People have sentimental reasons for owning a watch too. I just purchased a non running Hampden watch works from 1901. I am from Canton, Ohio where it was made. It is over 120 YEARS old now and I just love it! Our main highway, Interstate 77, goes right over where the factory was! OK enough of my BS! Great vid!
I know what you mean, I got a 1886 French key wound watch. Been in the family so there’s no way I’d ever sell it, it’s sad to see what some people will do with their family heirlooms though.
I have a 1907 Elgin railroad watch that was my great grandfathers who worked on the railroad in the early/mid 1900s. It’s a 23 jewel. Still works flawlessly! I love it!
never mind i looked more into it turns our its a military hand stop watch issued by the british army back in ww2 , i dont want the watch let me know if interested
For me the mechanical sound fits the owner... I guess in a way, the watch finds you. In the old days they would listen carefully to the sound to hear if it needed rewinding. Some would use this sound to find the watch that matched them. All the glimmer and status cannot compare to the beauty of a watch that matches the heart and rhythm of its owner. Time is really an experience and the watch can control how you experience it... that is for me the true beauty of a beating mechanical clock. Its almost like its symbolize the synchronization of man and machine.
Vintage (around WWII) Rolex/Cortebet pocket watches had 15 jewels, and so did Soviet Molnija ones (did I see you having Molnija as well?). Very precise timekeepers.
Yeah, nothing wrong with 15 jewels, all to do with the movement architecture and if they can design it well to run accurately with 15 then great. With wrist watches I have a 29 jewel one, but that's due to the day, date and power reserve subdial complications.
never mind i looked more into it turns our its a military hand stop watch issued by the british army back in ww2 , i dont want the watch let me know if interested
RR grade would usually entail that it also be “lever set” meaning you have to remove the front of the watch to reveal a little pull out lever to allow you to set the hands. This function is mean to prevent someone from trying to fudge the time for their time tables to meet, and also prevented the watch from being accidentally stopped by the crown being pulled out by accident. Some JNR (Japan National Railway and other Japanese railways) even go as far as “second setting” when they had their own standards of time keeping for the rail road.
I read someplace that you didn’t need so many jewels on a normal watch. They are the bearings and since the larger wheels only turn slowly and not as frequently you don’t really need them so they are just for prestige. Railway watches are a cut above because they had to be accurate by law.
@@alirvng6575You have to wind it everyday. I don't find it annoying. If you are going to buy a pocket watch it has to be mechanical. A battery powered pocket watch is just wrong.
E.Howard Pocket watches were of the highest quality for their time ,and were mostly 15 jewels. Key wind E. Howard pocket watches are highly sought after first because of their quality ,second because of the limited watches that were made !
I have a Waltham hunter pocket watch, originally a half hunter but changed for a full hunter. Watch is dated to 1885, case is 1932. 10 inch chain with large jewel. Sentimental value i guess for me only but been in my family since 1910.
When I was 11 My dad was killed. My mom gave me his Lord Elgin pocket watch. Three months ago my house was broken into. They took his watch. It was the only thing I had from him.
Hi i’m Ben i’m just getting into pocket watches and i really like your videos. They are interesting and informative. Hey i was wanting to ask you maybe you know the answer to this question. But do you know what was probably the most popular pocket watch size during WWll? Like that the soldiers would’ve had?
Did not know what you meant when saying 5-6 adjustments & 19+ Jewels until you opened the back. I have an interest in general antiques and always appreciate the education. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome. Glad you learned something, it's all about sharing the knowledge. There are a lot of great pocket watches, sometimes the brand will trump the adjustments or jewels. Also precious metals naturally will be more expensive of a pocket watch.
Adjustments were positional and at different temps, for a determined time. Which we still do today, although alot faster with 21st century technology. That stuff all affects the accuracy and power reserve of the piece. 5 adjustments are good, the number goes up, the better. Adjustments and tests are two different things. Did they really "adjust" them or just test them? Again, it could have been just a salesman thing. The one and only true standard enforced was railroad grade which was tests AND adjustments made to synchronize engineers and conductors watches to remedy all the crashes. Also remember, these adjustments were done ONCE, at the factory, just before being released for sale. Unless the owners over 100+ years brought it in for a very expensive test every year, those adjustments are long since gone..that's part of the history and allure of these damn things. They're addicting! Lol
I probably want to start a collective process with pocket watches but I do want a personal one (to keep on at all times), but idk what I want. I had people tell me that it would call yo me but I haven’t found one yet. Any ideas? I want my first one to be very personal, and be better if I could get one custom made (or not seeing how I can never settle in a single design)
Hopefully you see this comment. I found a open face pocket watch that says it’s 10k gold and 21 gem and the serial number says it’s from 1924. It still works and is absolutely beautiful. It says bunn specialty, I believe the man who owned it was a railway worker I assume train operator. Any idea what it’s worth? I can provide more info if needed, or even do a video if you could help me I would be greatly appreciated.
