My Sogs arnt made in China, must be a cheapie Spyderco have their budget Chinese ones Japanese VG10 Steel American models PM2 Yojimo manic then Taichu Taiwan top ones like the Canis and Gayle Bradley and Drunken many manufacturers use other countries nowadays, you pretty much get what pay for m
How could anyone think that this test is abusive or a misuse of a tool? SOG states that this knife can "make short work of any task" and this is the only reference to the knifes intended purpose. But let's assume it's a combat knife, if it can't handle battoning it can't stand up to combat, a parry against this with a stick is going to break it as will a thousand other things that could occur during combat. And yeah it's a cheap knife but at what price point exactly then does it become UNacceptable for a product to fail during routine use? $20? $50? $200? $500? Cheap to whom? Me? You? Bill Gates? One last thing, to everyone who keeps saying things like "get an axe" I would respond with "get a dictionary" and look up the words "test" and "review" and try really, really hard to figure out what your watching.
i agree with you on your point .Sometimes you may have put a knife under stress in a survival situation any good quality knife should be able to take the brunt of it and still remain intact.
SOG also stated this when they sold them: "Now we have developed along with military consultants an even more economical choice with the Fixation series." If you're dumb enough to buy an knife with economical in the description, I don't think SOG is the one to blame here.
Thank you for your video. It was on my wishlist for quite a while. As it's sold for almost $100 in my country (around USD$70). After seeing this, there is no way I'm gona waste my money on it.
Oh my gosh. This butter knife is selling for around 32 dollars. Then again, my family and friends would be jealous every time I smacked butter on my toast. On a more serious note, I loved your reaction when you broke the knife. XD
From my experience, Save your money, for a few dollars more you can get the best all round do it all knives on the planet. Buy a Essee 6/7 or a Becker Bk 6/7 the Gerber Strong Arm or the tried and true (expensive) Randal. You won’t be disappointed, buy one and done !
XD the moment the blade went flying I laugh and laugh. Well, so it is crap, can't believe SOG is selling that at that price... Even Gerber knives are better. Great video buddy, thanks for taking one for the team 😋
***** Glad you find Gerbers rubbish :-) The only Gerber I have that's any good, is one which takes Stanley blades in it. Every Gerber blade I've had has snapped or chipped badly.
***** Never had a knife from SOG hold up to the kind of punishment I put a cheap Ontario. I had a bowie from them, broke it hacking at a dead birch... bahaha! U dont ALWAYS have to get what u pay for, there are just certain things that people in the know stay away from, Frost cutlery, SOG, Gerber, just the tip of the iceberg.
I do agree that all companies make s#itty knives and good ones, my whole thing is how good the "good" ones are for the money you'd pay for them. The seal pup and tigershark are good knives, but there are guys on ebay that sell comparable if not better knives that they made in their basement for less.
***** as I said, elite is a good knife, but for about the same money, I can get a esee and know that I can do anything with it. Also SP 50 is in the same price range, has an xtra 4.5 inches of blade and will pry a door open if u need it to. The seal pup would be a good knife to have as a small backup in case ur hands are too small to whittle effectively with a real bushcraft knife. Its meant for small tasks, a tactical knife : rope cutting, the casual silent stab in the neck, minor stuff. It is a b!tch to baton a serious piece of wood with a 4 in blade. Even more of a bitch to get a good grip on a pup knife for drawing wood to make a self bow. I've tried it, its why my carry is now a Junglas, RTAK 2 or an SP51 (yes the bigger one, I like real estate dont judge). The side blade is a CS trailmaster vg1 (stainless because I dont use a side blade for main tasks) which hold up just great to any abuse if need arises including gouging oak without loosing the tip. Got it on amazon a few years back for $75 haven't managed to break it since.
$50 what a joke you could buy 2 cold steel GI Tonto's for that price and it wont brake. I have abused one 10X more then this demo and I still have the blade. Batoned a weeks worth of fire wood no problem.
Man! Sog's quality has gone straight down the sh*tt*r, since they've been manufacturing in China. Give me a sharpened fire hardened stick and a piece of flint over a Sog any day of the week!!!
@Tac , you should DEFINITELLY cut the video and only keep the broke section and re-upload it on youtube with this title : SOG TAIWAN/CHINA KNIVES = EPIC BROKE STEEL FAIL you will have millions of thumbs up man !
it lasts longer if you use it what its made for i love sog its exelent for hacking through vines small branches in your way l now i bought the same knife it did break right behind the handel sent it back no charge at all i love the fixation bowie
There are a forum of people who would say you deserve this failure, a knife is not designed to baton wood of any kind, I am not one of those people. I can't imagine how many knife manufacturers have replaced broken blades doing exactly what you're doing here. However, I've batoned wood ten times that size with only two failures, Gerber Bear Grills Ultimate knives (made in China) ring a bell sir. All my Beckers, Ontario's and Esee's have passed with flying colors. I'm sorry for your loss, and I would send it back to China and expect a full refund for my hard earned money. Thanks for sharing this catastrophic failure with us, I for one appreciate it.
