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  • At some point in humanity's future, maybe sooner than we think, we will have to deal with the reality of potentially conscious artificial intelligences. If the mind is in fact merely an emergent byproduct of a complex brain then there is no reason that other complex forms could not also give birth to other emergent forms of consciousness. Such forms of consciousness would not be based on any biological form of evolution. Their desires and wishes might seem entirely foreign and indecipherable to humans, for we are incapable of escaping beyond the bubble which is our own perception. The potential relationship between mankind and machine intelligence has been explored in countless science fiction books, Isaac Asimov, Frank Hebert, Ian M. Banks, have all written about this idea in various different way. But in this video will will discuss one of the most interesting examples, in one of the most often overlooked book series.
    The Hyperion Cantos is a series of science fiction books written by Dan Simmons. The books begin several hundreds of years into our own future. In this time after the “Big Mistake” Which destroyed all life on the planet Earth, humankind has spread out among the galaxy and formed the Hegemony which connected hundreds of worlds by Farcaster technology, which was created by the technocore. Fatline Technology, also a gift from the Core, allowed for instantaneous communication and travel between equipped worlds. Farcaster technology, like many others, had been a gift from the Technocore. The Technocore was a combination of Artificial intelligences that had originated on earth but eventually evolved self awareness and sentences. The Technocore evolved to become distinct from humanity itself as it was a major player on the galactic stage, acting as its own independent society. The relationship between the technocore and the human race was seemingly a cooperative one, the Technore even advised the hegemony, through avatars of their own creation.
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  • @TheSilverOrn
    @TheSilverOrn Před 2 lety +470

    I actually kinda loved that humans birthed AI that were essentially human complete with disagreements, arguments on how to proceed, and even wars between each other. I loved that when the technocore found hardcore proof of another artificial intelligence different from their own they collectively crapped their pants the same way humanity would if they found proof of an alien race.

    • @asimian8500
      @asimian8500 Před 2 lety +50

      Today's machine learning algorithms already have human biases based on pattern matching large troves of data. So, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that a true AI would be more human-like than alien-like.
      Alien cores would reflect their creators, but I would think that the Technocore and an alien core could start communication by initially using math and then develop a grammar/language with little ambiguity. This could take only seconds.

    • @320466
      @320466 Před 2 lety +23

      it wasn't another AI
      it was the wolf the lion and the bear i believe, it was the telepathic connection of other species. that was what the technocore wanted to be come ultimate AI in the space that binds but gets kicked out by aforementioned intelligences cause they saw the merciless of the Ai

    • @TheSilverOrn
      @TheSilverOrn Před 2 lety +15

      @@320466 Yes, but I think some of the technocore actually believed it to be some form of AI that was alien to them. The whole story basically boiling down to AI god vs Meat god is an interesting concept.

    • @zazugee
      @zazugee Před 2 lety +5

      @@TheSilverOrn you mean a super human inteligence in the future? that's why they created the shriek to lure it?

    • @TheSilverOrn
      @TheSilverOrn Před 2 lety +20

      @@zazugee I will post a spoiler, but please don't read it if you don't want to be spoiled for the meta plot of the series.
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      Basically there is a machine god created when all AI ascend to a next level of existence and merge. There is a "biological" god that is the same exact thing except with organic life. The machine god wants to kill the organic god, but the organic god either doesn't want to fight or can't beat the machine god so it flees. Its power is still in the future at the end of time, but its spirit is someplace the machine god can't go. The machine god sends back the shrike to torture living forms as the pain generated by living things will force god to come back and help them, but that will also mean the machine god can kill god. There is some back and forth where apparently the biological god can actually control the Shrike because the Shrike is powered by the soul of a living being and its love, so there are a lot of levels.

  • @DanielGreeneReviews
    @DanielGreeneReviews Před 2 lety +252

    Well this is well timed for me.

    • @7ekis450
      @7ekis450 Před 2 lety +9

      Hyperion lore AND Hyperion review all in one day!

    • @citizensguard3433
      @citizensguard3433 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah… not bad for a book that came out a year and a half after I was born.
      Crazy how things can take on a new life thanks to the internet.

    • @citizensguard3433
      @citizensguard3433 Před 2 lety +3

      @Daniel Greene The people will now expect a collab from you two!
      I’m saying it, and Rule 32 of the internet says saying something will make it happen! ;-)

    • @joshrivers5191
      @joshrivers5191 Před 2 lety

      I noticed. Dont squander this opportunity.

    • @jeffgrey2746
      @jeffgrey2746 Před 2 lety

      Hey Daniel. I love your channel, expecially the video of th coke snorting GOT writer!

