Should You Take Glucosamine For Arthritis
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- The surgeons discuss glucosamine and its use in the treatment of osteoarthritis. They review the literature and determine that there is insufficient evidence to conclude that glucosamine helps the symptoms of osteoarthritis. There is no evidence to support its use in reversing the natural history of osteoarthritis.
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I took Glucosamine with Condroitin for 5 years then stopped it. As 4 months past by, I could feel arthritic pain, so I started back on it and all is fine once again ❤
What brand do you take?
@@Coolwater83 what ever is on sale at the pharmacy
Exactly, these guys are a couple of bone heads and probably paid (bribed) by Big Pharma. Your PAIN is just a big joke to them. Don't listen to them. Listen to what your body tells you. By the way, it works for me too. God Bless.
@@Coolwater83 I take Doctors Best and Even Now is great too
Supposedly, if the joint still has cartilage the glucosamine will help rebuild it. But if all the cartilage has warn off, then it has nothing to stick to and, therefore will not help rebuild the cartilage. I am 78 years old and have been taking it for 25+ years and have absolutely no joint pains anywhere. I used to weigh 270 pounds and slowly lost 120 over the last 20 years. I don’t care what anyone thinks, I’m a believer in the power of glucosamine.🤸🏼
Glad to hear that Michele. It does work for some but it definitely does not rebuild your cartilage. Nothing does that at this point. All the best. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Me too, I'm 78 been taking it since a scan revealed severe damage age 50 that needed knee replacement? This couldn't be done as I were too young. I were recommended Glucosamine, the pain went within weeks and has never come back. I regularly run up stairs, even the eight floors of my regular holiday hotel. Best placebo ever. Funny how pet owners swear by it, they just tell the pets it works and they believe them. Bless.
@FakeCheese Again
Sorry, guess I did not make myself clear. I never had joint pain. I took the glucosamine for the past 25+ years because I wanted to PRESERVE the quality of my cartilage. And, I did. No joint aches and pains at 78!🤗 (Still taking 🍀)
@@michelenichele294 The Fact that you lost 120 lbs probably helped too. Weight is hard on the joints.
@@riseharris5204
You’re right. Just an old lady 👵 trying to take good care of herself, including I/F, and my rowing 🚣🏻♀️ machine. The joints get a real workout on the machine, let me tell you. But not a one ☝️ of them ever aches, so I’m going to keep on taking my g/c 🤸🏼💁🏼♀️😃
I'm 73 and have used it over 20 years and find it works really well for my knees.
Nice
We have been giving it to our older (and rescue) horses for over 25 years. I don't think the horses understand the placebo effect but it definitely helps. I have taken it myself for knee joint pain for 10+ years and yes, it does help.
What brand?
@@user-nt9rj8sz4m I can only speak personally but any brand with glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM seems to work well.
I agree; my 30 year old horse couldn't get up and the vet said she had arthritis in her hind legs but,, as she was eating well, if we got her up to regularly give her glucosamine and chondroitin.
She got up and after getting a few weeks of glucosamine she was able to get up and down again and lived to 33 years old!
WE HAD 2 dogs that were skipping/limping and 3 legging. Two doctors recommended surgery.We heard about Osteo Biflex (same active ingredients). Both were 'healed'. !!!
@@user-nt9rj8sz4m GCS-Max
Works for me. I'm 74. I have lived in houses with stairs for most of my life and 20 years ago I noticed that every time I went to the second floor there was a clicking sensation in my knees. I went to my doctor and she said, "It's osteoarthritis." She recommended glucosamine. She said that it doesn't work for everyone but seemed to help the majority of people that take it. Her guess was - 70%. After about ten weeks of daily use the clicking went away. Ten years later I grew complacent and took it on a completely hit or miss basis (mostly miss) and the same clicking returned. I returned to daily dosage and the clicking went away and has never returned. That's a total of 20 years of personal experience. I had severe pain (no clicking) about three years ago and was given two steroid shots that helped. I feared at the time that I might have to get a cane. However, I adopted a five times a week regimen of riding my bike eight miles and swimming a mile. The severe pain downgraded after a couple of months to mild, occasional pain. I don't take any pain medication because of the downsides to NSAIDs. I occasionally make a cup of turmeric tea and have found that helps as an anti-inflammatory. I also went keto and lost about 20 pounds about a year ago. That helped even more. Glucosamine chondroitin has helped me and... given the sequence of events, I would doubt that that's a placebo effect. I think that these docs should be more careful concerning their advice. It's a bit cavalier. Some people short circuit the process by getting shots or using NSAIDs but you can only do that for so long before you pay the price in joint health. The best approach? Diet, exercise, avoiding injuries, and some supplements such as glucosamine chondroitin.
Agree. Glad it helps you. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@@TalkingWithDocs Which bits do you agree with?
good on you for taking action mate!
I definitely agree about explanation based on comment... Glucosamine sulfate will works properly without our body fermentation Processing. Good luck.
Your mind is powerful and creates…the placebo effect!
I have been taking glucosamine after a meniscectomy 25 years ago and wasn't sure that it actually worked. Then I accidentally bought capsules that were half the dose. After a few weeks, I noticed that I was having knee pain, so I checked the bottle of glucosamine and found that I was not getting as much. I doubled my dosage but made no other changes, and the pain went away. I understand that science has not been able to prove that it works, but it seems to work for me.
Hi Margaret. We think everyone responds differently to medications and supplements so for a small percentage it may work really well. Nice for you! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Thank you for your comment Margaret. I have had arthritis for many years that doctors have been treating. One day I asked my doctor about glucosamine. He said is works for about 50% of the people who take it and told me to try it. I did and it has helped a lot. It is nice to hear it helps others.
