5 Times Big Brother Players Made Underrated Dumb Moves
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I believe another really underrated dumb move is Jessica not using the veto on Ramses during her HOH in BB19. There were very clear red flags that were pointing towards Josh staying like Raven being standoffish, so Jessica could have easily used the veto to put up someone like Christmas to guarantee that Josh went home.
I think it’s literally top 3 worse moves in BB history.
She was so concerned with trying to get good with the house again but I guess it worked out in the end since they have 4 kids together and won the amazing race. 😂
Don’t know if I would call it underrated.
Totally agree. Ramsey was one of the only people not working with Paul at that point and she left him there as a sitting duck on the block. How do you expect Ramsey to survive that.
This isn’t underrated at all, it’s one of the more talked about bad moves in the fandom. People don’t put it on the same tier as Cody voting out Victoria and all but people still bash it
Jeff attacking Shelly was wild . I can’t believe he spoke to her like that !
Yeah. As a non-feed watcher I was always very "meh" on Jeff, until that episode, then I really hated that jerk.
There was a huge amount of entitlement in the BB13 returning player dynamics, because of the assumption all season long that a vet should win (to the point where they even had to essentially rig the F6 to make it more likely to happen). Given how beloved Jeff and Jordan were among many fans, and the show itself, the idea was likely that the new players should just be happy to spend time with them and hope for post-season opportunities (this seemed to be Adam Poch's goal...it sure as hell wasn't playing Big Brother).
Even in the jury house Jeff was giving Shelly hell about that.
4:45 Zach Rance also survived the backdoor attempt in Week 2 of BB16, unless the distinction is that Zach wasn't the target until after the veto was played.
After the first 3, I was expecting BB14 Danielle using the Veto on Dan and evicting Janelle and having this whole video about The curse of being named Danielle on Big Brother
thats definitely not underrated
@@hannah2064xo never said it was, I just said i expected it because of the "haha funnies" of having the whole video about Danielles
I remember yelling stupid b.... at the TV after that
So impressed to see that we only have 5 dumb moves throughout the show☺️ but I guess they can’t all be masterminds like my girl Raven🤩
Would love to see a “Dumbest moves by the producers” but then again that video might be wayyyyy to long 😭
It is for that reason I’ve always viewed that Pandora’s Box in season as needless than writing it off as game-breaking (especially since the one newbie that Rachel didn’t nominate in the next round won the veto)
BB20 Hacker Comp has got to be on that list. They introduced the comp to try to get something going on that wasn't Level 6, which it did, then asked Hailee what she was good at in the DR, only for her to win HOH (finally), only for the Hacker Comp to be a 2-week twist and have it completely backfire on production and have Rockstar get evicted on Hailee's HOH.
@@NicolasWithNoH Honestly, I’ve always perceived the Hacker twist that season to be twist intended to not be used for its intended purpose but more used to crank the drama and antics from the split house as high as production could away with but without having someone expelled on accident. Leave it to Rockstar to screw that up. Kaycee might have put her up, but there is no excusing Rockstar losing OTEV like that
Seasons 16-22 have so many dumb moves that it's hard to mention all.
@@miggans21012 no shit. Even our channel host knows there will be at least a Canadian version on this topic.
Good video Peridiam! Whenever I think of absolutely awful moves I think of these.
1. Jacob spreading hear-say rumors about Parker during the first nights of Big Brother 9. Adam and Shiela were guaranteed to be evicted, if he would’ve just kept his mouth shut he wouldn’t have been evicted by Parker and Jen who held the sole power to evict… (I know this isn’t a move persay but it was on an HOH reign with no votes and the HOH held the power to evict)
2. Daniel using the veto to get his best friend Nicole nominated with Taylor so Taylor would get evicted in Big Brother 24. Terrible move, but sound in idea - if the house was on his and Nicole’s side. The lack of social awareness and even putting your closest ally in that scenario is way too risky and unnecessary to even execute that week.
3. Jessica not using the veto on Ramses to ensure that Josh had the votes to go home in BB19. If Ramses would’ve come down, and let’s say one of Josh’s allies went up next to him, he would’ve left the game which would have drastically shifted the game.
4. The Donato’s attempted blindside of Eric in BB8. Eric had the numbers, and the “pawns” were going home over him either way. Danielle putting up both Jenn and Kail, and turning against the power alliance with her dad was an awful move. Didn’t help the smear campaign solidified the two being ousted in the house.
