The top foods alarmingly high in pesticides | Prof. Tim Spector
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2023
- The pesticides in our food can have a huge impact on your health.
But which foods contain the highest levels of these chemicals? And is buying organic the only option to protect your body?
Jonathan is joined by Professor Tim Spector to discuss the topic. Tim is one of the world's top 100 most cited scientists, a scientific co-founder of ZOE, and the author of the bestselling book Food for Life: The New Science of Eating Well.
If you want to uncover the right foods for your body, head to joinzoe.com/podcast, and get 10% off your personalized nutrition program. - Věda a technologie
Full episode here: czcams.com/video/E4nJ07_02NQ/video.htmlsi=9WwXxgzXvCS0jqat
This is very distressing information to someone who can't afford organic food. I consume a lot of frozen berries everyday, as berries are touted as a life-extending, anti-cancer food that are full of polyphenols etc, yet low in sugar compared with other fruits. Organic berries of any kind are both extremely hard to come by in Scotland (there's no Ocado here for example) and where they are available, they are extremely expensive (about £6 for a small bag that would be about 2-3 80g portions, often less). To eat mostly organic food would cost at least £100 per person per week. That is no where near attainable for someone who is unable to work due to chronic illness. So what should I eat? Is it better to eat "healthy" foods that are full of pesticides or should I avoid certain foods altogether because I can't afford or access organic? And why oh why are above safe levels of pesticides even allowed in our foods?!
Yes I agree this is very upsetting news 😢,,,,I cant afford to buy organic fruit and vegetables, I can afford 2 products maybe but that's it...I think the best option is to grow my own , even a small space can work 😊
@@ameliabyrne3907I agree. I want the best diet for me and my children but the price differences are astounding. It’s hard to buy organic all the time.
Same. I eat a lot of frozen berries during the week. I'm trying to eat more wholefoods but keep it affordable, nutritional and with low food waste. I looked online and the organic versions are expensive and also not accessible to buy in your usual supermarket. Bit annoyed they talk about tinned and frozen not being much more expensive, but this is not the case :(
@@dennisward43 Does this work still if they are frozen?
Can you grow your own?
Worst offenders
0:01 oats
1:02 rice
1:44 some fruits and strawberries
Thank you ZOE you have increased my anxiety level no end.
But I don't get why you would spray a pesticide, designed to kill pests, to dry something out??
😂😂
In the UK we desperately need legislation to free up land near towns and cities so people and communities can grow their own organic veg.
Im a strawberry grower in the uk. There is zero chance of glyphosate contaminating strawberries as i would neveruse it anywhere near the crop. There is no reason.
Also organophosphates are not allowed in the uk now Afaik.
Please Tim go and spend some time on a fruit farm and see how it is actually done.
I think the conversation was a bit dialled down, not differentiating between use of pesticides, herbicides and no mention of artificial fertiliser.
Of course no one puts glyphosate on anything other than dying or GM crops. But strawberries are high up lists for pesticides in U.K. and US
Honestly I just give up with this. I find out that all this ultra-processed food is bad, so I try and eat whole foods only to discover they are all covered in pesticides, the fish are going extinct, the animals are all raised cruelly, the food from abroad causes climate change. Sod it, I’m just going to eat what I fancy and die whenever I die.
Yeah so true I’m sick of obtaining knowledge only to find everything is going to kill us!!!!!
What a depressing podcast. Maybe it would be easier to make a list of what we CAN eat.
You get what you can get and afford . Please remember what 'zoe' is and who promoteing it.
Please tell me? I have no idea @@fatwhitebloke9851
Good for you. There’s a limit. I hope you live long and happy.
I’m trying so hard to eat well but it can be so hard to know what’s right and wrong. I’m beginning to get overwhelmed with all the do’s and don’ts !!!!
Start with the basic principles
- eat plenty of fruits and veggies. Organic preferably but even non organic is better than no fruit and veggies.
- eat whole foods
- avoid added sugar
- avoid refined grains
This in the foundational diet as prof Christopher Gardner explains it (you will find several video’s of him on YT)
Then you can see to add nuts / seeds / beans / some animal protein if you like / some dairy (like Greek yogurt bc it’s fermented I.e. avoid industrial sugary yogurts) / fermented food
Don’t over complicate things : eat a little bit of everything thus no meat everyday (even if most of us were raised that way) but eat beans or chickpeas, you will discover new recipes and eat more fiber..
Eat some fat because our brains need fat and it’s better for the absorption of certain vitamins.
If you stick to the idea of whole food and avoid industrial food you will be far better than a lot of people.
Flahavans don’t use oats that have had glyphosate used at any stage of the growing /harvest process.
They're the only ones I buy. It's SO HARD to find organic oats!
Have you got a link to the lists mentioned for the UK please?
