Pole Barn Post, Concrete or Foam?
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- A better pole barn part 4. Join us as we use Fast2K post-setting foam instead of concrete. This is a two-part epoxy foam that is stronger than concrete and encapsulates the post keeping them from rotting. Fast2K is an amazing product. I can't find anything I don't like about it. Just amazing! It is perfect to set structural posts, fences, and to help repair loose posts where the concrete has broken down.
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im a lineman out in Arizona and we use the foam on power poles, but from a 5 gallon bucked mix. they also make a mix that comes out of a box. they both work very well. trying to pull a pole out of the ground with foam isnt easy at all. Great job
That is good to know. I appreciate the input. It makes me feel better
you used polecrete...
Another benefit is reduced mess. Mixing concrete makes a big mess for your shovels and wheelbarrows. And of course if you don't rinse all the concrete out, it hardens and ruins your tools. And rinsing with water makes a mess in of itself. But, don't worry concrete, you still have your place....people will always need slabs and floors and walls. 😊 Thanks Tony!
Agreed. I will still put a concrete floor in at some point.
I’m definitely using this next time i set poles!
I know it will cut the labor down dramatically.
I just set fence poles on a 3 acre pasture. All the corners and gate post we used Fast2k. Works like a champ and I will definitely use it again. Just like Hank and Tony!
Instead of stopping to measure the depth with the tape, mark the depth you need on the hole digger handle.
Good idea. We were looking for a reason to take a break.
Thanks again folks. Interesting ro hear the rep describing some of the properties of the material. Project is fair coming along👍
We are moving along. It rained 16 days in September, and October is starting wet. This time if year is normally very dry.
I haven't used this yet but my local menards sells it for about $12 a bag and says it is a 100 lb equivalent. If this stuff is any good AT ALL it is a slam dunk. I can't wait to try it.
Check out our other videos, We have built several projects with Fast2K. I am a believer.
This stuff was used to rebuild New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina
That foam system was amazing! I’ve never seen that before. - Chad
I have done my homework on it. I think I will use it to build our pole barn house.
Very cool stuff, I like the idea of it being frost resistant in that it seals around the wood. Good job Tony!
I can not find anything I don't like about the product.
Good stuff Tony! That really looks like the ticket buddy, looking forward to seeing this building come together. Keep up the good work!
Thank you brother. We are working hard everyday to get a bit more done. The weather has been horrendous. It rained half the month last month, and it is starting out the same this month.
Thumbs up from the Dooleys of Michigan Enjoyed The Video
Thank you. Working hard to get it in the dry.
I'd never heard of the foam before you channel. Looks neat!
We have weathered 80mph winds without fail.
Never heard of the product and this is really good info. I have to rebuild a deck next year with new poles....guess what I am NOT going to use - Cement.
I have did a good bit of studying on it. I am going to build my house with it.
Cool stuff Tony. If I ever set another post I’ll be looking for that.
Me too!
I’m the type of person I’ll want to see what happens to the foam after 10 years of weathering thanks for sharing buddy
Utility companies have been using it for 20 years. It holds up better than concrete.
Awesome stuff. Glad you showed this Tony. I never heard tell of this product until you were doing your electric install. I'll be looking for this product. Can you get it at the Big Box Stores? Thanks buddy for sharing your experiences.
I bought it at the Lowes. Most box stores have it. Make sure it is the Fast2K brand. I tried the other brand, it does not work as well. It shrinks.
@@TonysTractorAdventure thank you bud
Thanks for teaching be about this stuff! What is the diameter of your auger / depth of your holes before putting the 6x6 posts in? Thanks!
We used 9" holes 4' deep.
Thank you so much for your info. I am just like you I am against manual labor....lol
You and me both!
When this first started I thought that was your brother Tony. O, NO there are two of these characters around :) That sure is quicker that concrete. How much does one of those bags cost? Thanks for sharing Iowa cares :)
It ranges from $12 to 14 per bag which is more than concrete; there is no need to bring water or tool clean up.
Good stuff. Cant wait to try it out!
We hung our first truss today. Between rain, and break downs, it has been tough to work.
what about at the bottom of the post? isn't that in contact with the ground?
Fast2K pushes a film under the post.
Just started filling four channel. Good stuff man. Really enjoy watching. Maybe you covered it and I missed it but what happened to the homemade laminate post?
The reason we started making the laminated beam was due to the spike in 6x6 post prices. The price dropped after this video, so ease and time played a role in our decision-making process. The post we made is still as solid as a rock. Truthfully, I wished we had gone ahead with our posts. The ones we bought have twisted some. Some are worse than others. Our laminated beam post has been sitting out in the weather and is still as straight as the day we made it.
