Can Ramlethal take the dog with her?
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Watched this a couple months back and it always just hits me. For those who don't understand this scene: Ramlethal is basically a being with no thoughts on anything whatsoever, no feelings, no opinions, etc. Sin uses the dog to try to get her to express herself and at the time, it doesn't seem like it worked. In this scene it shows Ramlethal actually developed a feeling for the dog and didn't want to part ways with it. Much sadder when you put the whole thing together but hey.
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I'm here 4 years later trying to learn about a character I want to main because I saw her eating a hamburger and thought it was funny. I didn't sign up for this.
Came for funny, came back with existential crisis
You wanted to be unique; you knew what it would take!
_Ramlethal has come to declare war on all your feels..._
Man I just picked her because she had giant swords and a dog I didn't know I'd be getting myself into this
"Sign" I see what you did therr
TLDR: antagonist has a literal "kill the puppy" moment that makes them MORE sympathetic.
"If that information falls into the wrong hands then all my careful calculations will be worth approximately _jack-shit_ ."
I died
Really makes me wish the later versions of this game had English voices.
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Bedman: Here's a new doggo.
Ramlethal: No, *that ain't my dog.*
Sol: Now you understand me, kiddo.
@@ZetsubouGintama damn
@@nisa_rouge Like father like what is honestly his daughter.
This is one of saddest examples of being cruel to be kind...
I agree. But I think Berman was a actually teach Ram of difference to the world so she could see along with other people helping her see how to spread out more than just abandoned one thing of her own world.
Though when bedman did that I thought that was horrible but good at the same time which is basically his personality where I actually like him, despite when he talks complexity well.
*bedman*dumb keyboard
I love that cuz you don't see this type of thing that often. Other games would write as him doing it just for the sake of being a Dick, but he had s purpose. I mean, If a dog she was just starting to get attached to was the smallest painful loss possible necessary to teach her to see herself as a person, then so be It. It was worth it. I mean, he could have killed Sin to give the same example. At least he chose the smallest sacrifice, instead of "see? I killed your friend. Just go make another. Oh but It isn't the same thing, is it? That's right. Aw too bad boohoo"
@@turinmormegil7715 And he clearly took no pleasure in hurting the dog either. Bedman was clearly struggling emotionally through the whole scene himself. He hesitated several times while speaking, which he almost never does.
"How can you ask me to kill this little girl?" is such a good line. Bedman starts seeing a bit of Delilah in Ramlethal right there and suddenly he doesn't know if he can do his job anymore.
I think the moment that I start crying is when Ram reaches out for the Puppy and it backs away because... it just doesn't know her. Even if every aspect of it is 'identical', its memories cannot be replaced. That's the value of a life.
That's the power of it. That's the spirit of it. That's the power of life. - Aqua
thats not entirely what bothered her about the new doggo.
her original doggo she had before bedman killed it would always bite her hand, and in monotone she would of course say..."ow"
god Ram is precious
I ONCE HAD SOME SWEET MEMORIES
I start crying when she starts crying cuz I realize she’s crying like a baby since it’s her first genuine time
Ram has 4 mothers, and 3 of them are the same person.
I just wanted to main the cute girl with big swords why the fuck am I crying now.
eat habuger
@@Goobie303 no little buddy, how about a chilly dog
nuh uhh
Cuz a Doggo died
@@turinmormegil7715 while extremely sad (CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER) not at all the emotional peak of the scene.
"all my careful calculations will be worth approximately jack shit"- I like that line
Gotta admire the fact that, since Ramlethal doesn’t know her own emotions, her sadness face is distorted and not that clear 😭.
its like a baby's cuz in a lot of ways she is like one :D. Emotionally of course.
@@filthyjones6150 she is the killing machine baby we have to protect
SHE DOESNT EVEN KNOW HOW TO CRY
GOD, I HAVE TO HOLD HER AND TELL HER THINGS WILL GET BETTER~!!! OHH, POOR RAM... IT'LL BE ALRIGHT. (Damn, she can barely comprehend what she's experiencing.)
**Cute puppy sounds**
x'D
Bedman: you have yeet your last haww.
*Dead puppy sounds*
man seeing ram cry is heartbreaking. i love ram and elphelt.