Rather depressing, as I have a number of health issues I try and eat mainly whole foods and more and more frequently we find fruit and veg isn’t as healthy as we hoped! Thanks for another useful video.
I'm changing to organic oats right now. Was about to order another 50 lbs conventional & this info is *just in time!* Thank you!!
any ideas on a safe organic oat to buy? @@TOM-TOM-TOM
I am eating Jordan’s organic oats every morning , I am assuming the levels in this product are much lower, but guess they have some in them.
SAVE the horses ,, get Humans to eat HUMAN food
@dough7734 I you can find a grower who does not use glyphosate for harvesting, you may be able to buy it direct. Our local food co-op does this.
@@k8eekatt A grower that "CLAIMS" to not use glyphosate ,,, and will they say their neighbours farms are glyphosate free?
I find hearing of this stuff incredibly helpful but also rather stressful. It seems that no matter how hard you try you are doing something wrong by your family.
Perhaps the stress will have worse effect on your health. I think we're spending a lot of time in "marginal gains" territory these days, and especially at Zoe. Humans must be pretty robust to still be on the scene.
I would really like to read these studies. I am wondering where to find them?
I've been pressure cooking dried beans and lentils for a few years. A 2019 study was published by the University of São Paulo in Brazil titled "Effect of pressure cooking on the reduction of pesticide residues in beans". It was in the journal Food Chemistry.
The researchers tested the levels of five different pesticides:
Chlorpyrifos
Cypermethrin
Deltamethrin
Diazinon
Malathion
Found that pressure cooking for 15 minutes reduced the levels of all five pesticides by at least 90%. The greatest reduction was seen for cypermethrin, with a reduction of 99%. I pressure cook quinoa for the same reason.
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This is unique to just pressure cooking?
Oooh thanks! I use my electric pressure cooker all the time. But also good question above - is this specific to pressure cooking?
The problem with "organic" is that you don't know if your paying extra for a word on a package for the exact same thing. As long as food companies are allowed to lie about what they are selling you it's just a waste of money.
If it is certified organic then they are inspected at every point in the chain, samples are taken and tested. Most companies and growers won't take the risk of being caught. Look for certifier codes - UK will have GB-ORG-nn, Germany DE-OKO-nn (the first 2 letters denote the country where it was packed, not necessarily grown, nn is the number of the individual certifier). If it's an online or direct seller ask if they have a valid certificate.
@@therider4909 That's wonderful, for those who live in the UK or Germany, probably most of Europe, but the US is a little more hit and miss (mostly miss) with the inspections and the fines are so small they don't discourage dishonest people who know they can make billions and pay only thousands, in fines.
This is so depressing, we try so hard to eat healthily, seems we are going to have to grow our own. Sainsburys do a small range of organic frozen veg but cannot find any organic fruit in any of the big name supermarkets!
Eating the Zoe way is such hard work … the number of foods I shouldn’t eat grows daily!
really? what are the animals eating?
@@ilonabaier6042 ????
It takes effort, which I understand is difficult in todays ultra convenient ultra processed world.
But I have to ask…Why aren’t you and all the likers outraged about how poisoned our “food” system has become, how it destroys the environment and exploits people? There’s a reason the smallholding/homesteader movement has surged in recent years, we can’t trust government or retailers to provide us safe, nourishing food.
I’ve never seen so many sick looking people, everywhere, in every country, not just the “rich” west, since we’ve exported our crappy diet far and wide
@@helendennis7662 I’ve been doing it for two years I know all about effort 😊 my starting point was very bad so I’ve improved my gut I’m sure. It’s just discouraging to keep finding food I shouldn’t eat. I’m interested in eating for health but I’m no cook and autistic (so like eating the same meals) not interested in becoming a cook so I’m finding it hard
@helendennis7662 with the global population as high as it is right now, organic farming isn't viable for everyone. Advances in pesticides are responsible for saving millions of people from starving to death.
I could eats Oats 'til the cows come home, I changed to organic oats about a year ago, I just hope when it says organic, that it truly means organic!
I love oats too but the price of organic ones are triple the price ! It’s hard to buy organic all the time .
It depends on the weather during harvest. they used to dry with hot air but climate change….
Poison eat bacon and eggs for breakfast. 🤣
I know with corn, there's pretty much no such thing as organic corn, regardless of what the label says unfortunately.
@@stefaniegalea6810Aldi do organic jumbo oats at 2 quid for a kilo.
Thank you. Really appreciate Zoe sharing their knowledge with us, warts and all!
So very frustrating that such high levels are allowed, but, much prefer to be informed and know what I am eating/ & can then choose what not to eat, than remain in ignorance or have content “dummed down” or facts missed out. Nothing more annoying than that!
