Joel (the ex boyfriend/cop) almost immediately believing her about something weird going on and willingly helping her with anything she asks… is so refreshing for a horror movie. Everyone else in the movie didn’t believe her and most characters in horror movies disregard the main character’s issues
Because he's the only one she came to with anything resembling evidence. Once he saw the pattern for himself there was something to latch onto. Everyone else she wanted to take her at her word which is ridiculous to ask of someone. She herself didn't take her patient at her word in the beginning.
100% Facts! Just goes to show you, people see,think, and select what they want to believe; ignoring obvious. As you said she showed her ex something tangible, and show her ex this evidence before her current boyfriend? But that's me being selective....
To me, the downer ending actually underlies an important message regarding mental illness and how dismissal from society often leads to help come too late. Yes, Rose not being able to beat the curse does harm the "overcoming trauma" message, but all throughout the movie, people saw those mentally disturbed as "crazy", "psycho", and "nuts", while the victims cried for help. In the end, where no one believed Rose or cared to understand her despair, along with her masking her pain by always being "just fine", the curse, a metaphor for her trauma, consumed her entire being, and ended her: i.e. the help she desperately needed came too late, often sadly the case in today's society.
@@cademancaden Thank you, appreciate that! I’m not a fan of downer endings for the sake of just being depressing myself, but here it serves its own purpose and message that I feel is just as strong, maybe stronger, than if Rose had overcome the curse.
@@ChadKing69 Found the redditor lmao Nah more like I’m in my late twenties and “I’m fine” was my catchphrase for years before I finally sought help, so this story hits close to home. Take care of yourselves everyone 🫶
I liked the bleak ending, because to me, it's unfortunately more realistic. She ignored her trauma until it completely consumed her, and when she DID try reaching out, she was told that she was crazy, her sister cut off contact, and her own fiance started treating her like a wild animal who could go off at any point. By the point someone understood enough to care to help (her ex, the cop,), it was too late. She fought, but ultimately ended up losing. Which is a sad reality for lots of people. I get why people would want a more positive and hopeful outcome, but I think both ends of the coin are important to portray.
As someone who has been through depression, it does matter that when you put in the work, you see progress. The ending was a slap in the face. XD like, oh, you got over your trauma? Too bad, so sad, .... die.
Yet she didn't think it was hopeless, yes she had trauma she didn't deal with, but she wasn't suicidal and tried until the entity just killed her. So it was less "she thinks she's got no way out," and more "supernatural being kills her." Both endings are realistic, in the sense that some people believe it's hopeless and end themselves, and others believe there's hope and keep on living. She didn't portray being hopeless.
I love this ending. To me it it shows how suffering can be transferred from one person to another, whether they intended to or not. It's like a drowning person who drowns the person trying to save them.
idc what the general message is because the movie is overall trashy. Having a message is important but not at the cost of competent writing. If you can't write a good story than you can't deliever or write a good message
@@kogascool I mean not necessarily. Because even though it's not a pleasant thought it's true. But at least by knowing that we can pass on suffering we can be aware to try and do better for others in our life. You know what I mean?
I think the ending of the movie-- while definitely a slap in the face to everything it was SEEMINGLY trying to say-- is still a real message. Sometimes people do not win their fight with mental illness. Sometimes people don't get saved and their loss leaves those they care about wondering why - even when they tried to do things right or it seemed like they were improving - they ended up still feeling like ending everything was their only way forward.
I think it's important to touch on that, that sometimes things can get better and then take a turn again, in fact I think that's very common? There's ups and downs, I do believe things get better with proper treatment and time, but there will always be bad days, the thing to remember is there will always be good days again as well, you have to decide to stick around for them.
Absolutely! I struggle with pretty severe mental illness and the sad reality is you don't always beat it. I've lost people to it and it could be my end. That fact makes the movie even scarier.
The fact that Rose goes back to Joel's place before realising she's still at her childhood house could very well reflect how mental illness doesn't simply disappear and can re-surface at any given point. Perhaps she did burn the house down during one of her outbursts, but if she was somehow rejected by Joel after she sought refuge in him once her outburst was over, it could have resulted in yet another outburst. This would simply reset all her progress and get her back to the metaphorical house, where this time she was unable to overcome her traumas. Trauma doesn't just disappear, it's a dark pit where you could fall into at any moment, that forces you to tread carefully in life and conditions you to stay alert of the many factors that could have you fall into isolation or depression. She might have one one battle, but she lost the war.