@@Leon-qc7fe yep heard from friend who suffers from osteoarthritis and he said same thing . he's known it worked for family members but didn't for him .. Yeah over the course of several years maybe about ten years knee pain comes and goes after weeks sometimes months . started taking Walgreens brand Glucosamine Chondroitin pills and seems like a good remedy . Just this morning one of the best mornings in a long time waking up very lil pain discomfort . Been taking it just over a week . Seems to work but might be pain stiffness is over the phase . Like I said , it'd start up in weeks long or sometimes months long phases and then go away . But will keep on taking it . But being diabetic need to see if It raises blood sugar or not
@@Leon-qc7fe hello leon,i just got diagnosed with Arthritis @25 years old and doctors recommended glucosamine, how much time did it take for you to feel the effects?
@@rolandgerges9246 Right away. But I have RA and OA in several joints. It did not help the RA.
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Our Rottweiler was suffering from arthritis in the lower spine, typical for a dog of his age. The Vet had us try glucosamine and in thirty days, it was like he was a brand new seemingly younger dog. The Vet said it was hit or miss with no bad side effects for her patients. Or it might have been a placebo effect. Willi was a very smart dog who listened well.
I’ve been using it for years. The slight irritation of my finger joints has gone away. I’d say there’s a possible placebo effect but there are no discernible side effects. The cosamine brand sold by Costco was, at the time, the only veterinary brand produced to usda standards, same as for human consumption.
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Might try for my pooch (11) who's having trouble with her spine.
Placebo effect on a dog? Hilarious! ...I am not saying your dog can't be that smart, but anyway it was the funniest thing I heard in weeks.
My cat (14) was moving around so slowly, it was clear her joints were causing her great discomfort. I started giving her a squirt of glucosamine gel every day and after about a month it was noticeable that her movement was much easier. I very much doubt she has read the label or is susceptible to the placebo effect. She just thinks it's a little daily treat.
@nick066hu I was thinking the same. Amazing that the dog knew and understood the fact that it was taking a pill and what that pill was for. Get your dog into college I say.
I am 75 and taking for last 12 years and it works for me very well 👍
I had osteoarthritis in both hands to the point that I could no longer type. Started taking glucosamine sulphate and found mild improvement after one week , significant after two weeks and only mild stiffness by the end of the month. Works for me in conjunction with omega 3 supplements.
Which brand?
I use Webber Naturals but I don't suspect anything is special about that particular brand@@user-nt9rj8sz4m
Good to read in your description that you indicated it for the treatment of osteoarthritis. So many presenters just say “arthritis” when there are many different types of arthritis. How much money have I wasted “trying” various OTC, homeopathic remedies only to find out they are for a different type of arthritis, usually osteoarthritis. I have RA. Please continue this.
I’ve been taking glucosamine since getting my knee scoped over 10 years ago. Several years ago I switched to glucosamine sulfate with chondroitin. I dont take it every day, but rather a few days at a time after feeling some knee pain return. The beneficial effect of taking it is always felt within a couple of hours. There is zero doubt in my mind that it works for me. If it were solely a placebo effect, as I am an avid fast walker, Id expect my mild arthritis in my knee to have progressed over the years. But it has not.
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how was ,your knee pain when using glucosamine hydrochloride ? only been taking it for just over a week the hydrocloride form and seems to feel much better . Best morning today in months . But after only first day seemed to make a diference YAY
@@frankmontez6853 Congratulations! The sulfate version absolutely works for me...every time. All pain disappears within hours. It's not like a pain reliever, it clearly improves joint lubricity for much a longer period than any pain reliever acts. You might benefit from trying the sulfate variety. A friend of mine is a biochemist for Big Pharma. He said he looked into this but could not find a chemical pathway to explain why people say it works. I just tell him he needs to look deeper. Keep taking it...I suspect it's good for all your joints and connective tissue. Even the HCL worked in the beginning after a few weeks, but good reports were sporadic in the literature. I read somewhere this was due to some people taking HCL and others sulfate and that the sulfate reports were more consistently good. So I switched to sulfate. Over in Asia lots of folks eat chicken feet, which I believe is for the same reason. I'd rather pop a few horse pills. When I'm taking it, I typically pop 3 at a time once a day.
They are too nice to say it, but that isn't how these pills work. Glucosamine will 100% not make you feel better within a couple of hours.
@@Swearengen1980 My own years of experience say otherwise. One of my friends is a biochemist for Big Pharma. He says he studied glucosamine and could not find a pathway by which it works. Clearly he's missed something.
I have had three dogs and all of the them improved after taking it so I am a total believer!
I've been talking glucosamine chondroitin for years for knee pain. When I stop taking it, the knee discomfort comes back. It works for me.
I had bursitis in my hip many years ago (approx 20). I went to the doctor as I could hardly walk from the pain. He took an X-ray and gave the diagnosis also adding I had the beginnings of arthritis in the hip joint. He recommended glucosamine and chondroiton. I started taking the supplement and it helped tremendously. I haven’t had any problems since.
How can you dismiss it when you say no proper study has been done? Perhaps big pharma are reluctant to fund a study as there is no financial gain for them? They make more from pain killers that clearly are not good for long term use. I would not hesitate to recommend it. Also using vitamin D3 with vitamin K2 recently which has got proven benefits.
My brother took it for at least a decade and a half, no improvement, he has to walk with a frame now...that's my 2 cents, everyone is different I know too...great informational videos, I learn more from these guys than my regular doctor....!