Adjustment refers to the six orientations to which the watch is adjusted. Dial Up, Dial Down, Pendant Up, Pendant Down, Pendant Left, and Pendant Right. Some are adjusted to one orientation. Some have multiple adjustments. The screws on the balance wheel are used to perform some of this.
There also is a distinction between when you see the verbiage "Adjusted for [number] positions" versus "[number] adjustments." The former explicitly conveys that the watch was calibrated to run true for a specific number of positions, while the latter implies that adjusting for temperature and adjusting for shock is included in that count.
I have an E Howard Watch Co from Boston and am obsessed. I am stunned by that second watch you picked up. The Elgin with the open case back. If you still have it and are interested selling it, I’d love to connect with you and see if I can Purchase it from you.
i started collecting old watches. i work in a thrift store so we sometimes get old pocket watches and we have a rule that when we price it then it has to be in the store for 3 days before we can by it. but i often waited alot longer because i was not sure i wanted it at all but when i discovered that one of them was silver and the other one was also valuable but not as much as the silver so i ended up buying both of them. and i sold one and made back all money i used on both of them and i kept the silver one. today i got another good find for only 5 dollars. olma pocket watch. very hard to find information about those ones but i feel it may be rare and i have seen they also have value. this one is very tiny and probably from after ww2 so its a bit newer. does anyone else like collecting pocket watches? i would like to read what people collect or have collected if anyone ever reads this
I have a pocket watch but don't know which model is that. "Galonne 39315" inside of first case, "Remontoir Metal" on second case, carved face of a lady on most outer case.
Hello, I just was given a watch nearly identical to the one you were showing off (Elgin 1902 4 adjustment, 15 jewels) and it stops keeping time if tilted… Is this a common issue and should I get it repaired?? I think it would be cool to rock a pocket watch but was wondering if it would be silly to work on one with only 4 adjustments and 15 jewels…idk let me know what you think
@@Valox it means there are 15 jewels contained somewhere in your particular watch. Depending on what year make model and manufacturer. Jewels are the very smooth bearing surfaces that moving parts move against. They can be crystals, sapphires, rubies....can be very small and usually red, maybe slightly purple in color, amongst others. And they are virtually impervious to wear but can be chipped cracked or damaged. Usually by dropping.
@@Valox Good quality pocket watches start at 15j, so it is at the lower end of good movements, but still desirable. If it is a branded pocket watch if you look at the serial number on the movement then go to pocketwatchdatabase.com/ and look it up, it will tell you everything you need to know.
At the $100 pocket watch level, this will be 100% an emotional purchase. Don't buy it unless it speaks to you. Enjoy the hunt, after you buy it the fun is over.
Well you can still have some fun. Just got a history lesson up over here about a very cool pocket watch FOB I found metal detecting. Got a rich history. From the longest running shoe co in US history at 169 years. Now I need a watch! Ignore the hair piece, tried to make it fun.
Vintage or late model? 100 bucks can get you a nice vintage if you want but get one that is running when you buy, then immediately get it serviced, pronto. I regularly run a Hamilton from 1900. But also be aware it is an old watch. Try not to drop or lose it! And wind every day just before bed. You'll love carrying it and compliments start coming in. They're just alot of fun. Enjoy.
@@machinistmikethetinkerer4827 Nope, Stephen Putney Shoe Co, Battle Axe Shoes. Have a video on it here at my channel if interested, it's a cool history lesson, please excuse my goofy hair piece.
I found one of my grandfather's Hamilton Railway Specials from when he worked on the railroad. As near as I can tell from a bit of research, it's a 992b model 15. I can't find much more information beyond that and am having a hell of a time opening the back to find more information on it. Any advice?
Less than 10% of pocket watches were all "gold".. The vast majority are "gold filled" or "rolled gold"..Gold watch cases are almost always stamped with the gold content, plated are not.. None of these watches are "gold" (would be locked away behind glass as they shoot up well over $1000 for most.. 10/14kt are typical plating alloy.. They will a lot of times show a "warranty" period for that plating on the watch case (vintage pocket watch makers did not produce cases, only movements, cases were an additional purchase)
@@randalljames1 Thank you for that info. It just always struck me odd that for as old as it is, it is not tarnished as you would 'think' brass would be after decades. Weird.
Adjustment refers to the six orientations to which the watch is adjusted. Dial Up, Dial Down, Pendant Up, Pendant Down, Pendant Left, and Pendant Right. Some are adjusted to one orientation. Some have multiple adjustments. Adjustment can also mean adjusted for temperature.