It might also be a point that you can ask for help from the wrong people in the end, who while well meaning and want to see you improve, just aren't trained enough to be of any meaningful impact.
I listened to the Dead Meat podcast episode about smile and James and Chelsea said they think the point is that you’re supposed to deal with your trauma as soon as possible and not push it aside until it’s consumed you. During the movie you’ll hear the main character tell everyone that she’s fine but she’s clearly not fine, as if she’s trying to bury her pain and is afraid to open up about it. Maybe what the movie was getting at was that that’s not a good coping strategy. If her burning down the house was supposed to symbolize her dealing with her trauma then the fact that she ends up back in front of the intact house means she didn’t actually face her trauma after all
This is a good point considering the earlier seen with rose’s therapist where she says maybe she can’t heal the scar from her past but she can find a way to deal with it. She confronted her past and that’s the typical thing that people say you should do to trauma but sometimes that doesn’t work. Sometimes you confront the shitty situation you were put in earlier and life and you come out of it still thinking it’s shitty. She confronted her guilt but that didn’t magically make it go away. It’s still there, she still feels like a terrible person as evidenced by the fact she said at the end that she’s worried someone might see what’s really there. She’s admitting she thinks she’s a terrible person. She’s basically given into the trauma and made herself believe that she’s a terrible person. This inner image of herself is also clearly not true. Earlier in the movie it was mentioned that she treated someone without insurance which cost the hospital a lot of money and also put her in a bad spot in her job. She tried to help someone that no one else wanted to help which can be seen as a hallmark of a good person. Overall the ending makes sense to me as commentary showing how much more complex dealing with trauma is than most people believe
Maybe it's also about how, for some people, the struggle against suicidal ideation is not really something that a single breakthrough moment can deal with. It's a constant fight that sometimes rear its way back into your life in moments of weakness or vulnerability. For some people it may be like a chemical or gambling addiction. You're never really free of it, and you must continue to treat it and fight it in order to keep it in check
They think the point is that you're supposed to deal with your trauma as soon as possible and not push it aside until it's consumed you. During the movie you'll hear the main character if she's trying to burn her pain and is afraid to open up about it. Burning down The House was supposed to symbolize her darling with her trauma then fact that she endes up back in the front of the track the house and track the house I mean she actually face her trauma after all
I've been wondering if she was suicidal before too because she was at work for days and not sleeping. Something was going on and she was burying it and refusing to deal with it.
The birthday party scene, where Rose falls backward onto the glass table and cutting her arms, does really well with toying with the idea that she's just crazy. The way she lifts her arms up staring at them for a moment before screaming at the top of her lungs in anguish.
@@WASTEOIDxyesss😂😂😂 me too. I immediately went back to that part where she couldn’t find her cat & plus we were never given an idea of what the gift was till that glass table scene 😂
I actually thought that her plan of "being alone" was for her to kill herself to save other potential victims of the curse/monster. But I thought it was a good movie. Better than what I have expected. I'd love to see a prequel to this movie with the Brazil incident as the premise.
The therapist scene got me, dude. I genuinely didn't think there was anything shady going on. So when the shoe dropped, it was genuinely tingles down your spine scary.
Now that I think about it, I think the curse was testing her to see if she would actually confront her trauma and get help but because she just kept saying she’s fine she essentially “failed”. That’s how I see that scene and it’s actually gave me chills
Felt like that scene in IT chapter 2 where Beverly visits her old house and meets Pennywise disguised as an old lady where they sit and drink tea, until the lady starts acting creepy
Its like that one line story where the dad goes to tuck his kid into bed, the kid asks him to check underneath the bed for monsters, and under the bed the kid is there and says someones in his bed.
@@masonjar9920 Yeah. But that is when you also have a serious Q and A with both of them to see which is the real one-don't want to abandon your child. May help to call in a significant other to double check whatever is said.
911 operator: “Are you alone? …are you sure?” oooh, that line sent chills down my spine. I loved it. I saw the movie twice. I was wondering what took you so long to make a video! I was worried you weren’t gonna make one.