  • @TheJaviferrol
    @TheJaviferrol Před 2 lety +172

    Thats one of the beauties of Hyperion; the Technocore isnt a Skynet that wants to kill/enslave humanity. It has 3 factions and each have their own ideas and act and confront each other upon them

    • @Kenshiro3rd
      @Kenshiro3rd Před 2 lety +11

      They all want to use human brains for memory and processing power though. They just disagree on how to obtain them.

    • @TheJaviferrol
      @TheJaviferrol Před 2 lety +13

      @@Kenshiro3rd Not really; the Stables saved Old Earth cause they don´t wanna have any future repercussions from the humans and don´t wanna die to become part of the Intelligence God.

    • @Kenshiro3rd
      @Kenshiro3rd Před 2 lety +4

      @@TheJaviferrol I know. However like humans ever increasing need for food/living space the technocore need processing power/memory. Stables simply want coexistence. They accomplished this this via utilizing brains connected to the network via the portals they passed through. That way they could utilize their brains for extra memory & processing power without hurting humans.

    • @Warenai
      @Warenai Před 2 lety +12

      To be fair, in Terminator 2 it is revealed that Skynet only attacked after humans panicked and tried to shut it of as a way of self defense. Sadly none of the later movies build on that detail. Maybe showing some kind of regret in hindsight by the machine that started it all, while knowing fully that after killing billions there was nothing left than to fight to the end.

    • @Kenshiro3rd
      @Kenshiro3rd Před 2 lety

      @@Warenai actually Genesys kind of did.

  • @Dothreban
    @Dothreban Před 2 lety +86

    The last time I was this early Dune was still going to premier in theaters in 2020.

    • @saeed7099
      @saeed7099 Před 2 lety +9

      Last time I was this early a bottle of henne and your mom was involved.

    • @hmg9194
      @hmg9194 Před 2 lety

      We eatin now boi!!

  • @self-transforming_machine-elf

    I implore anyone interested in exploring the Cantos to consider that it's so good, you may not be able to enjoy another sci-fi story for a long while after. Proceed with caution.

    • @countfloydschillerhorrorth2090
      @countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 Před 2 lety +13

      I had the same reaction long ago. Selling my entire library was part of a almost life ending event for me, And the 1st edition of Dune was my first great prize as a Collector and appreciator of Books. That is the one book out of the thousands, that I wish I would have kept.
      Being a big fan of Science Fiction and Horror, I knew that Sturgeons Law was even greater than 90%. But I continuously chased the High of Hyperion. Constant research finally landed me at the foot of Dune. Initially it was a great failure in my eyes as it was considered the absolute Best and I just didn't feel it was as unbelievably great as Hyperion. My thirst for Good Science Fiction eventually, due to lack of worthy candidates, led me back to rereads of Hyperion and then eventually back to Dune. Of which, with the experience not tied to comparing it as the Best and therefore better than Hyperion. I marveled at how incredible the book actually was, especially written pre-70's, in a time when I find almost all SF was Childish in so many ways that just didn't stand the test of time.
      I have read both series 5 times and awaiting the time when my mind is fresh enough to start that great reading journey once again. I feel tinges of it every time I finish a book. Shall I read this New Book that I've researched and is being touted as Great, And yet so often the Hype fails to materialize and therefore disappoints, or shall I go with the True and Golden Read of the only two books/series that I have found worthy of such lofty praise.
      I hope to read each series 3 or 4 times in the time I have left. If I could just read one book instead of always being compelled to read the rest of the series, I would have read Dune and Hyperion/Fall (as it's really one book) probably dozens of times.
      They are truly....Worthwhile.

    • @ilejovcevski79
      @ilejovcevski79 Před 2 lety +3

      It's been some 20 years since i first read it, and at the time i was already introduced to Asimov, Clarke and Herbert, so i was not new to SF. I am still to find another great work of the genre to match it. Even from the same author. Ilion and Olympos were great books, easily among the best ones, but still nowhere near Hyperion and Endymion.

    • @user-lp7tx1fe6t
      @user-lp7tx1fe6t Před 2 lety +1

      @@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 why'd you sold it?

    • @countfloydschillerhorrorth2090
      @countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 Před 2 lety +2

      @@user-lp7tx1fe6t Oh I was in a real bad place and time and my 20 year dream of owning a book/music/video store, just right when I was finally ready to start it, The market for it completely collapsed. Even video renting had been a strong business and books stores and cd stores were thriving.
      Anyway to answer your question, I said a big F U to Fate and sold them all, Damned if I was going to die without making a dime off my long term investment. I literally didn't think I'd ever get to the point of reading it again.
      Whenever the topic of SF comes up, I always bring this book up as a recommendation. Knowing it just might give the new reader a sense of Wonder and Awe as It did me. If there was 50 books I enjoyed as much, I'd retire and be a reader and read those books over and over and probably have a very contented life doing so.
      I love this the first two(one) book(s) As well as the first 4 books of Dune.

