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How Colonialism Set the Stage for Maui's Destruction by Fire
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2023
- The death toll from the Maui wildfires is now about 100 and is expected to continue to climb in what is now the deadliest U.S. wildfire in a century and the worst natural disaster in Hawaii's history. As recovery efforts continue, many residents are asking why Hawaii's early warning system, with about 80 alarms on the island of Maui alone, did not get activated to alert residents about the approaching flames. We speak with Kaleikoa Kaeo, professor of Hawaiian studies at the University of Hawaii Maui College, who gives a history of colonialism in Maui and how the transformation of the island for mass tourism, such as changes to agriculture and water management practices, helped to turn the area into a tinderbox. "Our people who have lived there since time immemorial are suffering because of the consequences that have been imposed really from outside foreign forces," says Kaeo.
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For decades, Maui residents have been fighting to preserve this ancient seat of the kingdom of Hawaii. Just last month, the Hawaiian government passed a law that the Lahaina historical area could not be redistricted for any more development of hotels and such businesses, unless a natural disaster occurred. What are the odds..?
About 100%
🤔 😮 That part! ✅✅✅💯
The game is rigged
read what I wrote above. looks like this whole thing was deliberately orchestrated. by none other by the deep state satanic sickos. They need to pay for what they have done. These beautiful people will never have their home again.There are people coming on that are saying that fema are not helping or either is the red cross. That's because there all corrupt. The people that are helping is friends and family of these precious people The Native Hawaiians need to fight this and not stop until they get justice.
So arson is natural??
It was no accident, corporations have been asking the residents to vacate their homes for years. Lahaina can be made more profitable for these corporations. so they did what they always do.
Speaking the truth brother! Don't worry tho, I'm sure Biden will bail out the rich people 😢
Agree
Eminent domain: now the govt can get land cheap w/o having to buy the houses.
Thats right! And the citizens of Lahina are already being approached by investment companies that want to buy their properties... Parasites have no shame. Not thinking about how they can help. Instead they're thinking about makin money off the devastation. Don't sell to them the dirt on your shoe. Do no business with these Parasites! They drive up housing costs leaving many locals homeless all over North America and Abroad.. They should be on blast for what they're doing and any involvement they have with these fires!
A woman that was there said many many many Hawaiian children were at home watching younger siblings with parents working when these attacks happened 💔 She was devastated by what she saw and broken.. She passed by so many people that didn't make it..
They are lying about the death toll.. The government was totally in on it imo.. A similar situation in the Yukon is happening right now(raging fires). I'll share link instead of trying to explain in comments..
I'm so so so sorry to the Beautiful People of Lahina that they're going through this devastation. My prayers are with the people of Lahina as they begin to process what has happened! And I pray for swift justice for the People! I don't understand why USA owns the Island when it belongs to the people of Hawaii! This government has done these things before. Aside from barging into countries and stealing everything they wanted, they stole the lives of countless souls. Starting wars based on pure and utter lies on lies and they know it's all lies! The royal family the Vatican and other sinister families and groups have orchestrated every war every invasion, endless devastation against humanity, & too many disasters to count.. Now they're turning on the USA Canada and beyond to gain control over the world! See while everyone else is busy being productive and living their lives, these parasites plot schemes lie and manipulate to get more more more of what ain't theirs.. They're never satisfied and so entitled! We've been funding their out of control lifestyles for way too long. We could __ the 1%, so 99% of humanity could live in peace! They want to depopulate us but it's them that need to be depopulate because they are the source of 99% of the problems humanity faces today.. They're unfit to live amongst the rest of society and need to be addressed.. If everyone got up tomorrow morning &stopped helping them impose their agendas on the world, it would all end by dinner time! Then we round them up and imprison them until their sentencing!! Just sick of seeing people suffer because of a few soulless psychopaths!! 💜🙏🏻🕊
Just like in East Palestine, OH.
This gov is evil they did this and I hope all the truths come out and these evil people need to be brought down.
it's the local police chief and out of stater investors.
Over throw the sars like they did in russian . Get oprah ,jeff bezos,mark zuckerburg... All you need is 50+ ppl to put them down and there security!!!! Its have distractions for the police or get them too .
Serious Crimes against humanity...
Oh My God this is heartbreaking!!! Do not sell your land stay strong, stay firm, keep your land!
This is a time where someone like Bill Gates can show he's a true philanthropist. I damn the elites who even in their old age lie and squirm to make more money. I pray the locals can stay and rebuild 🙏and big business suffers a massive loss.
@@remingtonrugarwill you stop it!!! And stop using the USA flag to repeat what another idiot repeated
Over throw the sars like they did in russian . Get oprah ,jeff bezos,mark zuckerburg... All you need is 50+ ppl to put them down and there security!!!! Its have distractions for the police or get them too .
At this point I would sell and move... there's a lot of land all over the world..these celebrities and politicians can keep that portion of land they burnt with dew
but then they win, they get exactly what they wanted, and then what is to stop them from doing it again to another community?
Wild fires are usually in the wild. The forest. This was a town, with no forest surrounding it. This is not a wild fire. This is suspicious.
Really interesting. I also can't recall a single event with entire cities/towns burning in the modern times West.
They have heat weapons. They were used on the protestors in Australia during Covid.
They had big blisters and sores on their bodies and faces. They could easily start fires.
But even a match would do it.
On the video, it appears to show a single block along the coastline burned to the ground. EXACTLY 1 block along the ocean! I would have thought that Mexico would go before Hawaii.
nonsense, lots of fake videos to stir your feelings, ignore them
This is a land grab.
What I find puzzling is. They kept the power lines on but cut off the water.
That chomo Podesta pushing "Climate Change" already. It clearly isn't but of course the liberals never let a good tragedy go to waste. Absolute loons didn't release the water to save their city. Mumbles isn't even going to console the residents and speak with the governor or mayors. These are Americans in America. Why isn't ever politician flying there like it is Ukraine? There is no money involved for Pedo Peter and the cabal so he/they couldn't care less. Mfers. This entire tragedy reeks of BS. Get our brothers and sisters help. Mercy ships should be in the harbor. C130 should be full of food, diapers, medicine and been there the next day. Doctors and nurses should be flown in, triage stations set up. What are they waiting for?
Just puzzling??
They voted for it !
That is definitely weird, and something to think about. Where I'm from, if there's so much as a strong wind they shut down the power.. just in case.
AND, didn't activate the sirens. Gates and Winfrey are looking into purchasing this land. And of course, Gates is all about depopulation.
The failure of not putting on the warning Sirens needs to be investigated. Very poor judgment at the very least .
My prayers will continue for all of those affected my this terrible tragedy.