After seeing the monster crawling into Rose's mouth it made me realize when Laura was choking earlier in the movie she was getting possessed by the demon before having that smile and killing herself I'm front of Rose. The ending while our main character doesn't win the message is clear: not everyone makes it through mental health issues such as depression which leads in them taking their own life but it doesn't mean you can't try to deal with your trauma and get better but it's not always the case
In the Laura therapist scene, Rose actually says "Laura, Look at me" before Laura looks at her and jumps to the floor, thats the same thing the entity was saying "look at me"
@@johnnycaralta well depression can kill you, by the way of suicide. Doesn't get any more serious. Is it possible to you belong to the staggering amount of people who think depression is just being in a bad mood?
One thing I noticed: Rose is approached by others offering her help, and Rose rejects them, maybe this is just how its presented in the video, but it kinda looks like Rose makes things worse for herself. This would track with the overall themes of the film: the difficulty in confronting your own demons, the apparent apathy of everyone around her, the struggle to find help, etc.
I think the point of the ending was Joel triggered her back into psychosis and that the mental illness (the monster) isn't something you beat but something you face every day. So Rose does overcome it briefly but her fear of commitment to Joel brings it back. That's why she survives longer than others and not everyone dies at the same time. Also the characters acknowledge every pattern except the family members or close friends deaths before the direct suicide chain relating to some kind of avoidance.
I think it was also a form of punishment she puts on herself when she stiffs Trevor, because Trevor was trying to do his best and she pushed him off because of that same fear. So it isn’t surprising when it happens again in much the same way but with Joel.
@@kogascool yes. He was trying his best. I know you’ve never had a relationship with someone that loves you before, but he was a very good fiancé. Sure he was overworked, but so was she, so that’s probably why they clicked. He did independent research to see if he could help her like that, he took her mental health very seriously, he begged her to take time off work, he asked her not to attend her nephew’s birthday if it was gunna cause her distress, he consoled her after she witnessed a traumatic event, and he asked her constantly, and I do mean CONSTANTLY, like annoyingly so, what he could do to help, AND SHE ALWAYS BLEW HIM OFF. Did you want him to rope her in the fucking moon???
@@KodamaoftheWeastTree there is so much wrong with what you said. Lol first no calling someone crazy is not helpful at all. Second no going into someone back round and study with out sitting then down and talking to them seem selfish. He was only thinking about his self. The whole point was none of them were listening to her. Something you didn’t get. It was supposed to represent how people carry on and worry about there own life and miss helping other. Oh and trying to come for me???? Really? How childish
@@kogascool the only thing childish here is how you watched this entire movie and still think most of these people in her life did anything wrong. I know you relate to the main character, but projecting your insecurities on her and then falling back on a victim complex when you’re forced to address these things isn’t helping you. Look internally before making this shit so evident lmfao
I think it does symbolize mental illness, specifically Depression/ Schizophrenia. And at end shows how some people don’t get over theirs but succumb to it. 😢 The monster, to me, is her Depression full blown and it going into her is her totally being overcome by it. Then in the end she commits suicide. The smile might be indicative of the “fake smile” that people with Depression (mental illnesses) usually show the world when inside they feel total despair. Just my opinion.
As a healthcare professional you are right.I think this movie is wonderful.I watched this movie so many times.I have cried because I feel bad for Rose. Experiencing trauma,trying to textbook take care of it, how as a therapist u take care of everyone else and just fake smile and push your trauma to the side. After all of this,no one ever believes someone going through a mental break.Ugh imma start crying
Honestly the best part of this movie for me was Rose's therapist. She's got enough time to take surprise walk-ins and do house calls. Lowkey wish my therapist had this much time on her hands
Idk why rose was annoyed by that, even when she said that she was worried about rose that's why she came to check her out, if i were rose, i would be so happy that someone cares so much about me It was very weird to see rose calling it an "invasion of privacy", like the therapist didn't come at night at 2 am lmao
I took the curse to be real when I saw this in theaters. When she realizes she needs to be alone and has the knife in the car I was thinking she was going to sacrifice herself, especially considering this happens right after the murder dream. So when the house starts to burn I figured Joel would arrive too late and find nothing left. I think this would've been a better ending as it could be taken as a cautionary tale against dismissing mental health issues while also having Rose beat the curse.
Well first off Rose was a complete dumb ass for not showing the recording of the Laura situation unfolding in the office “RoOse” if u hear it on a recorder most likely it is a real thing! She should have taken straight to whoever she deemed most trustworthy… second of all she LOOKED into Laura eyes I mean who the hell does that when their slitting their throat right in front of you PLOT DEMANDS it I guess but if were me I be like hell na bitch I ain’t bout see ya kys!!
