ThePedalGuy VLOG How Should You Use Preamp Pedals featuring the Mooer 005 Brown Sound Preamp Pedal
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2019
- In this video, we circle back to the Mooer 005 Preamp pedal to demo the difference between plugging the pedal into the front of your amp, and plugging it into the FX Return in the back of your amp.
There's a distinct difference in both examples. Plugging into the front essentially double stacks two preamps and the results can be less than ideal. Plugging a preamp pedal into the back of the amp via the FX Return bypasses the on board preamp/EQ and leaves the driving to your preamp pedal instead. The audible difference is noticeable for sure. Have a look and listen.
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Hi,I was wondering what’s the exact pre amp diagram of what goes into what please?.as in the pedal in and out and fx send and return?.Thanks :-)
So if you’re using delay effects through your effects loop, which goes first the preamp, and then the effects and into the effects loop or vice a versa?
Great video, I just got one today and I'm wondering if there's any way I could combine it with my hotone ampero 2, this one being my main distortion tone and using the Ampero as an IR loader and for modulations. If so, could you please tell me what the signal chain would look like? Thanks in advance.
Sure, you could place the preamp pedal before the Ampero or you could use the FX Send/Return on the Ampero and place that signal block before the Cab block.
Great effort. Definitely improve your audio quality.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you
Can I output sound directly to my headphones?
Picked 2 different models of this line up at gc yesterday. I’m not really that knowledgable on how pedals and amps really work but running it off my pedalboard through the power amp in on my boss katana mk2 50 is what you’d advise doing if I just wanna use it for practice at home?
Good choice!
Running this into the power amp input of the Katana is the proper way to use it.
quick question sir, can I place this kind of preamp directly to mixer without using any DI or cabsim? sample setup: drives>preamp>modulations>reverb>mixer>speakers
Probably not. You should use a cab sim of some kind.
Hello pedal guy, can I ask you a question? I have a high end tube mic preamp and I would like to use it to improve the sound of a Dan Electro Honeytone mini practice amp. I have my reasons for doing this and it's an interesting project. I've replaced the crappy 3" 2 watt speakers with a NOS 3/12" 5 watt drive in movie theater speaker cone. Will the 26 decibels of the tube mic preamp damage the tiny 5 watt 8ohm speaker? Can I use a tube mic preamp to push a tiny micro mini guitar amp, if I replaced the speaker with a 3/12" 5 watt speaker? Will I blow the speaker? Or is it a simple matter of not turning the preamp up too much, THANKS
That’s kind of a tough question to answer. My spidey sense tells me that you should simply watch your levels on the preamp as it sounds like a a connection. That will eat that speaker for lunch.
try reddit or some forums
Thanks
You’re welcome
Thanks, could you go; drives into this preamp into modulation and delays then into the return?
Sure. from the pedal preamp to other pedals then to the FX return of the amp? Yes.
@@ThePedalGuy Great, thanks for coming back to me!
@@ThePedalGuy nice! That's the same question for me being answered...
Does this also work with having a cab sim then direct into a mixer or PA system? Hopefully you'll answer this too. Thanks in advance! 😊
if I'm going to include this on my hybrid pedalboard setup, where should I place it? should I plug on the effects loop?
It depends. The fx loop is fine but you can also go straight into the front of the amp
Can I run a preamp pedal in the effects loop. Like send and return. Thinking vox mystic edge in the loop for clean chime but I still want to run normal pedals through the front of my lonestar.
I’m sure that’s possible but you’ll need to experiment with the EQ to make it sound good.
If i’m doing everything exactly like this video, should i plug my other pedal (overdrive, boost, etc) before the preamp pedal or to the input of the amp ?
I think the best way would be to plug it before the preamp pedal for effects like boost and overdrive. Delay and verb come afterwards
Hi, I dont want to use an amplifier, I want to plug it in directly to a mixer or audio interface? What pedal do I need to use? DI or Preamp or cab sim. Pedal?