Man I love your reactions to the Fails! Always makes me laugh, though its always sad to see any weapon break. Just imagine if this happened on the trail and was your only knife! Fuck that shit!
My idea of youtube gold: watching my man tactical break a knife. I know not to order one of these (I'll keep my kabar from back in my service days), thank you very much!! MORE DESTRUCTION TESTING PLEASE!! It sure is fun to watch!
What a crapy peace of ceapo blade. I belive the problem was the two welding spots on the tang. The welding has chanced the temper of the blade tang. So it snaped right there. Thanks for that expensive vid, Tactical!
I was sure it was gonna snap off and fling back at you. Y'know that blade would still make a good spear head. Oh, and go tell SOG you want your money back.
Not sure how SOG has managed to stay in business all these years, selling dangerous junk. If you are lucky enough to own a first generation SOG from Japan, cherish it.
Good looking out, BT, SOG is a good name too. See if they'll make it right but you're right, that isn't good steel, pot metal is a good call on your part.
Another USMC kinda-copy that also copied the biggest weakness of the original. But when cheap stuff fails and good stuff passes, you know your tests are good. Greetings, Soly
Yep...I was right. DAMN, dude...that sucks!!! Like I said, ANYTHING but FULL TANG construction is junky shit that I would NOT bet my life on...plain and simple. I have beat the hell out of a LOT of knives, and NEVER had a full tang knife fail on me, ever.
I was thinking of getting this knife but ended getting Schrade SCHF10. Please review this product I think this is a good knife for the money. Cheap survival knife that could handle a lot of torture. Please test it maybe I'm wrong. Thanks for your reviews they are awesome!
I swear you see more vids and pics of broken sogs than any other brand. My guess is that to save money they hardened the whole blade (big batch). And a hardened tang can't handle the stress. Its way cheaper to toss these in the oven in big batches than to heat treat them properly.
Lol I jus bought one lol I lover your videos they make me laugh all the time you English is epis in a box 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Thanks for showing me that this knive trash
Man ....seriously , i HOPE he will listen to me and re-edit the video in order to only have it starting at exactly 08:00 to the end of it , and upload it with this title : SOG TAIWAN/CHINA KNIVES = EPIC BROKE STEEL FAIL !!! that will became VIRAL and will be the start of SOG close out! that will be so hilarous man !! lol
Just about every SOG stress test I've seen results in catastrophic failure, no matter what model. Never go with "tacti-cool" knives, because they belong in the comic book ads next to sea monkeys and "x-ray" glasses. For nearly the same price, you can go with the proven KA-BAR 1211, or, if you want to spend some money, the KA-BAR 1281 D2 (tool steel) Extreme Fighting/Utility Knife, both are USA made, the 1211 is 1095 CroVan steel, and that 1281's D2 blade is freaking crazy tough (just for shits and giggles, I used it to split a stone about the size of a football, and it pulverized that stone). Of course, for bushcraft, the KA-BAR Becker BK9 is crazy good if you want to go big. Though I get flack for this, the Gerber Bear Grylls Sheath Knife (folding version of their Ultimate Survival Knife) is actually pretty damned impressive for that low $15-$30 (depending where you buy) price tag, and I'd carry it for survival situations.
***** I'm not familiar with that one. SOG must be doing something right if people are buying their knives for more than props for CoD Cosplay. You never know; sometimes you come across that ironically rare cheap knife that is actually of excellent craftsmanship. Sorta like a folding knife by Workzone Hand Tools I picked up for $3 on the discount rack. I bought it to practice my blade sharpening skills (best to practice on cheap knives before sharpening knives worth over $100, am I right?), and wouldn't you know it, after 2 hours of meticulous edge honing, this thing has blown through my folding knife stress test. I easily sliced horribly thin (rips if even slightly dull) notebook paper, and shaved some arm hair effortlessly, even with a 20 degree angle. I then chipped through a 1" thick dead branch, whittled a twig into feather curls (no serrations on the knife), then whittled a small figurine from a block of wood, even scraping the edge in reverse to act like pseudo sandpaper to give the figurine a smooth finish. After all of that I could still consistently slice that thin paper, and shave some hair off (though not quite as effortlessly). Who'd think a $3 knife (which actually looks really great, polished wood grip and all) would actually be worthy of everyday carry? My point? There must be some SOG out there I haven't heard of yet that can win my trust to be EDC certified by my standards, lol! I wonder which one it is, though? I'm still not a fan of the tacti-cool knives, though, even if it's a great knife. I don't know... If I see "tactical" or "zombie" in the name of a knife, I get totally skeptical, 'cause I just picture marketing saying, "just call it that, and the CoD and CS:GO kiddies will buy it thinking it's not our reject steel that even the Chinese won't buy off of us. After all, they aren't going to tell their mommies they bought a knife and got swindled!" - then the group laughs. Yes, I'm sure that's not how it actually goes down (at least, I hope not), but that's the demographic I imagine would be the targeted, 'cause who ever heard of a millennial actually researching outside of school work? That would require READING!!! **Gasp!** :o Anyway, that became a rant, but whatever; I'll stick by it.
