Rover 75: Man vs EGR and PCV Part 1
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- čas přidán 12. 10. 2020
- I can't stop working on this car, so I remove the Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve for a clean, and swap the PCV (Positive Crankcase Valve) breather. Which is when the problems start...
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end of it like the end of a 60s Adam West 2 parter Barman
'Embuggerance' is henceforth added to my list of useful garage words.
My late Dad used to say 'Buggeration!' when exasperated. it still tickles me when I think of it today!
When you mentioned the parts washer, I was expecting you to run it under the hose lol.
I was expecting a washing up bowl for a parts washer not a proper one,Shame it wasn't connected but then again it wouldn't of been Hub nut had it of worked!
Same here
@Indosarnia he hasn't had the time to do it. I'm not knocking anyone's abilities here as I'm an amateur tinkerer myself.
I was thinking the dishwasher.
Don't apologise for your coverage of Rover 75, I'm loving it.
These are the cars, along with Vectras (I may be in the minority, thinking that was a good car) and many others, that are still readily available for not much money, offer great useable daily transport and stick 2 fingers up at the scrappage system.
You're inspiring us cos we can't go out and find a useable Fox, Invacar, GSA, 2CV for 500 quid but there's plenty of very good 20 year old cars around still.
Bangernomics is king 👍
Well, I liked the Vectra as well Neil. So you're not the only one 👍
I have 2 cars
Mk1 Focus SVT 2002. 🚗
Mk2 Rover 75 2004. 🚙
Average age...17 years, sorted.
@@casualagent7250 my fleet :
1996 Fiat Barchetta
2002 Corsa(sons)
2003 Merc E270 CDi(wifes)
2009 Mazda 2(daughters)
Average age 17½ years
@@neilwalsh4058
Dang, beat me by six months.
Barchetta.... nice
I like the Vectra too, as a general rule I’ve always ignored everything Top Gear had to say, and they tried to give them a bad name at the time.
This episode is a prime example of why I subscribe. I lived on the Copperbelt in Zambia for 3 years nursing an old MK1 Cortina GT through various trials and tribulations with an incredibly rudimentary toolbox. Necessity was very much the mother of invention - string and sealing wax solutions were no exaggeration. This sort of real-life video diary brings back memories, some fond but by no means all of them! Looking forward to the zip-tie lash up.
Excellent video and excellent timing. Went on my lunch break at 12 and it had been uploaded to CZcams 40 seconds before I logged on. Hot tea, cheese sandwich and a hubnut video. The perfect lunch break. Well done ian
Who wants to see immaculate workshops and smart Alecs making everything look easy ? Hamfisted bodgery is why we keep coming back ! ❤️
I watch HubNut like a dog watching someone putting shelves up, "I've no idea what you're doing but you're awesome".
Far too many organised shelves in workshop for my liking.
@@BRI535D 😂
Thank you for buying the Rover 75, will have to buy another Hub Nut sticker ‘coz my previous car, (City Rover Select) had one & since been scrapped, ☹️ due to lack of spare parts availability.
My replacement car is now a 2004 Rover 75, 🙂(Ski Blue) so new Hub Nut Sticker is now warranted 👍
I cleaned mine once....then ended up removing it all together on a diesel gurus advice when I changed both auxiliary fuel pumps.
Car ran much better, turbo picked up quicker and mpg improved also.
Your ABS light is probably a sensor cable...£10 on eBay. PCV filter change every 30k....is not in any service schedule but will damage engine if ignored.
Lovely... reliable cars once known issues sorted. As I said before...would have kept mine if it was a automatic as my left knee was awaiting surgery!!!!
A nice MG ZT -T diesel auto...could tempt me away from my XF!!!!!!
"Mr. Muscle" Oven cleaner works well on carbon cleaning.
And WD-40. Told that lighter fluid is good too, but probably wouldn't try that.
@@R33Racer yeah, a mechanic once told me he prefers WD40 because it's made to be used on metal.
@@R33Racer Lol. Light touch paper and retreat!
Ammonia dissolves carbon, and Mr. Muscle oven cleaner has that!
