Good stuff, Jon. Dunno how I missed this when it was posted. I love the animosity Steim's wage created with the UNL staff, AND THE U LISTENED .... lol.
This brings to mind the 1997 season, and the game that was never played; Huskers vs Michigan for the Nattie. Setting my bias aside, I think we would have beaten them, possibly embarrassing them as badly as we did the Gators a couple of years earlier. I agree...it's too easy to claim titles, based on " shoulda, coulda, woulda" metrics. Takes a LOT more than that to be a legit champ!
They are weird. I may do more research on where they came from after the channel grows. That is the 1902 Nebraska team, and I suspect they were made locally.
Jon, I'd love to see a video about the history of recruiting. When was the first Football Scholarship? When did recruiting change from looking for the most Athletic guys on campus to scouting high-schoolers?
Great video! I’ve always been interested in this subject matter & you are bringing so many stories that I enjoy. Would you be interested in doing an episode on the 1922 West Virginia University football team? They were undefeated, 10-0-1, winning more games than any other team in the nation. They beat Pop Warner’s Pitt Panthers & won a bowl game. WVU does not claim a national championship; the Mountaineers have the dubious distinction of the winningest team in the nation without a national championship. However, many in the mountain state feel they should claim 1922. Your time & efforts are appreciated. Keep up the good work. 🙂🏈
In regards to losing out on the Rose Bowl and not rewarding Jumbo Stiehm with a pay raise, Homer Simpson said it best: "Those ivory tower egg heads have screwed us again."
As in most things, the organizational structure lags behind the game itself. A team from the prairie couldn't possibly be as good as Harvard, Yale and Penn! Also giving the power to the faculty on salary and playing in the Rose Bowl sounds crazy in today's world. Sadly it's always the players and coaches who pay the price.
Interesting. I think these retroactive championships are a bunch of B.S. Who in the ncaa declared these? Also, I would add a couple more "question" years. How about the 1983 season (1984 bowl) when Nebraska had to play a team for the title in the opponent's home stadium? Or the 1993 season (1994 game)? I lived in the south then, where reporters stated outright that officials had cheated Nebraska out of the win against FSU, in their calls toward the end. And the co-championship in 1997? Yes, Michigan had a great defense, but Nebraska's was right up there too. And Nebraska also had a great offense, while Michigan's offense ranked down in the 50's somewhere. Las Vegas doesn't always get it right, but they picked Nebraska by 7 if there had been a game. But here's the rub: Michigan refused to play Nebraska in a bowl to settle it on the field. They wouldn't back out of the rose bowl to play their patsy.
Alabama claims the 1973 national championship. Buy UPI which was given to them before the bowl game. That they lost to undefeated Notre Dame. So the AP picked Notre Dame as a national champion. So that shouldn't count for Alabama. And they know that. So that's another one they don't deserve. Now Notre Dame claims 11 national championships. And then there's another 11 unclaimed national championships. So there's 22 if we want to be like Alabama. But I think most Notre Dame fans are happy with our 11.
Michigan would have whooped Nebraska in 97 - with Michigan's defense (woodson) that wishbone nebradka would have gotten negative yardage for the game ( there is a reason the nfl doesn't use it )
@YoWhatGoesHere you don't know what you're talking about nebraska did run the wishbone in 97 - I just watched Texas vs nebraska in 97 and ran the wishbone all day - nice try to lie tho
@scottdebrestian9875 triple option - wishbone whatever my point remains a great defense like Michigan would have shut it down - there's a reason the pros don't use it and nebraska's qb that year ( scott frost ) didn't get drafted as a qb but as a db
College Football and national titles really has only cleared up in this century. I honestly don't fault any teams that has a good argument for a national title claiming it before WW2 and in a few cases after. Certainly in a year like 1997 or 1966 it would be unfair to claim only one national champion. The NCAA of course has declared champions from the past. The AP poll didn't start until 36 I believe. Of course you've had so many polls after since then. Although modern college football has lost some of it's specialness compared to the arguements and mythical matchups of the past, but the national champion question has been settled.
Good stuff, Jon. Dunno how I missed this when it was posted. I love the animosity Steim's wage created with the UNL staff, AND THE U LISTENED .... lol.
This brings to mind the 1997 season, and the game that was never played; Huskers vs Michigan for the Nattie. Setting my bias aside, I think we would have beaten them, possibly embarrassing them as badly as we did the Gators a couple of years earlier. I agree...it's too easy to claim titles, based on " shoulda, coulda, woulda" metrics. Takes a LOT more than that to be a legit champ!
Nice work
Thanks! I do appreciate it!