The one with the crystal case back is a Salesman. Rare and fetch top dollar. I too, would not last long in that shop. I'd be the first homeless guy with 50 pocket watches on him lol
Adjustments in a watch movement means it has been adusted in various positions and temperatures. For example the point of attachment of the balance spring effects timekeeping in pendant up or down or left and right. This is just one adjustment. An overcoil balance spring gives a better isochronal function meaning that the balance amplitude will not vary no matter how many turns of the mainspring, ie, fully wound or half wound, etc. Changing the shape of the terminal curve is another adjustment. The poise of the balance (making the balance heavy at a certain point) effects timekeeping Then we come to temperature adjustments. In some older watches a blued steel balance spring and a cut compensated balance of two materials usually of brass and steel fused together was used to offset the effects of temperature. In heat a blued steel balance spring would lose it elasticity and to compensate for this the bi metalic balance rim would move inwards and in cold would move outwards to compensate for the increased elasticity of the balance spring. These adjustments were made by screws placed on the balance rim and could be made to increase or decrease the compensation depending on which part of the rim these screws were placed. An error existed in these old watches which meant if the watch was adusted for extreme cold and then in high heat an error would be apparent in between these two adjustments and this error is called middle temperature error. Metallurgy has all but solved the problem of temperature variation with metals that do not expand with heat and balance springs that do not change their characteristics in varying temperatures. But we do not live in a perfect world so mechanical timekeeping has its limitations and the closer to perfection we get something else is borne to ensure we never achieve it. I hope this is of some little help.
I'm not convinced by the number of jewels being in a fixed relation to value. A four jewel fusee pocket watch from the 1830s might be worth far more than a later 19 jewel watch.
I think you're right. But t likely is true for similar ages amongst similar brands. A pin pallet watch won't be the same value as a jewelled pallet watch.
Yes. Number of jewels relates to the quality of the movement, but collectability and price are influenced by other factors such as rarity, condition, style, etc.
@@OneEyedJack01 I have a Wesclox bulls eye pocket watch and it is the cheapest watch made ever probably. No jewels at all. Sounds like an alarm clock running. To me it is interesting because it was one of the prizes I never got when I had my paper route years ago. I think you got one as a choice of things you received for being the best paperboy. I must have thrown to many papers in the bushes or left out too many inserts to get one…
Me encantan esos relojes antiguos, no tengo muchos porque en mi ciudad y sumamente difícil encontrarlos, tengo 2 elgin uno de los años 20s de 17 jewels y otro de 23 jewels que creo es de los años 50s o 60s que se le tiene que quitar la tapa del dial, para ajustar la hora con una palanquita, y otro que la marca dice ERMA como de los años 50s,saludos desde Tampico Tamaulipas México
My great aunt gave me a Tiffany & Co. 18K gold open-face pocket watch with an engine-turned back. It displayed the time had a small second-hand dial and you could clock 2 racehorses at the same time with 2 stopwatch functions in 5ths of a second. It was stolen in a burglary from my home in 1977 along with a 1903A3 Remington rifle serial # 4168729. I am offering a reward to anybody who can locate either item.
They are all over the board, both men and women's. Some as small as maybe 5/8 to the big boys 18S upwards of 2 1/2 ...and they have a measuring system that's all their own. Unique.
pocketwatchdatabase.com/reference/sizes shows you the sizes. It may surprise you that they did make tiny pocket watches in the 1800s, I have a silver French watch from the 1840s that is about a 12/0s which is 20mm.
I also have a silver English pocket watch from 1883 that is sized in the 30s, it is a massive beast of a watch, I wear it at weddings. Watches came in all different sizes, when I first started collecting them I was surprised at all the different sizes. By the beginning of the 1800s pocket watches were 300 years old. The first pocket watch was made by Peter Henlein in 1510 in Nuremberg. The first wristwatch was for Queen Elizabeth who was presented with a 'wristwatch' by Robert Dudley, the Earl of Leicester as a New Year's gift in 1571.
Buenas tardes amigo estoy pendiente de los vídeos que pone el su página veo que tiene muchos relojes de bolsillo es para preguntarle si tiene repuestos para uno el escribo de Bogotá Colombia su amigo Juan carlos. Espero me conteste gracias 👍
I don’t understand “railroad quality”. I have heard of a 21 jewel 💎 watch, but it seems to be only available in wristwatch ⌚️ form. I’ve only owned cheap pocket watches, such as Westclox Scotty’s, and Colibri’s, which are battery 🔋 operated. Westclox Scotty is a wind-up watch. No jewels 💎, but with decent care, I think 🤔 a Westclox Scotty can last from kindergarten, to 12th grade (graduation 👨🎓). The battery operated Colibri pocket watch might last the same time, but I think 🤔 a Westclox Scotty would outlast it. Happy Halloween 🎃👻. Your friend, Jeff.