Brake cleaner ? Too
You can buy brass return T pieces, mercedes I believe, that fit. Cost more, but don't snap. Put them on my old Freelander, with the Venturi pcv filter (BMW) never needs replacing.
Yes fitted one on to my freelander BMW call it a oil separator . No more oily tube in there . As for the egr valve I removed that and replaced it with a bypass valve from ebay even came with false vacuum tube fitted to block that .
went to change my pcv last month only to find the previous owner had already changed it for the new oil separator type. Never thought of checking before I bought a kit :D
Am now on edge of seat.......
.... haven't been this excited since Saturday morning Re-runs of The Flashing Blade!!!!!
Can't wait for episode 2......
Great video and, as always, funny yet informative.
I like the longer videos, I feel more apart of what you're doing and able to understand better on how to do things. On another note, you always make me want to make a cuppa when you have one. Love your videos :)
I loved the 75 connoisseur that I had, 2.0 v6 same colour as yours,big comfy leather seats
Entertaining as always but also really instructive for anyone wanting to tackle EGR check & cleaning themselves.
What a nice looking car, the seats look incredibly comfortable. Well worth the time and effort being put into it.
Really enjoying this Rover 75 content. I drove a 1.8 from Geneva to Cambridge in one hit. I was knackered by the end - it was slow!
I’ve learnt a new word ‘embuggerance’ thanks to this video. Educational, in so many ways! I see much use of this in future... Thanks HubNut
It originated with Terry Pratchett. If you like HubNut, you'd probably enjoy Mr Pratchett's books.
Stuff happens Ian - every time I do a job something else always seems to crop up - don't despair !!!
16:51 A rare glimpse of Hubnut becoming Ronnie Pickering 😂
well he did consider buying a Xsara Picasso once!
@@NathanCelica in the right colour as well 😂
Who? Never ‘eard of yer
@@BillOdyssey RONNIE PICKERING!!!!
No matter what Ian does in a video you can be guaranteed its never dull. Tis the season for a HubNut beanie, I brought mine out today and started to use it again to keep my baldy nut warm.
Ian, I can't hold in now anymore but what a lovely car that Rover 75. I can see you like it too, cuz see you only busy to make it better.
I just love a HubNut tinkering video! Can’t wait for the next instalment!!!
I helped my friend do his EGR on his V70 D5 and it was vile 😳 the joys of diesels..Great job and great video Ian
My Lexus gave up when I was in Galway on business . I stripped out the EGR in a lay by and took a bottle of ether which I had in the car (business purposes) and some pipe cleaners and painstakingly cleaned out the incredible gungy detritus in the valve . What a mess !!!!! However it worked and back I drove to Glasgow without problem . Never touched it again for the remaining 80k I had the car . EGR on all diesels of that vintage were and are a problem . Great video . Keep up your brilliant work .
Egr cools the charge down which reduces Nox because nox is generated at high temperature and pressure.
Indeed because there's less oxygen and less fuel required
I see hubnut new video released on my phone at work, gives me something to look forward to watching on the tv when I get home 😄
Your good grace in the midsts of failure and disaster is something you should be commended for.
I've been using redX on a regular basis in my vw t5 and it seems to help I was told I needed a new turbo 18 months ago and started putting it in keep up the good videos
Every since you've got this car Ive seen loads of these 75's chugging about
Same, I walk by one nearly every day and I never noticed it before
TheShinyShow How do you know it was there if you had never noticed it before 😂
@@mysterymonkey Ha good point, it has been there every day since Hubnut got one so I assume the guy has lived there for a while and not just bought it.
same as me!
Amazing really considering the youngest is 15 years old.
Saw a beautiful 75 estate today whilst out walking. I wanted to make the owner an offer but he was away before I could get to him.
You just know Badgertronix is watching this and quietly crying, Ian, don't you? :)
Back in your cage dumbledore
"Embuggerance" needs to be on a T-shirt.
