IS THE RUBICON XTREME RECON PACKAGE ON THE 2023 WRANGLER WORTH IT?
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NOTES FROM MAKING THIS VIDEO:
Xtreme Recon Package Includes
17" x 8" Beadlock Capable Wheels
35 Inch Tire Suspension
BF Goodrich All Terrain LT315/70 R17C Tires
Performance 4 Wheel Disc Brakes
4.56 Rear Axle Ratio
3rd Gen HD Dana Front Axle M210 Wide Heavy Duty Tube Front Axle
Hinge Gate Reinforcement
Jack Spacer
Tire Relocation Kit
Wheel Flare Extension
6,100 LB GVW Rating
Xtreme Tire Height: 34.4" H x 12.4" W
Standard Rubicon Tire Height: 32.7" H x 11.2" W
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6 3/4" Sway Bar Link Standard
7 3/4" Sway Bar Link Xtreme Recon
Overall Height Xtreme Recon 75 1/2"
Overall Height Standard Rubicon 73 1/2"
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Great Review. Just bought a '23 Rubicon without the Extreme Recon Package. This looks like a great package but the standard Rubi was fine for me.
Just took delivery of my 2023 Rubicon with Xtreme recon package. I'm so happy it came with the 24 bolt wheels instead of the 10 like in this video. I didn't even realize they had different sets of wheels for the same package.
Didn’t realize different wheel pattern I have the 24 bolt too.
@@Mkluthe It's unfortunate either way that these are just aesthetic bolts and not actually bead lock. I got screwed and got the 10 at the bottom of each snowflake - oh well, I wanted new rims anyway.
@@HooHaaing beadlocks are not road legal in North America so Beadlock capable wheels with a Rock Ring/bead protector makes perfect sense. At least You still have the Beadlock option if you choose to buy new rings.
Good luck trying to get your $20,000 Dealer Markup you just THREW away LOL
Great job on this video, what a steal for 4K
Great job on this video, Brett. Lots of information...very helpful.
Thanks Jon!
I searched for kind of this video long time ,to find the difference between normal rubicon and Rubicon with extreme Recon. Thanks for this video and the details information you provided
Glad it helped you out. I have a more in-depth review on my main channel at czcams.com/video/QG8AZYiXPBc/video.html
I think that video is just is good. I am going to try and keep this channel more personal reviews so it does not crossover my main work channel as much.
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Bought the same unit in 😊Silver. Absolutely love it. 35 pkj is great.
Xtreme Recon is the best option for getting the HD front axle in a non Rubicon Jeep. It’s such a great upgrade to the vehicle on top of the wheels and big brakes. You can’t go wrong IMO
One thing would make it better,being able to order that package with the 6spd manual transmission
This video has really helped me…. Thank you
Glad I could help you out!
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!!
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I'm a 2dr guy, but can't imagine wanting this package from factory if it had been available when I got my JLR. I'm glad it exists though, because I bought those fender flares from mopar on sale and they turned out to be my favorite cosmetic upgrade. So minimal, but makes the stance that much beefier, especially on an already chunky 2dr. The fitment is probably going to look awesome when I finally upgrade to 35s or 37s in the next year.
It has the JT Mojave front diff which has heavier axle tubes and steel knuckles rather then aluminum like the regular Rubicons and Gladiators. There is also a special raised rear track bar bracket on the rear.
Looks really good I’m getting one
Great video 👍
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Awesome!
very good details
Good job!
Thanks!
Little known to the public is an axle option only available on the Rubicon ( I think,) which are the factory Ultimate Dana 44 axles. They're larger diameter, thicker walled axle tubes with better gussets and webbing, and best of all, no FAD. Plus, I think they have chromoly steel axle shafts. Maybe this is just rumor, but I believe it to be a real thing.
LED package should come standard on that vehicle. Crazy.
The elephant in the room on the 2023 was they got rid of the 25 bolt bead lock capable wheel and swapped it for a 10 bolt. There seems to be a pretty big uproar going online because the website supposedly still advertises the original. It’s a cheap money grabbing move by Jeep imo and they didn’t even decrease the price.
Agree. This week people are taking delivery of their gladiator rubicons and they don’t have the fox suspension. People are pissed. Jeep is cheeping out
I believe they're the same wheel, but they have different outer rings. You can buy the rings and the 25 bolts, but they're pricey.
@@victorandrade7940 they are, but this is a trick to cheap out on the bolts and they’re also forcing the owner to buy another outer ring to accommodate
@@NemeanLion- Not really. They probably thought people wouldn't care or wouldn't think it looked bad. It saves them a lot of money on the bolts and having to drill less holes. The older XRs used 125 bolts for all 5 wheels and they're not necessary. The beadlock kit comes with the longer bolts and ring. The bolts and rings are not functional without the beadlock kit.
@@victorandrade7940 they would have to buy another outer ring to accommodate if we’re talking about looks. A lot of people who buy the extreme recon package like the look of 25 bolt set up, not the 10 bolt. My point is, if they are going to make those kinds of cutbacks on a product that they advertise, they should also cut back on the price of it to accommodate.