Fuck tier lists and all that in-game bullshit. What I want to say is, me too.
Ngl when I’m playing raven and see elphelt cry during his instant kill I laugh
@@skylargoo477 Ok Johnny.
You can effectively dub Bedman as a practitioner of "Necessary evil"
Also, I'm betting Bedman's english VA is Yuri Lowenthal.
Firstly, that's what Bedman's all about. He's trying to break society as a whole and shape it to his will so that he can bring back the dead and nobody will ever have to suffer again (his Absolute World), but that can't be done without trying to destroy the current society and being dubbed as "evil" in the process.
And secondly, you're completely right.
Which means, Yosuke is trying to give Chie a puppy,
I don't think he literally had to kill the dog
_But maaaaaarrrrrssss..._
@@rexflores8461 He killed the dog to teach Ramlethal the value of a life, and therefore her own through loss. That dog meant something to her and despite another one being given to her, it can't replace the original, because it is different.
That dog, just a small puppy, meant so much to her despite the little time they were together, and is not replaceable. and thus she can finally value her own life within similar parameters
Man Yosuke and Chie sure changed
...what? No stop idk why ur saying that
@@katchy4922 The voice actors
@@lawman9039 wait they the same voice really?
@@katchy4922 Yes
I hear yosuke’s va but i dont hear chie’s
I'm sure someone has said it already... This moment perfectly illustrates "Be cruel to be Kind"
Bedman did something horrible to the Magehound in order for Ramlethal to understand the importance of her life. The cruelty of taking away something she cared about, in order for her to understand the value of a life.
Can we talk about how great Bedman's VA is?
Nah, everybody knows about Yuri Lowenthal, guy's everywhere, can hardly walk 5 feet without tripping over one of his performances. But in all seriousness, it takes talent to make it that far in an industry without getting typecast.
@@Schneeregen_ he always plays... no Simon isn't like Bedman.. Minato is way different from Yosuke, Sasuke is world's different than Spiderma- ok you have point
@@firepuppies4086Don't forget about Ben Tennison
really love the "I left you alone five minutes, wtf happened to you?"
good lord, I didn't know the tragic backstory of cute dog win pose. :(
this is yet another beautiful scene in XRD. while Bedman's way of doing this might of been cold at first after going through this and revelator you realize he does everything with the belief he can save everyone who he had murdered,. The people, that dog, everyone and in the end when it was all said and done he was truly a good hearted person, but like Robo-Ky said, his way of doing it was wrong and this is another reason of how he see's things, teaching her how to feel and the value of life and it shows at this point he does have a heart and isn't as cold as the saint maximus
A lot of evidence points to Bedman having Asperger's, which would be one of the reasons why I relate to him so strongly. He's a good-natured person at his core, but he hates society as a whole and desires to change it, and he's so caught up in that regardless of what he does to get it that he will do _anything_ to get it. That sort of black or white thinking is definitely a common trait in ASD, but that's beside the point: if he can do good that won't impact on his calculations, then he's up to do it, like teaching Ramlethal to have emotions.
@@commediaDollArte dang, he has assburgers?
@@givanbilal5864 Most likely
This is one of the many reasons I like Bedman as a character, he's a nice guy, just misguided, but not in the stereotypical way either. And while seeing him be so close to a good guy while not there is annoying, it also adds alot to his charm
The way to instantly tell if someone has emotions: Dogs
0:18 Now that is a sentence🤣
"will be worth approximately jack shit" all that motor mouth and intelligence and he suddenly drops the phrase "jack shit" funny as fuck despite how sad this cutscene is
poor ram... can someone invent a dimensional teleporter? i wanna give the poor girl a hug right after this moment... id say something about saving the dog instead... but im not sure she'd understand what uniqueness meant if that event never happened
bedman explains nfts to ramlethal (2021, Colorized)
"The way to love anything, is to realize it may be lost."
how dare this batshit insane game have storylines like this.
Bedman is a sweetheart for apologizing frfr
Bedman...probably the most difficult to understand...I suppose 'Antihero' I've seen in a long time.
While his methods are at first cruel in appearance, how do you explain to a being raised to have no thought and no opinions to have thoughts an opinions?