This needed an Alan Partridge "On That Bombshell" ending with you breaking the car a little bit. Hopefully the magnificent 75 will be bodged back to life. Amazing how much grime accumulated in there, and made for another interesting vid. Much thanks, and looking forward to the goodies in store at the museum.
I thought I'd come to the wrong channel when you started the parts-washer clip, but was soon relieved that it is just a parts washer shaped basin because it isn't plumbed in!
HubNut!
After working at a Rover dealer for a number of years, we saw a large number of 75's as well as other models, I can't say that we had many egr valve problems, though pcv valve filters clogged up quite often, you can get the filter screen separately, or if you buy the complete unit, the Landrover version was generally more expensive. One reason for lack of power was the mass air flow sensor getting coated with salt from road rain water spray, the sensor is available with or without the housing, a while ago when they went on back order, a factory fix was to wash the sensor with de-mineralised water, then dry it with low pressure air, though the sensor is fairly fragile.
Great channel
Great video, you were saying that some folk may not like Rovers.. Back in my younger day ,when me and my friends wasted the entire 90s and early naughties buying ever more expensive cars, Rovers were just invisible to us.. didn't get a second glance, but these days I find them more interesting, I'm sure they are gaining a following now and prices will start to rise. Best wishes Hubnut.
Nice to see you taking more attention to your camera work. Improving all the time. well done
I have learnt something watching this.. Thank you Ian.. It was filthy inside!
Great video as always. Definitely getting colder.
Will be wrapping up myself at the weekend as I continue with my p6. 👍👍
This was a great video with a superb commentary. I think you are a good mechanic, not ham-fisted. It's dead easy to break a spigot of brittle plastic by accident. Nobody can claim that you don't get stuck into complex areas. This engine really interests me because I have a Land-Rover Freelander 1 with the same and was told the EGR and manifold needed cleaning out. Brave work on a "modern"!
Somebody bought me gloves and the first thing I did was snap off the washer bottle as I was undoing a nearby bolt. Bare hands for me I'm afraid.
Great tinkering video as always, look forward to part 2
Thank you for welcoming us to your "gaff" all the best for the future, lovely vid.
"you might learn something along the way".... you're far better than me and have better facilities to be working on motorcars. To that end I must stop fannying about with my car. JUST A MINUTE 23:25 that's not the inside of a Rover 75.
I've been through a 2.7 5 pot diesel engine that couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. Changing EGR valve and vacuum modulators made a massive difference. The EGR valve was sticking open and really blunting the boost cycle and the vacuum modulators were tired and just didn't respond very quickly, if at all.
It is good to see that Rover provided a cup holder on this model ... ... ... ... under the bonnet.
Great, honest, brilliant vid Ian.... keep at it!
I owned a MG-ZR for a while. Was a fun little car, well equipped for what it was too
"Embuggerence" the new word of the day! Hope you get all sorted soon Ian,good luck.
Good work, Ian. When my wife and I had Freelanders I did this job regularly and would clean everything on the low pressure side as much as is possible. I eventually replaced the PCV filter (which was always sodden) with a modified maintenance free kit costing about £20 on eBay, it made a world of difference and kept the air box free of oil. Also, look out for rubber hoses softening due to oil contamination which can start leaking leaking to poor turbo response.
Your video reminds me why I do the maintenance on my Acadiane and leave my Citroën C5 for the garage to look after. A-series engines are simple enough for me to understand.
Very good Ian, cleaning all that crud up,messy but worth it, when i had a motorbike[Yamaha rd 250],i used to take of the head clean the bores,top of pistons except for the edges, and clean right through both exhausts and the baffles , very messy but you will notice the difference , good luck on your trip, and hope that cold gets better..
Great content, thanks again. I was doing these very same jobs on my 2001 320d Touring with the 136ps M47 engine back in 2008. Worth changing the air filter and fuel filter also.
Great Video Iain love the 75's !
Bless you Ian, good luck and have fun at Warwick
Good to see you tinkering again Ian, make interesting videos 👍
Cor this takes me back. Did many a strip report on these lumps back in the mid to late 90's!