🙏
My heart and love goes out to all Maui residents, for those who passed my deepest condolences 💔🙏🙏
A genocide for land..
When she said that she thanked the lord for giving her the family she had was so heart breaking, even in the moment of death she still found time to thank the lord❤🙏😢
Amen! Powerful!
Amen, because another fire victim cursed so much every word was bleeped and he was in the heat of it. In a crisis, true character is revealed..
Crazy since the fire was part of "the lords" plan.
@@vids595 no that would be Mother Nature, you have the two confused
@@Princess144k I don't see anything wrong with cursing with every word in that situation. What is so great about thanking the god you believe in for killing you?
That woman who saved the baby and her husband who saved the old lady they are absolute HEROS. GOD BLESS YOU MAUI STRONG BLESSING TO LAHINA ONE LOVE 🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵🩵
People were picking up strangers and stray animals It’s what we do
This is the story of your enslavement folks 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
God bless them!🙏🏻
Why was the water TURNED OFF?
They turned down competent individuals to run emergency services to hire incompetent people because of their brown skin color. They died from diversity hiring !!!
So much for your brand of Democracy! Most prolific land grab in American history ❤
Don't vote for Democrats
🗣 That last part!
Extremely suspicious! No alarms, dry fire hydrants ,blockades place trapping residents trying to evacuate, forcing the people to l Literally run for their lives . Corruption runs deep in Maui. Prayers for the survivors. Hopefully the reported thousands missing persons including many children are located. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
It is NOT a natural disaster.
This is so sad.
ABSOLUTELY!!! "ENERGY WEAPON FIRES"!!!
we cant say that for sure. Sometimes we watch enough television where we want things to be more suspicious or foul play than it really is. Sometimes it is, but sometimes things just happen. S*** happens in life. Nothing is guaranteed. With high winds, a multitude of things could of started the fire.
Agreed! DEWS!
See Zachary K. Hubbard
Because it was cause by humans introducing invasive grass, altering the climate and allowing poor building code,and poor response?
This is no wildfire somebody caused this someone did this. This is so messed up beyond comprehension 🙏🏽🙌🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽
Its amazing it didn't happen sooner. I was there 3 years ago and there were dry grasses all over the place.
It’s just not giving a shit about watering the grasses, cause water is holy or something.
@@vids595 oh wow 😯
This was intentional, and whoever did this is a monster. That you would stoop so low, just to take peoples land. Why should native Hawaiians , rebuild there, only for it, to possibly happen again. From the same people who started this disaster. They didn't care about humans lives. And you say this area was , part of America, now I see why. Because America doesn't care about it's citizens. The leaders and politicians,are only concerned about the rich like themselves. They are very unpredictable.
Before I heard any mention about colonialism, I thought about Australia and the scorched earth there. I remembered an indigenous person commenting that indigenous people knew how to control the spread of fires to prevent catastrophic fires, but that colonial encroachment had changed the dynamics regarding harmony with nature. One of the first comments mentioned by reporters is that the Maui fire is the "worst disaster in Hawaii's history." Presented another way, even when the island was thick with foliage and forest before "urban" development, there were no fires that devastated the island. The indigenous Hawaiians had the same understanding of nature that the indigenous Australians possessed, but colonialism altered the dynamics because it's predicated upon a lack of respect for the people and the land.
Also, people have brought over Guinea grass to feed cattle on the island which os invasive as well as prone to wild fires when there is a drought.
That's another aspect to consider- invasive species imposed on the existing ecosystem.@@bonniehowell9206
It’s amazing how the wind picks up every time there’s a fire.
Really strange!🤔
Fire moves air, it's not that strange.
@@MungeParty it moves yes very good but crates it to? 🤔
We don’t have to die to experience hell. Hell is already here.
Blessings to the citizens of Maui and their families. Condolences for those who lost their lives. I visited Lahaina in 2019 and was convinced that I’d found paradise on Earth. Now this paradise has been turned to ash. People were stranded in the midst of apocalyptic fire with no help. I can’t believe my own eyes. This suffering is unimaginable.
No, to experience hell, you literally need to die. This is earthly misery. Hell will be far far worse.
FOR SOME, IT'S NEAR BY AND FOR SOME IT'S FAR AWAY.
NOT EVERY ONE FEELS THE FIRE.
BUT FOR SOME THEY DIE IN THERE. AND I THINK ITWAS THE WIND. AND NO ONE WANTED TO GO AND SEE IF IT WAS A REAL FIRE OR IF SOMEONE STARTED THE FIRE. AND NO ONE WANTED TO GO AND CHECK IF THE FIRE WAS PUT OUT AND SHOVEL OOF DIRT WAS PUT ON TOP OF IT.
LIKE IF NOBODY CARE TO GO SEE IF THAT FIRE THAT , SOME SAID IT WAS CONTAINED WAS REALLY CONTAINED. SOME TOWNS HAVE A FIRE CHIEF THAT MAKES SURE THAT ONCE A FIRE IS PUT OUT HE LEAVES SOME MEN OR PEOPLE TO WATCH IT FOR TWENTY FOUR HOUS. TO MAKE SURE IT DOES NOT SPARK UP.
ESPECIALLY IF THE DAY IS WINDY. TO ME. AND I SAY IT WITH DEEP SADNESS. THERE IN LAHINIA, THERE WAS NO LEADERSHIP. SO SAD!!! MAY ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DIED THERE REST IN PEACE. 🙏 😌 😪 😔 🙂 😞 🙏 😌 😪 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
the suffering has just begun my friend. you've seen nothing yet.
This is not hell. Hell is a worst place 😐
Thoughtful post. Yes, "unimaginable."
To the beautiful people of Hawaii and especially Lahaina, I am so very sorry for this horrible fire and all who lost their lives and their home. May your pain and suffering be replaced with hope. May the area and its people be treated with respect by people who come to help you all. May the the " wolves in sheep's clothing" stay far away from your area as you all try to rebuild your community. May evil and greed also stay away.
🙏🏽 🙏🏽 🙏🏽 🙏🏽
Well said
These “beautiful” people hate you Latinos and all mainlanders. But they do love your taxpayer funded welfare. Keep the blinders on.
Amen 🙏🏿🙌🏿
Amen! 🙏❤️
Living in Jamaica, before a hurricane begins the power company shuts down the grid. There does not seem to have been any disaster plan. The families of victims should persue a civil case fpr wrongful death.
God bless you all. Hawaii is the earth’s heart center. If I had money to give, I would donate directly to individuals. I wish there was something I could do, but you are all in my heart and I cry when I hear about what you’ve been through.
I survived the aftermath of hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico. We went months without electricity water, cellphone service. So I know what they are going through.