Sorry about your brother sherp2u1. Thank you so much for your kind words! And your support
For me, glucosamine was a miracle. I am normally skeptical of the benefits of many supplements. I started a job delivering meat in my 50's. I would jump off the back of the truck, trying to give the impression I was young again. After a few months, my hand and knee joints were extremely stiff and painful in the morning when I woke up. I started taking glucosamine and it brought immediate relief. Because I had worked these joints for only a few months, maybe it would be different for say a carpet layer or bricklayer, who may have done it all their lives. I kept taking them, even after leaving the job after 10 months.
After three years I changed brands and it seemed to produce blood thinning and low blood pressure, so I ceased taking the glucosamine. Amazingly, I felt as good as I did prior to doing the job.
I am 40 years old. I got lower back pains that started Dec. 2023. I take glucosamine from a freebies to supplements I am taking. It is just free, so I took it. I am happy because my lower back pains are fading after two weeks of taking glucosamine. I WILL DEFINITELY BUY NEW after this bottle😊
I always believe the literature on humans; however my 10 year-old Airedale suffered with hip dysplasia and could not get off a chair without crying in pain. My Veterinarian (a great doctor)suggested Glucosamine Ch. it worked for her with no visible pain. I took her off briefly and pain came back- put her right back on. She lived 5 more years comfortably with no other meds. I highly recommend the Kirkland brand. Many thanks doctors, a terrific channel. I hope others get the same results I did.
Yes we have heard this
I started taking glucosamine in my late 30s. Taking it consistently since then, but there was a period about four years ago where I went off all supplements, including glucosamine. And within a year I was planning on my first knee replacement. My knees were diagnosed with arthritis when I was 24 and told then that I had knees of a 64 year old. A couple days ago my doctor said my knees look like those of an 80 year old and I’m 62. The point of the story is when I went back on glucosamine after a year the pain I had developed during the year went away, and I stopped planning for a knee replacement. So I think glucosamine does work I’m an active person, so may be a lot of people who take it aren’t active. Recently I started again the process to get a knee replacement but then I went on WeightWatchers and after losing 15 pounds I’m no longer planning on a replacement this year because the pain reduced.
An orthopedic surgeon had told me that I have a torn meniscus based on a MRI. He wanted to do surgery on my knee. I told him no because a torn meniscus doesn't necessarily mean that's where the pain is coming from. These doctors are not checking to see if there might be an underlining cause that's causing the pain, like osteoarthritis. I avoided surgery and started taking glucosamine and I don't have any more pain. Moral of the story. Don't believe what some of these doctors tell you. Some of them probably just want to discourage you so you can allow them to do surgery on you, this way they can bill the insurance company and make money to give to their wives. So what if glucosamine doesn't work. It doesn't cost that much money for one bottle. If it doesn't work you know not to purchase it anymore.
except that a torn meniscus will most definitely cause serious complications with your knee later down the road. You shouldn't avoid surgery if you need it. Doctors aren't trying to trick you into having unnecessary procedures
I took it for a long time and it didnt help so I stopped taking it. I had my left knee replaced in August this year and its wonderful not to have that pain all the time and I'm going to have my right knee done in December and am looking forward to having it done. The pain was the worst but it's worth it to have the great results I have now and i
love your videos and how you are so good at explaining things in a cute fun way so please never change and stay safe. Hugs 🤗🤗❤❤
Thank you so much Maria. So glad we could help in any small way and so happy for you that you have done so well. All the best in December! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
heard good things about the new therapy treatment of stem cell injections from friends . Using your own cells from another part of your body and injecting into the painful one . I'm not ready to do that need to wait and see if this lasts fpor a very long time . teh whole verry drastically invasive knee replacement is something I just don't like at all . Right now , will keep using glucosamine chodroitin pills that really seems to,help a lot . Had osteoarthritis for years
My wife had her right knee replaced about a year ago and she is very happy with the results. Checked in the hospital at 5:30 AM and were home by 11:00 AM. The next day she began physical therapy....
@@frankmontez6853 the problem with stem cell therapy is the cost. most people cannot afford it
My dog had arthritis and she use to grone every time she got up and i gave her glucosamine and after about one week the groning stopped and she felt better glucosamine works.
I tried GC and did not see any improvement in my shoulder pain; in fact it got progressively worse. What ultimately worked to eliminate the pain and restore full range of motion was 6 weeks of physical therapy. On the rare occasion that my shoulder starts to get stiff or achy, I just do the exercises the PT taught me 😊
BTW, y'all are great. I truly appreciate your evidence-based approach to medicine.
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What was the issue causing you pain in your shoulder?
@@supernova1976 I had no recollection of any event causing my shoulder pain. I had what was eventually identified as "impingement syndrome". I didn't seek treatment immediately 🤦♀, and tried a variety of OTC treatments over several weeks, and being careful when using it. It got progressively worse, to the point where I couldn't raise my arm to blow dry my hair. Range of movement was restore rather quickly.
@@stephaniehyatt309 This explains why the GC didn't help. The issue you had was not a joint issue , it was a tendon issue tendon (band of tissue) inside your shoulder rubs or catches on nearby tissue and bone as you lift your arm. GC only helps with joint arthritis issues .
@@stephaniehyatt309what was the excercises if you don't mind me prying , dealing with some rough shoulder stuff myself atm
Getting off carbs and sugar will work wonders for getting rid of arthritis. Worked for me.
Hi Don. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Me too ..although a lot of the damage is already done. I’m healing, and I don’t hurt as much anymore. ( ketovore )
OMG !