To me jewel counting only matters when for the less expensive pocket pieces and even then, you still have to factor in other info. 15, 17, 20...etc doesn't always mean quality or being more collectible. Yes having jewels made the watch more accurate back in those days. Less friction=better accuracy. Jewels were a salesman's tool to well....sell. look at the Ingersoll "Dollar Watch" for example. They revolutionized the watch industry back then because the Ingersoll brothers were salesmen and they massed produced good watches for cheap so everyone could own one. Pocket watches were the cell phones and smart watches of their day. But they were only around for about 30 years. Because of those two things they are becoming very collectible. Back then they only cost, "a buck." I believe some of their models only had 2-3 jewels and they sold tens of thousands and contributed to our industrial age.
I have an ancient time clock of my great grandfather ، Watch name is ( correct meridian watch Swiss made omega) It's a pocket watch You can tell who invented this watch.Can you tell in which country it was made, this watch is almost more than 100 years old
It could be a hunter case, lever set type. In that case you have bezels and backs to unscrew. Or you'll need a watchmakers knife to open a front, front cover or back back cover. If it has a hinge on it it might be stem-open type, or both. If it's old, you must be careful with any of these methods-fine threads, hinges, crystals, stems they are all easy to damage. You also have to pay attention to the stems too. Could be screw out type, or part of the movement and are easily snapped. Good luck and be careful!
Not everyone can afford a collection of railroad quality pocket watches! If you just enjoy pocket watches for yourself and not as an investment, 7 jewels and up are fine! They are somewhat easier to work on, if you have the desire to learn to service them yourself!
I understand your question, but those adjustments and jewels are not the only things to consider. Also consider the engraving and the over all quality. Usually the higher the adjustment it will automatically have more jewels. Also wanna make sure it's keeping time accurately. Just one number of 15 or 19 is not the tiebreaker, other factors to always consider. Good luck in your search for collectible pocket pieces!
Never buy a pocket watch from Ebay seller "antiques on the side" in Canada. Bought a watch from them as my teenage son's Christmas present. They claimed in the ad and in email that the watch worked and kept reliable time. It did neither. Sent me a busted watch.
I bought a 18 Karat gold pocket watch, solid gold, from 1906, and it’s still working, honestly i don’t care if it dosent work, the only thing I care of is the type of metal
People have sentimental reasons for owning a watch too. I just purchased a non running Hampden watch works from 1901. I am from Canton, Ohio where it was made. It is over 120 YEARS old now and I just love it! Our main highway, Interstate 77, goes right over where the factory was! OK enough of my BS! Great vid!
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I know what you mean, I got a 1886 French key wound watch. Been in the family so there’s no way I’d ever sell it, it’s sad to see what some people will do with their family heirlooms though.
@Benboi Literally just bought one of those at an antique shop earlier today. I wonder how similar ours are. Lol
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I would send it to someone and see if they can get it running
I have a 1907 Elgin railroad watch that was my great grandfathers who worked on the railroad in the early/mid 1900s. It’s a 23 jewel. Still works flawlessly! I love it!
Have been collecting for 50 years , so much more affordable and equally interesting as wristwatches!
Hello i have 2 pocket watches one of them is waltham i dont know if its worth anything and want to talk about it with someone who knows about them
never mind i looked more into it turns our its a military hand stop watch issued by the british army back in ww2 , i dont want the watch let me know if interested
Plus their size makes for a great starting point for learning watch repair
For me the mechanical sound fits the owner... I guess in a way, the watch finds you. In the old days they would listen carefully to the sound to hear if it needed rewinding. Some would use this sound to find the watch that matched them. All the glimmer and status cannot compare to the beauty of a watch that matches the heart and rhythm of its owner. Time is really an experience and the watch can control how you experience it... that is for me the true beauty of a beating mechanical clock. Its almost like its symbolize the synchronization of man and machine.
Vintage (around WWII) Rolex/Cortebet pocket watches had 15 jewels, and so did Soviet Molnija ones (did I see you having Molnija as well?). Very precise timekeepers.
Yeah, nothing wrong with 15 jewels, all to do with the movement architecture and if they can design it well to run accurately with 15 then great.
With wrist watches I have a 29 jewel one, but that's due to the day, date and power reserve subdial complications.
@@G1NZOU I have one with infinite jewels. It keeps perfect time but damn is it heavy!!
Lovely video. I wouldn't last 2 minutes in this shop, I'd buy them all!
You’re probably welcome to do so.
ha ha me too weather i liked the watchn or not lol
I have a Lord Elgin 14k pocket watch 21 jewels with Chevrolet logo for 25 years of service from 1927 to 1953 and I am wanting to sell it.
Hello i have 2 pocket watches don’t know if they are worth anything can you contact me in any way to talk about them i can show u them
never mind i looked more into it turns our its a military hand stop watch issued by the british army back in ww2 , i dont want the watch let me know if interested
RR grade would usually entail that it also be “lever set” meaning you have to remove the front of the watch to reveal a little pull out lever to allow you to set the hands. This function is mean to prevent someone from trying to fudge the time for their time tables to meet, and also prevented the watch from being accidentally stopped by the crown being pulled out by accident.