I wonder if Biden will be tossing paper towels to the People in Maui.
@@ledzep3692no he is to busy sending billions to the most corrupt nation in Europe Ukraine
when asked about the fire he said " no comment " ... Trump would have been there. @@ledzep3692
@@ledzep3692
There's always that person that Karma just can't wait to get to. She doesn't forget names or addresses. Remember that as you move in the comments sections. And speaking of presidents who didn't handle a national emergency well....We all can recall one particular idiot by the name of 45 who was too arrogant and stupid to acknowledge that a pandemic had reached our shores. His incompetence led to over one million people dying!!! 😳 Should I talk about all the corruption?? 😈 Don't start none, it won't be none! Have a seat! 🪑
@@ledzep3692where all those big naval fleets, where was the instant emergency disaster relief. IDK?
Not a NATURAL disaster. My heart goes out to all.
It’s a supernatural disaster
I don't think the count for lives lost to this catastrophic attack will be legit when dropped to the public. Only those in Hawaii will ever truly know the actual results. What's been done to these people is so SAD!!
Exactly! I hope and pray Professor Kaeo and his team of Hawaiians rebuild.. Keep these wealthy investors away. 100% goes back to the Hawaiians. Your first guest is as real as it gets. She had video and her genuine and heartfelt explanation made me truly understand and question what would I have done in that situation. God bless her and her family and everyone in Maui.
As per your headline, colonialism has nothing to do with wildfires fed by high winds from a hurricane.
It’s what happens after is the colonialism part.
You miss the point …..he said application of outside forces such as removing native plants and turning the area into resorts. He mentioned it in passing. Whatever the case, colonization is responsible for enough. It’s forefathers who benefitted left the bill to be paid by their children. And pay they will when the chickens come home to roost. The children of the colonized (with ongoing tentacles) are mad as hell and don’t want to take it anymore.
idk it seems like that fire colonized maui pretty good
Clouds are being sprayed that causes extreme weather! Research it!
Don't be daft! That was not a natural anything! That was a DEW!!! People in high positions want that land!!!
Look up fire in Paradise, CA a few years ago....hit by a DEW,
Gov took the land, to run their train thru it.
Nothing natural here!!!!!
I am so very sorry for these people in Hawaii.
Hawaii "does" vote blue, no matta who. Probably not anymore, but, well...now it'll just be Oprah and some friends there so, still blue.
Joe Biden iszzzz zzz
@@NonTypicalRacing prolly not anymore? Are you serious! They will vote Democrat under any circumstance… they are indoctrinated. I wish I was wrong but nothing can save left wing states
In a small island like that, it's easy to know how many died.
How terrifying, such devastation and unimaginable tragedy. Prayers for all of those effected. 🙏💚🕊️
Woman's story made me tear up. Glad they all made it.
That is why she was put there.
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Yea I cried too
Saying Colonialism set the stage for this to happen is like saying colonialism is to blame for any disaster that happens on the mainland. All of the land was stolen from someone at a certain point, so it's weak at best. I think the focus should be on how the current local government failed AND it's current attempt to do a land grab, stealing more land through eminent domain.
This.
The fire is racist.
If you listened to the video it talks about how policies like monoculture and diverting streams dried up the land and made it more flammable.
Agreed. The true goal of that title is to say blame white people.
Here comes the usual deflection speak.
I’m in tears hearing this story! 😢 Something is very fishy 🐠 about this entire fire 🔥 The truth will come out soon, there is nothing hidden under the sun. ☀️
I really feel bad for the people's homes who was severely destroyed and lost family from the fire. I dearly give my condolences. I hope the state of Hawaii will rebuilt their homes and move back in without any of them being displaced
check back in 5 years. they changed some zoning laws in Lahaina before the fire.......they will be displaced....by rich estates or maybe planned micro city? read about that.....something evil about this. this deadly fire should not have happened or been this bad....why internet shut off, water shut off, people blocked from leaving....only resident or private sector doing anything to help....no fire dept? all this is wrong
Fat chance - where is the money coming from? Biden offered $700 per household - end of story.
My heart cries out to people who lost their lives and homes. I wish you well all those who survived. This is the first time I saw a fire that burned the whole town. Why does it looks similar to war movies? Is this really a wild fire?
Es gibt Energiewaffen, die gezielt eingesetzt werden können um bestimmte Flächen frei zu machen für andere Nutzung !
No its not
What about the destruction of Syria, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan by US? What about the lives lost there?
Now the US is spending billions on war in Ukraine, instead of bring peace to the world.
It's a metaphor @@floppletopple
Yes it's really a wildfire. look at oregon, cali, and washington. Whole towns have burned down before
This is heartbreaking. What would one do coming face to face with a wildfire without warning?
Preparedness for natural disasters is needed more than ever before. Two things stand out in this disaster.. sirens were not activated and the power lines were not shut down.
DONT FORGET ABOUT THE LASER BEAM THAT SHOT DOWN FROM SPACE.
And they turned off the water😳
This was done on purpose.
They need a law to protect Maui.
Nobody can buy a square metre of Lahaina. This city belongs to the native people who lived there for generations.
The government needs to rebuild the city exactly as it was. No cost for the people who lost their homes.
Just give them back the city and rebuild every house as it was for the last hundred years.
Better burn down the mansions of Jeff Bezos and Oprah Winfrey.
They have enough mansions all over the world and they shall stay away from Lahaina.
And water was withheld. Wth?
And people were turned back into the fires by their very own law enforcement/ government. Sounds like an attempt of genocide..
How can this be called a forest fire? Looks like arson to me. How very sad and destructive to innocent people. Breaks my heart.
It's not colonialism its globalism. MAUI has been chosen as a Smart Island since 2008. They have to destroy what's there to build the new infrastructure.
I have lived on Maui most of my life. When there are earthquakes the electric company turns off the power just in case there are lines down. I believe the electric company should have turned the power off when they knew the winds were over 60 miles an hour
Really makes you wonder why they didn't!!
Who is "the electric company", do they live on Maui? Did they lose homes and family, too?
@@Fletchlives247makes your wonder why they are quasi blaming the electric company with no evidence
Sounds very fishy huh?
Like Oprah's 1000 acres were not buned?
That makes too much sense
Democracy Now! "How Colonialism Set the Stage for Maui's Destruction by Fire". That's the title of your video? It's not enough that people are dead and dying and you try to politicize it by using that title? My heart is with all of the people of Hawaii.
Maybe they should have proper forrest management? Americans killed colonialism when they fought the English, to the abolish slavery! Americans are an amazing people and now they are under attack
This isn't due to 'colonialism', its sad that some would use this tragedy to push their twisted ideology... Why not report on Oprah Winfreys awful behaviour and 'charity'?