I love you guys. Two cool doctors talking about science and facts rather than following money from companies.
Thank you so much
Yes doing our best. And working hard not to sell out. Just educating our viewers
I take the recommended dose twice a day, and I have for years. While I'm not concerned about the cost (about $50 to $60 a year), I did wonder if it was working for me. So, I stopped using it for a month. My joint pain increased very noticeably. I returned use with the same daily dose, and within a couple of weeks the pain relief returned. Couldn't tell you if it was a placebo effect, but I really doubt it. While my "experiment" was not "scientific", and would be considered anecdotal, I'm satisfied that this supplement is working for me. Glad I found you guys. I'm now a subscriber. 😊
Hey william. Sounds like it works for you! Thanks for watching and subscribing
I have had 5 Surgeries on my left knee. ACL Reconstruction and a Shattered Patella. I tried Glucosamine several times and found it made my knee less stable and “sloppy”. Happy to say I’m getting scheduled for a TKR. Your videos have been very helpfully getting me prepared for my new knee. Thank You both.
Very welcome Dale. Best of luck with your TKR. THanks for watching and subscribing if you did
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How are your knees doing now?
@@Keep-on-ok my knees are doing well. I had a total replacement on my left knee 2 years ago and it’s doing great. I exercise regularly, walking 3.5-4 miles every other day and aerobic/weight work out the other 3 days. Sundays off. It’s hard to keep on a schedule at 66y but I do my best. Just spent 4-1/2 days at Disneyland and walked a total of 50 miles.
@@D-P81 I’m so happy for you! Keep enjoying life! Glad the knee surgery was a success.
It's the response I predicted prior to watching, having taken it for a year I've found it's worked incredibly well, unlike the pain medication I was given which ruined my digestive health. Each to their own, but for me, it worked.
Glad to hear it. We have many patients who swear by it and others who say it didn’t work. We are all made very differently. Thanks for watching and subscribing
It works for me I have been on it for over 20 years. Six months after starting taking it my knees stopped making a popping & cracking noise. And are still smooth today at age 73.
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How much and what strength should one take per day please? Thanks
James, what is the daily dosage that you take?
@jamessams8242 Hello, I would like to consult you on this issue. Is it possible to write your Instagram account?
You guys are the best! Thanks, we appreciate the openness and the candor. My dad in gone but at least I have you guys now
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I had a hip replacement in 2005 because I had erosion in the hip socket and no cartilage left. The hip joint installed was built metal on metal without the plastic liner between the ball and socket. It has a recall on it but the surgeon recommended at 4 weeks post op to start taking Glucosamine Chondroitin to increase natural lubrication. I was walking over a mile a day on it by that time. I have never had any heavy metals found from the joint erosion which was the cause for the recall. In 2013 I had the other hip replaced due to arthritis and erosion. I was told by that surgeon to stop taking glucosamine 2 weeks prior to surgery but did not give me a reason. Five days after stopping it, I started feeling a stiffness or delay in the movement of the first implant and the hip due for replacement started locking up and throwing me to the floor. By the surgery date, neither hip worked without severe pain so I was using a walker to go into the hospital. Two days post op I was home and taking glucosamine again. I have run out a few times, forgetting to buy more and only the pain and stiffness returning within 4 to 5 days, reminded me to buy more. For me it works. 1500 units once a day....every day.
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Interesting comments Docs. Really love the rapport between you two, makes for great videos
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You both are so talented in explaining this thoroughly while making it funny. Kept chuckling!
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I took it years ago for my knees and honestly did not notice a difference. Just had a partial knee replacement this year and that….worked. 👍
Yes that does work Mary Ann. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
I need to lookup a partial knee replacement. Had my cortisone shots today.
I read about a new knee brace that is very effective in eliminating surgery. Any thoughts ?
@@joanboughton9529 cortisone depletes cartilage.
I don't remember what the diagnosis was for chronic pain in my shoulders, but I was getting periodic cortisone shots. I started taking glucosamine and condroitin about 2 decades ago on my own and no longer had any pain. It has not prevented the need for a total hip replacement coming soon. I enjoy your discussions. Thanks.
Thanks Chuck. Good luck with your THR. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Thank you Doc B and Doc Z. Yes, I have taken it. And it was actually recommended by a rheumatologist I had seen in the past. No, I did not see any improvement whatsoever. I did however take the entire bottle so I could report my improvement or not based on not just taking a weeks worth. So, in saying that I did try it on my aging dogs as they sure needed some relief too. No improvement with them either. I put them on CBD oil and see a result that is favourable. I still suffer and due to kidney disease and allergies to nsaids, I have taken lots of different medications. What I’m waiting for is my tkr in 2022. We are in charge of our own health and I’m glad to hear it being said at the end of your videos.
Hi sherry. Thanks for sharing and good luck in 2022! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
I am 26 and was hit by a drunk driver causing my knee to go into the dash (6’3 btw) resulting in a partially torn meniscus and a piece of cartilage that broke off and stayed in there. I am young and did not want surgery and was advised against it but couldn’t afford stem cell treatment. The injury obviously caused a lot of pain, For over a year afterwards and my knee popped and crunched really bad and made nasty sounds. Prolo therapy helped a little but not much, I was told to go on Cosamin for a couple months and I was shocked by the results the crunching went way down and the pain went away even when I went off of it. I will need surgery eventually or to get stem cells but for now if it starts hurting again (usually a little on really cold days) I go on Cosamin for a couple weeks and it won’t bother me for a long time. I love the stuff and know it works, Actually my MRI confirmed it and showed it helped heal a lot in my knee to the shock of my doctor who asked “what did you take this is insane healing for no surgery and there still being broken cartridge in there?” When I said cosamin she laughed and said “I’ve been skeptical but maybe there is something to it”
Interesting
My 9 year old Akita (dog) had really bad arthritis and this is the only thing that helped. She lived another 4 years and was able to take nice enjoyable walks each and every day. As for myself, glucosamine did not help one bit.