Some JNR (Japan National Railway and other Japanese railways) even go as far as “second setting” when they had their own standards of time keeping for the rail road.
Pocket watches are so neat.
I only have one that I purchased three years ago. A Gotham railway classic. 17 jewels. Keeps perfect time.
how to often do you have to wind it and stuff? , does it ever get annoying ?
I read someplace that you didn’t need so many jewels on a normal watch. They are the bearings and since the larger wheels only turn slowly and not as frequently you don’t really need them so they are just for prestige. Railway watches are a cut above because they had to be accurate by law.
@@alirvng6575You have to wind it everyday. I don't find it annoying. If you are going to buy a pocket watch it has to be mechanical. A battery powered pocket watch is just wrong.
I like the omega pocket watch that you were picking…. that once is so beautiful and rare
Never had one, saw them as being grand dad watches on chains, my late father never had one, found this film informative, thanks for posting.
My grandads watch was silver with a gold chain. You only see the chain unless you are looking at it to see what time it is.
E.Howard Pocket watches were of the highest quality for their time ,and were mostly 15 jewels. Key wind E. Howard pocket watches are highly sought after first because of their quality ,second because of the limited watches that were made !
You answered what I was looking for. Thank you. Off to my project.
I have a Waltham hunter pocket watch, originally a half hunter but changed for a full hunter. Watch is dated to 1885, case is 1932. 10 inch chain with large jewel. Sentimental value i guess for me only but been in my family since 1910.
Very informative, thanks for the info !
When I was 11 My dad was killed. My mom gave me his Lord Elgin pocket watch. Three months ago my house was broken into. They took his watch. It was the only thing I had from him.
Early elgin were even lower in jewel count and adjustments, but these were made far before Ball introduced the railroad standard he lobbied to create.
Wonderful video! Fun!!
Nice video. Appreciate you sharing. Thank you!
Great video, have you ever came across watches from the fredonia or peoria watch co?
I have a WW1 era English pilots watch with luminated markings. Looks great and feels just as good in the hand.
Check their radioactivity. It's serious
Just bought my first pocket watch. From Patek Philippe- can’t wait to show you all
Hi i’m Ben i’m just getting into pocket watches and i really like your videos. They are interesting and informative. Hey i was wanting to ask you maybe you know the answer to this question. But do you know what was probably the most popular pocket watch size during WWll? Like that the soldiers would’ve had?
Did not know what you meant when saying 5-6 adjustments & 19+ Jewels until you opened the back. I have an interest in general antiques and always appreciate the education. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome. Glad you learned something, it's all about sharing the knowledge. There are a lot of great pocket watches, sometimes the brand will trump the adjustments or jewels. Also precious metals naturally will be more expensive of a pocket watch.
Adjustments were positional and at different temps, for a determined time. Which we still do today, although alot faster with 21st century technology. That stuff all affects the accuracy and power reserve of the piece. 5 adjustments are good, the number goes up, the better. Adjustments and tests are two different things. Did they really "adjust" them or just test them? Again, it could have been just a salesman thing. The one and only true standard enforced was railroad grade which was tests AND adjustments made to synchronize engineers and conductors watches to remedy all the crashes.
Also remember, these adjustments were done ONCE, at the factory, just before being released for sale. Unless the owners over 100+ years brought it in for a very expensive test every year, those adjustments are long since gone..that's part of the history and allure of these damn things. They're addicting! Lol
I probably want to start a collective process with pocket watches but I do want a personal one (to keep on at all times), but idk what I want. I had people tell me that it would call yo me but I haven’t found one yet. Any ideas? I want my first one to be very personal, and be better if I could get one custom made (or not seeing how I can never settle in a single design)
“ooOOOh” that was adorable lmao
Hopefully you see this comment. I found a open face pocket watch that says it’s 10k gold and 21 gem and the serial number says it’s from 1924. It still works and is absolutely beautiful.
It says bunn specialty, I believe the man who owned it was a railway worker I assume train operator.
Any idea what it’s worth? I can provide more info if needed, or even do a video if you could help me I would be greatly appreciated.
He completely overlooked the Dennison cased 'Half Hunter' (top row 4th from the left)
Adjustment refers to the six orientations to which the watch is adjusted. Dial Up, Dial Down, Pendant Up, Pendant Down, Pendant Left, and Pendant Right. Some are adjusted to one orientation. Some have multiple adjustments. The screws on the balance wheel are used to perform some of this.
There also is a distinction between when you see the verbiage "Adjusted for [number] positions" versus "[number] adjustments." The former explicitly conveys that the watch was calibrated to run true for a specific number of positions, while the latter implies that adjusting for temperature and adjusting for shock is included in that count.
I have an E Howard Watch Co from Boston and am obsessed. I am stunned by that second watch you picked up. The Elgin with the open case back. If you still have it and are interested selling it, I’d love to connect with you and see if I can Purchase it from you.