5. Nathan using the veto on Allison to save her in BB4. Nathan was sitting pretty with the house who all wanted Allison out and basically flipped the house, which made Dana put up his closest ally. Dumb move.
6. Lawon voluntarily asking to be evicted in BB13 to get a power. Idk why that even happened but I can see the appeal, still super dumb. Saved Kalia from getting blood on her hands I guess lol.
7. Marcellas not using the Golden Power of veto to save himself at the final 5 of Big Brother 3. Hilariously iconic and real dumb.
8. Danielle Murfree using the veto on Dan in the final four of BB14. She would’ve been guaranteed final 2 regardless in that scenario if she just let Shane vote out Ian… 😱
The Lawon eviction was so incredibly stupid and painful. I think Shelley was in his ear, or Kalia's ear, quite a bit, but the failing is still theirs. I am surprised BB has never asked him back because that was an iconically stupid move. Maybe he wasn't interested in returning.
You know, say what you will about Tyler’s move, at least there was a genuine and understandable thought process behind it and he did it partially because he didn’t want to betray either of his closest allies. Not to mention, Tyler was still really close to winning in the end so I don’t think the move was that dumb compared to the other examples mentioned.
I have a lot of issues with how Tyler played BB22, but BB20 Tyler I still have a lot of respect for how he played even with how likely he was to win without his own missteps!
#4 is crazy given the impact it would have on the seaskn
Tyler probably was worried to lose one of them's jury votes. Because for him he was the bigger treat that only needs to get to the end without making enemies that can contaminate the jury. Evicting kaycee at 4 in his perspective could bring problems in jury.
What happened was that tyler hadnt those jury votes all locked so he lost, but the move wasnt bad idea at all
It actually was, because one thing Tyler failed to take into consideration is that Kaycee was better liked by the non L6 side of the house than both he and Angela were, so maybe evicting the person most likely to get more jury votes than he was was probably a smarter idea than letting the person with worse odds to beat him get evicted
@@NYChica23 Another factor is Angela was thinking of bringing JC to Final 2 as a goat (he wasn't but Angela is a dumb bitch). Tyler might have learnt that somehow and been worried about it. He knew Kaycee would never bring JC over him, and Angela and Kaycee would never bring each other over him, and JC would never bring either of the girls over him either.
3:23 This. I know America's Player got the Donato's out of the mess, but America's Player is what put them in this mess to begin with. Without America's Player, there is no hinky votes, which means the Donato's Never try to backdoor Eric which turns most of the house against them. It's still an uphill battle, but it's not impossible for the Donato's to win. Very very unlikely, but not impossible.
Another big reason for the whole mess was Eric struggling with the concept of America's Player vs his own game. He wanted Nick out, which the public vote didn't want. He tried to thread the needle of having to work for the Donatos even as he worked for his own interests. The TV edits were so heavily in Dick's favor that some viewers became even more upset about Eric's double dealing. The whole America's Player twist was a terrible idea for an entire season as by the second half of the game it made the entire process predictable - you knew there was nothing stopping Dick winning, and unless you loved him as much as the show did, there was nothing left of interest.
What about in season 20 when Rockstar told tyler the answer in the OTEV competition? If she didnt give him the answer he would of been wrong and it would be Rockstar and Haleigh and Haleigh could throw the veto to Rockstar so she could take herself off the block.
Tbf, Nicole from bb21 survived her week 3 back door
The reason Jason was dumb to evict Ami over Lisa, was mainly since Lisa was never going to take him to F2 over Danielle. Ami probably just takes Jason even if she wins final HOH, and adding to that Jason EASILY beats both Ami and Danielle in a F2, it means he is pretty much ensured to win by keeping Ami when Ami probably takes him anyway, and of course Danielle definitely does.
Thank you, we need to see more underrated Big Brother dumb moves, it’s so MANY!
This could be a 5 part video.
- BB11: Kevin evicts Michelle over Jordan at the Final 4, even after Michelle promises him Final 2. She really hated Natalie that season so she had a good reason.
- BB9: Adam tells Sharon he’ll keep her even though the veto meeting didn’t happen yet at the Final 4. Ryan won the veto and wanted Sharon gone, but Sharon told Ryan what Adam said and he almost got evicted.