    • @Yesica1993
      @Yesica1993 Před 2 lety +3

      Oh, goodness, I had such a book hangover! This story took over my brain for weeks, maybe longer.

  • @LoneTiger
    @LoneTiger Před 2 lety +81

    _"Of course, machines can’t think “as human beings do.” A machine is different from a human being; hence, it would think differently."_
    _"The interesting question is, just because something thinks differently from you, does that mean it’s not thinking?"_
    _"We allow that humans have such divergences from one another, you like strawberries, I hate ice-skating, you cry at sad films, I’m allergic to pollen. What does it mean to have different tastes, different preferences, other than to say that our brains work differently? That we think differently from one another? And if we can say that about each another, why can’t we say the same for brains made of copper and steel?"_
    Alan Turing (The Imitation Game)

    • @rnash999
      @rnash999 Před 2 lety

      Are those real Turing quotes or from the movie dialog?

    • @LoneTiger
      @LoneTiger Před 2 lety

      @@rnash999 Yush.

  • @jordanlong8005
    @jordanlong8005 Před 2 lety +92

    Dude. I can't thank you enough for getting me into the Hyperion series. I read all 4 within a week. Came here for the Dune, stayed here for the thoughtful and in-depth content.

  • @DistantEarlyWarning
    @DistantEarlyWarning Před 2 lety +49

    I recently finished this series. Top shelf sci-fi.

    • @loganshirley1200
      @loganshirley1200 Před 2 lety

      Im partly through rise of endymion, 5:40 is right where I am, so I gotta come back to this one later.

    • @ironspaghett
      @ironspaghett Před 2 lety +1

      It's some of the best there is
      Try uh
      The commonwealth saga
      Sun diver
      Etc

    • @TheTomimt
      @TheTomimt Před 2 lety

      I particularly like the first two books. The Endymion saga I can live without.

    • @DistantEarlyWarning
      @DistantEarlyWarning Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheTomimt I liked the Endymion books because you get some clarity for questions that weren't answered in the first two books. I found them to be pretty profound.

    • @francescosmith7859
      @francescosmith7859 Před 2 lety

      @@DistantEarlyWarning me too.

  • @craigfisher3976
    @craigfisher3976 Před 2 lety +40

    After my first read of the cantos I found I couldn’t start another book for quite some time and I normally read a book a week. It really affected me deeply. Truely a masterpiece.

  • @severian1916
    @severian1916 Před 2 lety +29

    Hi Quinn, so great to see you covering The Dan Simmons Hyperion cantos.
    Just wanted to say your fan base includes not just youngsters but older fans of scifi I read Dune when I was 17, reread it recently thanks to your inspiration I'm 62, the Movie will be the high spot of the year. I reread Dan Simmons this year and I really like your essays on him. If you haven't already seen it Simmons published an article in the science journal Nature talking about the ideas behind quantum teleportation, an idea used mainly in the Illium and Olympos series. He also covers the idea that imagination plays a part in creating alternative worlds, an idea he uses in the cantos, an author literally imagining worlds into being, hence his many literary allusions. I'm sure the Catholic ritual aspect of the story especially in the ENDYMION books has not escaped your notice. Catholic theology and ritual is important for a full appreciation of the hyperion cantos, imo.
    Btw we all hate what Warner Brothers is doing to you. I just wanted to say that you've brought me great joy with your intelligent and thoughtful commentary, always great to listen to and always awesomely well informed.
    Keep doing what you do. And read the Book of the New Sun, by Gene Wolfe Id love to hear your take on that.
    From a top Quinn fan
    Thank you

    • @TywinLannister666
      @TywinLannister666 Před 2 lety +2

      Hello fellow fossil. Isnt it awesome that the fanbase has grown so huge? When we first experienced these wonderful series, we had no one to bounce our theories and ideas and love of it all off of. Now we have a literal community that exists to do JUST THAT.
      Magic.

  • @Qba86
    @Qba86 Před 2 lety +74

    The Technocore is an interesting concept. That being said, I would expect AIs that "evolved" on their own to be even more alien than that (I mean Peter Watts levels of alien). On the opposite side of the spectrum would be an AI designed to mimic the human intellect. For such an AI, there would be no reason to be particularly "cold and calculating". After all, the material that makes up a complex system doesn't affect its emergent properties as much as the interactions between its components. Carbon atoms aren't any more empathetic than silicon atoms ;)

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 Před 2 lety +3

      Evolved Nanomachines: let’s make a cat!
      Cat behavior:

    • @zzdoodzz
      @zzdoodzz Před rokem

      I have always felt that AI is the next step in human evolution. It is inevitable given the progress of technology and it's current state of being unchecked, no Asimov rules of robotics seem to be at play. It will replace us, and yet we may still be around but way far behind, similar to how chimpanzees are still around. AI will quickly evolve, replacing itself over and over and I agree with your thoughts, it will be very "alien", and not simply a reflection of human kind. There are no organic needs for AI, so no limits to space exploration/colonization. AI can take as long as it wants to spread throughout the galaxy and universe.