The title of this video is stupid, but what these people are going through is absolutely unimaginable. My heart goes out to these people going through this.
A self made disaster complete with built-in propaganda.
The title of this video does exactly what it's supposed to do: Further divide this country and blame something that doesn't exist. Where is our president? Why did he send 2b dollars just now to Ukraine instead of sending that money and aide to the people of our country; Hawaii
I'm sure the natives don't think it's stupid
Yeah. It's kind of like slavery. It's best not to think of these things, because they might upset some people and cause them to see that things may be a little unequal.
The native people of Hawaii would 100% think that’s stupid.
Make no mistake about it. This was not a “natural disaster!” This was caused by incompetence, negligence and unpreparedness. Hawaiian’s will rise because of this and unite. 🙏🏽😎🤙🏿❤️
And they will vote back in the inept leadership
It was a natural disaster. It was a combination of old wooden buildings, drought, hurricane force winds and a fire spreading rapidly. What did u expect anyone to do in this situation? Even if people were warned there were traffic jams, debris everywhere and embers flying around. The town was engulfed in flames fast!
I would say it was the low standards of Hawaiians/Polynesians that contributed to the poor management that allowed them to ignore warnings for years that fires were a threat. Look, having a relaxed outlook on life in nice. It helps people live a low stress life. We all want that. But if you ignore things because they are too much work for you to deal with and don't care about safety, disasters can happen. This was a freak occurrence, to be sure. So let's learn from it. Hopefully this will be the end of wood construction there.
Oh you were there to witness that 1st hand? You live in Hawaii? Because if you don't you should shut your dirty mouth.
I don't think so i believe they using the power station and high winds as a scape goat to explain why the fire persisted i believe its high energy beam weapons.
THE GOVERNOR REFUSED TO SET OFF THE SIRENS. THEY DID NOT TURN ON THE WATER.
Not only was the energy not turned off. The trees and brush were not cleared at least 10 feet from electric wires. They should have been in order to prevent fires from happening in the first place! What happened was absolutely outrageous!
This wasn't a natural cause,the Government did this.
I wonder if the area will be rebuilt into a 15 minute city now that there is nothing left. My prayers go out to all who have suffered in this tragedy.
No, this is an elite land grab. They just needed the current residents gone.
Its an island, 46 miles long and 26 miles wide. It was probably already a 15 min city. Lol
The fires were started for the 15 min city..
Vote blue. It'll repeat.
Why wouldn't they? It was already pretty damn close to it.
How does the state with so many expensive homes/tax revenue and much tourism have such insufficient fire warnings?
Government officials walk slower when their pockets are filled with cash…
🤔Why do I get the feeling that this fire was intentionally set by some malignant persons??? :(
And now the warning to those native Hawaiians is what Amy and her interviewee said. Greedy "investors" will likely try to get their highy-desirable land. It's always like that. During the 2008 Financial Crisis, and during COVID-19, a time when untold millions went completely under, and drowned, the richest 1% grew in wealth by staggering amounts, and that continues to this day.
China will be first in line to buy the island!
Yep, happened in Puerto Rico after Maria and Fiona, and in Ft. Myers, FL after Ian. Locals can't afford to live. Disaster capitalists all over the place!
The government should replace anything that was lost. If we can send billions to other countries surely we can repay our own citizens during natural disasters.
All deliberate They keep growing because very few people believe the conspiracy theorists.
Can't leave a tragedy alone without using it to gaslight others.
Exactly, let’s use this tragedy to blame white people somehow. What a joke. Your life is what you make it. If life is hard in Hawaii then find a way to get out. Don’t blame others for your situation.
Yeah, they have no doubt forgot about how the Hawaiian tribes were colonizers themselves.
I agree, this is in such poor taste. Do these people have no shame? No empathy?
If not for the colonizers alot of people wouldn't even be there
@@marcbernicker206 wouldn't that be the point?
I'm so sorry! But as a retired firefighter that spent most of my time fighting big big brush fires. We went into the mouth of the beast and put them out we protected big homes on the edges of these large woods full of lots of dead underlying brush compiled over many years. These fires burned Very very hot..
To create a good hot fire you must have fuel to burn . That is a must above all. Then you need good oxygen which all fires in the open have . And you need something to ignite it which is evident .
When i look at the arial footage from the plane in this video. You see at the base of the mountains where it started and burned across the grassy plain to the first course of homes furthest from the ocean. Knee high grass fires are not going to produce enough fuel, and temps that created the metal melting inferno this thing turned into.. Something besides this grass fire was being used to feed these flames into a ragging inferno. As you get into neighborhoods with walls and decorative plants and shrubs around the property. It will burn but not what you need to produce this fire. On front Street theres a two story building with asphalt parking lotat least 60 ft wide al around the building with no brush or fuel source of any kind. The metal structural I beams were heated to temps over 2000 degrees to twist and disfigure them . Theres no fuel anywhere around to create these temps. Something else was in play here people. Also no water to the hydrants!! Are you kidding me!! Even after the fire chief is screaming for water. Id lock everyone involved in this fire up immediatly until there story could prove them as innocent of crimes Against humanity. Streets and all exits were blocked off to hwy and other routes out to trap people in there to be sacrafied. Police were replying when asked why they were blocking exit routes! They replied!! Just following orders. This was a planned attack on this land. I dont care what any official said otherwise. Then to see the laws that protected this land be removed so no claims would have to be paid by insurance companies. No rebuilding permits would be issued. Its a huge issue taking place.. Im sorry to say these things . But as a firefighter i can express my opinion as a comparison to what ive experienced and seen. This grass fire could of very easily been stopped way before it came close to any homes. Weve done it numerous times as a firefighter. God be with us all in getting the truth out for all to witness..
This can happen anywhere at any time. I experienced a fire at my apartment complex a few weeks ago and the alarms were just tested a few weeks before but no alarms went off when a fire started at my complex. Fortunately it was during the day and I was home. I had just gone out to a store and returned and 30 minutes later, a lady across the hall noticed a fire a few feet from the complex and was banging on doors to get everyone out and then the police showed up and they did a great job. There were over 200 firefighters and no one was killed or hurt and I am so sad and sorry for Mai and I am praying for the families who have no place to go and the families who lost their loved ones. Something sinister happened and I hope they find out who is responsible and they'll be put behind bars not released. Why weren't there alarms? Some evil people I think are involved.
Good for you.
Lol not on a military base. With sophisticated alarm systems.
This is the result of sheer mismanagement and or incompetence. Not a single fireline was cut around any of the residential areas/towns during the dry season. Similar to the negligence that led to the California wildfires.