- BB13: Adam (different one lol) doesn’t use the veto at the Final 5 on Porsche or Kaila. Kaila or Porsche would’ve took him to the Final 2 since he didn’t do anything all season.
BB8: Zach doesn’t use the veto at the Final 5 to cause Daniele to be nominated and voted out.
BB12: Matt doesn’t nominate anyone in the brigade at the Final 8 when he had the Diamond POV. He saw the signs of them evicting him if he didn’t have it either. He had numbers with Britney & Ragan to evict potentially Hayden that week changing the course of the season and possibly alliance history.
one more…
- BB16: Julia picks Austin in the veto competition causing the downfall of the Austwins. Julia gets evicted next, then Austin blindsided barefoot, and Liz had 0 chance to beat anyone in the Final 2 (Steve, Vanessa, or Johnny Mac).
I think bowie jane getting cameron out will eventually join this list
Man, your videos are so good... I'm barely 1 minute in, and I've already thought of and erased like 6 separate comments!
Thank you for being you!
Big Brother Canada 9 Jed use the veto on Beth instead of himself! Also Jordan and Zach in Big Brother Canada 3!
While Jeff going off on Shelly was dumb. I think Shelly would of voted him out regardless. Cause she had seen how powerful he was. Having Jordan and Adam. Btw Adam was the worse HG of all time.
I can look past the fact she would vote him out regardless cuz I agree but Adam clear as day isn't the worst hg of all time. It's Jacob Hield without a doubt realistically. you need to do your research
Well I wasn’t talking about just gameplay. Yes Jacob is the worse game player. I’m talking overall. And Adam might not actually be the worse overall. But he’s definitely up there. He just never played the game. When a player just plays for somebody else it’s annoying. BB19 has a lot of terrible houseguest though so maybe I shouldn’t be too harsh on Adam but nah I like Jacob over all of them cause at least he was entertainingly bad and thought for himself. Unlike a Raven, Adam, Matt.
What about bb23 when kyland kept Xavier smh pretty much threw his game away
I’d add Ivette NOT throwing part 3 of the final HoH to Janelle. If Janelle wins, she evicts Maggie and Ivette wins in a 5-2 vote (maybe 4-3 depending on James)
By the jury segments james would’ve voted Janelle. And April stated that if it was Janelle vs Ivette she would voted Janelle
From the same season I would add Janelle prioritizing avenging Kaysar and evicting Jennifer instead of Maggie. Without Maggie, that whole alliance falls apart since they hated each other, and evicting Jennifer after that would have been easy with the group separating. Janelle would have Rachel and Howie, Ivette and Beau would have gone to James, and April and Jennifer would have been a lone pair and easy to get out.
But would Ivette win against Janelle? If she was too obvious with the throw, she loses all of the Friendship votes, and she wasn't a very subtle person. Also Maggie was manipulating her too much for her to think for herself honestly
Jag and Matt not targeting Cory and American during "invisible HOH" power.
Just calling it now, dumbest move ever.
You should do another kingmaker video or how someone’s mistake was someone’s lucky charm. I just saw a video where because Nicole from BB2 was afraid that Monica would have won, she ultimately gave the win to Dr.Wil. Dr.Wil benefited from Nicole’s fear of Monica to allow him to win the game.
From what i understood the concern was that Amy was a bigger competition threat over Lisa at the time, which is up for debate in itself but i never saw that as a bad decision but hearing this gives perspective
Danielle and Jason explained this to amy and to the public. Part of their strategy was bringing in a 3rd person that they would give 2nd loyalty too. And there idea was if Danielle or Jason got evicted earlier the 2nd person would be the primary first loyalty. They also wanted there 3rd person in case the 3rd person were to win be someone they felt deserved to win that they cared about. They did not want amy in final 2 cause she had already been evicted back in week 3. So its understandable
@@JEM471025Basically Lisa is the option both of them were okay losing to. She was their honorary third. It’s not a great move but like Cody taking Derrick to the end it was a move with real-world implications.