***** Oh, don't get me wrong, I occasionally buy a cheap knife to fill a low impact task, or as a spare I can keep in a drawer, should I feel too lazy/tired to bother with the other knives. I'm just picky about which knifes I'll actually rely on in an emergency. Actually, one such cheap knife is my folding credit card knife that's the same dimensions as a credit card (hence the name). Sometimes I have to be discreet, but still want a blade handy, and it's virtually undetectable short of a thorough search or metal detector. People get irrationally weird around those of us who open-carry a defensive combat/utility/hunting knife, so if you know you're entering a den of irrational folk, it's best to go discreet, and cheap (should you end up getting it confiscated for whatever no-doubt lame reason). Not that that's happened to me, but as a former member of the BSA, "BE PREPARED" still rings clearly in my head. And I admit it, I bought a couple of cheap, totally impractical blades (even with lame names) just purely for their aesthetics, with the only intent being for display/conversation pieces in my home.
lol look up the frost homeland defender i bought it from a hardware store for 15$ and figured i could resell for 30$ well a friend screwed with it and ruined the edge and shine so i decided to not sell it and tarnish my rep for selling decent knives ( lol i know 15 to 30 percent tf kinda rep do i have ? surprisingly good ) so i figured hey its a big cheap knife why not use and abuse it for bieng a 15$ knife and much less a frost knife it held up better than most knives in the 60-80$ range and that ain't no bullshit
the fixation knives are ONLY good for single use stabbings and that's it-just a throw away stabber.. BUT, i do love the Sog knives as long as they are any of the AUS8 steel knives. i seriously doubt if Sog even cryo tempers the fixation series either.
Good old 1211 Ka-Bar, even we use it here (Belgium) they are rather expensive :/ i paid 110€ (120$) for a ka-bar, but it kicks ass and just dulled a bit when i hit a stainless steel nail, but except or that tiny little bur on th edge nothing.. just add some WD-40 sometimes especially during the wetter seasons.
I'm wondering if the spot welds are what weakened the tang. They go through a lot of trouble to heat treat the blade then apply welding heat to the tang to weld the guard on? Hello SOG? On a knife tang that thin I can't see it not weakening the metal. Had to have totally negated the heat treatment. (and since you can see the welds you know they happened after the blade was formed and coated) I'd rather have a guard that rattled than one that's welded to the tang.
Tac I love your videos man! very funny and highly informational. Keep up the good work brother. I was wondering what your thoughts are on the sog trident 2.0? I always take it camping and it's served me well for basic bush tasks (I moved to australia from usa). but I only use it for it's intended use and have never pushed it hard like you do on your reviews, mainly cause I dont want to break that fucker lol. They go for around $300 here in the land down under so it's an expensive thing to break. Any thoughts would be much appreciated, a review would be even better! tc bro
Not to sound rude, but the only knife I've ever broken is a SOG (Gov-Tac). Just accidentally drop it (less than 3 ft) onto the wooden floor on my porch and the pommel broke off from blade... Haven't bought another SOG since...
Hey Tactical, can you do a hard review on the Ontario Blackbird SK-5? Also, I noticed you did a review on the Gerber Bear Grylls Ultimate Knife, but can you do a review on the Ultimate PRO? Im curious how both would hold up. Thanks again! P.S Sorry about your knife dude, that really sucks the big one!
I have had the exact same thing happen with buck knives the grainy pot metal appearance comes from the forging process the metal is a powder till it is heated up Now im wondering about my SOG Machete if its the same shit if so im selling it
Suppose to be a Sog..one of the best makes out there! Instead its "partial" tang weak at the hilt crap. If that was your only blade out in the wild you'd be fucked! For a while now I only buy full "hardcore" tang knives where the tang is as wide as the blade down the handle and don't cut out to half its thickness like that fixation crap! Anyway dude, interesting review glad you showed us blade aficionados a bad knife to avoid.
I have one..theyre junk...same as this one..handle, hilt, and balde completely out of alignment fire out of the box...wont pass mustard.. You can hear the blade vibrating in the video on the big log chop test. Ill never buy another sog again..mine hasnt broken yet..but I'm sure I will.