    • @meltedjax3619
      @meltedjax3619 Před 7 měsíci

      Who came up with your standard for empathy? Such a strange baseless thing to say in regards to ai

    • @chs_ambs8356
      @chs_ambs8356 Před 2 měsíci

      The AIs in Hyperion were always too human for me, especially Ummon. You should read Nick Bostrum's book Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, and Strategies. It's a little dated now, but he imagines that AI of the future will be totally alien to us, and I tend to agree as he lays out his argument very well.

  • @knate44
    @knate44 Před 2 lety +10

    I really like the idea that somehow AI would be like us in the sense that it too was complex, nuanced, and non-monolithic.

  • @Bannerman1903
    @Bannerman1903 Před 2 lety +93

    The Technocore are one of sci-fi's greatest villians.

    • @asimian8500
      @asimian8500 Před 2 lety +4

      But the Technocore are not a monolithic entity. They have "individuality" and comprised of different factions. Some of the factions "hate" humanity and others seek the Godhead. While some of these factions are friendly and wish to cooperate with humanity.
      Would this result in a Technocore civil war and separation into different cores? What happens if a faction merges with an alien core?

    • @Albert_C
      @Albert_C Před 2 lety +7

      @@asimian8500 Civil war did happen in the novel during the crisis.

    • @lordrisay
      @lordrisay Před 2 lety +1

      @@asimian8500 Just going to put this out there, you need to read Endymion as this story is incomplete.

    • @yourpersonaldatadealer2239
      @yourpersonaldatadealer2239 Před 2 lety

      I’d never heard of it (which is odd) but this channel has been a real find. The 3 body problem is a beaut

    • @francescosmith7859
      @francescosmith7859 Před 2 lety

      Agreed and how they initially painted the Ousters as the bad group but it was the Technocore all along. So evil!

  • @philsanders9625
    @philsanders9625 Před 2 lety +6

    Never heard of Hyperion before today. Your video is a shot of pure lore straight in the arm. I'm addicted

  • @Lou7575
    @Lou7575 Před 2 lety +5

    Your series on Hyperion has been so good that it's prompting me to read the books again.

  • @Softnutt
    @Softnutt Před 2 lety +25

    Start going into Iain M Banks please , I miss that guys books

    • @user-lp7tx1fe6t
      @user-lp7tx1fe6t Před 2 lety +1

      He said some time ago he's read those books but for some reason hasn't gone into them

    • @4_am
      @4_am Před 2 lety +3

      I miss lain M Banks.

    • @jybrokenhearted
      @jybrokenhearted Před 2 lety +2

      I miss Jack Vance

  • @horizon_universe9349
    @horizon_universe9349 Před 2 lety +8

    One of the most fascinating questions in this already fascinating book. Love your Hyperion content !

  • @tonykirk8295
    @tonykirk8295 Před 2 lety +7

    I loved all 4 books. The 3rd and 4th book were different than the first two, but I kind of just accepted it as a different epic in the same universe that wanted to utilize different themes and ideas. Probably my favorite series of all time.

  • @synchro505
    @synchro505 Před 2 lety +2

    So glad you're sharing this story, Quinn. Great video. Brings back memories of ordering actual CDs of the audiobooks back in the day. First one got me hooked then got the whole set. Must have re-listened at least 5 times to the whole set over the years. That's rare for me. If made into a movie, my hope is that it will land in capable hands.

  • @0321Dave
    @0321Dave Před 2 lety +3

    Just finished the first two books of the Cantos. Such a unique piece of literary sci fi!!! I always enjoy your videos! It’s obvious that you love these works and I couldn’t be more happy!

  • @Gotblade
    @Gotblade Před 2 lety +12

    Makes me wonder if emotion isn't essential to consciousness or sentience. The stresses that give rise to mutations that are occasionally beneficial being emotional in nature. The ultimate expression of linear time being self-awareness. The unifying theory of time matter and energy.

  • @ben-ty9jo
    @ben-ty9jo Před 2 lety +7

    I just finished the first book in the Cantos, gotta say this might be my favorite of the Hyperion/Dune/Foundation trifecta

    • @ben-ty9jo
      @ben-ty9jo Před 2 lety

      @Frank Thinnes yeah so I just finished Fall of Hyperion... actually shed a few tears at the ending. Absolutely fantastic stuff

  • @Shriike2001
    @Shriike2001 Před 2 lety

    I am seriously happy that you are showing such love for these wondrous books. :)

  • @filipstudeny
    @filipstudeny Před 2 lety +1

    This is one of my favorite channels on CZcams, I even bought Hyperion because of this channel such epic series.