I love strawberries, but rarely eat them now because I have known for some years how intensively they are sprayed. Now we just choose to only eat them in season when the organic ones are quite reasonable to buy as an occasional treat. Sometimes I weaken and buy local, but at least I know I am probably eating pesticides and that stops me binging:-( If you think about it, strawberries always used to be a much looked forward to, seasonal treat, it’s only the supermarkets that have made us think we should be able to eat everything, all the time, every month of the year. The cost is the environment, the planet, and our health. In the winter we love to eat stewed apple buckwheat pancakes with some nuts for breakfast:-) Yummy, filling, and not to expensive.
A pound / 500g of dry beans makes 5 - 6 cans' worth, making it affordable to buy organic. I cook a pound at a time in the pressure cooker which saves energy.
I SOAK my beans (mostly lentils, garbanzos (for humus) and Navy beans/white beans) for a day or two. Less for lentils, even longer for garbanzos, until they 'just' begin to sprout (higher nutrients/fewer lectins). I also peel the garbanzos, and for this soaking/sprouting process takes about 3 days. The hummus is SO yummy (organic sesame seeds of course). Cheers.
YES, so affordable, and most of these end dishes can be frozen in small bathes for enjoyment many weeks later. (I freeze in glass bowls and move to plastic freezer bags later, when food molecules are stabilized.)
@@eugeniebreida1583 wow, interesting to sprout before cooking; I only soak beans overnight. Also the freezing [end dishes] in glass then moving to bags sounds good. Btw glass jars will freeze ok too if you leave the lid open until frozen, but aren't space efficient. Yes, it's great to have many beans in the fridge/ freezer to choose from and to have at the softness I prefer . They taste better than canned, for sure.
I always understood that as gylphosate works systemically (the plant absorbs it into it's root system through the leaves which is what kills it) that any root vegetable you eat should probably be organic. Presumably the glyphosate would be found inside the root itself i.e not just in the skin of the root vegetable. This would apply to onions as well as carrots, potatoes etc. Do you have any thoughts on this? Thanks.
All root crops have above ground leaves. However they aren’t likely to be sprayed with glyphosate as that’s a general weed killer and would kill the crop, but they can be sprayed with any number of other pesticides and grown with artificial fertilisers.
The reason glyphosate can be sprayed on crops while they’re growing is because they are genetically modified to be glyphosate resistant, Soya is a prime example. Thanks to Monsanto for that!
Glyphosate is also now being sprayed on non GM crops that can be killed as they have finished growing, to aid harvest, as Tim explained - wheat and oats are commonly sprayed pre-harvest.
Of course that means the glyphosate is right there on the grain, the part we eat, even when it is hulled/milled etc it will make its way into our final food. Absolutely criminal.
I have thoughts . . . and agree about the systemic uptake of glyphosate from the soils. As a corollary I would think the skins would be rich in both minerals AND contaminants/pesticides.
@@eugeniebreida1583o o
Glyphosate is a herbicide. Not sure why it would be used just before harvest to dry out the barley????
@@rossd6809 because it dries the crop it makes it easier to harvest - in countries with wetter climates this is more convenient and prevents damp grain going into store.
This time of year it may be wise to avoid pickin blackberries that are bordering crop fields. These hedges are never cut/trimmed back. The accumilation over the years must be horrendous.
Always British Organic certified these days - Soil Association certification is at the top of my list.
Pesticides do not accumulate year after year. In fact the majority have very short half-lives in the environment, measured in hours or days. So go and pick your blackberries.
In a conversation with biologists/scientists on the subject of pesticides in crops one of them remarked (humorously) that it's a good idea to vary the fruit and vegetables we eat so that we don't end up with a concentration of any one particular pesticide/herbicide in our system. Worth considering
I eat oatmeal almost every day with some honey and nuts and don't know better food and it did help my gut and overall health .
Where is the list?
In talking about exposure to chemicals, another thing that concerns me is the tin can liner Bisphenol A, sprayed on the inside of cans to protect them. Exposure to this chemical increases in tins with acidic contents such as tomatoes and tomato based products. This worries me alot. I try to eat organic wherever possible but organic tinned tomatoes and baked beans are potentially containing this chemical so I avoid them now.
Some companies, I believe are now not using this can liner but not enough. Could you do a video about this too?
In What journals and which research has PROF Spector published ? Thank you
Is it better to buy dried or tinned
Not just organic oats, but organic oat groats is the way to go. It's not the "run off" of arsenic that elevates the level in rice. It's the fact that rice is often grown on land that is or was used to grow cotton, which is a non food crop so toxic pesticides are able to be used, and the arsenic is left in the soil then sequestered by the rice grown on the same land. Basically just google the dirty dozen and the clean fifteen for a list of non-organic foods high and low in toxins.
good knowledge
Which applies primarily to US grown rice. I understand that organic brown rice contains even higher levels than non-organic white rice. The issue with strawberries is much more likely to be fungicides than herbicides and pesticides due to their suceptibility to botrytis. Blueberries are also high on the Dirty Dozen List.