Had the dubious pleasure of changing the egr on my Alfa 147 jtd (rip). The VGT saw it finally taken to the big car park in the sky. Never thought I'd miss carburettors.
I must admit since Ian has owned and done a few videos I’ve taken a interest in Rover 75’s, to the point I’m thinking of buying one😂
Bought my second one last weekend. I'm sure you already know this but the mk1 is definitely the better model. I've just bought a 51 plate and the guy I bought it from has an 06 mgzt. You can get your thumb in some of the panel gaps.
@@sambrooks7862 nice😁👍
just done the egr delete & updated the crankcase breather on my td4 freelander, drives far better now!
You can't beat superglue and bicarbonate of soda for fixing all the snapped plastic bits. It's a miracle fix!! I've got a few parts with broken tabs and things suitably repaired on my Fiat 500.
MARVELLOUS - air goes through the air filter/cleaner THEN they mix that clean air with exhaust and oil vapour !
That's why I had mine blanked off then the software adjusted.
@@matthewbourne659 Does it not work just by plugging the vacuum pipe ?
@@millomweb no it's a modern one with an electronic solenoid. I had bad hesitation at low rpm and the fiat Alfa specialist I took it too said it was the main cause of it on multijet engines.
@@matthewbourne659 Interesting
Or for more of a natural cleaner you can use White vinegar with a lemon squeezed into it, then use a tooth brush, works perfect for my motorbike rebuilds and its cutting out the use of more toxins (which we are drowning in these days) 👍🏻
Most commercial degreasers are citrus based now anyway
Love the Rover please keep the vids coming
More 75 content! Brilliant 😊
What an epic blockbuster, I need part 2, I NEED PART 2. 🤣 delicious HubNut shenanigans.
Pt 2 eagerly awaited
The Motor Museum is absolutely amazing and the Jag collection next door is nothing short of stunning, as are all the BL prototypes upstairs
I did the EGR on my 08 Passat, it was clogged solid with crud. The anti shudder valve had to come off first and that was exactly the same. 2 cans of EGR cleaner and 3hrs later they were pristine again. Made a big difference in driving and black smoke under throttle though.
My Laguna EGR was hellish. I had to clean it every 6 months.
I also had the blocked silencer on my Espace which zapped the power. The wadding inside it was coming loose and clogging the baffles.
I also had a sticky waste gate on the turbo of another car. Sometimes it would boost other times the engine management light would come on.
Good luck!
The egr is for particles that aren't measured in the MOT in the UK it's for the EU test. There isn't anything on the test for the egr to be checked. Blocked mine about 3 years ago and the emissions test as MOT time hasn't been an issue. My MOT tester actually suggested I blanked it off.
I got mine blanked off and the software adjusted so the eml wouldn't come on on my fiat Doblo 1.9 mjultijet. Seems to run so much better and smoother.
What happened to the free acceleration smoke opacity test? Aka "is my timing belt going to break" test?
@@jamescaley9942 It doesn't do anything for smoke, only NOx which is invisible.
The MOT test requires an inspection to see if the emissions control equipment has been tampered with, but that's nigh on impossible on many cars.
Ever more professional at HubNut. A parts washer.....shear luxury. But sorry you ran into problems, it was going so well. (Furious driving is having a similar rotten time of it at the mo as well.) Hope all comes right with the 75.
Alway's good to have a few 20th C. cars around when working on a 21st C. car. My experience has been that working on modern cars (yes I do consider the 75 a modern car as it was very modern at its time) is you tear it apart, then work out all the parts you need to put it back then wait for everything to arrive (who knows how long) and reassemble.
"I hate working on modern cars". I wonder if that is because manufacturers prefer to get you to pay them £65 an hour to work on the car for you.
Include the VAT and in the London area you can probably double that.
£65 an hour, where do you go ?. My local garages are around £110 / £130 an hr.
@@dj_paultuk7052 have to agree. Was trying to be on average. The norm is more often over £90.
I pay £40/hour but I'm a long way from London. I believe the dealers are about £100.