You create conflict. You introduce a situation that forces such a being to use terms such as 'why'. And conflict is only brought about by an undesirable outcome. While he COULD have merely created an illusion of killing the dog, in many ways this was the most effective method with the least backlash, because it shows permanent consequence and that there are things that cannot be replaced. It enforces the lesson in a way that makes it all but impossible to forget.
And, greater or smaller the scale, it's a lesson we all learn as well. Things happen that we cannot explain or stop. They create and force connections we did not have before or even chose to ignore. And it is through this that growth develops.
Growth is painful. It is not ever kind or patient. But through growth so to does wisdom and strength develop. It is how you APPLY that growth and the lessons gained therein that determines who you are.
LOL this is the most overdone explanation for something so simple,
he just teaches her it's not dogs but HER emotional connection with THE dog
it's really not that deep
growth is painful? hehehe sounds like you've watched too much anime
@@Hawkstar59 Growth is painful, if you don't think that now just wait 30 years.
Happy Chaos: *starts chuckling*
@@Hawkstar59 Someone was lucky enough to experience pain of isolation among masses and loss of self during his childhood and look, now he's a jackass
@Cobalt Ordinaire Happy Chaos kills bedman, so he's also staring maliciously
Well, it was 4 people and an illness to kill him, but chaos is the #1 offender on the list
...god damnit @3:20 hit and I suddenly understood Necessary Discrepancy and now I'm crying.
By the look of It, everyone here did the same mistake I did:
- Watch Burger cg.
- Find It funni
- Glance at "watch next" and it says "Ramlethal and dog"
- Think: "gotta be funni"
- *.....regret*
1:39 ( cute puppy sounds)
Seeing this scene set bedman in my hall of fame for fighting game characters
I always come back here whenever I'm feeling down.
Bedman would've been a great saviour.
I didn't expect Ram to have this sort of character development...
i'm not crying your crying
Not You yes i am
Opposite Day
The English version sounds so funny, but the original dub is very sad with a lot of emotions.
This scene has me in tears. Well done, Bedman
It's Yosuke (Yuri Lowenthal) and Chie (Erin Fitzgerald) arguing all over again.
And she finally understands.
Oh god the feels man.
So this is the origin story of her Strive winscreen, huh? Strive was my first GG so this was pretty cool to see.
fucking, goddamn onion cutting ninjas, for fuck's sake
i can relate so much with this when i got a new cat i couldnt accept him but it broke me so dam hard that i buyed another cat that i finally accepted but both of them are not a small bit like my first cat
She must protected at all costs.
When ram can form an emotionally forced frown out of sadness, I’m sad too.
Wow, that really hit me right in the feels.
what da dog doin
God dammit
Dying
Getting atomized
Why she crying? why am I crying? I don't even play Guilty Gear, but Im sad now :(
Why is Ramlethal crying? Bedman killed her puppy to teach her how irreplaceable a single individual life is.
Why are _you_ crying? _someone's puppy died!_ jeez, pay attention!
this was my favorite scene in the whole story :-)
I once saw a guilty gear animation where Bedman? Grabs Rammathal's dog throwing it causing it to explode I never understood the context until now
I am in anguish....
I get his intention and I'm honestly touched by his intention....but fuck his methods. But I'd also be lying if I said I didn't think it was an effective method to get his point across.
Bedman Did nothing Wrong
He did what he had to, even if he knew it would be something that would crush a soul.
I know, 4 years old, but; This is unironically true.
He actually completely intended to resurrect *everyone* who had ever died in his pursuit of an absolute world for him and his sister. He was a smug, arrogant bastard about it, but he completely believed his convictions and didn't expect anyone to stay dead.
Then he realized how he was betrayed and had a bit of an emotional breakdown about what that meant for all the people who were dead.
I rarely wanted to hug a fictional character so badly until now
Bedman: kills puppy
John Wick would like to know your location...
Shit, now I'm crying.
man just disasembled a dog lol
UPDATE: It seems she can!
Goddamn do I love Bedman
Fuck your calculations Bedman someone call Faust and a veterinarian, we got a puppy to revive!
It just a fuxxin dog
-some russian mob-
I can't hold back my tears whenever I come across this part.