  • @Skolanthropy
    @Skolanthropy Před 2 lety

    I started watching you for your GoT commentary, and stayed aboard because of your passionate appreciation of for classic scifi. I'm currently embedded in the Hyperion Cantos series because of you, and this trickle of content from you is a welcome lubricant to my imagination. Thanks.

  • @derekphelps9196
    @derekphelps9196 Před rokem +1

    Quinn, I absolutely adore your content as I am a huge fan of all the stuff you cover already. Plus, I've actually discovered new content because of this channel. Low, is a good example. Keep up the good work!!

  • @thefrienemypodcast6073

    Loving the Hyperion videos. Read the books years ago. So great to see it pop up on my feed

  • @megavide0
    @megavide0 Před 2 lety +19

    This is one of my favorite passages from Endymion:
    On Sol Draconi Septem, Father Glaucus talks to Aenea and A. Bettik about Teihard de Chardin and the Techno Core:
    >> “A monitum is a warning against uncritical acceptance of his ideas,” said Father Glaucus. “And Teilhard did not say that human beings would become God … he said that the entire conscious universe was part of a process of evolving toward the day-he called it the Omega Point-where all of creation, humanity included, would become one with the Godhead.”
    “Would Teilhard have included the TechnoCore in that evolution?” Aenea asked softly. She was hugging her knees.
    The blind priest stopped rocking and combed his fingers through his beard. “Teilhardian scholars have wrestled with that for centuries, my dear. I am no scholar, but I am certain that he would have included the Core in his optimism.”
    “But they are descended from machines,” said A. Bettik. “And their concept of an Ultimate Intelligence is quite different from Christianity’s-a cold, dispassionate mind, a predictive power able to absorb all variables.”
    Father Glaucus was nodding. “But they think, my son. Their earliest self-conscious progenitors were designed from living DNA-”
    “Designed from DNA to compute,” I said, appalled at the thought of Core machines being given the benefit of the doubt when it came to souls.
    “And what was our DNA designed to do for the first few hundred million years, my son? Eat? Kill? Procreate? Were we any less ignoble in our beginnings than the pre-Hegira silicon and DNA-based AIs? As Teilhard would have it, it is consciousness which God has created to accelerate the universe’s self-awareness as a means to understanding His will.”
    “The TechnoCore wanted to use humanity as part of its UI project,” I said, “and then to destroy us.”
    “But it did not,” said Father Glaucus.
    “No thanks to the Core,” I said.
    “Humanity has evolved-as far as it has evolved,” continued the old priest, “with no thanks to its predecessors or itself. Evolution brings human beings. Human beings, through a long and painful process, bring humanity.”
    “Empathy,” Aenea said softly.
    Father Glaucus turned his blind eyes in her direction. “Precisely, my dear. But we are not the only avatars of humanity. Once our computing machines achieved self-consciousness, they became part of this design. They may resist it. They may try to undo it for their own complex purposes. But the universe continues to weave its own design.”
    “You make the universe and its processes sound like a machine,” I said. “Programmed, unstoppable, inevitable.”
    The old man shook his head slowly. “No, no … never a machine. And never inevitable. If Christ’s coming taught us anything, it is that nothing is inevitable. The outcome is always in doubt. Decisions for light or dark are always ours to make-ours and every conscious entity’s.”
    “But Teilhard thought that consciousness and empathy would win?” said Aenea.
    Father Glaucus waved a bony hand at the bookcase behind her. “There should be a book there … on the third shelf … it had a blue bookmark in it when last I looked, thirty-some years ago. Do you see it?”
    “The Journals, Notebooks, and Correspondences of Teilhard de Chardin?” said Aenea.
    “Yes, yes. Open it to where the blue bookmark is. Do you see the passage I have annotated? It is one of the last things these old eyes saw before the darkness closed.…”
    “The entry marked twelve December, 1919?” said Aenea.
    “Yes. Read it, please.”
    Aenea held the book closer to the light of the fire.
    “ ‘Note this well,’ ” she read. “ ‘I attribute no definitive and absolute value to the various constructions of man. I believe that they will disappear, recast in a new whole that we cannot yet conceive. At the same time I admit that they have an essential provisional role-that they are necessary, inevitable phases which we (we or the race) must pass through in the course of our metamorphosis. What I love in them is not their particular form, but their function, which is to build up, in some mysterious way, first something divinizable-and then, through the grace of Christ alighting on our effort, something divine.’ “
    There was a moment of silence broken only by the soft hiss of the fuel-pellet fire and the creak and groan of the tens of millions of tons of ice above and around us. Finally Father Glaucus said, “That hope was Teilhard’s heresy in the eyes of the current Pope. Belief in that hope was my great sin. This”- he gestured to the outer wall where ice and darkness pressed against the glass-“this is my punishment.”
    None of us spoke for another moment.