Cliff and Nicole are some of the worst players ever they literally rode mickey then got shocked when he didn't stick to his word
Not underrated in the slightest
But danielle murphy taking dan off the block because Dan Gheesling is Dan Gheesling and inadvertently sends her own boyfriend home 45 seconds later
season 18 when James throws the wall comp to Nicole. This gave her the leverage to make a deal with Paul and Victor for final 4 instead of james and Natalie
BB25 - getting rid of Red over Jag. The obvious reason given will be that Cameron won HOH right after he left and wanted revenge as his close friendship with Red had been trashed due to some lies from the Jared/Cirie/Izzy alliance (I think Jared was the main one involved here, which is why Cirie evicted Red at the last minute). The more long-term reason is that Jag was the bridge between Cory/America and Matt, which proved invaluable in getting rid of Izzy and Jared. It was especially crucial with Izzy, given how unsure Cory was and how close Matt feels to Cirie (Jag is the only other person in the house he is close with). This also led to the fight between Cory and Jared that further solidified them against Jared.
BB12 - Didn't Hayden do something petty with Rachel and Brendan which ensured they would not vote for him in the final 2?
BB6 - It doesn't seem to be as remembered now, but Ivette left a needlessly hostile goodbye message to Rachel, even knowing that Rachel controlled not one, but potentially two jury votes. Ivette and Howie were fairly close in the house, and if not for Rachel he might have voted for her.
That BB25 one is very easy to say with the benefit of hindsight, if ANYBODY other than Cam wins the next HOH he likely gets backdoored that week
@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf Cam had already won a variety of comps by that point, so they knew it was a possibility. They also knew Jag was a problem for their alliance, as they'd nearly voted him out twice. You can't predict the future in BB, but in this case I think they just had played reckless enough weeks in a row that they weren't able to step back and see the consequences.
Speaking of Shredder (I’m not calling him Jeff, because he gives all Jeffs a bad name), he made a very dumb move on his first season, in saving Kevin and nominating Russell. Over what? A made up story from Kevin. Props to Kevin for that manipulation, but I find it hilarious how easily Shredder fell for that. Is he just gullible? or is he just unable to think ahead even at final 6?
Also, he got pissed at Russell for outbursting at Jordan, yet 2 years later, he outbursts at Shelly the same way, and for the same reason. What a hypocrite.
I loved watching Jeff get evicted after going of on Shelly.
Other moves could include the twins getting rid of Will in 5, Janelle getting rid of Marcellus in 7, Derek X getting rid of Christian in 23, and almost anything Da’Vonne did in 22 (?).
Or in 17, because her not shutting up about the twin twist directly led to her eviction
I think Janelle's only real mistake around that HOH week was not targeting Erika or maybe James over Marcellus. She wanted to go for Danielle but the others made sure Danielle won POV. She also needed to keep Chilltown in the house as they were clearing a path for her. Marcellus was past done with Janelle by that point and was close to the people in the house who were against her.
I think the Holly one is incorrect. Michie was really in trouble if Nicole won that veto. Holly had to make that deal before the hoh cause she definitely should have gone home over Tommy. Also Tyler’s mistake in bb20 was evicting Sam over Jc @ final 5 and he wouldn’t have been in a pickle there @ final 4.
Holly one isn't incorrect. yes she has to accept the deal in order to be safe but she could've still won that HOH and not listened to Jackson so he'd have a 50% chance of going home instead. Also, Tyler's dumb move was betraying Brett instead of Kaycee. Kaycee has more win equity and is clear as day a bigger comp threat. I saw no reason for Brett to leave and I'm still angry about his eviction to this day. it is bad on a personal and strategic way. yes Kaycee was closer to Tyler but I'm not taking chances with her being a big threat
Good move for holly to win but bad for jackson.
Holly chose her showmance's game over a spot in the final 3 & luckily it paid off but still it just really depends on who holly thought she could beat in the end.
@@thecamishere4344 Tyler had several dumb moves in the game...telling Bayleigh he didn't need her jury vote to win, not taking out Kaycee at final 6 when she had the best chance to win out of the L6 alliance, not evicting JC over Sam, who had no real win equity and would never flip on Tyler, throwing POV to Kaycee instead of him finally making the move to cut her and go to the end with the less liked Angela, where he likely wins a jury vote
@@guyfierimtwi Holly couldn't beat anyone in a Final 2.
People were shocked on BB 19 when Ramses got evicted Jessica who was HoH wanted Josh to go home and I think she put Ramses up as a pond.
I need more of this.