@@justinhamill7608 I was just wondering if the frozen wild blueberries I buy are poisoned with any pesti or herbi cides this morning. Hoping this is not the case, but I am suspicious and may have to delete them. I only use them in my organic oatmeal groats in the morning. Everything else is organic blueberries from Aldi's or wherever they show up the least expensive.
It's a damn shame that we have to act like the food industry is trying to poison us, because it is. And people are still wondering if the carcinogenic and toxic fumes that they spew into the air with gas and hybrid vehicles is any problem. While millions of people die each year because of all this crap in our environment, and never know why.
@@justinhamill7608you sound well informed :-) so buy organic white rice or organic brown rice not from the states?
Post Brexit and out from EU protection am I right in thinking the UK will get more food with harmful chemicals & growth hormones etc from the States? 😢
I always have this question. How are the countries such as China, Japan, India, and others doing with their rice? Have they adapted? Do they not use chemicals? I always like the "real world data" to be discussed. Good to know about the frozen organic veggies. I'll look for them.
They don't use rice in bags. They are washing soaking rice.
They rinse it like crazy.
@@azmrlSo do I!
The last time I read an article about arsenic levels in rice varieties, basmati rice was said to have the least. I just googled to see if I could find the article. It didn't appear but the results that came up for "rice arsenic uk" are the stuff of nightmares!
Some Eastern countries like Sri Lanka has suffered from glyphosate immensely n now the thing is banned. Farmers r switching to organic fertiliser a lot
It's still better to consume lots of non-organic fruits and vegetables vs. not eating enough organic ones. Many people don't have great access or the ability to pay for organic food so they just forgo the regular kind of fruits/veggies. Not a good trade-off.
@@TOM-TOM-TOM Exactly. And don't even get me going on the bugs and mold I find on organic broccoli!
A quick look at your ancestry ( genetics) will give you a pointer in the right direction. My Ancestors came from northern UK ,,, they dug 3 metres down through ice but NEVER found any Mango's ...... no pineapples ,, no rice ,,, etc . They did find small animals and occasionally a larger animal was hunted ,, they did find birds eggs , they had a "treat" in late summer of some berries and some leafy greens.
I couldn’t agree more. Most of the population of North America consumes non organic and are not experiencing ill effects from those whole minimally processed foods.
@@missknight9Minimally processed is not the same as free of pesticides.
How do you know they aren’t experiencing any ill effects? This is could be one reason for the high obesity rate in the USA. Pesticides damage the microbiome, promoting obesity.
An unhealthy microbiome affects many parts of the body. This is one cause of ‘Western diseases’ such as diabetes, Alzheimer’s, heart disease and cancer. Another cause is obesity.
Zoe say that it’s still better to eat fruit and veg if you can’t afford organic, but that does not mean there are no ill effects from eating pesticides. It just means that the ill effects of not eating fruit and veg outweigh the ill effects of eating pesticides.
Be careful, a lot of studies claim to show high levels of glyphosate on foods. But in fact they are analysing for metabolites of glyphosate. They detect the metabolite and then assume that glysphosate is present when in fact the metabolites may be derived from perfectly innocuous substances. In any case, glyphosate is not toxic to humans, it interferes with plant metabolism. It has been tested upteen times in rodents studies and is one of the safest pesticides available. But politicians are after the green vote, so.... I am a toxicologist with 30+ years of experience and no affiliation to the PPP industry.
Don’t forget industrial use of chemicals in farming has made food plentiful for the majority of people. Before this happened the poor where malnourished and life expectancy was much less than now. So as ever everything has a consequence
Regarding Onions and not having higher levels of pesticides (because we don't eat the skin), is there any truth about Onions being essentially like a sponge and absorb everything around them, making them absorve a lot more of pesticides in soil? This is something I've heard years ago but never heard any expert actually talking about this. Thanks for the channel and answer in advance
Everything is, not just onions.
Well, that is just a non-answer. Not arguing whether the following works or not but some people cut onions in half and place them in a room to get rid of smells, other people believe that onions can cure colds & flu symptoms by absorving viruses and bacteria, etc. I've never heard the same being said about a banana@@azmrl
ALDI do some organic oats.
I did a taste comparison with Aldi Organic and Flahavan’s Organic. Both Irish, but different millers. Not much between them, imo, so I go for Aldi (Kavanagh). Currently under £2 per kg, that’s approx. 10p per serving. Though I bulk mine out with milled flaxseed, fresh sliced banana and frozen blueberries 😋
Zoe seems to forget that they are on a good wage and can afford these pesticide free foods, for ages we have been trying to eat more healthily only to find out we are still slowly poisoning our self's.
Shooting the messenger? When did Zoe become farmers, regulators, and government?
This stuff is not news. They are only telling you what the research shows (and that people have known for decades). Don't watch these videos if the information bothers you. It's not about people with plenty of disposable income, if you're informed and careful with your spending you can make yours go further. I've been doing that for ages on a modest wage.