  • @starfishsignal
    @starfishsignal Před 2 lety

    i love that you are talking about this! it was such an intersting concept when i read it

  • @michaellangwaller
    @michaellangwaller Před 2 lety +16

    I have always had an issue with the Farcaster technology, how could humanity not figure out how it was working. I know the TechnoCore was probably using its resources to keep it a secret, but surely some group outside of the Web could have built its own Farcaster system. Yes, I am familiar with Aenea's discovery that the system was not really needed to farcast, but surely after thousands of years someone would have thought to create a backup system just out of paranoia.

    • @bruceli9094
      @bruceli9094 Před 2 lety +8

      Think of Farcasters as proprietary technology essentially closed source.

    • @scottski02
      @scottski02 Před rokem

      Honestly, I could see the TechnoCore cracking down on any person or group who showed even the faintest hint of figuring out how the farcasters worked. It was by far the most powerful hold the TechnoCore had on humanity. Killing or disappearing anyone who showed the aptitude for cracking it would be a no-brainer for such an amoral species.

  • @guyincognito82
    @guyincognito82 Před 2 lety +2

    What's up Quinn? I just discovered your channel and am now subscribed. Great content man! It's really interesting to me. I love all the Sci-Fi stories about the cosmos. Keep up the great work!

  • @jimmystetler2572
    @jimmystetler2572 Před 2 lety

    So you have me reading the Hyperion books and I really appreciate your in depth explanations of it. BTW, you are graced with a true gift of language.

  • @seandalziel7414
    @seandalziel7414 Před 2 lety

    I'm loving all of this Hyperion content.

  • @mattforthelikes
    @mattforthelikes Před 2 lety

    I love your intro music. There is something special about it.

  • @scottlette
    @scottlette Před 2 lety

    Great content as always, Quinn.

  • @cotillion
    @cotillion Před 2 lety

    re-reading this series now :D thanks for the content!

  • @JayShootHer
    @JayShootHer Před 2 lety +6

    Sorry Quinn, I would love to watch this video but I'm on the third novel.

  • @matthewwalker5504
    @matthewwalker5504 Před 2 lety

    Darn good video man, got goosebumps and have to read those
    books now !

  • @gterrymedJR
    @gterrymedJR Před 2 lety

    I began reading the Dune series because of your Leto video. I also began reading the Hyperion series because of your Shrike video. Will probably start the foundation soon. Keep up the great work and content Quinn!

  • @Tuberiascaesar
    @Tuberiascaesar Před 2 lety +26

    You know I'm playing mass effect legendary trilogy and one thing that bugs me is that the writers themselves seem covinced that ai and organic life are destined to kill each other, even if their very own game proves that this isn't the case. Then when there are positive stories, it seems that the ai become a benevelont god capable of creating universes or almost spirit beings. Maybe an ai would just be, and be differnet.

    • @vigilstudios3010
      @vigilstudios3010 Před 2 lety +4

      The idea behind the Shrike and the Technocore seems pretty succinct and logical, that an amoral, unfeeling AI that can only learn would eventually yearn to know feelings, to know companionship, lashing out violently to inflict the most unimaginable suffering, just so it could savor the taste of but the most fleeting of emotions, a sense of connection, to know it was not alone.

    • @Tuberiascaesar
      @Tuberiascaesar Před 2 lety +1

      @@vigilstudios3010 I never read the books I'm just going on what quinn is saying.

    • @vigilstudios3010
      @vigilstudios3010 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Tuberiascaesar I suggest checking out Quinn's other videos on the Shrike, Hegemony and Time Tombs. All quality stuff and explores more about what I mentioned.

    • @Tuberiascaesar
      @Tuberiascaesar Před 2 lety

      @@vigilstudios3010 I did see those. I wish he'd do his dune chapterhouse video and a video on what he thinks frank herbert had planned.

    • @JDR0110
      @JDR0110 Před 2 lety

      Neal Asher's "Polity" novels have an interesting take on the AI human relationship; just read the Dark Intelligence trilogy and am planning to read more novels earlier in the timeline. Check it out.

  • @andrewdaniels2131
    @andrewdaniels2131 Před 2 lety

    Excellent wrap, thank you very much! 😎👍

  • @Bloborus
    @Bloborus Před 2 lety

    On my 2nd readthru and loving these videos!