I need to play this game, damn.
So, did you? If so, how'd you feel about it?
@@Schneeregen_ Couldn't. Budget is tight sadly. I got to play DBFZ though.
@@xarthurmasterz That's a shame, but I get it, it's been a rough year.
@@Schneeregen_ Nah actually my region of the world wasn't hit that hard thankfully. I've just been the guy paying for the family's needs these days.
Ram is too pure for this world
Why i friggin love bedman
what the dog doin!?!?!?!?
Ben 10 is one helluva therapist
Sometimes you need to kill someone's dog so they can truly understand their own emotions
Yosuke as Bedman is the best shit ever
Sounds like Albedo from Ben 10 Alien Force.
0:09 Hhmmmm. Very familiar voice was Yuri Lowenthal that I just heard?
Are these scenes in SIGN? are there alot of these, and for all the characters? if theyre are i might just buy the game for the cutscenes lol
1. Yes, this is from Sign.
2. This is from the story mode, while there are cinematic scenes for just about everyone's intro in Arcade mode the main cinematic mode is Story.
And yeah lol I honestly think Guilty Gear has some of the best cutscenes/animation out of any recent fighting game. Buy Revelator instead though, unless you like listening to the english voices because there are none in Revelator. I personally haven't even touched story mode in Revelator for that one reason.
@@Keyguin I know how late I am to this but the lack of english in rev really did annoy me
I mean I like the JP voices but with what happened to japan in guilty gear lore everyone speaking japanese just feels a bit weird
This is how Ram became John Wick
Probably my favourite scene in story mode
Ram is one of my favorite characters (it fluctuates regularly) she has the nativity, experience, and emotional health of an underdeveloped child. I hope they just let her grow and not just full anime with it and attract (more) weirdos. (Seriously give us cosmetics that give her better clothing options I play with mods but still would be nice)
God I love redemption arcs 😭
*Cute puppy sounds*
this gets me every time :((
ramlethal is my waifu
I'm about to spontaneously combust because of ram crying, ain't that a way too feel sad
They went way too far with Ram’s robotic voice
Wish they kept it from sounding like Siri but I get what they went for
No, it’s not that different in JP, she has the same monotone voice that lots of “emotionless” characters have in anime. In Strive she gets a bit more emotion in her voice too.
That precise day ill turn 182 years old, happy birthday 🌚
Did something mess up in recording or does Bedman really sound like that intentionally
Eyo bedman is lowkey pretty effin funny
ATF Agent vs Ramlethal, 2187
Why does he sound like he's about to go "Its Hero Time!"
Because it's the same VA for Ben Tennyson
0:33 I don't think I there was anything being used wrong In the first place..
Un crack el bedman
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT SO SAD??? This is coming from a series with as much backstory as kingdom hearts and some of the most batshit characters in a fighting game.
Sad Ram hours
What the frick is the song i've been trying to find it for YEARS now
It's called "Twilight". Just search up "Guilty Gear Twilight" and you should find it. Sorry for the late response 😭
Does anyone know the name of the song when Ram críes?
If you're still looking, i'm pretty sure it's 'Twilight'
Wolfwood2057 thank you!
Those really do be *cute dog noises*
Well...cant say she didn't keep the dog
He killed a dog to prove himself right!!!1!!1! such a great character hes so smart
Bedman is salty bc he got down voted on reddit
Switch gameplay here
Wtf is Ben 10 talking about?
*burp* t-there are infinite dogs in infinite realities Ra-*burph*aaam
Lignum Kluter Shut up Rick! You ruin the moment go find your seshuan sauce!
Oh boy, i remember it being bad, but this is worse then i recall. Maybe because rams voice and the dub itself are that much better in strive.
I still never thought Erin suited Ram at all, glad they changed it.
Damn Siri why you gotta make us 😥
As no one catched on to the fact that bad men probably just killed that dog.
bedman did kill the dog thats what like everyone in the comments is talking about
@@ink3487 yes I know that but they seem to be looking over the fact that you just cold-bloodedly killed that small dog don't even making a fuss about it
@@dariusgalvan680 to be fair, it's not nearly the worst thing he's done. especially given he felt remorse about it
I don’t know. CAN SHE?