Ok, so all I have to do is find a way to earn twice the amount of money I currently do so that I can afford organic food. I would also preferably only work a few hours a week so I have more time to agonise over every tiny food choice I make.
it also comes down to priorities. I don't know your financial situation, but i'm a student and cut other spendings because i'd rather pay more for organic produce
@anna-xq8xb That's fair enough. I just feel like these types of videos can needlessly worry people judging by the comments. Whether or not you buy organic food feels like a 1st world problem in a lot of ways. If you want to buy organic that's cool, but if not I don't think it's the end of the world.
I agree with you! but also this channel is about science and nutrition so I don't think it's bad to create these types of videos. whether or not you can personally afford it, I think it's important to make people aware of the issues in our farming systems and bring information to the people where governments are failing. @@bentrayford6132
Are organic oats ok?
It’s crazy that pesticides and herbicides are allowed!
It’s a good job they are, because otherwise millions of people would starve to death. Yields on organic farms are pathetic compared to non-organic.
Oh hell, oats are my go to breakfast and I still have a fortnight's worth of 'toxic' porridge to get through. Thanks for the warning but it's sucked the joy out of breakfast for the next couple of weeks. I also eat salads daily so, great... 😭
ALDIs organic oats are Flanagans equivalent and half the price
organic tinned beans are 3 times the price of non organic beans, they claim in this video they are 10p more expensive - thats simply not true.
definitely regional, in a store when I was in the US an organic tinned can of chickpeas vs non organic was actually 10 cents more expensive. I'm now living in Germany and organic food is way more affordable and almost the norm. but in the UK it's a whole different story, you'd pay like 3 times the price
Its all very well suggestingn that we eat avocdo and mangos - but they have quite a lot of airmiles associated with them
So organic oats are necessary?
Clash here between human health and environmental damage. Avocados cost huge amounts of water in the countries which produce them. So difficult to defend us westerners demanding that water resources are used up to give us a better diet.
What about Oat Milk? Any tests on those. The Barister versions are the most popular.
I don't buy it because NO part of it is organic. Too bad, they charge enough.
Aldi do organic oats, perhaps surprisingly. Also bulk packs available on Amazon. I only know because I saw the issue highlighted on Zoe and went looking…
Good advice but I feel this is for wealthier people. I live in Scotland and organic food not easy to find and if you do it is very expensive. If you're on a budget this makes you feel helpless.
Organic oats are in my cupboard. I have to focus on oats in other products.
you mentioned FROZEN ORGANIC fruit and veg but where do you buy it; sainsburys has ONE product waitrose have peas and sweetcorn so its not a high st thing yet?
I do online grocery shopping with Ocado and they have a good range of fresh, frozen, canned and dried organic foods including fruit and veg.
Where are you buying these cheap frozen organic blueberries in the UK ?!
how can we trust organic to be organic, its a gamble thanks to profit
I've noticed it's harder to buy organic fruit in the main supermarkets of recent months, often no organic options at all on products that previously always did. I've also noticed with Sainsburys that they have best before dates on their own brand non-organic, but no best before dates on their own brand organic (when in stock). I have assumed that in both instances, the resulting issues from leaving the EU have meant produce takes longer to get to the shelves? But obviously, this is just an assumption, I've no other information to go on.
Definitely due to brexit but could also be possibly due to lower demand of organic goods especially in the UK. Very few people in the UK buy organic as it is, but with cost of living crisis/inflation/recession, I think even less people are buying organic now - so supermarkets are pulling them off the shelves.
We shop at Ocado and have a good selection of organic.
@@Mochachinoexfk awesome, thanks for the tip, I'll try them 👍
Obvious point but organic box? I think riverford cover a lot of the uk, but there are also more local providers.
You can tailor your box with Riverford, but tbh I’m usually too lazy to do that so I get to eat a wider range of veg than I might just to use the box up! (ChatGPT: I have half a bag of kale, 3 tomatos and a kohlrabi, plus store cupboard essentials…what can I cook? 😂)
Tim for the past 1000 videos: "Eat as many fruits and vegetables as you possibly can or you're gunna die!"
Tim in this video: "Oh, by the way... All those fruits and vegetables are dripping in poison. You have 5 minutes to live."
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he is talking about the microbiome for your gut
Even if the Uk eventually bans the use of gylphosate, will that stop food being imported from other countries which still use it? I doubt it. It seems organic is the way to go, if only we could all afford it!
Avoid 1 Oats 2 Rice 3.fruits
Sainsbury's 'SO Organic' porridge oats are over 200% more expensive than their 'Stamford Street' brand. Ouch!
Organic, a label to extract more money from the rich. If there were really any problems, the 'official' government scientists would ban the chemicals. Not do a CZcams video.