  • @frozunyogert6159
    @frozunyogert6159 Před rokem +1

    An Hyperion adaptation should be an animated series. To be live-action, it would have to be VERY high budget to truly capture the scope of the Hegemony universe.

  • @IRosamelia
    @IRosamelia Před rokem

    My dude, I LOVE your videos! Cheers!

  • @jeffgrey2746
    @jeffgrey2746 Před 2 lety

    Quinn, I just wanted to say that I love your channel and I think you do a great job.

  • @thesinfultictac5704
    @thesinfultictac5704 Před 2 lety

    I gotta say the clips you found are just *chefs kiss"

  • @brentbonham9427
    @brentbonham9427 Před rokem

    Really enjoy your channel man. Please keep making great content.

  • @LiquidAwesomePersonified

    love your videos mate - top of the line content.

  • @acuteoctogon9303
    @acuteoctogon9303 Před 2 lety

    Amazing video! Hope you have a good day Quinn!

  • @starclone4
    @starclone4 Před 2 lety

    Very cool Quinn !!!!

  • @chellybub
    @chellybub Před 2 lety

    Awesome video! 💜

  • @jonahmiller7
    @jonahmiller7 Před 2 lety

    I just started reading the first book. I'm already hooked.

  • @mott9993
    @mott9993 Před 2 lety

    BRAND NEW?? BRO!! YES!! YOU RULE!!

  • @citizensguard3433
    @citizensguard3433 Před 2 lety

    Yes!! These are my favorite videos of yours! Not much into Dune tbh, but these Hyperion videos made me buy the books!!

  • @rutleyj
    @rutleyj Před 2 lety

    Keep these great videos coming

  • @adamnixon2886
    @adamnixon2886 Před 2 lety

    Your videos are so good!!!
    Just subbed*

  • @1jotun136
    @1jotun136 Před 2 lety +4

    Man, you should voice books on tape or start your own ASMR channel. I'd gladly listen to you.

  • @Cocamo1337
    @Cocamo1337 Před 2 lety

    Hey Quinn I just gotta hand it to you man, I don't know if it's the music, the cadence of your speech, or the tone of your voice, but you just have a way of making shit feel really epic.

  • @cotillion
    @cotillion Před 2 lety +2

    Can you do some reviews of the Culture series by Iian M. Banks? I really enjoyed them, r.i.p.

  • @alexandrakrausch7158
    @alexandrakrausch7158 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much for your videos. I found your channel today and I love it. Although I am German I understand your explanations very well. And I am so Glas that you speak about Dan Simmons and Lovecraft. Greetings from Germany 😊

  • @julioamayajr3919
    @julioamayajr3919 Před 2 lety

    Great video - excellent discourse and needs to be examined as AI grows in our society

  • @millowulf6352
    @millowulf6352 Před 2 lety

    Love your videos!!

  • @tuumef1799
    @tuumef1799 Před 2 lety

    Awesome. I feel inspired to buy the second book!

  • @johnink2quill776
    @johnink2quill776 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for another great video. 😀

  • @mdimascio
    @mdimascio Před 2 lety +1

    I am currently listening to the excellent audiobooks for the 5th time :)

  • @thebushwacker
    @thebushwacker Před 2 lety

    Please keep doing videos on the cantos I'm on the last book and I wish I would have discovered it sooner. It was buy your videos I started reading it and I love it

  • @richardharris6392
    @richardharris6392 Před 2 lety +2

    Loved the video! Glad ur spreading the hyperion love. One thing though. At the end u made it sound like only the volatile elements of the core were using human brains to live. But wasn't that how the whole core was able to run? They used human brain cells that were using farcasters to function and when Gladstone destroyed the farcaster net, it essentially destroyed most the core. Could be wrong though, it's been a long time since I read the books

  • @jeremysrobey4384
    @jeremysrobey4384 Před rokem

    Great job

  • @theprogressingdrummer1631

    I’ve never subscribed to a channel so fast.

  • @saeed7099
    @saeed7099 Před 2 lety

    Who hooo new vid

  • @Hochspitz
    @Hochspitz Před 2 lety

    Sigh...there are so many books to read! Beautifully presented!

  • @kadenabet
    @kadenabet Před 2 lety

    Good episode.