What do you put in the bottom of the hole? I want to use Fast 2K but it seems like you would want a little under your post. If not, how do you keep moisture out?
Fast2K pushes under the posts.
Great, informative video. I've always wondered if these foam products would hold up long term.
I think I am going to build my house this way.
@@TonysTractorAdventure If you want just a little more practice first, I'd let you build me a larger barn first! 😂
Solid plan.😁😁😁
how the post holding up?
Perfect to this point.
With the foam, do you need to pickup the post or do anything down in the hole to make sure it seals the end of the post?
No sir. Fast2K pushes under the post. Also, post don't rot at the bottom. They don't have access to oxygen. Most post rot happens just below ground level.
I am buying the product based on what i saw in your videos. Thanks.
I can't find anything I don't like about it.
As always Tony enjoy your videos this stuff is really awesome question I have is about price of this stuff compared to concrete as always enjoy your videos stay safe and have a blessed weekend and weak
It is cost more bag to bag, but when you take time in to account Fast2K is cheaper. You will not need water, and you will not have to clean up all the concrete tools later. The fact it saves me from lifting concrete bags wins me over.
Enjoyed the video and all your videos. Any idea of cost differences between concrete and the foam?
It is negligible in this. I will still have to pour a concrete floor.
Do you put anything under the post for a footing or to keep in off the soil?
Comical. Thanks for a laugh and a good video
Glad you enjoyed it.
Tony I'm sure you're gonna tell me never leave my number but I want to ask about the TYM T 25 please call me even if you block it I'll answer.thinking about buying one after the new year .ty Soo much
Richard, CZcams blocks phone numbers and web links in post. You can reach out to me on my contact page of my website, facebook etc.
Great video. It’s been a year or so. How has it held up? Did the posts become loose or did the foam contract?
Solid
Foam is technically curing for much longer than you would expect, I would let it breathe as long as possible
This foam cures 95% in 30 mins. It is completely inert 24 hours later. It has been very well tested.
I have been planning a pole barn and looking into this product. As mentioned in the video pressure treated wood is not what it used to be and here in South Louisiana we have a lot of moisture and rain. I have had pressure treated wood rot in above ground use after 10 years. I can't imagine how the 6x6 poles hold up after being in soil that has water in it one foot below the surface. So my question regards the sealing effects of the foam. I can see how it will seal off the wood on all four sides of the pole but what about the bottom, where the wood can wick up the moisture. To me it is like closing all the doors in the house and the windows during a rainstorm but letting the attic window open. Water will get into that house and into the pole. What do you recommend? Do I let the foam into the bottom of the hole first and then set the pole in to let it encapsulate the bottom of the pole? I want this to last beyond my lifetime and I don't want my kids having to replace the poles in 25 years.
Think about it like this. When the foam is poured in the hole it starts to expand. It pushes under the post encapsulating the post. You pour the foam in the bottom first and then put the post in fast. You have about 30 seconds before the foam starts setting up. It could be done.
Would this be safe to use on a raised deck? Deck will be 7' above ground.
Fast2k would work great
How are you going to pour all of it within 30 seconds of each other, but wait 5 minutes between each one?
If you have three bags and three people to pour then the bags can be poured within 30 seconds of each other. If you are by yourself, you can only pour one bag at each time waiting 3-5 minutes between pours.
@@TonysTractorAdventure how many bags did you put per post hole?
Great product. Too bad's it's literally 5-6x the cost of concrete.
Concrete rots wood. The cost is worth it
@@TonysTractorAdventureWe can agree to disagree. Wood rot starts at grade level. There are countless products that prevent it for far cheaper. Installed properly and well below grade, the concrete alone will not adversely affect the wood.
This product makes sense in a commercial setting where the time and labor savings will offset the cost. For a DIY application, you’re paying a huge premium to avoid the hassle of concrete. Everything else is essentially marketing wank.
This looks like it's worth the cost to use.
I am finding all kinds of uses for it. We have a chain link fence that I bumped with the tractor. The concrete was loose. I pulled the post over to the side and poured in Fast2k. It is solid again.
“I’m not really an environmental guy”
We all live on the same planet bud. It’s a shame this stuff has been so politicized, because major climate change effects are coming, and it’s going to effect everyone.
They told me the world would be frozen back in the 70-80s. Then there was going to be global warming and no the climate is going to change again it changes at my house every day.
Nah... I'm old school- stickn to concrete...
That is your call. This is an older video. We have used Fast2K for years now without ever having a failure. Concrete rots post.
The problem is this, The post are not old school anymore. They don't have creosote or formaldehyde. EPA requirement changed everything. Concrete rots new post.