Bb 11: Jeff nominating russel at final 6
Bb12: Matt nominating Kathy at final 8, with the diamond veto
Bb14: Dan not nominating Shane at final 6
Bb17: James, at final 8, choosing to not, so much as, mention the deal he and Vanessa had previously made
Bb18: Paulie not saving zakiah at final 10
Bb18: James evicting Cory, in final 4
Bb19: Jessica not nominating Paul and josh, when she won HOH
Bb19: Alex not nominating josh and Christmas at final 6
Bb20: kaitlyn voting to evict Sam, in week 1
Bb20: kaitlyn backdooring swaggy C, in week 2
Bb23: Derek X choosing to not compete in the roulette wheel
Bb23: azah targeting Hannah at final 5
Bb24: Daniel not saving his “ride or die” with the pov
Bb24: monte bringing Taylor to final 2
I feel like Holly throwing F4 HOH helped her with her jury management. Cliff came to the round table wanting to advocate for Holly because she kept her word and Jackson didn't. Nicole F voted for Holly to win because she honored the deal.
No it didn't. It made her look like Jackson's lapdog even more. Holly did not have a single winning Final 2 out of the fInal 6. Her only even possible one is Nicole, and she probably even loses to her, unless she evicts Jackson. So obviously her jury management sucked. She lost to Jackson who was hated, and beats nobody left in a Final 2 after Jess was booted at 7.
Here are some of my picks
BB12: Rachel refusing Hayden’s offer
Rachel had Hayden and Kristen up, Hayden proposes backdooring someone and making a 5 person alliance between them, Brendon, and Brittany. Rachel turns this offer down because she doesn’t trust them. I don’t think Hayden or Kristen would’ve stayed loyal to this alliance, but Rachel also didn’t have any options, and so should at least try to get a foothold. Hayden and Kristen betraying her wouldn’t have put her in any worse of a position than she was already in.
BB14: Dan’s comments about Ian.
Dan and Ian are in the final 2, he has an uphill battle as he is seen as the devil for all his betrayals, while Ian is the likable nerd who grew socially and won a ton of comps.
For the most part, Dan did the best he could to win over the jury, he apologizes for his lies, compliments the jurors’ skill in the game, shills for Jen’s band, and tells Joe “I thought you were a threat, Ian didn’t”
However, he also claims that Ian spent the season “on Brittany’s leash” and downplayed one of his comp wins as “grabbing a ball from a machine” I think this was highly counterproductive, as it just fed into the “scummy villain vs innocent nerd” dynamic the jury already saw into this F2. I’m not condemning Dan for what he said, and I’m aware there’s probably nothing he could say to turn the jury. I just think this was a bad read on what would convince them.
BB17: Becky lying to Vanessa
Becky was HoH and targeting Vanessa, but claimed to target Shelly. Vanessa tells Becky “I’ll understand if you put me up as a pawn” Becky insists she won’t, and then nominates Vanessa, telling her she’s the target.
If Becky just went along with the narrative that Vanessa was the pawn, she may have sat on the block quietly and been evicted. Instead, Becky let Vanessa know she’d need to campaign to stay safe, which she did.
BB18: Victor gunning for HoH
Paulie was he house pariah, and the HoH came down to Natalie and Victor. Natalie wanted Victor to throw it, but he refused. Victor won HoH, evicted Paulie, and was evicted next week when Natalie won HoH.
His best move was to throw the challenge. He’d still get Paulie out, but also build trust with Natalie and reserve the option to compete in the next HoH.
A riskier, but still valid move, would be to gun for HoH but protect Paulie, as he was a meat shield and still a potential number.
What Victor did was the worst of both options, he lost both a shield and his ability to compete next week, making himself completely vulnerable.
BB21: Nicole keeping Jackson.
Nicole was HoH, Cliff won Veto, making Jackson completely vulnerable. They evicted Christie, Jackson steamrolled the remaining comps, and went to the end with Holly.
I think this moment is underrated because it was overshadowed by next week, where they again pass an opportunity to turn on Jackson.
They get some leeway for the fact that this was a double eviction, and evicting Jackson was risky, as they’d then rely on their own ability to win challenges, but keeping Jackson was also a risk. He was by far the biggest physical threat, there weren’t many rounds left before F2, and they knew he would take Holly to the end over either of them. I also think it’s an underrated bad move by Christie and Tommy, who kind of accept Nicole’s decision, when they could’ve fought much harder.
1:05 - 1:10 oh you FLIRT!