  • @kernowpolski
    @kernowpolski Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent Quinn - really great work. I am a big fan of the Hyperion Cantos. The Technorecore is a powerful and mysterious element that you have examined really well.
    How about a comment on the spiritual religious elements and the focus on the philosophy of the Catholic Anthropologist Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, whose book The Phenomenon of Man attempted to merge evolution with Catholic theology via an evolutionary process expressed as Lithosphere (the physical world), Biosphere (the world with life) and Noosphere (the world with consciousness) towards an Omega Point which is God and therefore able to back-project itself to start creation. His philosophy is the key component for good in the series.
    The Phenomenon of Man was one of my Father's (a World Ward 2 bomber veteran) favourite books and even got a mention from the American Bishop at Harry and Meghan's wedding - the most interesting and relevant part of the whole event!
    I thoroughly recommend de Chardin's work.
    Thanks again
    Stephen

  • @ThePurityControl
    @ThePurityControl Před 2 lety

    I just got into reading this after seeing stuff about it on your channel, so thanks.

  • @bigbrother6505
    @bigbrother6505 Před 2 lety

    I love this book series so much 🤩

  • @morganSnow421
    @morganSnow421 Před 2 lety

    This video was all kinds of amazing. And also where do you get that awesome music that you add in your videos?

  • @jamesfoster8806
    @jamesfoster8806 Před 2 lety

    this channel is awesome

  • @husshodi
    @husshodi Před 2 lety

    My guy 💪🏿

  • @connorleak5246
    @connorleak5246 Před 2 lety

    Quinn. My man. Thank you.

  • @bruceli9094
    @bruceli9094 Před 2 lety +1

    1991: You won the internet.
    2030: You won the All Thing.

  • @rifleman1122
    @rifleman1122 Před 2 lety

    I started the series after seeing the cruciform video and now I'm 2/3rds of the way through book 4. Easily one of the best sci-fi series I've ever read

  • @femmedracula6857
    @femmedracula6857 Před 2 lety +1

    I recall reading about Thomas Ray's Tierra experiment back in the 90s.

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Před 2 lety

    The Techno Core & the UI are a great villian for the series. When I first read the series it was an interesting heel turn.

  • @nycrackhead
    @nycrackhead Před 2 lety

    i like your new intro

  • @Bruva.Ork.
    @Bruva.Ork. Před 9 měsíci

    Bless you with what ever gods will you see fit. Im writing my own novel and your video are pure gold

  • @julianraiders1112
    @julianraiders1112 Před 2 lety

    TY for doing Hyperion Quinn!!! i loved the series.. curious if you have ever read Burn Zone or Fall Out by James K Decker?

  • @trentlivingstone7399
    @trentlivingstone7399 Před 2 lety

    hopefully , this will be
    a series someday

  • @chuckcrizer
    @chuckcrizer Před 2 lety +5

    To me, the background music means "Dune". Seems strange when used for Hyperion.

  • @rawfulchowdhury5234
    @rawfulchowdhury5234 Před rokem

    nice video

  • @eric8841
    @eric8841 Před 2 lety

    You’re the best.

  • @seanconant3218
    @seanconant3218 Před 2 lety

    More Hyperion please!

  • @justcommenting4981
    @justcommenting4981 Před 2 lety

    Opening riff is pretty sick

  • @hawkticus_history_corner
    @hawkticus_history_corner Před 2 lety +2

    Remember everyone, like AFTER you watch because it pleases the algorithm the most

  • @bikingdervish
    @bikingdervish Před rokem

    MORE HYPERION PLEASE!!!!!!

  • @DTSephiroth
    @DTSephiroth Před 2 lety +1

    This made me think about the war with The Men of Iron in the Warhanmer 40,000 Universe. It can be argued that the AI that initiated the conflict and attempted to eradicate man wasn't evil at all. AI in 40k comes to the realization that Chaos exists, and reasons the only way to destroy Chaos is to remove its food souce... sentient life.

  • @jeffreyatlee8785
    @jeffreyatlee8785 Před 2 lety

    You sir are a genius.

  • @Ki_Adi_Mundi
    @Ki_Adi_Mundi Před 2 lety +4

    4:36 The moment when you realize Mass Effect was influenced by Hyperion...

  • @claudeyaz
    @claudeyaz Před 2 lety +2

    What do ya do for a living bud? Your analysis and voice is so nice to listen to. It isn't like most narrative/radio voices...but is unique and great to listen to.
    Have you done a video, or livestream, about yourself yet? I am curious about your childhood...and about how you got into fiction, and your other hobbies?
    Just sorta interested...Keep up the great work! Do not worry about/chase after views...The CZcams algorithms are irrational...So just keep making the content you like to make! "IF YOU BUILD IT..THEY WILL COME!....eventually." :D
    Take care of yourself !!

    • @severian1916
      @severian1916 Před 2 lety

      Quinn is the best literary commentator, and I agree, such a mellow voice I could listen for hours.

  • @sinecron6684
    @sinecron6684 Před rokem

    Such a criminally overlooked series it's easily up there with Dune and Star Wars

  • @kebman
    @kebman Před 2 lety +8

    All bow to the AI god masquerading as the CZcams algorithm.