0:33 Can you tell me what brand that watch is and how much it costs. Thanks in advance.
Where can I buy the pocket watch in your video?
i started collecting old watches. i work in a thrift store so we sometimes get old pocket watches and we have a rule that when we price it then it has to be in the store for 3 days before we can by it. but i often waited alot longer because i was not sure i wanted it at all but when i discovered that one of them was silver and the other one was also valuable but not as much as the silver so i ended up buying both of them. and i sold one and made back all money i used on both of them and i kept the silver one. today i got another good find for only 5 dollars. olma pocket watch. very hard to find information about those ones but i feel it may be rare and i have seen they also have value. this one is very tiny and probably from after ww2 so its a bit newer. does anyone else like collecting pocket watches? i would like to read what people collect or have collected if anyone ever reads this
Starting a collection soon!
I have a pocket watch but don't know which model is that. "Galonne 39315" inside of first case, "Remontoir Metal" on second case, carved face of a lady on most outer case.
Yes a nice display.
Hello, I just was given a watch nearly identical to the one you were showing off (Elgin 1902 4 adjustment, 15 jewels) and it stops keeping time if tilted…
Is this a common issue and should I get it repaired??
I think it would be cool to rock a pocket watch but was wondering if it would be silly to work on one with only 4 adjustments and 15 jewels…idk let me know what you think
I’m definitely going to keep the watch for sentimental reasons but don’t know if it’s worth attempting to repair
Probably has a broken balance staff!! Probably 350.00 or less too service & repair. Get it fixed & enjoy it.
Nothing wrong with a 17 Jewel movement. Many of the earlier 17 j were RR approved.
guy usa do u know what a 15 jewel movement means? Cause thats what I have
@@Valox it means there are 15 jewels contained somewhere in your particular watch. Depending on what year make model and manufacturer. Jewels are the very smooth bearing surfaces that moving parts move against. They can be crystals, sapphires, rubies....can be very small and usually red, maybe slightly purple in color, amongst others. And they are virtually impervious to wear but can be chipped cracked or damaged. Usually by dropping.
Mischka ah ok, thank you
@@Valox Good quality pocket watches start at 15j, so it is at the lower end of good movements, but still desirable.
If it is a branded pocket watch if you look at the serial number on the movement then go to pocketwatchdatabase.com/
and look it up, it will tell you everything you need to know.
The watch you are handling, what is the size? 16s ?
And yet, so many fine late 19th century silver pocket watches featuring 7 jewels are worth 10x the watches on display in this shop.
Great introduction video, I’m looking to buy a watch for more daily use than strictly collecting, any recommendations within the $100USD range?
At the $100 pocket watch level, this will be 100% an emotional purchase. Don't buy it unless it speaks to you. Enjoy the hunt, after you buy it the fun is over.
Well you can still have some fun. Just got a history lesson up over here about a very cool pocket watch FOB I found metal detecting. Got a rich history. From the longest running shoe co in US history at 169 years. Now I need a watch! Ignore the hair piece, tried to make it fun.
Vintage or late model? 100 bucks can get you a nice vintage if you want but get one that is running when you buy, then immediately get it serviced, pronto. I regularly run a Hamilton from 1900. But also be aware it is an old watch. Try not to drop or lose it! And wind every day just before bed. You'll love carrying it and compliments start coming in. They're just alot of fun. Enjoy.
@@TheBlackSheepDiaries Red Wing?
@@machinistmikethetinkerer4827 Nope, Stephen Putney Shoe Co, Battle Axe Shoes. Have a video on it here at my channel if interested, it's a cool history lesson, please excuse my goofy hair piece.
Where was this shop at?
I have waltham 1882 pocket gold watch
What a pity that in Brazil it is forbidden to import used items. Aside from the extortionate tax burden. I would love to collect pocket watches.
I found one of my grandfather's Hamilton Railway Specials from when he worked on the railroad. As near as I can tell from a bit of research, it's a 992b model 15. I can't find much more information beyond that and am having a hell of a time opening the back to find more information on it. Any advice?
Send it to me and I’ll have a look at it. 😀
Take a rubber jar lid opener ! The majority of those un screw. Just be careful . blessings.
Been looking for a nice pocket watch for my dad, but don't know where to find them. Any suggestions?
Pawn shops
Pls do mention prices.
one thing I don’t know about pocket watch is , is it ever run out of battery??? or is it need battery??? please share information for me…. Thank
Are some made with brass vs gold? I have a 21-jewel Waltham pocket watch that works, but I haven't taken it to a jeweler to see if it's gold vs brass.
Brass will tarnish, while gold will not.
@@braydenlangham5154 It's not tarnished, but I have searched every inch and found no carat stamp to indicate that it is gold.
Less than 10% of pocket watches were all "gold".. The vast majority are "gold filled" or "rolled gold"..Gold watch cases are almost always stamped with the gold content, plated are not..