I swear by the SOG trident tanto pocket knife, but for a fixed blade this is ridiculous. If anybody is going to use a knife as a utility knife get some that are made of tempered T10 or 1095 carbon steel, to my own experience the best working steel there is period. A good example for light duty Kbar, for heavy use BK9, my every day back pack carry never have failed me.
i own several sog knives, and from the moment you showed yours i had a funny feeling about it being fake, then the off center blade you pointed out strengthened my theory, i dont know
***** ya, i try to stay away from their made in china stuff, the knives from taiwan seem to have a better quality control, although i have no real complaints about the jungle warrior, and primitive, and the kukri machete, which i believe are all made in china....at least not for the price
That's shameful, but I would not condemn them for the good stuff they have made. I have Seal Pups and Voodoo Hawks. I would like to buy the Force some day and trust it would be a quality blade. At least I'd hope so :)
If you look at the grain structure of where it Broke at you can tell the quality of the heat treatment on the knife so if you want to learn more about heat treatment then I guess Google it because it is hard to explain with out writing a article
Damn that knife sucks, bro! I think all SOG's "fixation stuff" is garbage, right? Their fixation dagger even bend during a water bottle cut-test, which is epic failure as well :D Awesome review as always Tac! :)
Well you get what you pay for this. It isn't really the brand per say, this knife is relatively cheap on the market...so yeah, these results are expected. Great video btw, funny and informative.
One never gets used to things failing... And SOG has a certain name in the knife community. Can't believe they sell a piece of crap like this! Interesting and valuable in another way: I'm currently searching for a (production) Bowie and now I know at least ONE I'm not going to take into consideration!
BigRedneckPoppa Thanks, man! I've had the chance to handle the San Mai Trailmaster 3 weeks ago. If it just wasn't that expensive! Should really keep CS in mind for some of their less expensive models!
I stopped buying SOG a while ago, and you just proved why.
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@@cbr600rrturbo ....Chinaaaaa !!!! GET OUT OF THERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
My Sogs arnt made in China, must be a cheapie Spyderco have their budget Chinese ones Japanese VG10 Steel American models PM2 Yojimo manic then Taichu Taiwan top ones like the Canis and Gayle Bradley and Drunken many manufacturers use other countries nowadays, you pretty much get what pay for m
And SOG let this leave the factory? What a P.O.S.
SOG Taiwan or China man.....they are not the SMCA we liked back in the late 80's
Ya think that one’s bad? The SOG Tangle is worse.
I have yet to find one of these that isnt garbage..quality control at sog is a joke.
How could anyone think that this test is abusive or a misuse of a tool? SOG states that this knife can "make short work of any task" and this is the only reference to the knifes intended purpose. But let's assume it's a combat knife, if it can't handle battoning it can't stand up to combat, a parry against this with a stick is going to break it as will a thousand other things that could occur during combat. And yeah it's a cheap knife but at what price point exactly then does it become UNacceptable for a product to fail during routine use? $20? $50? $200? $500? Cheap to whom? Me? You? Bill Gates? One last thing, to everyone who keeps saying things like "get an axe" I would respond with "get a dictionary" and look up the words "test" and "review" and try really, really hard to figure out what your watching.
i agree with you on your point .Sometimes you may have put a knife under stress in a survival situation any good quality knife should be able to take the brunt of it and still remain intact.
SOG also stated this when they sold them: "Now we have developed along with military consultants an even more economical choice with the Fixation series." If you're dumb enough to buy an knife with economical in the description, I don't think SOG is the one to blame here.
Thank you for your video. It was on my wishlist for quite a while. As it's sold for almost $100 in my country (around USD$70). After seeing this, there is no way I'm gona waste my money on it.
yeh , thanks tac isnt ? ;)
Kabar is much better for the price.
@@paultorgerson8776 I bought a recon tanto.
@@paultorgerson8776 No Way that's a cheapie
I can’t see how this is better than a cold steel bushman bowie for 20$ and the CS won’t break you
SOG used to make some of the best knifes back in the day from siki Japan. They’re definitely more mediocre these days
mediocre isnt the good word for them right now....SOG company should dissapear in the wind by now
A $25 Schrade would do better
a mora could have done it!
ABSOLUTELY COULD HAVE, EASILY, EVEN THE MORAKNIV CRAFTLINE PRO S
Oh my gosh. This butter knife is selling for around 32 dollars. Then again, my family and friends would be jealous every time I smacked butter on my toast.
On a more serious note, I loved your reaction when you broke the knife. XD
Your reaction was hilarious! Good thing I don't own any .
I'll stick with KABAR.
youll be better off
That knife is a piece of shit! I'll keep my KBAR.
see the KA-BAR potbelly video.
that was prbly a bad heat treat. 1095 doesn't snap like that.
Man, it's a good thing I check if you reviewed a knife before actually buying it! Brother Tac just saved me 65 euro's.
Thanks!
Tac don't cuss much but when the blade snaps, he lets em fly
From my experience, Save your money, for a few dollars more you can get the best all round do it all knives on the planet. Buy a Essee 6/7 or a Becker Bk 6/7 the Gerber Strong Arm or the tried and true (expensive) Randal. You won’t be disappointed, buy one and done !