2:22 the gamer in me tells me daniele pushed for amy to stay based on the chance that Jason wins final hoh and takes amy for a easy win. I think she knew she had a better argument to stay over lisa…unfortunately that’s not the scenario we saw.
I really wanted Nicole and Michie to go to the end lol
Hot take but Cameron in BB25 not taking the shot to evict Cory in the final week before Jury started and allowing “Jag to influence” the decision to keep noms the same was the dumbest move he could’ve made for his game; I’m not saying he would’ve made any farther than the rate he’s currently *going*, but granted that would’ve at least built up some kind of momentum going forward for him in a way that evicting Mecole really didn’t, because for some reason it was “too early to take the shot” and Cory, but taking out a Mecole when all she was doing was rusting up the bedroom doorknobs with the Clorox spray was not that threatening at that point and his target in Felicia didn’t even go.
If Jag does anything right its being extremely dominant with getting people to do what he demands he just talks and talks until you agree with him.
I hate that cam is probably going home tonight. He should have made a move and put bigger threats up on his hoh, now Bowie (who has done nothing until now) is going to be the one to take him out because Matt and jag are playing everyone. Kudos to them, I really don't want cirie to win, but she's close with Matt...
@@erinmineo830Cirie won't win this. Everyone knows she would beat most people at the final 2, and unless she wins out, she's going to be evicted mid to late jury
I don't think Cameron had any shot to stay unless he had won POV in his final week (which he never even got to play - always a risk). Getting rid of Cory would have made him feel better, but it wouldn't have made any difference to his game as Cory is a house scapegoat rather than a real threat (he's not that great in competitions or strategically). The one thing he might have done to survive, in my opinion, was nominate Jag/Matt. If one of them had gone, there was less of a chance they could have persuaded Bowie to backdoor him.
Diane turning on Karen & Nakomis. I get why, they’re both major threats to win and Nakomis gives Drew a run for his money with comp ability but…
Drew was universally-respected and more loyal to Cowboy since the beginning of the game. And he would do damage in a jury vote against anyone, maybe even Diane.
I don’t think it’s an all-time bad move and she genuinely cared for Drew but had plenty of options and decided to be loyal to someone who was a huge threat AND wasn’t primarily loyal to her.
If I was Diane I would see about letting other people take out pretty boy Drew and closet furry Nakomis and go to the Final 3 with Cowboy and Karen.
The biggest mistake is none of the two alliances getting Marvin on their side. He’d be an endgame threat as well but he would have taken a move against a big player.
I dont think that the Daniele move was bad. Miscalculated but it didnt affect her game at all.
It kind of did though by making Dick & Daniele complete pariahs and immediate targets the following week. Had it not been for America's player, one of them would have for sure been evicted (but had it not been for America's player casting rogue votes in the first place, this whole situation would have never occurred)
I would understand putting Dani's BB8 move on here, if you're only considering the singular goal of getting Eric out. But the Donatos were going for a scenario where they get Eric out _and_ not completely burn bridges with the rest of the LNC. If they did, they were basically screwed as the outsiders (Jen and Kail) obviously were against them.
So putting up Eric initially next to a Jameka or Amber would have resulted in a high chance of him going home, yes. But it would also turn off the Jameka/Amber/Dustin contingent which would have been very problematic. The way they did it, they kept those people safe and didn't alienate them by putting them up, and Amber/Dustin were pretty close to pulling the trigger on Eric as it was. So Dani's move was a high risk/high reward move, which I don't hate when you're the outsider HOH (as she basically was, with the proviso being that the LNC was giving the Donatos a grace period). They could've just done the straightforward play and targeted Jen or Kail, but if they were going to make a move I don't think this was a terrible way to try, it just didn't work out because they couldn't persuade Dustin/Amber when it came down to it.
(Note that I don't really know what was happening on the feeds at the time, which might change some of this assessment.)
Yea I agree with this. Plus it didnt tank her, or her fathers, game in any way whatsoever.
Jessica not putting alex up and letting ramsey out over josh in bb19. Hope got those names right, its been 6 years!
I think the dumb move at F10 of BB8 was actually Dustin and Amber going with Eric and Jessica instead of Dick and Daniele. Eric and Jessica ended up backstabbing both Dustin and Amber pretty quickly. Dick and Daniele probably would have as well, but probably not for a few more rounds.