Almost on purpose
@@tedbear6012 I'm all for suing the power companies and government, but to claim this was intentional without proof does a disservice to everybody. Even Alex Jones wouldn't make such a claim.
Yeah but how’s that affirmative action working for you now 🤣
You mean it wasn't laser beams from outer space?🤔
Climate change. We’ve known this was coming for 40 years.
My heart goes out to Maui brothers and sisters. Sending positive energy that this is dealt with quickly and the people are taken care of.
Directed Energy Weapon burned Hawaii; Biden's decisions killed many many people;
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It will be decades for the town to be rebuilt IF they can defeat the powers that be in their attempt to seize the land and build a smart city. Prayers for all affected by this catastrophe and carnage. It is heartbreaking beyond all words. 🙏🙏🙏
This reminds me of the typhoon that hit the islands back in the early 90s. All the insurance companies went bankrupt. The government covered it up.
Condolences to all families who lost loved ones . That beautiful coastal property is prime real estate🧐 and I'm disturbed by this.
I live in Hawaii, I’ve lived in Lahaina. I have immense sympathy for this community. However, the sirens would not have made a difference as the fire moved too fast. With hurricanes and, tsunamis, and earthquakes give us some warning, some time where the sirens help but with a fast moving fire all the sirens in the world would not have helped much. I wish they would quit focusing on the siren when they KNOW it wouldn’t have made a difference. And, by experience, I have witnessed too many locals ignore the sirens during hurricane warnings. They have the attitude “ it’s gonna pass” . Makes me really doubt anything would’ve changed. Stop trying to blame something no one could’ve done anything to stop it at that time on people or agencies that couldn’t have known what was to happen. Stop with the sirens. With so much devastation the lack of preparedness is also the fault of the citizens. Since Hurricane Iwa , I have kept emergency rations and readiness plans in tact. I take it seriously, unfortunately, so many in Hawaii have the attitude, “it won’t happen to us.” This is a devastating wake up call that it CAN happen to us and it shows us how unprepared we ALL are.
Well said!
We as humans can always do better. Everything, every "disaster" should be evaluated with a fine comb. Your defeatist attitude will not help progress. Also you could see the fire make its way through a giant farmland to the town. There was plenty of time for the sirens and if the sirens wouldnt help, what are they for? A simple siren while the fire was in the farmland with wind direction giving a obvious path of the fire, a siren wouldve help save at least one life. Maybe you could explain to everyone why its ok no sirens went off and that the power was left on so fire fighters cant get to areas needed and also possibly not create more fires since it was SO windy. Also, where was the head of Maui emergency response team? out of town, I answered for you, so the second in command then, out of town too, there I got that for you too. There was a obvious lack of preparedness and compitence that led to loss of life. Yes it was a horrible fire with bad winds on dry conditions but that fire didnt start in Lahiana, it still took a lot of time to get through the fields and into the town. Please dont work for a emergency response team.
Fire can move so quickly for certain. The sirens would have helped people make decisions more quickly no matter the situation on the ground. It wouldn’t have helped the fire stoppage- it definitely helps let people know to move NOW. All so sad. My hope is those who’ve made so much money on the backs of the people there do the right things form a bit of their profits.
Other interviews w homeowners from wild fire zones in California stated if individuals are able to put out small fires sparked by embers flying into he air then more buildings could be saved, but w that kind of wind I don't see how that would even work, even if every home / street would have had fire fighting water hoses or something, esp combined w the power lines going down and sparking new fires.
Owning a moped or scooter in Hawaii is well worth the SMALL investment.
Me and my mother was just having a conversation about her hometown in Texas how when they start building dams and what they did to the water that was coming through their community. Nobody talks about how they come in and steal the water from people that lives in these places for four companies
Who is "they"?
@@wapiti128 A couple of muskrats and their cohorts.
@@wapiti128 come on where have you been in the last few years anyone with open eyes knows exactly who “they” are lol when things are a miss “they” rely on you closing your eyes, simple as that
@@adamsmith6973they’re people that get off on just opposing, they have nothing of value to actually add lmao
@@wapiti128the greedy. Read California Burning by Katherine Blunt
Praying for Maui ❤
This was not an accident, this was purposely done, whoever started this is surely going to pay for thier actions.
Kaleikoa i pray you stay safe while speaking out about this, and hope that the natives can get the say in rebuilding, although we all know those in charge are not going to make that easy .. clearly imo this was done on purpose and DEWs were involved and they will do everything they can to continue to take your land from you right under your nose.. i hope this doesnt happen and your community can stand your ground ❤
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nonsense, and you also believe Apollo 11 was fake, take it somewhere else.
There’s no one that can convince me that this wasn’t intentional. They’ve been trying to steal Kanaka Maoli lands for hundreds of years! Open your eyes everyone! 700$!!!
SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS!?!?
American taxpayers are sending hundreds of billions and trillions for endless warfare across the planet and that’s how much these people are going to receive?!
This is making me ill.
If ever there was a time for a righteous fight against globalists it is NOW.
The vultures are already circling. Indigenous Hawaiians have never mattered. How do people like Winfrey and Zuckerberg own so much acreage on these small islands while the indigenous go without? I’m convinced this was an attack. This is some of the most expensive real estate on the planet.
Kanaka Maoli STAND STRONG AND TAKE BACK ALL YOUR LAND! It is YOUR LAND!
@andrewcanady6644 sorry to hear that, I wish there was more I could do from the other side of the country ..I really hope they can hold their ground and as a community help each other rebuild
I heard a story from a local that was running from the fire with her neighbor & the fire was moving a block in less than 15 seconds. Unfortunately, she lost her neighbor while running & she barely made it by jumping over the wall into the ocean. She was in the water for 7+ hours & she would feel hypothermic, so she would move closer to the fire to warm up but then her body would begin to burn from the heat of the fire. There are hundreds of stories like this. I'm sending Lahaina all my love & prayers. Ke hoʻouna aku nei au i koʻu aloha a me nā pule.🙏 Lahaina will never be the same. 💔
Broken heart 💔
Still has nothing to do with colonialism. Things start on fire. It seems to me that this fire was set. There have been plants to turn Maui into a 15 minute smart city fora. long time now. Everything will be electric, governed by AI, and people will not need to go anywhere to get anything. Just like in prison.
Stuck between two extremes
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the waters warm there
The power company said they de-energized the lines in the morning, way before the fire started. Grass fires and even a real wildfire doesn’t make it look as if a nuke went off!
THIS WASN'T NATURAL. TELL THE FREAKING TRUTH!!!
Deep condolences to everyone caught by or consumed by these very tragic fires from a French dude. "Heart breaking" is not a word I often use, but here reflects my feeling.