None of these watches are "gold" (would be locked away behind glass as they shoot up well over $1000 for most.. 10/14kt are typical plating alloy.. They will a lot of times show a "warranty" period for that plating on the watch case (vintage pocket watch makers did not produce cases, only movements, cases were an additional purchase)
@@randalljames1 Thank you for that info. It just always struck me odd that for as old as it is, it is not tarnished as you would 'think' brass would be after decades. Weird.
I would say the base line for the good quality pocket watches is about 15 jewels and up, the best rail road quality usually has 21
Apart from regulation, beat error and possibly amplitude, what else is there that has to be adjusted?
Adjustment refers to the six orientations to which the watch is adjusted. Dial Up, Dial Down, Pendant Up, Pendant Down, Pendant Left, and Pendant Right. Some are adjusted to one orientation. Some have multiple adjustments. Adjustment can also mean adjusted for temperature.
What does jewels and adjustments represent ?
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I have omega pocket watch with chain with 18k gold plz tell me the price
Where can i find well made solid gold or silver pocket watches
For any hand wound watch the minimum required jewels should be 17. Any additional jewels are just cap jewels.
The one with the crystal case back is a Salesman. Rare and fetch top dollar. I too, would not last long in that shop. I'd be the first homeless guy with 50 pocket watches on him lol
Some pimps trade in jewelry (govt steals cash when arrested) you can be the pocket watch pimp
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What if a watch just says "adjusted"? Thank you for the video!! It does say 17 jewels!
Adjustments in a watch movement means it has been adusted in various positions and temperatures. For example the point of attachment of the balance spring effects timekeeping in pendant up or down or left and right. This is just one adjustment. An overcoil balance spring gives a better isochronal function meaning that the balance amplitude will not vary no matter how many turns of the mainspring, ie, fully wound or half wound, etc. Changing the shape of the terminal curve is another adjustment. The poise of the balance (making the balance heavy at a certain point) effects timekeeping
Then we come to temperature adjustments. In some older watches a blued steel balance spring and a cut compensated balance of two materials usually of brass and steel fused together was used to offset the effects of temperature. In heat a blued steel balance spring would lose it elasticity and to compensate for this the bi metalic balance rim would move inwards and in cold would move outwards to compensate for the increased elasticity of the balance spring. These adjustments were made by screws placed on the balance rim and could be made to increase or decrease the compensation depending on which part of the rim these screws were placed.
An error existed in these old watches which meant if the watch was adusted for extreme cold and then in high heat an error would be apparent in between these two adjustments and this error is called middle temperature error.
Metallurgy has all but solved the problem of temperature variation with metals that do not expand with heat and balance springs that do not change their characteristics in varying temperatures. But we do not live in a perfect world so mechanical timekeeping has its limitations and the closer to perfection we get something else is borne to ensure we never achieve it.
I hope this is of some little help.
I'm not convinced by the number of jewels being in a fixed relation to value. A four jewel fusee pocket watch from the 1830s might be worth far more than a later 19 jewel watch.
I think you're right. But t likely is true for similar ages amongst similar brands. A pin pallet watch won't be the same value as a jewelled pallet watch.
Yes. Number of jewels relates to the quality of the movement, but collectability and price are influenced by other factors such as rarity, condition, style, etc.
@@OneEyedJack01 I have a Wesclox bulls eye pocket watch and it is the cheapest watch made ever probably. No jewels at all. Sounds like an alarm clock running. To me it is interesting because it was one of the prizes I never got when I had my paper route years ago. I think you got one as a choice of things you received for being the best paperboy. I must have thrown to many papers in the bushes or left out too many inserts to get one…
Me encantan esos relojes antiguos, no tengo muchos porque en mi ciudad y sumamente difícil encontrarlos, tengo 2 elgin uno de los años 20s de 17 jewels y otro de 23 jewels que creo es de los años 50s o 60s que se le tiene que quitar la tapa del dial, para ajustar la hora con una palanquita, y otro que la marca dice ERMA como de los años 50s,saludos desde Tampico Tamaulipas México
My great aunt gave me a Tiffany & Co. 18K gold open-face pocket watch with an engine-turned back. It displayed the time had a small second-hand dial and you could clock 2 racehorses
at the same time with 2 stopwatch functions in 5ths of a second. It was stolen in a burglary from my home in 1977 along with a 1903A3 Remington rifle serial # 4168729. I am offering a reward to anybody who can locate either item.
I doubt you'll ever be reunited with it.
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What was the typical diameter of a pocket watch in the 1800's?
They are all over the board, both men and women's. Some as small as maybe 5/8 to the big boys 18S upwards of 2 1/2 ...and they have a measuring system that's all their own. Unique.
pocketwatchdatabase.com/reference/sizes shows you the sizes.