XD the moment the blade went flying I laugh and laugh. Well, so it is crap, can't believe SOG is selling that at that price... Even Gerber knives are better. Great video buddy, thanks for taking one for the team 😋
ya I think the gerbers & sogs are about the same...poop
***** Glad you find Gerbers rubbish :-) The only Gerber I have that's any good, is one which takes Stanley blades in it. Every Gerber blade I've had has snapped or chipped badly.
***** Never had a knife from SOG hold up to the kind of punishment I put a cheap Ontario. I had a bowie from them, broke it hacking at a dead birch... bahaha! U dont ALWAYS have to get what u pay for, there are just certain things that people in the know stay away from, Frost cutlery, SOG, Gerber, just the tip of the iceberg.
I do agree that all companies make s#itty knives and good ones, my whole thing is how good the "good" ones are for the money you'd pay for them. The seal pup and tigershark are good knives, but there are guys on ebay that sell comparable if not better knives that they made in their basement for less.
***** as I said, elite is a good knife, but for about the same money, I can get a esee and know that I can do anything with it. Also SP 50 is in the same price range, has an xtra 4.5 inches of blade and will pry a door open if u need it to. The seal pup would be a good knife to have as a small backup in case ur hands are too small to whittle effectively with a real bushcraft knife. Its meant for small tasks, a tactical knife : rope cutting, the casual silent stab in the neck, minor stuff. It is a b!tch to baton a serious piece of wood with a 4 in blade. Even more of a bitch to get a good grip on a pup knife for drawing wood to make a self bow. I've tried it, its why my carry is now a Junglas, RTAK 2 or an SP51 (yes the bigger one, I like real estate dont judge). The side blade is a CS trailmaster vg1 (stainless because I dont use a side blade for main tasks) which hold up just great to any abuse if need arises including gouging oak without loosing the tip. Got it on amazon a few years back for $75 haven't managed to break it since.
$50 what a joke you could buy 2 cold steel GI Tonto's for that price and it wont brake. I have abused one 10X more then this demo and I still have the blade. Batoned a weeks worth of fire wood no problem.
Heith Miller yes its shit
+Heith Miller Or a Cold Steel Bushman. Or two True Flight throwers. Or a TF thrower or bushman and have enough left over for a machete.
Heith Miller Batoned a weeks worth of fire wood? How about you buy an axe. That's pure silliness.
get outta here!! Haha. You're awesome Tactical.
Love the vids brother, keep em coming.
Man! Sog's quality has gone straight down the sh*tt*r, since they've been manufacturing in China. Give me a sharpened fire hardened stick and a piece of flint over a Sog any day of the week!!!
Thx for the video. Had this turd in my BOB for years. Always thought it felt cheap and this confirmed it.
This is why I buy bark river. I can not stand sog garbage.
I can not believe it! Is SOG crazy so a scrap to sell?
I never buy again a SOG knife!
Thank you for the test.
Long live our Night Rangers. Still lovin' mine Tac. Thanks.
@Tac , you should DEFINITELLY cut the video and only keep the broke section and re-upload it on youtube with this title : SOG TAIWAN/CHINA KNIVES = EPIC BROKE STEEL FAIL
you will have millions of thumbs up man !
Love this guy... hope we will see him as a guest on MOTPM!
it lasts longer if you use it what its made for i love sog its exelent for hacking through vines small branches in your way l now i bought the same knife it did break right behind the handel sent it back no charge at all i love the fixation bowie
It looks and sounds like it has porcelain mixed in with the steel, that's fricken sad junk and reminds me of the jungle warrior vid that shattered.
Major Fuglycool LOL thats a good one ;)
tac you shown us the BK2 but you havent done a test yet ... and thank you so many great videos
The handle on this shit is like treason! Thanks for the effort dude.
The sog kukri is actually amazing I have one holds an edge amazingly well and takes a beatin
How the fuck could they in good conscience let this leave the factory?
Always cracking me up! Great video! I know I'll never get a poopy sog!
There are a forum of people who would say you deserve this failure, a knife is not designed to baton wood of any kind, I am not one of those people. I can't imagine how many knife manufacturers have replaced broken blades doing exactly what you're doing here. However, I've batoned wood ten times that size with only two failures, Gerber Bear Grills Ultimate knives (made in China) ring a bell sir. All my Beckers, Ontario's and Esee's have passed with flying colors. I'm sorry for your loss, and I would send it back to China and expect a full refund for my hard earned money. Thanks for sharing this catastrophic failure with us, I for one appreciate it.
Agreed, SOG are commercial piece of Junks, kid's knives.
Man I love your reactions to the Fails! Always makes me laugh, though its always sad to see any weapon break. Just imagine if this happened on the trail and was your only knife! Fuck that shit!
Glad I checked before buying. Saved me some money!
holy fuck man as I was flippin through your vids and notice you broke 50k man awww yeaaaaaahh! brother that's AWESOME
Great video Sir! The test was fair, you were not abusing it.
+SmokeRingsPipeDreams thanks
This is why if you want a rat tail knife design, a Ka-Bar will kick anyones ass.