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We ❤️ Akita’s. They are wonderful dogs. Thank you for sharing. We’ll start giving it ours.
I've seen the same thing with my older dogs and cats; but it hasn't worked for me either. I'm so glad that you had more quality time with your furr-baby!
Must be placebo. Joking!!! Lol 🐕❤
Sounds just like my mom’s dog
For me it's been a savior for arthritic type pain in my hand. The science overall may not be there but to each their own, whatever works for you.
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my aunt has take it for over 90 days it improved her knee pain and she felt so much better
I were told after an investigative scan to find the cause of severe pain in my knees that I had severe damage to the joints and both needed replacing. I were told that at age 50 I were too young to have the ops. A relative suggested Glucosamine, I have been taking it for the last 28 years. The pain stopped after a few weeks and I have had no pain since and regularly run up stairs. Some placebo eh?
Wow Phillip that is amazing! Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
It greatly reduced my inflammation and allowed me to continue playing tennis on hard courts! Worked for me...!
It sure helps my knees, no question, I’ve tried it of and on for a while and it’s a big difference.
I've taken glucosamine on and off for many years. What I've noticed is when I stop taking it my hand pain comes back. As soon as I start taking it again, the pain slowly subsides. It doesn't help back pain though. I've read that many find this true as well.
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I buy this for my mum, she took it for almost 20 years now, she says it helps, hasn't felt knee pain since.
Fair enough
I started out taking glucosamine with chondroitin and it noticed a big difference in a low pain level in my knees..then I switched over to glucosamine with chondroitin sulfate and taking 1,000 mg of vitamin C before I took my pills..the vitamin C is to absorb more of my chondroitin sulfate into my body..in a very short time after doing this about a week I noticed that I had even less pain throughout my body..all of my joints felt vantastic I was able to move without alot of pain that made a big difference..I suffer with chronic pain and have so far over 22 years... I take my vitamins at night this way while I sleep there in my system longer .hopefully absorb more of them into my joints this has turned out to be a positive result for me..by lowering the amount of pain I feel gives me a more quality of life..
Glad it helps lynn. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for watching and subscribing
If you want to feel better.. check your vitamin D3 levels.. make sure to take K2 with the D3. You’ll feel better.
My understanding is that it does not grow new cartilage. However it supports what is in place and hinders further loss of cartilage.
Yes that is the thought. There just isn’t any reliable evidence to support that. Having said that some people get benefit from it. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Works for me. My arthritis pain in both of my knees started in 2017 and got a lot worse the last few years, so much so I started walking with a cane. I started taking Berberine in July 2023 not expecting to feel any results. Seven days after starting it I woke up feeling like I had new knees ! Told everyone I could about this miracle. I think it helped with inflammation. Took 1200MG a day. Pain decreased by about 70 percent. After that success I started searching for more and heard about Glucosamine. Again I didn't expect to feel any results but after two weeks my pain decreased drastically. I am taking Vivanaturals Joint Support. I am SO GLAD I did not see your video before taking Glucosamine, I might not have tried it. Placebo effect, possibly but I really don't care. I have tried other medications with no results. I only wish I had known about Berberine and Glucosamine years ago. Be careful about saying it doesn't work. I don't think it would be selling as well as it is on just a placebo effect. Aspirin wasn't helping my pain as much as Glucosamine and Berberine.
I’m 28 years old, and had a partial plica removal and some stage 3 osteoarthritis (about a 10mm pothole in the lower cartilage) repaired in my left knee in December, and my right knee is not much better off. I’ve done a large amount of mountain biking and very aggressive skiing to lead to this so young. As a professional drummer, I also get some joint discomfort in my hands. Thinking about trying this out to help mainly with knee discomfort. Figure it can’t hurt anything and may as well try it
Worth a try. The evidence is weak but the downside is really only financial
I have not taken glucosamine ever but I have given it to my elderly dogs and both have seen significant benefits from it ( the supplement for dogs not people).
I have a young Cane Corso (Italian Mastiff) and supplement her with glucosamine/MSM/Chondroitin daily. Seems to have helped significantly with puppyhood joint stress. Loading doses when she has a limp from doing too much.
This seems to be true Lisa. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Nice Mom2Boys.
I've been taking it since 2008. It has done wonders for my lower back arthritis. A bunch of us seniors discussed it a few years ago. The verdict was: 1/3 think it helps a great deal; 1/3 "somewhat"; 1/3 "not at all". I was warned not to expect results until about two weeks had gone by. That was good advice. An ortho doc recommended purchasing only brands I was familiar with. The product is apparently not regulated, and some brands on the market may contain impurities.
Well, a friend got me a bottle of Chondroitin/Glucosamine @ 10 yrs ago as I was having hip and lower back pain enough to slow me down. I am 73 y. probably;ly from ranching injuries back in the day. I dont do it every day but when the pain gets a little annoying I take 2400mg ea day. I must say the pain is gone for awhile and I keep doing it for a couple more days. I quit Ibuprophine causes liver damage You Drs are great.. P/O
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I am from India. I took Glucosamine HCl in 2005 for 2 months. The pain was gone and I had no pain for a long time. The next time my joint pain returned was in 2013. Again took Glucosamine HCl for 2 months and stopped. The pain never returned to date. My present weight is 266 Pound (121 Kg).