Buy in bulk online, I’m still going through a big bag I panic bought in covid 😂 I also only eat a small amount as very quickly in the pandemic I realised I needed to lose weight and switched to low carb.
Sadly true. What price for health. Let food be your medicine. Aristotle. Not easy to buy organic on a low income but we try.
Porridge is my go to 😰
Buy organic! Support a farmer who cares about the land and who cares about you! Organic farming is a high risk venture as there is no crop insurance for organic farming. In Ontario Canada we are working hard to change that. At the organic conference at my agricultural college nearby, companies were looking for farmers they could pay to not use glyphosate on their crops. The demand is much larger than supply! Especially because so many children are anaphylactic to dairy.! 7 percent of children in Ontario are deadly allergic to a foodstuff!
I found this out quite a few years ago , observing farm fields on my way to town. I couldn’t understand how a beautiful field of oats suddenly looked very wet. The next day the plants had all died! Desiccating is what the herbicide sellers call it. I asked at the organic conference about that field and learned of the practice of spraying it with glyphosate just before harvest. How cruel to poison my food just before I serve it to my highly allergic grandson! We were relying on oat milk and oat whole grain bars as foodstuffs. One brand” Made Good”was already creating great oat bars. The oat milk company, I informed about the practice! They came out with an organic product soon after. They also started demanding no glysophate be sprayed on the oats they purchase. It is quite cheap to test grain now for chemicals. The U S has a label called “glysophate free”. Because now they can cheaply test!
Very useful to know, and washing fruit with bicarbonate seems a safe, cheap remedy
Are organic oats okay?
The sodium bicarbonate idea seems good.
Would a wash in a warm solution followed by a thorough rinse then a second wash in a fresh solution followed by another rinse bring, for example, blueberries down to organic levels or even lower? Also how much of the pesticides would remain in the fruit itself after all that?
Lidl often sells organic fresh vegetables at affordable prices.
I don't know what the problem is, I eat Organic steel-cut oatmeal.
I live very close to a large arable field. 2020 the crop was wheat. A few weeks prior to harvest it was sprayed with glyphosate as a grain conditioner to kill the seed on the stalk to make it dry at harvest in the same way oats are often treated. If wheat is kept in the silo for more than 1 season, it is often sprayed to control pests. Wheat can vary hugely in glyphosate content. I have switched to smaller flour producers for brown, mixed grain or granary flours, all white bread flour I buy is organic, I never buy commercial bread or budget priced white flour.
Did you mean: " all white flour I buy IS organic" or "is non-organic"? I'm wondering why buying flour from smaller producers would be preferable, if they also spray it with pesticides.
Oh bugger. I hadn’t really thought about flour…and bread..
There was a typing error. I meant organic white bread flour. In supermarkets it is the easiest to find organic flour.
Smaller producers generally do know where their wheat was grown and have good relations with the farmers that supply them. If it is not organic, it may have been sprayed at some stage. What I don’t want is flour that has either been sprayed just prior to harvest as a grain conditioner or sprayed when in long storage in a silo. Good quality, independent small flour mills like Shipton, Marraiges, and others, will not use late sprayed or long stored wheat, even in their non organic range.
As an example of the really high quality flour that can be found, there is a whole grain flour called YQ. I will quote from the web sites description of the wheat the flour is milled from. “The population is a crop of extraordinary diversity, that has emerged over time from a wide range of carefully chosen parent varieties, leading to fields of millions of genetically distinct individual wheat plants rather than the usual genetically uniform monocultures.”
The genetic diversity means the fields grown like this are naturally more pest resistant so spraying is far less likely to be needed. This is part of a wheat breeding program that is aiming to improve the quality of our food. The YQ flour made from it is whole grain and organic, it is only produced on a small scale so far, but hopefully the idea will take off if the yields are big enough.
I blend it with strong organic white bread flour and it makes wonderful bread.
I appreciate some insights into the topic however no references cited, no data or mention of dosage, no info on why it would be a good idea to avoid in stead of just assuming, etc… not a very helpful or insightful video tbh. Not to mention the click bait title ..
I find Tim Spector's attitude to food a bit depressing - uneccessarily so. If you google glyphosate in oats for instance, yes, it says there is glyphosate in oats, but that it is often within limits and that it's use is decreasing. The truth is that most things we eat have harmful stuff in, even if you grow stuff yourself. So interesting up to a point, but we need numbers - levels - evidence to understand the depth of the problem, otherwise this looks like scare mongering. Reading his book (Everything you thought you knew about food is wrong) is the same - it's all bad so you need to buy organic........but that isn't the answer for a lot of us.
I think we all have to be more precise with definitions. What we mean by terms such as ‘poisonous’ or ‘bad’ or ‘dangerous’ or ‘toxic’ is very muddled as they tend to mean different things to different people in different circumstances.
I’m a Zoe participant and follow all of this. I’m also a farmer who has used glyphosate for many years so I see both sides of this debate.