My idea of youtube gold: watching my man tactical break a knife. I know not to order one of these (I'll keep my kabar from back in my service days), thank you very much!! MORE DESTRUCTION TESTING PLEASE!! It sure is fun to watch!
man ... unbelievable !!! good job brother !
What a crapy peace of ceapo blade. I belive the problem was the two welding spots on the tang. The welding has chanced the temper of the blade tang. So it snaped right there. Thanks for that expensive vid, Tactical!
"A little bigger baton." Dude that is not a baton, that is a bludgeoning tool to take out a Sasquatch.
58 bucks, HA! Ontario sp53, sp46 similarly priced. Bk10,9,2 a little more. SOG is junk now.
I was sure it was gonna snap off and fling back at you. Y'know that blade would still make a good spear head. Oh, and go tell SOG you want your money back.
thank you for the tough test I guess we know NOT to spend our hard earned $$$'s on that one.
Not sure how SOG has managed to stay in business all these years, selling dangerous junk. If you are lucky enough to own a first generation SOG from Japan, cherish it.
Their old stuff is excellent. Not this fixation crap
Good looking out, BT, SOG is a good name too. See if they'll make it right but you're right, that isn't good steel, pot metal is a good call on your part.
reminds me of the standard ka-bar fighting knife style of blade I wont ever spend a dime on a sog
crashdummy40 specialy this one
"Oh you over worked it"...
"SHUT THE FUCK UP!"...
lmao
Never go with a CR series steel in a large fixed blade, that crap’s only good for small neck knives or pocket knives.
dam horrible blade! excellent review why I watch your videos to find out what sucks an what holds up to your test nice work as always
Another USMC kinda-copy that also copied the biggest weakness of the original. But when cheap stuff fails and good stuff passes, you know your tests are good.
Greetings,
Soly
Thanks Man
Already had it in my Amazon cart...:-)
Yep...I was right. DAMN, dude...that sucks!!! Like I said, ANYTHING but FULL TANG construction is junky shit that I would NOT bet my life on...plain and simple. I have beat the hell out of a LOT of knives, and NEVER had a full tang knife fail on me, ever.
I was thinking of getting this knife but ended getting Schrade SCHF10. Please review this product I think this is a good knife for the money. Cheap survival knife that could handle a lot of torture. Please test it maybe I'm wrong. Thanks for your reviews they are awesome!
I love the LOTR intro!
I swear you see more vids and pics of broken sogs than any other brand. My guess is that to save money they hardened the whole blade (big batch). And a hardened tang can't handle the stress. Its way cheaper to toss these in the oven in big batches than to heat treat them properly.
Lol I jus bought one lol I lover your videos they make me laugh all the time you English is epis in a box 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Thanks for showing me that this knive trash
Man ....seriously , i HOPE he will listen to me and re-edit the video in order to only have it starting at exactly 08:00 to the end of it , and upload it with this title : SOG TAIWAN/CHINA KNIVES = EPIC BROKE STEEL FAIL
!!! that will became VIRAL and will be the start of SOG close out! that will be so hilarous man !! lol
Thanks tac, can you believe I was going to buy this shit!
My $10 Coleman survival blade from Walmart battons like a champ! Had it for years. You'd think sog would stomp it ...
Just about every SOG stress test I've seen results in catastrophic failure, no matter what model. Never go with "tacti-cool" knives, because they belong in the comic book ads next to sea monkeys and "x-ray" glasses.
For nearly the same price, you can go with the proven KA-BAR 1211, or, if you want to spend some money, the KA-BAR 1281 D2 (tool steel) Extreme Fighting/Utility Knife, both are USA made, the 1211 is 1095 CroVan steel, and that 1281's D2 blade is freaking crazy tough (just for shits and giggles, I used it to split a stone about the size of a football, and it pulverized that stone).
Of course, for bushcraft, the KA-BAR Becker BK9 is crazy good if you want to go big.
Though I get flack for this, the Gerber Bear Grylls Sheath Knife (folding version of their Ultimate Survival Knife) is actually pretty damned impressive for that low $15-$30 (depending where you buy) price tag, and I'd carry it for survival situations.
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I'm not familiar with that one. SOG must be doing something right if people are buying their knives for more than props for CoD Cosplay. You never know; sometimes you come across that ironically rare cheap knife that is actually of excellent craftsmanship. Sorta like a folding knife by Workzone Hand Tools I picked up for $3 on the discount rack. I bought it to practice my blade sharpening skills (best to practice on cheap knives before sharpening knives worth over $100, am I right?), and wouldn't you know it, after 2 hours of meticulous edge honing, this thing has blown through my folding knife stress test. I easily sliced horribly thin (rips if even slightly dull) notebook paper, and shaved some arm hair effortlessly, even with a 20 degree angle. I then chipped through a 1" thick dead branch, whittled a twig into feather curls (no serrations on the knife), then whittled a small figurine from a block of wood, even scraping the edge in reverse to act like pseudo sandpaper to give the figurine a smooth finish. After all of that I could still consistently slice that thin paper, and shave some hair off (though not quite as effortlessly). Who'd think a $3 knife (which actually looks really great, polished wood grip and all) would actually be worthy of everyday carry?