It may surprise you that they did make tiny pocket watches in the 1800s, I have a silver French watch from the 1840s that is about a 12/0s which is 20mm.
I also have a silver English pocket watch from 1883 that is sized in the 30s, it is a massive beast of a watch, I wear it at weddings. Watches came in all different sizes, when I first started collecting them I was surprised at all the different sizes.
By the beginning of the 1800s pocket watches were 300 years old. The first pocket watch was made by Peter Henlein in 1510 in Nuremberg.
The first wristwatch was for Queen Elizabeth who was presented with a 'wristwatch' by Robert Dudley, the Earl of Leicester as a New Year's gift in 1571.
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I want to sold out.Please How can i sell this pocket watch?
I recenty buy one Molnija 3602 with 18 jewels from my reserch I find that I'm having one form 80s/90s
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I have the same thing’s but from a long time we would like to sell it
I don’t understand “railroad quality”. I have heard of a 21 jewel 💎 watch, but it seems to be only available in wristwatch ⌚️ form. I’ve only owned cheap pocket watches, such as Westclox Scotty’s, and Colibri’s, which are battery 🔋 operated. Westclox Scotty is a wind-up watch. No jewels 💎, but with decent care, I think 🤔 a Westclox Scotty can last from kindergarten, to 12th grade (graduation 👨🎓). The battery operated Colibri pocket watch might last the same time, but I think 🤔 a Westclox Scotty would outlast it. Happy Halloween 🎃👻. Your friend, Jeff.
So if ones looking you don't want a 21j or 19
To me jewel counting only matters when for the less expensive pocket pieces and even then, you still have to factor in other info. 15, 17, 20...etc doesn't always mean quality or being more collectible. Yes having jewels made the watch more accurate back in those days. Less friction=better accuracy. Jewels were a salesman's tool to well....sell. look at the Ingersoll "Dollar Watch" for example. They revolutionized the watch industry back then because the Ingersoll brothers were salesmen and they massed produced good watches for cheap so everyone could own one. Pocket watches were the cell phones and smart watches of their day. But they were only around for about 30 years. Because of those two things they are becoming very collectible. Back then they only cost, "a buck." I believe some of their models only had 2-3 jewels and they sold tens of thousands and contributed to our industrial age.
I have antique omega pocket watch broken.
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It's a pocket watch
You can tell who invented this watch.Can you tell in which country it was made, this watch is almost more than 100 years old
I have a 100 year old pocket watch but I don’t think it’s worth something
And it needs a key or something to open so that you can adjust it
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It could be a hunter case, lever set type. In that case you have bezels and backs to unscrew. Or you'll need a watchmakers knife to open a front, front cover or back back cover. If it has a hinge on it it might be stem-open type, or both. If it's old, you must be careful with any of these methods-fine threads, hinges, crystals, stems they are all easy to damage. You also have to pay attention to the stems too. Could be screw out type, or part of the movement and are easily snapped. Good luck and be careful!
Mischka thanks! I’ll try to get a watchmaker open it for me so I don’t break something
@@gnaal- sure. Keep us posted.
Mischka yeah will do but gotta wait til I can find a watchmaker that’s open
I have a west end watch co Secundus can anyone tell me the worth of this watch
Not everyone can afford a collection of railroad quality pocket watches! If you just enjoy pocket watches for yourself and not as an investment, 7 jewels and up are fine! They are somewhat easier to work on, if you have the desire to learn to service them yourself!
These watches got soul, the soul of their owners!
I’d be broke within five minutes if I was in that shop
I want to sold.How can I sell this watch?
I also want to know how to sell the watch
Thiers alot more that goes in a rr grade beside adjusting jewls dont matter
Who uses them?
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I have Waltham pocket watch 1920
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Is it 19 or 15 jewels? At first you say 19, but at 2:01 it becomes 15. Not trying to be a jerk. Serious question
I understand your question, but those adjustments and jewels are not the only things to consider. Also consider the engraving and the over all quality. Usually the higher the adjustment it will automatically have more jewels. Also wanna make sure it's keeping time accurately. Just one number of 15 or 19 is not the tiebreaker, other factors to always consider. Good luck in your search for collectible pocket pieces!
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Ihave a same watch his colour is white
Where can I buy an antique pocket watch?... I'm broke, but I still want one, so can you help me?
Never buy a pocket watch from Ebay seller "antiques on the side" in Canada. Bought a watch from them as my teenage son's Christmas present. They claimed in the ad and in email that the watch worked and kept reliable time. It did neither. Sent me a busted watch.
I bought a 18 Karat gold pocket watch, solid gold, from 1906, and it’s still working, honestly i don’t care if it dosent work, the only thing I care of is the type of metal
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Smart phones are modern day pocket watches. Change my mind.
Railroad has 17 jewels or more Arabic numbers lever set
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"Um...this one is more of a stopwatch." Um....because that is a stopwatch, Mr. Watch Expert.