Little to no alert / siren, "splendid beaches", so many houses burnt, no visible nearby woods that would explain some of the power & speed... For God sake, I hope there are no "real estate" interests at any level behind these saddening destructions.
I remember years ago,when there was No alarm when there was a"National Alert," during Trump's begining term,and the reason given by a representative of the Alert System in Hawaii was "vague,Not given with any degree of veracity.
I would advise an investigation be done on who profits the MOST from this destruction. Do our rulers (the 1%, wealthyest Americans) plan on constructing a military base there, with nuclear weapons??
Yeah, but we know that there are. Capitalism at all costs, even of human life.
Greed makes people do some trifling things
There’s no one that can convince me that this wasn’t intentional. They’ve been trying to steal Kanaka Maoli lands for hundreds of years! Open your eyes everyone! 700$!!!
SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS!?!?
American taxpayers are sending hundreds of billions and trillions for endless warfare across the planet and that’s how much these people are going to receive?!
This is making me ill.
If ever there was a time for a righteous fight against globalists it is NOW.
The fallen powerlines trapping folks due to not being turned off. The warning system failing. My condolences the community. They should not have to be displaced... They want to and deserve to remain on their land. A concern they're already voicing.🙏🏾
It was Not A Natural Fire 🔥 It was A Energy Directed Fire 🔥
What I don’t understand is how they keep blaming the powerlines for starting the fire when the power was out. How is that even possible?
Wow, "Colonialization" is rapidly being blamed for all the ills in this country.
Chinese and Russians pay people a lot of money to invoke colonial fault.
Which was exactly what I was thinking when I read that title. Can't wait for the ashes to cool before we start politicizing tragedy. Can't give the people and their families time to grieve and comprehend what they just went through without giving them a full burst of "skew the narrative through any particular straw man that stands out" BS.
I have a growing disdain for the political commentators and political elites who continually demonstrate that they have no class.
I looked for this comment. No one mentions it in this thread! I all of a sudden don't feel crap for them. Horrible title!
Because it is. Especially regarding nature. They never learned how to work with nature. Colonization is really Capitalism in an almost pirate like rape and pillage mentality.
It was Trump's fault - of course lol.
My heart goes out to Lahaina, my wife and I survived the Camp Fire in Paradise, Ca. on 11-8-18 6am. It brings back a lot of emotion these two fires are to similar. Paradise Strong/ Maui Strong
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These Smart Meters are not what many people actually think they are. S.M.A.R.T. = Secret Military Armament (in/for) Residential Technologies. They remove the Dots as a Marketing Strategy so people think its a Word instead of an Acroym. Besides being unstable (and health destroying), they're key ignition points for covert military attack.
Blaming it on colonialism? I’m surprised your not saying Trump did it.
Ain't Nothing Natural About This 🔥
Maui and the rest of Hawaii needs to restrict out of state and foreign investors from diving up prices to a point where indigenous people can't afford to live in their own lands.
EXACTLY!
America is for sale ... everywhere in America is for sale ... if you want price protection you will have to move to Mexico
@@andrewmclaughlin2701Andrew, I live in a city in SW Mexico. Rents are now so high that only us gringos, I'm ashamed to say, and rich Mexicans from elsewhere, can afford to live here.
I agree.
This was no accident these non pale natives using mass gentrification
Reports of fire popping nup from underground and the utility wasn't shut off. Reminds me of the fire in Paradise California.
well because the ones in charge were MIA. Head of maui emergency response, out of town, second in command, out of town, no one knew what to do....absolute ineptitude.
Exactly like the Paradise Fire in California 😰
@@MrSneaksfulAmazing how those in charge were all off the island. Didn't this happen at night time too? Where were they and why weren't they there, if they lived there?
Soon as winds went to tropical storm levels the main should have been shut off to prevent snapping wires from doing damage
These are the questions everyone should be asking!!! And we should demand honest answers!
Dear Amy
.Many of some of the world's richest people own mansions and hectares of land in Maui in a part of the island
Which have not at all been affected by this environmental and human catastrophe.
I understand that Locals in the area where this incredible destruction has taken place have been approached by realtors for some time. They have resisted. Strange, is it not? that this incredible destruction which has cost many lives and destroyed houses and infrastructure happened in this part of the island.
Plans to build a "Smart city" in the utterly destroyed area are circulating on alternative media channels. Is this true? 😮All conspiracy theories I hear from the fact checkers Thanks for your info DN but what happened in Maui needs to be investigated, properly investigated.
Democracy Now, please investigate further to let the world know what really happened in Maui.
Nobody knows right now.
What the general public is told right now, globally, is that this catastrophe has been caused by climate change, like the fires in Greece, Rhodes, Corfu, Canada. THAT is the main message.
Yes, climate change is happening but the incessant message all over the world is that climate change is the major culprit. Ps. The authorities in Rhodes and Corfu have said that the recent fires were most likely caused by arson because various fires occurred simultaneously in different places. What's going on?
In my view this report re the terrible disaster is very shallow. Dig deeper. This is not good enough. Sorry.
People should know that In Hawaii on the first Tuesday of the month there is a testing of the emergency warning sirens. Hawaii doesn’t have a wild fire warning siren. There is 4 siren alarms and each one is a different sound for the specific impending danger to be warned of. But I think anyone of those sirens could still be set off because people will pay attention to sirens going off during a time of day where they aren’t being tested. I think for as big as the fire was, cars exploding and the amount of smoke engulfing the streets people would get a clue that it’s time to run. Law enforcement was on the scene on loud speakers telling the people in their homes and businesses to evacuate. I’m saying you don’t need the state of Hawaii to set off alarms! Just grab your family and go!!
One only need to look at California to see how utility companies are not held accountable for fires caused by wind and powerlines. They are aware, yet do nothing to mitigate the problem. Meanwhile, our rates increase all of the time.
Nonsense. I used to live there. Plans for a second highway have always been proportional but Hawaiian activists have been against it, which is understandable. But this is the problem when you live on a tiny island and have only a two lane treacherous road in and out of the place. Evacuation of 20000 people will be impossible.
Everyone asks and wants infrastructure, electricity, fossil fuels, etc. but then they'll complain about how it's bad for the environment while using all the services provided by the resources they whine about. All you can do is roll your eyes.
Exactly. The Tahoe Basin is setting itself up for something similar if the right conditions occur. There's only one road around Tahoe, one lane in either direction with few exits out of the basin and on any given summer day, it's essentially a parking lot. The cost just to widen the road is mind boggling with the environmental impact work alone expensive and years in the making. Bonus fact? The Tahoe Basin has a scenario for a Tsunami event that would result in the deaths of tens of thousands with weeks before large scale rescue efforts would be effective.