The work that the Zoe team is doing is principally about the human gut biome. So when things are flagged up as ‘bad’ it’s because they are thought to damage or work against healthy and diverse gut flora and fauna. That’s not necessarily the same as being toxic or poisonous to our bodies to the extent that say rat poison would be. Many ordinary foods that we eat that may contain no pesticides may also be similarly bad for our gut biome because, for example, they are too over processed or have little or no natural plant fibre. Much of our diet falls into these categories and is best avoided or healthier alternatives sought out. It’s not as difficult as it seems and just needs some knowledge and the desire to check labelling and ingredients 👍
@@charlespaynter8987 Great response, thanks. Makes a lot of sense!
Can you start growing your own fruit, veg and/or herbs in your garden. Also one could get an allotment. If this is too much work, ask your local allotment association if anyone needs some regular help. In return when there's a surplice of produce they can give it to you. You will also get the benefits of being outside and in nature. Make new friends. Great hobby to share with children. Finally, you will all have fun learning .
Even organic oats?
Thanks for this presentation. Some people in countries where famine is rife would eat any food available
And those poor places must be where the US ships their gmo/RoundUpReady/pesticide coated grains. Heaven knows I don't wish to eat them. (Am in US, trying hard to avoid grains period. But indeed when I eat them at home everything is organic. At my local cafe?? Not much of a chance, so a rare treat that is best avoided entirely. VERY sad/not very sociable. : (. )
there are many people in the UK who couldnt afford organic food on a regular basis, so lets not pretend it's just poorer countries affected.
Aldi do organic oats cheaply. You can only do what you can afford so just choose a couple of things to change.
The more videos i watch the more i can't eat. How regulated is organic as in what are they allowed and not allowed to do
Arsenic occurs naturally in many soils, it’s not ‘runoff’.
Not always 'runoff'. True. It also IS the result of many mining and other manufacturing processes.
Ive just been told by my NHS dietitian to continue eating a wide variety of fruit and veg but she was adamant that they do not need to be organic. Very confusing.
Very poisoning. She is not a gardener, obviously.
I think Chubbyemu was right when he said that if you don't need it, it shouldn't go into your body. It's just difficult. And Dietitians don't study the effects of pesticides in food.
As if being coeliac isn't hard enough I've now got to search out gluten-free AND organic oats for my home-made muesli. Probably not going to happen!
Does arsenic do much harm in low doses??
Rice thoroughly washed, and cooked by the lots of water method, then drained, will have around half the arsenic removed. Don't use the cooking water.
Pesticides in British organic oats, is Tim seriously telling us the whole truth. I work on an organic farm in Berkshire, it is unfortunate to hear someone talking about a subject they know nothing about. If he is this wrong about oats, can we trust anything he says? He needs to apologise to all British organic farmers for not clarifying his comments. To everyone out there, keep eating your oats, they are a very fine food. Buy British Organic!
"some" bicarbonate?
Red tractor organic oats ... aussie made
Surely Organic Oats should not contain Glysophate, can I continue to eat these safe in the knowledge that is the case, if not how on earth does Glysophate qualify as being "organic".
Above what "safety levels" exactly, and who regulates that? The EU? FDA?
What about buying frozen fruit that isn't organic? Is this a little bit better then organic fresh fruit and vegetables? Not sure if the frozen element kills certain pesticides and all.
I don't have much organic frozen fruit and vegetables and my Tesco Extra store.
Is fruit that isnt organic better than non organic? Well,really they are the same thing.
@@pheart2381 It was a typo which I have fixed now.
Omg, I've just broken a 36hr fast with overnight oats
I’d be really interested in some lateral thinking discussion about extraneous variables in nutrition research. For example, if you’re on a keto diet like me you’d coincidentally be avoiding almost all of these high pesticide foods, without consciously deciding to. Or perhaps if you’re doing a Candida diet you’re also going into ketosis and also not eating high pesticide food, but you’re not aware of either. And with lots of these particular diets you’re cutting out ultra processed food just because suitable food isn’t really available. My feeling is that a lot of nutrition research isn’t studying what it thinks it’s studying.
The recent depression and UPF study discussion is a different variation on this - as a psychology graduate rather than a nutritionist - what seems obvious to me is that as depression creeps in one of the first casualties is the ability to make good food choices. You lack the energy and motivation to prepare food from scratch. An ultra processed, high carb, convenient alternative gives much better short term outcomes, and you lose the ability to prioritise long term health over your immediate needs. Association studies are almost useless in these circumstances, and re recent Zoe discussion about non compliance in cross over diet studies, it might be that even these aren’t particularly accurate.
Only if your animal protein is organically reared. Otherwise, the animals will be eating feed that is grown used pesticides, like maize.