Great information
Thanks for the comment! Glad I could help!
Now I know it's a good deal
The package is definitely worth it considering that’s what just the tires and wheels would cost if you went and bought them.
I just bought this exact Jeep 🤩but with 6k miles on it. Got a great deal.
Nice!!
Needs led lighting group, trust me I have same build in a 22’ I had to buy the led headlights and fender drls after the fact, it’s criminal they still put halogens in a 60k vehicle. Otherwise awesome Jeep
I totally agree
Same thoughts on the headlights. You'd think Jeep would make them standard on Wranglers period.
I've got the LED lighting group (standard) on my Sahara 4xe. They are some of the best OEM headlights I've ever seen. Great light pattern, and I don't get high-beamed by oncoming drivers.
The best mod I’ve done to my 2015 JKU has been replacing the horrible headlights with JW Speaker. I am shocked that those garbage lights are still being used on the current models! I’m guessing most people are opting for the led lighting when they order. That’s certainly the first box I’d check.
My 2023 rubicon X came with all led lighting
The only thing "Extra" you get is fender flares and a gate reinforcement bracket. A stock jeep already cones with brakes, suspension, gears and tires. 4.56 gears don't cost any more than 3.73 gears. The tires are probably a couple hundred dollars more but not 4k. Could you buy a stock jeep and upgrade all these things for 4k? Maybe not but everything you removed you could sell.
Is it worth the 4k? That depends. Are you going to upgrade to 37s in the future or will you just leave it as it? Is definitely worth it for jeep. It cost them next to nothing because they just install different parts on the assembly line that are different but not necessarily more expensive. You're not getting 2 sets of tires, gears, brakes and suspension components... But you're paying for two sets. Jeep knows what it cost in parts and labor to upgrade all this stuff in the aftermarket and as long as they beat that price they will sell the Extreme recon package and make a killing doing it. In my opinion this is how a Wrangler Rubicon should be built to begin with. ;)
good info
Glad it was helpful!
What sucks bout this package is that you can't get the Jeep in a manual
Definitely worth it if no additional changes planned (additional lifts or 37+ tires). Otherwise it's pointless - gonna have to re-gear again.
Wish they made this version in a 2 door
That would be sweet!
Jeep, the only car in 2023 that doesn't come with standard led lights.
So true
That's false.
@@XploreAz this is true, I meant the "so true" ckmment as they should really make the leds standard. I read his comment wrong. You are correct pretty much every manufacturer still makes cars without leds
Dont forget about the remote start, electronic locks, alarm system, and automatic windows
Jeep owners might want to put their own custom lights in. So they leave it up to the consumer to choose. A lot of people customize from scratch.
Nice review as usual. I have a quick question. I have a 4xe rubicon body color. The inside of the large hard top penal, when I touched the surface of the white fiberglass, my hands were white with particles and the dusts dropped over the seats. It is so different from the two pieces hard tops in the front seats which is smooth and finished. Is it normal or is it unfinished? Thank you.
The front and rear pieces should be the same design/consistency. Could have just never been wiped off at the factory. I would get a damp rag and wipe down the inside of the back panel. If it keep happening you may have a warranty claim to start. I hope this helped!
the rims are not wide enough for the size of the tires ,,i own the 2021 rubicon on the logo..?
The taillights are also spaced out a little wider with XR package is the only thing you missed.
Where did you get that information? I didnt see that in any of my research.
@@Circleofcycles2 they have them spacers on them.
Here’s a video. Showing it. czcams.com/video/DCVGAi1B4Xo/video.html 1:40mark.
I just watched the video you tagged. Sure enough. Went to this one on the lot and they are different. Doing a video later today on my main channel on a white one.
@@Circleofcycles2 I blame Jeep, Chrysler, Stellantis whatever they are calling themselves these days. They should list everything it would show the value of the XR.
I’d get one but the price in Australia is just udder ridiculous
Do you need to regear if you decide to get smaller tires after?
If you want better fuel mileage I would imagine so
What is a real shame is that you cannot get this wheel and tire package on a two door jeep wrangler it’s only available on a four-door not everybody wants or needs or believes a Wrangler should have 4 doors and jeep has done a lousy of limiting options and features to just the four-door, including the 392 hemi
Might be worth it on the Ruby, but lesser models it won’t offer lockers…..
I'm new and love your channel. I've been thinking of getting a 4 door Rubicon. I have a cabin up in the mountains in Greer AZ. As you can imagine, up there lots of snow during the winter. I do have a question and like to know your opinion. I'll be only going to my cabin once a month and I need a 4x4 during the wintertime. I definitely want a Rubicon, but 90 or 95 percent of the time will be city driving. Does it make since to have an extra set of wheels & tires for city driving. I then can always change back to the all-terrain tires for if and when I go back up to my cabin? Thank you and I'll be watching your channel.
