little "peace" by that standard.
Ben Franklin is on our $100 bill. The guy was a pimp 😂. Canada still has your royals on their money.
If all you know about Franklin is the 100 dollar bill, you are really a sad peasant. Start studying.
We've had a little more than 6 years of peace, it is an extremely high percentage. In our 247 years of existence, we have been involved in 108 conflicts. Many of these did overlap with each other. For example, we are currently involved in like 4 or 5. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States