My point? There must be some SOG out there I haven't heard of yet that can win my trust to be EDC certified by my standards, lol! I wonder which one it is, though? I'm still not a fan of the tacti-cool knives, though, even if it's a great knife. I don't know... If I see "tactical" or "zombie" in the name of a knife, I get totally skeptical, 'cause I just picture marketing saying, "just call it that, and the CoD and CS:GO kiddies will buy it thinking it's not our reject steel that even the Chinese won't buy off of us. After all, they aren't going to tell their mommies they bought a knife and got swindled!" - then the group laughs. Yes, I'm sure that's not how it actually goes down (at least, I hope not), but that's the demographic I imagine would be the targeted, 'cause who ever heard of a millennial actually researching outside of school work? That would require READING!!! **Gasp!** :o
Anyway, that became a rant, but whatever; I'll stick by it.
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I occasionally buy a cheap knife to fill a low impact task, or as a spare I can keep in a drawer, should I feel too lazy/tired to bother with the other knives. I'm just picky about which knifes I'll actually rely on in an emergency.
Actually, one such cheap knife is my folding credit card knife that's the same dimensions as a credit card (hence the name). Sometimes I have to be discreet, but still want a blade handy, and it's virtually undetectable short of a thorough search or metal detector. People get irrationally weird around those of us who open-carry a defensive combat/utility/hunting knife, so if you know you're entering a den of irrational folk, it's best to go discreet, and cheap (should you end up getting it confiscated for whatever no-doubt lame reason). Not that that's happened to me, but as a former member of the BSA, "BE PREPARED" still rings clearly in my head.
And I admit it, I bought a couple of cheap, totally impractical blades (even with lame names) just purely for their aesthetics, with the only intent being for display/conversation pieces in my home.
lol look up the frost homeland defender i bought it from a hardware store for 15$ and figured i could resell for 30$ well a friend screwed with it and ruined the edge and shine so i decided to not sell it and tarnish my rep for selling decent knives ( lol i know 15 to 30 percent tf kinda rep do i have ? surprisingly good ) so i figured hey its a big cheap knife why not use and abuse it for bieng a 15$ knife and much less a frost knife it held up better than most knives in the 60-80$ range and that ain't no bullshit
Isnt the kabar d2 made in taiwan ?
the fixation knives are ONLY good for single use stabbings and that's it-just a throw away stabber.. BUT, i do love the Sog knives as long as they are any of the AUS8 steel knives. i seriously doubt if Sog even cryo tempers the fixation series either.
Good old 1211 Ka-Bar, even we use it here (Belgium) they are rather expensive :/ i paid 110€ (120$) for a ka-bar, but it kicks ass and just dulled a bit when i hit a stainless steel nail, but except or that tiny little bur on th edge nothing.. just add some WD-40 sometimes especially during the wetter seasons.
I'm wondering if the spot welds are what weakened the tang. They go through a lot of trouble to heat treat the blade then apply welding heat to the tang to weld the guard on? Hello SOG? On a knife tang that thin I can't see it not weakening the metal. Had to have totally negated the heat treatment. (and since you can see the welds you know they happened after the blade was formed and coated)
I'd rather have a guard that rattled than one that's welded to the tang.
Tac I love your videos man! very funny and highly informational. Keep up the good work brother. I was wondering what your thoughts are on the sog trident 2.0? I always take it camping and it's served me well for basic bush tasks (I moved to australia from usa). but I only use it for it's intended use and have never pushed it hard like you do on your reviews, mainly cause I dont want to break that fucker lol. They go for around $300 here in the land down under so it's an expensive thing to break. Any thoughts would be much appreciated, a review would be even better! tc bro
Not to sound rude, but the only knife I've ever broken is a SOG (Gov-Tac). Just accidentally drop it (less than 3 ft) onto the wooden floor on my porch and the pommel broke off from blade... Haven't bought another SOG since...
Only just seen this 7 years old my SOGs are Great AUS 8 Steel really solid MAC V and SEAL PUP Elite defo not cheap
Was it marketed as a bushcraft knife? The SOG Bowie knifes (and Bowie/clip point blades in general) are meant for cutting people
One reason I never baton thrugh a knot in wood. There harder than any steel knife. I've learned that when I broke my ka bar and my seal pup.
Tactical, please do a video of what you carry when you go in the bush, belt kit, pockets, kind of a woods edc
Love your attitude.
888zzz thanks friend
What a piece of shit. SOG should be ashamed at that price.. great test my man....
So true, not heavy use test and it still broke!!! Wow.
This is why I'd rather stick to Cold Steel.