Wish Tyler chose Brett as his ride or die
I'm still waiting for the day BB fans stop treating Tyler as some sort of mastermind genius 5-D player.
I'm not sure THAT is the stereotype fans see, but rather one that was inflated by the show runners and media content creators, themselves.
I just liked the guy!
He was very human... and despite dashing good looks, seemed approachable, and relatable in ways most houseguests don't.
His interactions with JC, the faux-beef with Bailey actually just being an extension of his desire to succeed over Swaggy (people LOVE killer instinct in competitive environments), the destruction of the opposite side of the house by manipulating the faux-friendships the show itself fosters!! All of it!!!
Tyler was just built for Big Brother in ways most humans aren't!
I haven't seen the video, btw. I just commented after seeing the thumbnail and immediately realised this is a Peridiam video I can watch in a month or so oe when I feel like it (and I always watch Peridiam videos within the hour they're posted) so that's that.
@@conanmcclanahan1069 I mean just right now you're giving him too much credit for (mostly) irrelevant things and I ain't about to get on that bandwagon.
And if you read my comment and read yours... you're kind of proving what I said, and that what I said is gonna take a long ass time. 😂😂😂
Like I said, I'm still waiting for the day BB fans stop treating Tyler as some sort of mastermind genius 5-D player.
I feel like Tyler is masterful social and okay strategic player as shown by his two performances and he lacks the ability to make moves against any of his close Allies.
Also I want to say Angela and Tyler taking out Brett instead of kaycee was such a dumb move for Tyler. Brett loses to everyone in final two and would take Tyler to final 2 over Angela imo but instead they take kaycee to the finals. (Just realized peridam eluded to this in the video)
I mean he is an amazing player tho
Say if T'Kor lose the season you could add her 😅
I think Ivette’s decision to not throw the final HOH to Janelle is pretty dumb. If Janelle wins she evicts Maggie, taking Ivette to the finals who probably wins given the friendships pack to only give their votes to members of the alliance. I believe Janelle even told Ivette to give it to her, but Maggie still had her under the cult like-mindset of the friendship, which probably cost her the win.
Agreed, but even then she isn't a lock to win. Both April and James said post show when asked if Janelle wins final HOH and takes Ivette they both vote Janelle, and they are the two swing votes since Howie and Rachel are locks for Janelle, and Maggie, Beau, Jennifer locks for Ivette (if she doesn't evict Maggie in which case she loses 7-0 or 6-1). Now 1 of them might still wind up voting Ivette and she wins, but if we believe both she loses 4-3 to Janelle even then. Yes that was her best shot and what she should have done though.
i honestly think getting rid of cameron is a dumb move for Jatt & Cormerica this week. Cameron is very likely not to make it to the end, and even still, I dont see him winning since the jury really doesnt care for him and wouldnt give him his vote. I think the smartest move wouldve been to get rid of one of the couples.
What show are you watching? Cameron has won like half the competitions, and there is no way he isn't the biggest threat. He's the best option to go home and the mental gymnastics people pull because they like the dude is crazy. I find him insufferable and cant wait til hes gone. Jared and him almost ruined the season for me.
Yes true, like Roger said they just seethingly hate Cam so much (this is feeds on TV it doesn't seem as bad as it is) BUT I think Cirie should have tried to save him or Bowie could have kept him and then tried for a Final 3 with him and Blue. Cam needs to be a weapon for people, Matt and Jag are an insane comp beast pair that Cirie will probably just glom onto for an easy final 3 carry. That carry should have been Bowies. What is funny is if Matt and Jag each think they have the deepest resume' but Cirie says she won through strategy and had others win challenges for her and she ends up winning Dr. Will style.
@@rogerdodger1984I like cam because he's the underdog, everyone hates him and calls him a liar...all because Jared was the one lying and spreading shit. Cam has had his back against the wall the entire game, he's probably going home tonight because he is a comp beast. I'm not excited for the following weeks, if Matt jag Felicia or cirie wins hoh they will be the final four and most likely it ends up being Matt jag and cirie final 3
@@rogerdodger1984Who cares about winning comps....I can't stand the dude either, and that's precisely why it's a ridiculous move to take him out over Cirie. Reducing Cam's threat level to "Oh, he can win the most comps, so that means he's going to be hard to beat at the end" completely excludes the other more complex dynamics in the game, and a big one there is that he's pretty much burned all his social capital with the rest of the house, and not being well liked translates to not getting many jury votes, if you get where I'm going with this. Conversely, anyone who's familiar with Cirie's multiple reality show appearances would instantly know that she's the total opposite of Cam in the sense that she can't win anything, but she also knows how to make it very far relying solely on her ability to manipulate and work her way into the power alliance socially, which would scare me more in terms of jury threat status than Cam's comp ability would
I think getting rid of Blue first might have made more sense, given her ties to Cirie and her not being bad in competitions.