@@cornishhh they charge as much as lawyers these days.
i believe the Torx spanner your refering to are actually sockets, they are called E-Sockets. in a pinch you can use a standard socket on them as long as they are not too tight, as you risk damaging the splines.
Mr hubnut and a new parts washer have I got the right channel 👍
Love Hubnut!!😊😊😊😊
I newer vehicles and big machinery like tractors and trucks have EGR, PCV valves, add blue systems and now DPF filters fitted to them just to complicate things even more. Petrol cars are also having DPF filters being fitted now.
Glue a coaster to the base of your mug. Makes it - almost - klutz proof!
I had a very similar jacket, kept well beyond it's being worn in polite company life, for just such cold weather car fettling! I have rarely had to work on a car in brilliant sunshine!
MUCH prefer the vids of you working on cars than the road tests.
After all your work on her, it’s a pity you sold her on without really reaping the benefit. I know you could argue that you had the satisfaction of saving her, and that you probably made a vast profit, and that can’t be argued with 😃👍
Yes Ian, we always learn something, often along the line of how not to do something and never ignore the 5 P rule. Oh and read the manual first. What is it with some men not reading the instructions?
a blocking plate for the PCV was the best $10 I spent on my Golf GTI. significant fuel savings, around 10% better economy.
Not to worry Ian I did exactly the same thing when I did my pcp filter,(but I,v got a great scrap yard just around the corner)
Very interesting, Ian. Now I really know why I hate new cars. On my old carbureted V8s, 2 bolts, one vacuum line and EGR off. Cheaper to buy new that fuss with an old one. PCV system was a $10 fix for new screen, valve, and filter. To do both was a 10 minute job. I have to do the PCV on the 90 Volvo. From what I read, the flame trap and oil separator are a right pig to get to. Oh, well.
Great hubnuttery. Still in shorts and T short here durign the day. A jumper needed at night though
I saw a Rover 75 in a junkyard over the weekend here in Auckland and have to admit they're a nice looking car - I thought they looked a little naff in the UK, but surrounded by largely Japanese and Aussie cars, it is distinctly British.
The Rover engineers improved the BMW M47 engine and it was redesignated M47R for the Rovers. Cleaning out the intake manifold is a worthwhile job but it’s a very mucky task. Those plastic T pieces do get brittle and you have to be careful, I replaced mine with brass ones. Sometimes worth replacing the small return feed pipes too as they harden over time.
I cleaned the EGR and intake on my E39 as I was blanking the infamous swirl flaps at the time, both equally had carbon buildup similar to your rover. Breather filter was also well overdue, they do seem to get overlooked on these engines.
Top form video, hub nut premiere content. Thanks for sharing 👍
If you think the vanes in the turbo are sticky then it's worth disconnecting the control solenoid/vacuum actuator etc. and moving the vane arm by hand. Sometimes a good wiggling can sort it, albeit usually temporarily.
Brilliant vlog since when did hubnut have a parts washer were expecting a shower of water & degreaser to explode everywhere 😂😂
Surely your haynes manual warned you about that fuel connection. Hub nuttttttttttttt
Another great video
An exhaust gas recirculation valve is what springs a coolant leak on a diesel Vauxhall Insignia.
I used a egr blanking plate on both vectras, causing more trouble than its worth. still had a new egr valve, but the turbo, even new was getting stressed and losing power. now no problem.
Lovely Jubbly, I think the Rover has the most paint protection on out of your car's you've owned, the opening shot with the bubbles of water on the paint, nice to see.
I knew it would finish less than ideally as you got drawn in deeper and deeper. Roll on Pt. 2
Good effort! Looks like much more of a pain than my rover 400 was to do anything with...plastic every where XD
That is the "quickest" LONG video ive seen...:) Cant wait for part two to be honest :) I definetly feel your "pain" regarding stuff like this.Modern engines i work on everyday...and with all the "plasticy goodness" on these engines...they are definetly not suited for getting "older"....so..But i am sure you will work it out in part 2 ;) Im crossing my fingers ,mister HubNut :) Greetings from Norway ,Stefan
My w124 loves its home brew blanking plate...