Hey Tactical, can you do a hard review on the Ontario Blackbird SK-5? Also, I noticed you did a review on the Gerber Bear Grylls Ultimate Knife, but can you do a review on the Ultimate PRO? Im curious how both would hold up. Thanks again!
P.S Sorry about your knife dude, that really sucks the big one!
That thing would be in everyone's nightmares because of how bad it is
I have had the exact same thing happen with buck knives the grainy pot metal appearance comes from the forging process the metal is a powder till it is heated up Now im wondering about my SOG Machete if its the same shit if so im selling it
When you showed how off the knife was. I knew it was going to break.
Those tac welds could have weakened the tang if they ate into ut too far.
SOG stands for “Shitty Obsolete Garbage”
so true
Suppose to be a Sog..one of the best makes out there! Instead its "partial" tang weak at the hilt crap. If that was your only blade out in the wild you'd be fucked! For a while now I only buy full "hardcore" tang knives where the tang is as wide as the blade down the handle and don't cut out to half its thickness like that fixation crap! Anyway dude, interesting review glad you showed us blade aficionados a bad knife to avoid.
Diamond Geezer u got it
I have one..theyre junk...same as this one..handle, hilt, and balde completely out of alignment fire out of the box...wont pass mustard.. You can hear the blade vibrating in the video on the big log chop test. Ill never buy another sog again..mine hasnt broken yet..but I'm sure I will.
I'm done with sog aswell
Well defineatly going to listen to you this time . Lol I should have listend when yo did a reveiw on the sogfari mine warped bad it sucks man
The only sog knife i trust it my sog seal pup, I've had it for years and brought it through hell and back and its still sharp as ever
Do you still have the seal pup ? I'm thinking about buying one.
To be fair, this knife is fairly inexpensive. Plus the fact that you should not be batoning with any knife, it's not for what the knife was designed.
I swear by the SOG trident tanto pocket knife, but for a fixed blade this is ridiculous. If anybody is going to use a knife as a utility knife get some that are made of tempered T10 or 1095 carbon steel, to my own experience the best working steel there is period. A good example for light duty Kbar, for heavy use BK9, my every day back pack carry never have failed me.
i own several sog knives, and from the moment you showed yours i had a funny feeling about it being fake, then the off center blade you pointed out strengthened my theory, i dont know
Suckle MyKnuckle its there cheaper fusion line
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ya, i try to stay away from their made in china stuff, the knives from taiwan seem to have a better quality control, although i have no real complaints about the jungle warrior, and primitive, and the kukri machete, which i believe are all made in china....at least not for the price
That's shameful, but I would not condemn them for the good stuff they have made. I have Seal Pups and Voodoo Hawks. I would like to buy the Force some day and trust it would be a quality blade. At least I'd hope so :)
Wow junk. I had good luck with the trident and flash... but im not sure I will buy another sog after this. Locing my cs bushman
im thinkin the same
Junk, the whole knife was all crooked to begin with.
Hopefully the Seal team is higher quality.
I solved the problem!!??
It's not a ColdSteel SRK!!! Hahah
If you look at the grain structure of where it Broke at you can tell the quality of the heat treatment on the knife so if you want to learn more about heat treatment then I guess Google it because it is hard to explain with out writing a article
Every sog I've ever used looked cool, but chipped super easy
Spot welding the hilt to the tang probably tucked up the heat treatment causing a weak spot
Damn that knife sucks, bro! I think all SOG's "fixation stuff" is garbage, right? Their fixation dagger even bend during a water bottle cut-test, which is epic failure as well :D Awesome review as always Tac! :)
thanks Ben
BAD DAY WHEN YOU GOTTA TAKE YOUR KNIFE HOME IN 2 PIECES. HAHAA
How could a brand with such a rep sell that thing even if it didn't break everything was twisted and off unreal bro
I hear ya
no shit
Are rhey wareenteed ?
I have same one as this an beat it to hell but been thinking of going with kbar next
Well you get what you pay for this. It isn't really the brand per say, this knife is relatively cheap on the market...so yeah, these results are expected. Great video btw, funny and informative.
One never gets used to things failing... And SOG has a certain name in the knife community. Can't believe they sell a piece of crap like this!
Interesting and valuable in another way: I'm currently searching for a (production) Bowie and now I know at least ONE I'm not going to take into consideration!
I have three cold steel Bowie knives , and have nothing but good things to say about them , They are bigger ,more like small machetes
the O.K.C SP-10 Marine Bowie...that's a good one
BigRedneckPoppa Thanks, man! I've had the chance to handle the San Mai Trailmaster 3 weeks ago. If it just wasn't that expensive! Should really keep CS in mind for some of their less expensive models!
Immortalized1 Thanks a lot! Never heard of that one. I'll take a look at it!
Immortalized1 Okay, seems like it's not available in any of our German stores... Would you say it's better than the Ka-Bar Big Brother?