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Thank you for setting the record straight.
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Thank you for providing an overview of the science on such products. There is so much hype and misinformation today that it's very difficult for most to know how to realistically deal with health issues. Skepticism is sorely lacking amongst most consumers.
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I have used glucosamine for the last 17 years. It takes a few weeks to work on joint. I have stopped taking it a few times and that's when I have pain. For me it works for joint pain. I am waiting for a knee replacement at this time so it does not regenerate anything as my knee is bone on bone.
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Nina.. I have been taking for 35 yrs as a tennis player and it acted exactly like you describe...
I avoided surgery for all these yrs. I’m now 82.
If I stop taking it for a few weeks I start to feel the aches and my cracking and popping get worse. I love it.
I had a dog a few years ago with arthritis in her back hips. She would still love to go for walks, but after a short time would start limping. I found a dog treat with glucosamine and after 2 weeks taking that, she stopped limping. That was proof enough for me to take it for my own arthritis. With people it’s harder to tell the effect as there’s such variance in diet and activity … but with my dog those were a constant.
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You docs are GREAT. Both are very HONEST! I recently purchased Osteo Bi-flex but, haven’t tried it! Several years ago & doc recommended it! Guess Will try it got a week
Thanks!
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_Love the Anchorman reference to the 'Sex Panther Cologne' scene. LOL You guys are my two favorite 'long-distance' doctors. 👍_
*And thanks, as always, to both of you for continuing to share your insightful knowledge with the world.*
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Sa-wheat!! I'm going to try it! Why not? I love you guy's and your sense of humour. I enjoy listening to each topic of medical issues but I think your humour is helping me feel so much better. TY Be Safe🌷🌷
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It is disappointing to see glucosamine not working for so many people because it sure worked for me. You do have to take the more expensive version which combines glucosamine with chondroitin. The stuff isn't a cure but after taking one a day my level of pain in the knees is about 1/4 of what it used to be.
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I had a second knee scope in 2001and was already having problems. The surgeon told me that I was on a path to osteoarthritis in the future. He recommended I start taking glucosamine. I did and it really made no day to day difference for many years. Since 2002 I have had a number of orthopedic surgeries due to job related injuries and an active lifestyle. A few times I would run out of glucosamine and be complacent about purchasing more. I started to notice that if I was off glucosamine for a week or more, that I would become very painful in joints that had been injured. Once back on the glucosamine, I would feel good in a few days. Almost like the body has a toxicity level it needs to maintain to work well. Since 2018, I have had several x-rays of the hips and knees and a 3rd knee scope on the same knee. One family practice doctor and one surgeon have both proclaimed that my joint spacing in my hips and knees is remarkable for my age, my known injuries, and my activity. I am a firm believer.
BTW about 10 years ago I removed diet soda from my life. The additional relief felt from removing aspertame made me never want to put it back in my body.
Thank you for sharing your experience
I have arthritis in my hips. I take Glucosamine & Chondrotin as well as Tumeric. I actually think the Turmeric helps some with inflammation. Not sure about the G & C.
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I had been taking glucosamine for the arthritis in my hands. Then I read a study that said it didn't work, so I stopped using it. Some years later as the arthritis progressed I tried it again. It noticeably helped me. So, I have continued with it.
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Absolutely works for me!
My biggest experience with this comes from an elderly dog that I owned. She could not walk up the stairs anymore. We built her a ramp to get in and out. After starting her joint supplements, she ran up the stairs instead of choosing the ramp. I don't think dogs get the placebo effect.
Yes used a lot in vet medicine
Hi
I took glucosamine and didn’t see any significant change in joint discomfort particularly in my back.
HOWEVER, when I took the combination of glucosamine and hyaluronic acid I did experience improvement in joint discomfort.
It was quite by accident that I ended up getting a bottle of Gluc. + HA so was I shocked when I felt better. I actually had to look at the ingredient label to see what was different and that’s how I found out about HA.
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It has worked for me for shoulder aches in the past. I had limited movement and it fixed me up within two weeks. I have recommend the product to others. A coworker of mine tells me that it worked on his knee but it raised his cholesterol levels. Take it for what is worth.
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Thank you so much for your great videos. Another supplement I have heard about for stiffness and pain in the knee joint due to osteoarthritis is natural eggshell membrane. Would your recommendation be similar to the effectiveness of glucosamine?
Hi Miranda. We have not specially reviewed the science but it is likely similar. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
Thanks for debunking that . I’ve always wondered if glucosamine and condroitin worked. I’m glad to know this is one expense I don’t need to budget for! BTW, I really love your cheerful interaction with each other!
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I had chondromalacia patella for almost a decade beginning in the 1980s. I could not walk for more than a mile or two without such severe knee pain that I had to stop walking. Doctors suggested knee surgery, which I did not want to do. In the '90s. I started taking Glucosamine regularly, sometimes in a supplement that also included Chondroitin. As time went on I was able to take longer and longer walks without any pain. For the past 20 years I have continued to take Glucosamine, and I regularly go on 5+ mile hikes without any pain at all. While this is just one anecdotal experience, trying out Glucosamine for a sufficiently long amount of time may be worth doing, to see if it helps you.
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I did so as well. No change.
How good did your knees get ? Not totally healed but much better ? I've only been taking glucosamine chondroitin pills for a couple of weeks and was wondering what the long term effects were ? Like new ?