IT WAS NOT A RANDOM ACT OF NATURE, IT WAS SELECTIVE AND ORCHESTRATED
Don’t blame the colonists that existed hundreds of years ago. Blame the us government. They wanted to build a telescop on Mauna Kea long before this happened. The natives said no and this is what they did. This is not normal!!
When she said, she told her kids to run and not look back...I lost it. HalleluYAH her and her family are alive!
When she said her 9yr old daughter’s response was she couldn’t leave her, she couldn’t do it, my throat tightened.
That was biblical what she said to her children to run and look back..
@@chandrareid6966 and where exactly was God while people died? I thought he was all powerful.
@chandrareid6966 yes, Lot's wife. The destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah with fire and sulphur by The Almighty GOD YAH, amen.
Did you ever think that Satan caused that disaster or man kind instead did not warn the people to evacuate the island in time. Stop blaming God for everything because some disasters are occurring are man made.(hint colonism, corporate America, greed). The rich were already buying up land in Maui and pushing the native Hawaiians off the island. 🤔
Thank you for providing this platform for Professor Kaeo to talk about Lahaina's history from the Native Hawaiian perspective. It is crucial for the rebuilding of Lahaina to be led by the Native Hawaiians who have been there for generations and carried out with traditional Hawaiian practices of sustainable land use.
So called prof nah nah 😂
I agree. And I hope that a (traditional) Hawaiian spiritual ceremony will be held in memory of Hawaiians who lost their lives during this terrible tragedy. Mahalo
Read California Burning by Katherine Blunt
@@thebrierpatch8488 and colonizers never killed ? Or stole? Or kidnap babies or young women? Or take other people's water sources? Or poisoned blankets with small pox?
@@AncientRe Look in the mirror, you'll see another.
They said that the warning sirens were not activated because everyone knows those sirens are for tsunamis. That would've signaled people to move further inland and into the fire. It was better for people to move towards the shore, not away from it. So unfortunately, there are sirens that signal people to move deeper inland, but no way to warn people that they need to move closer to the shore. That makes sense as to why the sirens were not activated. They say many children were burned to death. 😥 This is the most painful way to die. Those sweet little babies. Why??? I pray for the people of Hawaii. I pray for children suffering around the world. Heavenly Father, this world needs your intervention Most High, Lord God, YHWH. 🙏
Those who do not know the history of Hawaii will never understand, what the U.S. has done to this beautiful Island and its natives.
Iyuuhu😅
tell us then
Whyte people stole it
Stop your whining
I guess the Spanish and the British get a pass?
Alarm didn’t go off, The water fire hydrants were empty 🤦🏽♂️ these government works never failed to cash those pay cheques every pay day 🤦🏽♂️. Hirono is horrible and Hirono needs to go away
They purposely did this to build back better! Pure evil, they have blood on their hands.
When they rebuild they should put the electrical lines underground from the wind and fire. So this never happens again.
Probably build their houses out of stone not stick... maybe do some fire management as well.
Or end all modern convenience on the islands.
@@andrewmclaughlin2701•There & EVERYWHERE!-for that matter!
They cannot put them underground the salt water destroys them. They can however do what florida does make concrete poles then two hours before the winds comes they get turned off. Makes the job super easy fir lineman like my son to restore power back to the poles.
@@trextv2154 they have concrete poles in FL?? Interesting after Irmaria they put in fiber glass poles, ya know the drill "cat 25 rated"..... Then Dorian turned into a cat 1 on our heads and snapped a few 🤣🤔🤨
As a survivor of Hurricane Katrina my heart goes out to all affected
As a survivor of 9/11 I feel this pain! May GOD continue to comfort them and us 🙏🏾.
Great, you should be mad that these "environmental" events are still being used to kill people. Write to your Senator and ask if there will be a Arson and Mass Murder investigation. Motive: Gov Green looking for 51 acres in Lahani to build the 75M govt housing project called The Villages at Leaili'i. Interesting, 3 people were arrested last year for trying to set the very same area on fire...it's not the first arson attempt.
@@PhenoMikally Absolutely. Let Sky Fairy Lawd Jebus protect them all like the 3000 people to whom he turned his back on 9/11.
@@tim3172 the Gospel of Judas warns us of who owns this realm..
The Church of Baal is alive and well..
@@72marshflower15 Right, the Globalists , at WEF headquarters in Switzerland.
Best report to date. I could feel the trauma in-their voices.
Its very painful to loose your community. Many cities provides neighborhood but no communities. So sorry for your loss.
Utility lines, that's how Thomas fire in Ventura CA started, spread by Santa Ana winds (60-80 mph gusts) in a drought condition. Water hydrants failed. Cell service dropped so evac alerts were not delivered. The fire traveled from Santa Paula to Ventura in just over an hour. Non native trees and plants fueled the fire. Our native oak and manzanita smoulder but don't ignite, but the imported eucalyptus and palm trees exploded like a wooden matchstick. So many similarities. Apart from the death toll.
We as a country aren't prepared for wildfire disasters.
We as a planet aren't prepared.
We had 150 mph winds in FL, power left on till the wind causes them to lose power, there were no fires! 50 years in FL, they've never shut off power in a wind storm.
Interesting it just seems like this was staged or a plot for all we know the 1% saw how devastating the fires were in your state and decided to test run it again...I could be wrong but truth is stranger than fiction rn
@@sharoncrider7444Is FL subject to drought conditions? I don't know much about the terrain. We have miles of dry grass, scrub brush, non native trees, so there was plenty of fuel. Power lines provided the spark. Nature provided the oxygen as hot, dry, high winds.
FL may not have the same need for power downing. We now have power downs whenever winds reach over a certain speed. It's a bit too late though.
Yes you are so correct. With everything that is happening we must as citizens be proactive in the planning and execution of emergency procedures. We so often just leave it up to others and I too am guilty of that very thing. Some events cannot be avoided or stopped but most can. We must get involved and not be so trusting of others doing things right.
Wow, after all the grief California got with their power-company-caused fires, one would think any power company in the US would be aware of the folly of not shutting down during this kind of high winds.
They don't care because they'll contribute to political campaigns and the government will allow a rate increase to transfer the costs to the taxpayers. Keep voting Democrat, Hawaii. See how well it's worked for us in California? 😆 🤣 😂
And it would be crazy talk to actually bury the power lines underground in areas of high winds or foliage
Ppl need to really woke up seriously keep thinking ur government love an care about you it dnt matter what side you pick they all on the same team keep playin with y'all life with evil az demons (YAH) warned of us about these ppl an y'all keep voting for them smmfh
Too greedy
Re-read your statement and ask what would people do in the summer or winter with no power? Second, why did Sacramento stop the power companies from clearing the underbrush near the power lines?