You could go straight from a preamp pedal to a power amp simulator/IR loader like the NuX Solid Studio.
Would this be good sound?
Overdrive > amp input > preamp (send) > reverb > delay > return
Or should I direct them all to return
I would just use the return. A preamp into a preamp is a tough sound to tame.
Is it 'dangerous' to plug a pre-amp pedal into the input jack on the front of an amp? Can it damage the amp? Great video thanks for sharing 👍
Not really. It just takes a lot of practice and tinkering as it’s rubbing one preamp into another which is why I suggest using the FX return on the back of the amp if you have that available
@@ThePedalGuy Thanks for the input!!
I think most people that are looking at preamp pedals want to eliminate the need for an amp altogether. I've looked and looked and I can't find a video that shows the difference between a preamp pedal (like the Joyo AC Tone too), a cab simulator, and how each can be used. For example, can I run a preamp pedal direct into a PA? Can I run a preamp pedal into cab sim then into PA? can I use just a cab sim into PA? If you make a video that clarifies the use of those I'd be very happy personally :D (good content, keep up the good work!)
Hi Madj. Thanks for the kind words and questions. To answer your questions, if a preamp pedal has a cab simulator, then you can go straight to the PA system. The only downside is that adding additional FX in the chain is not possible unless the preamp has those capabilities, such as the Hotone Legacy Floor Amps. Ideally, you would want to run a preamp pedal into a cab sim (AKA IR Loader) and you're in luck as we have done this a few times in the past few months. Here are a few links for you
czcams.com/video/xTA30_dn-gA/video.html (last week's vid that uses the 005 with the NuX Mini Studio).
czcams.com/video/pPfk2-yO3SQ/video.html (NuX Mini Studio)
czcams.com/video/sBAdyNZwSHc/video.html (NuX Solid Studio)
czcams.com/video/MsvKnepA9Gg/video.html (Hotone Britwind)
czcams.com/video/QA3ibTFtwrU/video.html (Hotone Binary Cab)
czcams.com/video/Kg02S1xP2n8/video.html (Hotone Binary Amp)
Hope that helps.
ThePedalGuy wonderful! Thanks!
Majd Shufani I want to use it because I have a 120 watt tube half stack that has weak distortion and I would rather it sound like a 5150
Stephen Dre this will do the trick for sure.
How would the chain work if I have other pedals? Would the guitar connect to the preamp and not the tuner at the front of the chain? Would everything go into the FX loop? Please help
You can connect like this: fuzz, compressor, overdrive, distortion, Preamp pedal, then you can connect your tuner, modulations, delays, reverb, and all that signal chain can go to the fx loop return.
So you can use you can skip the amp and only use youre preamp pedal with the power section of your main amp.
The audio is super low on this. I had to turn it up all the way on my Bluetooth headphones and I still struggled to hear. Informative video, just very hard to hear.
Thanks for the feedback
Hi
I send my reverb and delay pedals through the effects loop on my Fender Bassbreaker.
Would it be ok to add a preamp into the loop before these pedals?
Thanks.
Dave Keel hi. Well that would probably sound a bit strange unless you were plugging directly from your guitar to the preamp pedal. Then it would be fine.
If not and you choose to plug into the fender, you’ll already preamp the signal, send it through the amp EQ and then hit the preamp pedal in the fx loop.
Make sense?
@@ThePedalGuy yep i know what you mean, so you are saying don't plug into the front end of amp but plug into preamp pedal and then into my other effects like delay etc...and then straight into the return of effects loop,so your bypassing the fender preamp.
Exactly
What if you wanted to send it tbrough the front of an old marshall head that has no return loop?in other words, what If i wanted to have it in a pedal chain going into the front of amp seeing as I use my marshall with the preamp set low for clean so that its a platform for pedals???
How would it be used with more pedals, delay, reverb ..? together to the fx loop?
You would put the other fx after the 005 preamp.
I have a blues driver and octavizer BEFORE the 005 and a reverb/delay/phaser/flanger/chorus, noise gate, and looper AFTER the 005...and the looper drives a Baby Bomb 30...so my whole rig is on a pedal board.