@@frankmontez6853 I've been going on 5-6 mile hikes and x-c skiing for with no pain for the past 20 years. People have varied results depending on the type of wear on their joints. I had a gradual improvement, but it has been long-lasting with me continuing to take glucosamine all this time. It would be worth taking it for many months to see if it helps you.
@@LarkOfTheWoods Glucosamine causes diabetes , it's a side effect. I'm scared
Brilliant guys, I love it when you actually learn something, and in such a reasoned way. Cheers.
I have taken glaucosamine for over ten years. I have been diagnosed with arthritis in my neck, lower back and in my knees. The first sites were diagnosed years ago. The right knee in early 2020 when I ruptured my quadriceps tendon. I had no idea if it was effective until I stopped taking it for 3 weeks some 6 or 7 years ago, at which point I developed a noisy and uncomfortable neck. I went back on and in 2 weeks everything was fine again. Fast forward to about 3 years ago and my neck was sore again and may turning was limited. I went home after a bad day and checked the glaucosamine bottle for strength, it was 500mg, I had picked up the wrong bottle a few weeks before. My usual is 1300mg glaucosamine/condroitin and MSM. I returned to my usual dose and my neck was good again in 10 days. How did I take the wrong dose for days without noticing it? I use a pill box. Since surgery on my knee for the tendon in February 2020 I have been taking 2 x 1300mg daily along with 2 x 1000 iu D3.
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I have chronic knee pain I bought and tried 2 bottles did absolutely ZERO for me. thank you for being so honest.
Sorry to hear that. We try to just keep people informed
I tried it but it made by joints feel weird and uncomfortable. However, my dog had hip dysplasia and she couldn't walk without it, it was a miracle drug for her!
Hi Deanne. Well bow wow that is awesome. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
A friend of mine gave his older dog glaucosamine for his final years and it cleared up back pain he was suffering from.
Glucosamine with Chondroitin seems to be very popular even on this page. There are several well-respected Doctors who encourage people to try it. I am an RN and I know surgeons are going to recommend surgery because that's what they do, but surgery doesn't always work either about 30% of people are not satisfied after surgery.
I’ve been using glucosamine/chondroitin with MSN for about 15 years. I take it because it works for me. I started taking 3 a day for about 2 weeks then 2 a day for 2 weeks then dropped to one a day. I can miss a few days but then I have to start taking one a day again. I know of 4 people that it works the same way as I did.
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Thanks, doctors. This is the first time I have seen this channel.
I started taking glucosamine for joint pain, and after several weeks, the baseline for my tinnitus became worse. Removing glucosamine improved the overall sound after another two weeks.
This surprised me, as I thought the pills would not have a negative impact as it did.
Any comment is appreciated.
Hi RC. We were not aware of this issue. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
I think Glucosamine does help with joint pain. I tried it now for a second time and my blood pressure is skyrocketing. So now I will have to stop the supplement. Again
@@dm5129Seeing that this remark about BP was a year ago, you probably know by now that Glucosamine has sodium in it hence the tinnitus and increase in BP. 😀
@@maryc6091
Might depend on brand you buy, whether it contains sodium 🧂
Mine does not, and my bp is typically 115/72.
All I know is that it works with our cat's arthritis!
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Cats are so gullible, they really trust what their owners tell them.
@@phillipoleary2532 you clearly are not a cat parent. We rule the roost. We do not have owners, we have servants. Silly human...sincerely, Dean Martin De Pasquale 🐾
What I find with glucosamine is, when I stop taking it, for example after I see something like this video, my pain in my knees gradually increases over time. When I start taking it again my knee pain decreases over time. Currently I am taking it, and have been for a number of years, and I have no pain. I am 65, I swim laps for exercise, run on the elliptical, play tennis and golf a couple times a week. I also stretch everyday, and ice my knees after I play tennis. Placebo effect, I doubt it, but who knows.
Hey who cares! If it helps keep taking it. Thanks for watching and subscribing
Hi Docs, I have had knee pain for over a year. I'm 60 and overweight. I started taking Glucosamine to see if it would change anything. I did not have any expectations so I don't think I suffer from the placebo affect. After 3 weeks, my knee pain was gone. After a year of pain, 3 weeks of Glucosamine and no pain anymore. I don't know, but it really sounds like it did something to me. I guess I could stop it for a while and see if the pain comes back... I'll let you know how I do.
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@@TalkingWithDocs I just did a test. I have stopped taking glucosamine and within 3-4 weeks, my knee pain, knee cracking and ankle cracking started again. I'm now starting again to take Glucosamine to see if these symptoms will go away. I don't think I'm suffering from the placebo effect because it took so long to get the symptoms back. I will chime in again when the pain goes away.
I used to play pickup basketball weekly as well as jogged in my late 30s. I started to get some swelling and pain in the knees, particularly the right one. I started a regimen of this and after about 6 weeks I could feel a difference. Not completely gone but reduced and the swelling subsided. I’m now 71 with arthritis in both knees but my mobility is still good, with little pain. I still take 2 capsules a day.
Lets just say IF it is helping for some, then please do not do any clinical trials because they result in big pharma will name it and claim it and start charging huge amounts.
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I refer back to my comments regarding your discussion of turmeric; no harm but no supporting evidence of effect. That said, as you have rightly pointed out, there is always a significant placebo effect with any medication that should not be overlooked. Thank you, Dr. Jim waller
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it does nothing. my husband took it for his knee and it was a waste.