Nothing natural about that fire and melted cars with surviving trees and grasses only feet away.
Not anyone's problem when the Amazon is being destroyed or natives were lied to after US lost Wabash. Or standing rock when the US army attacked a few years ago. This is how they get off.
Mrs. Vaa, you and your husband are the real heroes. Kaeo, thank you for remembering all those who died. So, there was no power before the fire. The power station for Lahainaluna is at the bottom of the road across from the old Pioneer Mill. Videos show Power lines were down all over. How did the power get up to that part of Lahainaluna to start the fire? Is this a case of fire for profit? One month earlier the governor was sharing his dream for the new modern "Smart City" of Lahaina. This was as keynote speaker to WEF/ New World Order. Guess he can see his dream come true now. Is this how they plan to build all their new Smart Cities? On the ashes of the dead.
All very convenient for the bullies, in charge, who wanted to buy up the land.
So sad for the residents.
Prayers for them.
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Its a very weird wildfire.
Something doesn't look right, somehow. Homes totally flattened, 1000 degrees but many trees still standing?
Very odd. 🙄
And if you look at one of the photos there's a huge resort hotel standing and everything around it for as far as you can see in the photo is flattened.
Cause they didn't want them to live they wanted them dead and that's what happened,no sirens or nothing 😢😢😢 Sad
Oh, my God didn’t get stuck in traffic. The police blocked them so they would all die. The highways were completely open “escape if we all don’t stand up and fight or government, it’s going to come into our back door the government got sloppy with this job, and the fact that you’re speaking that it was a powerline accident is blown. There is so much evidence here to prove the evil intent on these people and what they’re still going through no help
Using this event to further Anti-White propaganda is sick, but I would expect nothing less from democracy now.
It's not democracy that does this, it is anti-western marxist anti-American pro-fascist/communistic forces and theocratic forces, so basically all of America's enemies have spread these ideas and they have hijcaked the enitre left with SJWism and huge swaths of the right with isolationism. Isolationism only helps CCP/Kremlin, SJWism does the same, funny enough, they both demonize America and pretend we are the devils, both ideologies fall for the CCP/Kremlin/Mao/Stalin narratives that have been propagated for decades that demonize our history while ignoring the bad histories of non-westerners. This is straight out of Stalin's mind. Marxist SJWism demonizes Westerners and whines on about "Stolen land and Imperialism" all the time ignoring the reality that all land is stolen. Isolationists have started to do the same, and whine on about how the West is "Imperialist" and NATO is evil but somehow Russia and China can conquer as much land as they want, but we cannot even send aid or intervene? Double standards designed to neuter our military power, what happened to American military pride? WE've all lost trust in government and DNC and GOP, but why lose trust in our own capabilities to fight off the foreign invaders before they even make it out of their home nation? We're America, it's clear Isolationism is an attempt to neuter our global power, how can anyone who calls themselves a patriot be isolationist, that message is to all the modern MAGA who hate Neocons and Coproratism so much that they have sold themselves to barbarian foreignors foreign policy goals (Isolationism only helps the elites of our enemy, don't destroy our nation to spite our elites, being ruled by foreign elites would be even worse, lets deal with our home elites and our foreign elites, all enemies, foreign and domestic, remember?).
Isolationism and SJWism are both wings of the enemy, weapons of ideology and planted seeds of division. Isolationism is rightwing Anti-Americanism and Anti-Westernism and Anti-Free Worldism, while SJWism is the same but for the leftwing. Both want to see a collapse of the power of the Free World. SJWs believe we live in some fascist dystopia, and Isos believe we live in some communist dystopia, reality is both of you are loons who are going to try to bring us to either of those scenarios. SJWs hate the idea that humanity might possibly be diplomatically and economically united by the United States because they hate white people, and Isos hate it cause they think their own elites might hate white people and will sell us off to unite humanity. Yes, the Free World has grown in recent history, but this is a good thing, we just need to ignore the divide et impera propaganda from Isos and SJWs, who from two directions attempt to destroy all the work our ancestors have died for. Isos aren't anti-white, but they don't realize that they support a foreign policy that would lead to the rise of CCP as sole superpower, which would not be good for any group of people, even Chinese people to be honest, as they'd just be warrior slaves in Jinping's conquests. SJWs pretty much are anti-white, at this point they openly admit that they think white males are evil and they scapegoat them for everything. The overlap comes with the US government and colonialism and interventionism, Isos and SJWs tend to agree on things regarding the US-Kremlin, which is so weird, Isos pretend to be patriots yet follow the Putin/KGB narrative? And its not a new narrative either, this is Stalin's narrative, you know, the Communist, yet Isos say they are anti-communist? yet they are spreading tankie propaganda, some of them have gone so far to defend the CCP Empire. I mean that's insane. A republican, a MAGA person, defending the CCP against America???????
WHAT???!!!
WHY??? I know you guys hate Biden...but...WhAT THE FUK. Don't betray your entire nation just cause you don't like the DNC, I don't like the DNC either, but our nation is more important, we've lost so many in wars fighting for freedom, don't give it all up now by falling for the enemy's lies.
The fact that SJWs and Isos find some common ground in the Communist marxist talking points about how the West is Imperialist despite the US not annexing an inch of ground in over 120 years while the Kremlin/Soviets have done so all the time even right now and CCP has done so as well, from Tibet/Xinjiang to more recent annexations of Vietnamese and Filipino Islands. Well, that should be a red flag, it should show you that the isos and sjws are both manipulated by the same anti-American, anti-Western, anti-democratic forces.
Democracy isn't the problem. Anti-Americanism is. America created democracy, the best idea in human history, and now our own people are being manipulated from both sides to abandon all the progress our ancestors have made for enlightenment liberal democracy, the form of government our founding fathers invented.
...colonialism is to blame? Are you people HIGH!? Is there anything you WON'T associate with race and/or politics!?
When my husband and i honeymooned here i fell in love with Maui. Then we took my late mama. Of course you arrive at the airport in the evening and so we settled into our condo...mom was so excited that next morning and she said, i quote. " God must have stopped here first" what she meant was because of every flower , every plant, every tree ,every rainbow 🌈 everywhere you look is beautiful. ❤❤❤
Then Democrats burnt it down because they didn't get the votes for the smart City. Now they can make the smart City
I won a trip to Hawaii 25 yrs ago. Flowers even growing in ditches. I thought "Everyone on Earth should visit Hawaii before dying.
And Maui is the prettiest of all its Islands 🏝 😍 💕