@@ThePedalGuy is that in a complete loop or just into the fx return? everything I've seen is just the return that gets used? thanks
@@Dustiehippo just the return as I recall
Here's a dumb question: Would a tuner work proper if put before the preamp going into the FX Loop?
Yes that should work fine.
@@ThePedalGuy thank you very much.
I'm using a mini pedal board. Usual pedals into pre amp,to amp Sim Radar. To Recorder. Use headphone out from Radar,for silent practice. No need to go to amplifier
Thanks for your feedback
What if you wanted to send it tbrough the front of an old marshall head that has no return loop?in other words, what If i wanted to have it in a pedal chain going into the front of amp seeing as I use my marshall with the preamp set low for clean so that its a platform for pedals???
Hi Steve. Thanks for your question. I believe I answered that in this video but at 2:10 it gives you a pretty demo of what that would sound like. The short version is yes you can plug it into the front of your Marshall, just realize that it's a preamp/EQ Pedal going into a Preamp/EQ Amp, meaning that you will need to make some adjustments to make sure when you double stack the preamps, they don't nasty up the tone. Takes a little practice but it will work.
The Pedal Guy how would you plug a preamp into a fender twin reverb?
Javon Walker thanks for your question. You would plug it in either in the front input of the amp or the effect return on the back of the amp.
The Pedal Guy if I plug it in the front wat do u think should be the pedal order ? Where would the preamp fall ?
@@javonwalker9367 Just keep in mind if you plug it into the front, it will be a preamp going into a preamp and will need some tweaking. Watch the video for audio examples. As far as other pedals go, overdrive/distortion would probably go before the preamp. Everything comes after.
I'm waiting on an eBay delivery. I bought a $140 electric guitar, it comes with a few things. One being a really small amp. It could be mistaken as a watch, I'm talking small. A baby's finger is bigger. This is NOT a big amp. What im wondering is can I hook the pre amp pedal to that little amp? Any help would be appreciated thanks!
You can try, most of the time the speaker it's more important.
@@domvalhalla7771 thank you for the reply. I'll have to wait a month or 2 to find out. Gotta save up some money for the pedal. Thanks again for the help.
Hi, what if I don't have a fx return on my amp. should I still consider buying this one? thank you.
Possibly will work well. It does require some additional tweaking to your amps’ preamp and eq
@@ThePedalGuy oh ok thank you. this really helps. Do you consider buying mooer 005 over the behringer ultra metal in terms of tightness and better crunch output?
@@rohandhampir3598 Never tried the ultra metal so I couldn't give you an objective answer there
@@ThePedalGuy I see, Thanks again. Great demo BTW.
Could you use this pedal with acoustic amps to play electric to sound cleaner ?
Probably not
Thanks, for reply,. Looking for an amp that lets you play electric guitar and do vocals at same time that sounds decent and has bluetooth, to ad backing tracks or drump loops. Know of any any off hand?@@ThePedalGuy
where should preamp pedal to place in chain?
Please watch the video. That question is answered there.
Bro, is it working if ever the preamp directly to any cabinet speaker? The preamp itself can give a 100watts? For example the preamp 012. Thanks bro, hope you can answer my question.
No. It requires a power amp to do this. If you're using a powered cab, like a FRFR then it should work that way.
what if u dont have effects loop input?
Just plug it into the front of the amp.
@@ThePedalGuy it affects in smth? or it would work just as some distortion pedal?
How can this affect the eq of the amp itself?
Plug it into the front of the amp
Can you use this straight into an frfr?
It ‘should’ work but I’m not sure of the results.
Yes you can, im running a 005 trought an alto ts312 and it sounds sooo nice. Sorry for bad english
Turn on the cab sim and its ready to rock
Is there a latency on this pedal?
Nope
Use pre amp pedal before your amp Sim pedal. For direct recorded
Ok
If you want an alternate guitar sound,use EQ pedal.
Thanks