Those face guards are so interesting!
They are weird. I may do more research on where they came from after the channel grows.
That is the 1902 Nebraska team, and I suspect they were made locally.
Jon, I'd love to see a video about the history of recruiting. When was the first Football Scholarship? When did recruiting change from looking for the most Athletic guys on campus to scouting high-schoolers?
egad. That would be interesting... but probably take a while. I'll put it on the list!
Great video! I’ve always been interested in this subject matter & you are bringing so many stories that I enjoy.
Would you be interested in doing an episode on the 1922 West Virginia University football team? They were undefeated, 10-0-1, winning more games than any other team in the nation. They beat Pop Warner’s Pitt Panthers & won a bowl game. WVU does not claim a national championship; the Mountaineers have the dubious distinction of the winningest team in the nation without a national championship. However, many in the mountain state feel they should claim 1922. Your time & efforts are appreciated. Keep up the good work. 🙂🏈
I will put them on the list!
Interesting Analysis. Could you say similar things about Dobie's UW teams?
Yes. Because the game was so regional there were a lot that ended up undefeated. It all depends on what you want to claim.
In regards to losing out on the Rose Bowl and not rewarding Jumbo Stiehm with a pay raise, Homer Simpson said it best: "Those ivory tower egg heads have screwed us again."
Great video. THX 4 info.
As in most things, the organizational structure lags behind the game itself. A team from the prairie couldn't possibly be as good as Harvard, Yale and Penn! Also giving the power to the faculty on salary and playing in the Rose Bowl sounds crazy in today's world. Sadly it's always the players and coaches who pay the price.
how about a video on the 1940 cornell verses dartmouth game
Thank you for this.... I am working on this.
Did football season end before basketball season started back in Stiehm's day? Otherwise, how could you coach both teams at the same time?
Football season back in the day tended to end at Thanksgiving for everyone, and then basketball started after that.
@@CollegeFootballHistory Gotcha, thanks.
Interesting. I think these retroactive championships are a bunch of B.S. Who in the ncaa declared these? Also, I would add a couple more "question" years. How about the 1983 season (1984 bowl) when Nebraska had to play a team for the title in the opponent's home stadium? Or the 1993 season (1994 game)? I lived in the south then, where reporters stated outright that officials had cheated Nebraska out of the win against FSU, in their calls toward the end. And the co-championship in 1997? Yes, Michigan had a great defense, but Nebraska's was right up there too. And Nebraska also had a great offense, while Michigan's offense ranked down in the 50's somewhere. Las Vegas doesn't always get it right, but they picked Nebraska by 7 if there had been a game. But here's the rub: Michigan refused to play Nebraska in a bowl to settle it on the field. They wouldn't back out of the rose bowl to play their patsy.
The Man Eating Mammoths.
Alabama claims the 1973 national championship. Buy UPI which was given to them before the bowl game. That they lost to undefeated Notre Dame. So the AP picked Notre Dame as a national champion. So that shouldn't count for Alabama. And they know that. So that's another one they don't deserve. Now Notre Dame claims 11 national championships. And then there's another 11 unclaimed national championships. So there's 22 if we want to be like Alabama. But I think most Notre Dame fans are happy with our 11.
Michigan would have whooped Nebraska in 97 - with Michigan's defense (woodson) that wishbone nebradka would have gotten negative yardage for the game ( there is a reason the nfl doesn't use it )
Tell us you know nothing about this game without telling us you know nothing about this game. Nebraska didn't run the wishbone offense.
@YoWhatGoesHere you don't know what you're talking about nebraska did run the wishbone in 97 - I just watched Texas vs nebraska in 97 and ran the wishbone all day - nice try to lie tho
@@KenWesaw-up5wf They did not. They were an option team. By 1997 only Army still ran the wishbone.
@scottdebrestian9875 triple option - wishbone whatever my point remains a great defense like Michigan would have shut it down - there's a reason the pros don't use it and nebraska's qb that year ( scott frost ) didn't get drafted as a qb but as a db
@@KenWesaw-up5wfNebraska never ran the wishbone in their history. You’re thinking of Oklahoma and Texas.
College Football and national titles really has only cleared up in this century. I honestly don't fault any teams that has a good argument for a national title claiming it before WW2 and in a few cases after. Certainly in a year like 1997 or 1966 it would be unfair to claim only one national champion. The NCAA of course has declared champions from the past. The AP poll didn't start until 36 I believe. Of course you've had so many polls after since then. Although modern college football has lost some of it's specialness compared to the arguements and mythical matchups of the past, but the national champion question has been settled.
I go back to the AP Poll where I think they start being valid.