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@@TalkingWithDocs love your videos. I had my knee replaced 4 years ago at 51 best decision ever have to eventually have my left done
12 years ago I started to get knee pain after running 20 miles a week in my mid 20's. At that point I had been running for around 3 to 4 years with 2 rest days a week. I had to rest longer and tone down the mileage to 10 miles a week. I still got the knee pain and had dealt with it for about 3 months. around that time I started to look for answers because I didn't want to take pain medication or potentially get surgery. Tried to go natural by making a ton of bone broth and drinking it but that didn't help; it was a long process. 3 months after looking for answers I decided to go over the counter with supplements since glucosamine kept popping up on Google searches. My running started feeling better after 2 months of constantly taking it and I was able to get back to 20 miles a week after 6 months. The only times I got knee pain is when I did the tough mudder race or if I don't take it for a while with a 6-month break from working out and jumping back into running. But taking a break over 6 months and taking glucosamine 2-3 months prior to long runs stops the knee pain. Going over 30 - 40 miles per week of running I did get some stiffness or my knees feel weird even with glucosamine. About 5 years ago I started to incorporate balance exercises like single-leg balances which also helped. I'm in my late 30s now. Last year I was able to do 30+ miles per week and have no issues with my knees.
I'm coming back after an 8-month break, and took glucosamine for the past 3 months and doing single-leg balance exercises. Now I'm doing 10 miles per week 2 rest days and jump roping for 30 minutes(every other day including on run days) for the past 3 weeks with no pain. Will start doing 20 miles per week next week and hopefully 30 miles per week by September. Also doing full body exercises since I'm considering joining the airforce before the cut-off age.
Glucosamine didn't work for my wife or I. Waiting to drop enough weight for knee replacement. Can't wait until they come out with artificial knee cartilage. Surprised no one has gotten the 3D printer going on one of those.
Not yet Jim but they are working on it. Good luck Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
I’ve noticed better stabilization in my shoulder and knee when taking glucosamine and chondroitin. My joints seem to move more smoothly especially under heavy load. It’s worth a try.
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To my understanding Glucosamine works as lubricant on joint. If you consistent work out running your joint make knuckle sound even simple movements. After I took glucosamine I guess it lubricate joint cartridge to provide joint comfort. My joint doesn’t make knuckle sounds anymore. For arthritis pain I believe it does provide joint comfort.
Yes for some. Just scientific studies have not been able to show this. Glad it works for you. Thanks for watching and subscribing
@@TalkingWithDocs agreed. I think it’s overrated to a extend people think it’s magical pill. Business market and exaggerated in a way it’s going to fix and reverse problems.
Our doctor said, “ don’t bother with it unless you want expensive pee”. Saved my money. 👍🏼🇨🇦
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At one point both of my shoulders had severe bursitis, and had a shoulder surgery to repair a torn ligament on my left shoulder and my right needing to have a steroid shot at least 2x a year. But since I started taking Glucosamine, the pain on both shoulders subsided and the popping and creaking sound went away - I now have more movement w/o pain.
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I wonder what % of reported glucosamine sales are for the pet industry. My dog's vet recommended it = my dog Brodie gave it two paws up.
Hi John. Yes for pets seems to be more successful. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
My cat is on it too. She’s still pretty sore. Working on other solutions now. Elk Velvet is another thing my vet suggested.
When my dog was younger, he could easily jump on the couch. As he aged, he could no longer do so. Once I began to give him a Glucosamine pill everyday. he was again able to make the jump. As for me, I no longer heard a popping noise from my knees after I began taking it. My dog has no idea what a placebo is.
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Hi Docs I tried Glucosamine years ago and didn’t notice any difference. Thanks for the videos. Wasn’t it used on horses?
It is used on a lot of animals. Thanks for watching and subscribing
The veterinary version is cosequin & I believe Cosamin ( human version ) followed after.
I take M&Ms T.I.D. by mouth!😝 I go by the Science, and the industry has not impressed me. Naproxen takes the edge off. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Good health and blessings to all!
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I love the way you guys can explain all this to us, thanks for telling us both sides of meds ,
Our pleasure!
In 2001 I had chemo, I was having a lot of knee pain, so my GP suggested an X-ray and it showed I had 30% cartilage in 1 knee and less than 10% on the other. (Side effect of chemo, apparently) Doc gave me a prescription (UK) for glucosamine and 3 months later, my knees where up to 80% and 65%. Every time I get joint pain I take out the glucosamine and a couple of weeks the pain has gone. I’m 67 and won’t be without them. Maybe they don’t work for everyone, but I’ve suggested them to friends and the majority found that they helped. Worth a try! No?.
Yes it is doe. Everyone is different. So glad it worked for you. Thanks for watching and subscribing if you did
What brand/type did you take and what dosage? Would really appreciate it 🙏
@@galambosigabriel653 .hi, I took ( and still take) natural glucosamine sulphate, one a day. But please check with your GP of you need further information. They aren’t for everyone. But they suit me and my aches and pains. I’m not at all medically trained and I’m not endorsing these at all.
@LadyDoe17 Hello, I would like to consult with you on this matter and get your opinion. If you have an Instagram account, is it possible to write for this?
2-35 year nurses here, great video, Worked in Ortho as well as Icu ,Er Pcu, Lots of wear and tear on our bodies. Took glucosamine for years ,The sure way to tell it works is take it several months and stop. Our experience was, it led to greater joint pain, decreased mobility , when stopped. Now that being said, it was our experience , and yes we would not get off of it again. So what do you have to lose. It worked for us and we are a couple 71, happy thriving and we attribute a lot to glucosamine, chondroitin and msn . Your presentation was spot on. I have also see it work on animals , old .
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