It depends how much you want to spend and how much you drive total. If you don't drive a ton I think you would be fine with just the all terrains driving around the city, however if you drive a ton in the city it doesn't pay to wear down the specific all terrain tires for just commuting. You could get a cheap set of Sport wheels and tires for the city. It is actually really cheap to get OEM Wrangler Wheels. in fact I have a set of Sahara 18" Wheels for sale and I can't give them away for $100! It is crazy. So you would really only spend a lot of money on tires, but my bet would be you could get a take off set of wheels and tires off a sport for under $500. Maybe check with your local Jeep dealer they might have some just laying around or watch FB Marketplace. Yeah now that I think about it you should be able to get a cheap set of takeoff OEM wheels and tires. Just be aware of the Speedometer difference when you put smaller Tires on your Rubicon!
Can you add Total recon to the Jeep that you have already purchased?
Im sure you can get all the parts and install and recalibrate the speedo and change the gears out, but you wont be able to do it cheaper than the factory package here and it wont have a warranty.
@@Circleofcycles2 I would like to get it from the dealership so it would cover by warranty is it possible to order it from the Jeep website also, the sky one touch top I just don’t know where to start looking
How wide is this at its widest point? Mirror to mirror or fender to fender? Seeing if it’ll fit in the garage.
Will have to measure 1 tomorrow
@@Circleofcycles2 thank you! It’s hard to find a answer and there are none I can measure on the dealer lots.
I measured Friday on our High Tide. It was between 78" and 78 1/2" from front fender edge to front fender edge, which is slightly wider than the mirrors
@@Circleofcycles2 great. Thank you for doing that for me!
Wow did you see how low the coolant levels were. So if that’s new will they top that off?
They are supposed to check that on road ready, but could just be that it was cold. I will have someone check it Monday.
It’s 4K but then u have to get an auto trans lol. Now it’s 6k.
I got rid of my 24' cause it leaked like every US made vehicle I've owned in my 68 years )-; Damn!
Thats crazy. All I own are us vehicles and only had 1 leak because of a bad seal on a 3rd brake light on my truck.
Sorry. I'm talking Trans leak.@@Circleofcycles2
The xtreme package will be made better with the Hurricane engine 2024 straight 6 twin turbo charged, 500 hp and lots of torque.
The FIAT Rubicon
Wow! Never heard that one, Dave.......
@@wilburpost7977 Chrysler, Dodge, Ram and Jeep are owned by FIAT.
Everyone on the planet knows FIAT can build only POS vehicles
Why is he holding the cup the entire time? Strange
Love coffee
@@Circleofcycles2 Reminds me of Julian from the show Trailer Park Boys. lol. Epic.
I have 315 70 17 on both of my 2015 Rubies 2 1/2 lift
Tires are $1,800 the lift is not $2,000
When you factor in labor, calibration, gears, and absolutely every that goes into this package it would be extremely hard to do it for less than the $3,995 aftermarket. Plus you dont get a warranty on everything.
Jeep needs to super charge or turbo that old v6,
Ive been thinking that for years.
Well detailed presentation. But seriously Dude, just lose the cup!
But coffee......
I wish they actually had a truck engine
They put the 3.6L in the trucks. More horsepower though. They also put the 6.4L Hemi in a Wrangler. The 392 Package.
Get a diesel.
Get the diesel. The torque that thing makes is intoxicating.
@@tlaselva 442 torque i believe
I have the 3.0 Ecodiesel in mine. It’s a truck.
456 gears would be a lower gear not a higher gear🙈
Still comes with the plastic bumper
you go wrong am sure
No... with prices the way they are now, nothing is worth purchasing new.
What's BS is making you pay 4250 for the auto transmission when there's no other choice! Just get the Willys and save 10K
Why do you lie to people yo? 24 mph on the highway? In their dreams. 19 city? LMAO. The only time I got higher than 17 on the highway was when I drove cross country. It got to 19. 30 hours of driving. it's never gonna be 19/24. more like 12/17.
I just read what the sticker says lol
At what speed is the mileage calculation? That is the flaw of the EPA numbers. They don't list the speed of the highway driving.
At 62mph, my old '96 Jeep ZJ gets 24mpg, at 70mph 19mpg. At 62mph my '16 Ram 1500 Ecodiesel gets 33mpg or more, 70mph 22mpg. At 62mph my wife's '18 Ram 2500 Cummins powered pickup gets 26mpg or more, 70mph 20mpg. My 2020 Dodge Durango at 62mph gets 26mpg, 70mph gets 22mpg.
At 52mpg, the fuel economy is quite a bit higher for all the vehicles I listed.
Good luck with that very expensive Fiat.
Lol
Ridiculous Markup Pricing by Dealers... It will about 8 to 10 years to get your Markup money back.. Enjoy
Not really sure what you are talking about. I know all the high tides we have we have 2 or 3 grand off msrp.
My local dealer is amazing. They price lock it when you order no matter if jeep changes their pricing. Then when it comes in you can get any rebates and any discounts you may have through work or whatnot. Oh and absolutely no markups on any vehicle and they have about every manufacturer in a mile radius.
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