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What irks me is the way Holly acts like she 100% would've beat Nicole lol like you have no idea what would've happened. I almost wish she would've not went through with it and then lost anyway lmao
Nicole and Holly both lose to everyone in the Final 6 but each other. Both lose for sure to Tommy, to Jackson, to Cliff, and probably even to Christie. Against each other? If Jackson is in the Final 3 with them whichever evicts Jackson automatically wins. Which is probably more likely Nicole, since I am not sure Holly would be willing to evict Jackson, although Holly is much more likely to win final HOH to have the chance to evict Jackson than Nicole is.
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Are you sure about only one video for this? I’m pretty sure you or this channel community can come up with more underrated bad move for more content for this topic in both the US or Canada.
Speaking of number #4, that veto speech Porsche gave torched too much of her win equity. While Porsche could be smart as a floater, she was also a pretty shameless one to fault. Her veto speech highlighted her floating her too much, especially when she finally gets power
@@marklisowski6549 No kidding...she really highlighted there that she was playing Dani/Kalia's game as opposed to her own
@@NYChica23 People have tried to explain that Porsche’s HoH reign was her own prior to Pandora’s Box, but it still seems to me that it was more of an extended HOH of Kalia.
Where her gameplay was her own, post double eviction, was rekindling her alliance with Rachel. That said, it clearly benefited Rachel more than Porsche.
I feel like Danielle putting Tyler up on the block and then proceeding to backdoor Ian I'm BB22 should be in a 2.0
She took a shot too early and then backed out of it, it's no shock that she was out during the triple when Tyler won HoH
Was that the whole business with Tyler telling people he wanted to go home, then changing his mind?
@kengeorgejones6855 I think that was the week before. This would be the first week of jury when Ian went home, right after Tyler changed his mind. IIRC Dani wanted to backdoor Tyler and put up David and Dayvonne (I think?), but David had the power so she last minute replaced him with Tyler.
@@finniganflynn7603 Thanks.
Dani initially put up Kevin and David, David then used the disruptor power-removing him from the block, Dani then put up Tyler as the replacement
Then the Veto comp happened, Da’ won and pulled Kevin off the block leaving Ian as the last player outside the committee alliance
Do you know what underrated means ? Bc I feel like you don’t.
Umm what about Marseilles not using the veto
Call me stupid, but I still don't understand the implication you've made in the beginning of this video.
For whatever reason Shelly annoyed me more then almost any player ever, and Ive seen every season.
I wouodnt call tylers move dumb, just unexpected
I would, considering that he already screwed the pooch once when backstabbing Brett over the more well liked Kaycee, when Brett had already lost quite a few jury votes, then follows that up with evicting Sam over JC, when Sam was more likely to be loyal to him and less of a strategic player, and finally the nail in the coffin is throwing the POV to Kaycee instead of finally taking his shot against the person with the most win equity in the game and going to the end with the more disliked Angela
@NYChica23 yeah but the other moves you mentioned aren't also that dumb
Tyler kept voting out the goats and taking the big threats to the end
Terrible gameplay
@@crowkid5553 Taking the most well liked person in your alliance to the end in a game where the people you voted out choose a winner is absolutely and unapologetically a dumb move, no two ways about it. Ultimately, logic should lead you to believe that in a game where the objective is to get people to want to vote for you, taking someone more liked than you are, therefore more likely to have friends on the jury, is pretty much the worst move you can make at that stage. So if Tyler had let common sense take over, he would've realized that Brett had made lots of enemies out of the non L6 side, especially with Rockstar, while Kaycee had none, so Brett probably would've been the smarter choice to take further, since he was less likely to get those votes than Tyler was
@NYChica23 it also comes down to who's the most loyal, as to taking the biggest threats comment, that's not terrible gameplay as he had a final 2 with everyone