Is there anything that is actually left to eat that isn't going to kill us or rib us of every penny. Honestly I find these videos depressing. Most of us can't afford to eat masses of organic wholefoods.
Do the experts at ZOE have any thoughts on the rising tide of information relating to the Carnivore Diet? Do you reckon it’s an unsafe passing fad, or do you feel there are some interesting cases / outcomes that warrant your attention / further research? Look forward to hearing your views. Thanks
Eating up higher in the chain means higher concentrations of pesticides. Farmed salmon is the worst, with beef second.
Would recommend watching the protein videos. They talk about keto diets which are usually high in meat and might be of interest to you.
There’s no data on the safety of the carnivore or even keto diets long term. However if you watch Valter Longo who has studied the Blue zones, he tells you they eat pretty low protein. So if you are eating for longevity that’s the way to go. More than about 20g of protein in a meal causes a rise in mTOR which is a growth promoter, and could make cancer grow as well as your muscles. Very much depends where you are in life and your current and future goals.
Thanks. Just wondered what ZOE’s nutrition experts thought of it.@@helendennis7662
I think they're too busy with trying to promote their "Upper Middle Class Diet" propaganda at the moment. Haha!
Why do organic oat taste so bad compared to none organic?
I think this conversation could have been better presented but there’s a lot to explain and it’s only 7 minutes. For a much more in depth interview look up Dr Rangan Chatterjee talking to Dr Mark Hyman 2 months ago (around July 23) they mentioned almost everything that comments here did, but it’s a couple of hours listening, it is a nuanced subject that won’t fit into a 7 minute video
Eating the skin of fruit and veg used to be the _healthy_ option.
You can grow strawberries at home in pots.
Yes absolutely 😁👍
Strawberries commonly get tested as above the safety levels!! Why are these still for sale?!! I see loads of strawberries piled high in the supermarkets. There's not even a health warning on them! What's the point of having safety levels?!
While I accept the general premise of what the Prof is saying, he needs to fact check what he is saying. Glyphosate would kill oats as it is a herbicide lethal to monocots. Just see what it does to your lawn. Herbicides are not sprayed anywhere near fruit plants for the same reason. You would never find herbicide residues on avocados or any other tree crop. Virtually all cucumbers that you eat in the UK are grown under glass or under plastic which means that they do not need to apply herbicides or insecticides as biological controls are more cost effective. In the last 5 years our monitoring programme has taken 145 samples of cucumbers from UK, NL and ES and 55.9% had no residue detected and 99.3% had residues less than 50% of the MRL (which is a legal limit that is tighter than the Food Safety limit). Yes, the public needs to be aware of pesticides, but please educate them with accurate facts.
While I stick by my comments on fruit and veg in which I specialise, I have to hold my hands up and say I was wrong about oats. There are some varieties of oats that have been bred to be glyphosate resistant, so glyphosate can be sprayed without killing the crop. Also, I have found out that glyphosate is used as a desiccant on cereals in the run up too harvest. So, an embarrassing slice of humble pie for me. I hope that the Prof will similarly go back and fact check what he has said on fruit and veg, as it is not correct.
He didn't finish the sentence about oats. Was he trying to say organic oats were OK?
Peeling fruits and vegetables typically removes the most nutritious part.
Also removes the most toxic parts. Most plant toxins are in the skin as protection from predators.
Which is worse, external pesticides or natural pesticides in the food?
What is the book 📖 on the table?
Food for Life?
It looks like Tim's book 'Food for Life'
Food for Life Tim Spector lol! The marketing team must have advised on that…
Where can you buy organic frozen? I’ve looked but obviously in the wrong places.
@@jaqgriff9239 Where are you based in the world 🌎?
Probably cheaper to grow your own vegetables at this point
Canned food is actually bad for you. It usually contains BPA (bisphenol) or other plastics that line the can. The food is also piped into the can extremely hot, so the plastic would leach into the food. Also, canned beans are usually high in salt, which is not good for people with high blood pressure.
You don't eat all the salt in canned beans, salt can be washed out of them if absolutely necessary, and I know of no peer reviewed study demonstrating any risks associated with BPA linings in canned goods.
Eek. I'm disturbed about rice and oats. I usually buy only Australian rice. I drink oat milk. As I try to buy only organic I'm disturbed by this. I have a raw food diet and wash what veges aren't with fruit and vege wash. I finally have a solution to the poisonous water in our taps.. I distill what I drink, and the residue is appalling. Smells bad, lots with powder left, and morgellons. Morgellons are clear strands that burrow into your skin and lungs. Not natural, as microscopically resemble twisted twine. Another fallout from chem trails. They are deadly. Its appalling that, add a bit of water and they completely disappear visually, the water looks clean. My distiller will show residue even from bottled water, fresh springs and tank water. We can only do the best we can.
Oh not again isnt any food.ok
What about potatoes: repeatedly sprayed through whole growing season. And CARROTS!!