For the ending, I feel like because she ran away from the burning monster, she still wasn’t able to face her fear and actions. I think had she not ran out that she would’ve actually been ok. Like a “take action before it’s too late” type of situation. Cause often when you reach out to someone or they try to get help, it’s sometimes too late. And I’ve seen people say that she shouldn’t have done it in front of the Ex but she had no idea he was gonna show up. I think once you lock eyes with the “person” it already has you in its grasp and you physically can’t look away.
I thought it was just easier to imagine a demon is out to get you than accepting you intentionally let your mother die. You're not a bad person, you just an innocent victim of a supernatural evil. All the other people that committed suicide also had previous traumas.
My thing was why did he continue to look when he figured out the pattern..? That’s the part that’s a bit blurry. The curse is “committing $uicide in front of someone w/ trauma watching.” Right? So if he walked in and noticed it why didn’t he run out or turn away to maybe not get cursed?
I think the point the ending was trying to make wasn't "confronting your trauma/fears is worthless." My takeaway is that you shouldn't neglect your trauma for so long that it becomes irreparable - we see in the movie that she tells people all the time that she's fine when clearly she isn't & it's ruining her relationships with people she loves. Backed up by the scene with her sister telling her she's just like her mom, she let her fears/trauma consume her.
For many ppl it’s definitely a good suggestion. In reality every individualis different from the person next to em. So it really doesn’t make sense that a singular method addressing trauma or fears in the early stages would be relevant for everyone. Ppls personality types can often predict how they’ll respond to certain situations too. Some ppl do better by busying themselves and letting the passing time be their way of treatment. Other ppl can be completely incapable of functioning w/o reflecting and addressing the issue. The message is 100% spot on tho showing that many ppl lose the battle within themselves in the end.
This movie was extremely gruesome to watch NOT because of the demon but because depression is a real life issue so to see a therapist (the person most likely to defeat that “monster”) lose at the end of the movie really made me shiver in fear. Also I wonder what would happen if a cursed person traumatized a whole group of people at once? Does everyone gets cursed? While these "one person at a time" horrors are good, I kind of want to see what a lot of people under this affliction would do.
I’d imagine the curse is aware of that. Maybe it intentionally kills them in front of one person, so if it’s with multiple, they’d might put their heads together and figure it out, and probably develop a bond to end it. Remember, when you’re depressed, you feel alone, and that’s what the curse feeds on.
@@maximillian875I disagree because the lone survivor mentioned he did his own research into it and the curse has other paths in other places. This implies that at some point, the curse infected multiple people who then went on to spread it to others. If it couldn’t infect multiple people then it would be impossible for multiple paths of infection to exist unless there’s multiple types of demons which could be possible as there are multiple reasons that people become depressed
Me personally I liked the ending of this movie cause no matter what she tried to do to stop the curse she still ended up finding no way to stop it. I hate seeing the main character always win. It gives a realist perspective of somethings you just can’t defeat.
True... but I don't think its really a good massage for people that deal with mental illness (or just anxiety issues in general) That you can't really beat the problem or at least make things to be better. And that's not a good massage to deliver,horor movie or not!
I think the end of the movie represents that trauma will always be there even if you confront it. It’s one thing to confront it and it’s another thing to live your life after you confront it. Moving on with life after confronting trauma is extremely difficult in it’s own right and I think a lot of people make the mistake of thinking that just because you confronted your demons that everything will just be okay after that when the reality is just not that simple. As someone who survived severe abuse from a parent, I can tell you that moving on with my life was by far the hardest part of the whole process and confronting the monster who did all of those horrible things to me wasn’t easy either but it was nowhere near the end of my journey to recovery. I might be reading into the movie way too much but I do appreciate that the film exists. If you know anyone who is going through mental anguish, please just show them that you care, sometimes the best thing for someone who’s going through mental issues is to just be heard and to know that someone cares. If you are going through mental issues, please don’t be afraid to ask for help, I did and I’m very happy I did, I’m living a much better life now, I know it’s cliché as hell but there is a light at the end of the tunnel and sometimes reaching out can help you get there. I never thought I would live past 21, I’m going to be celebrating my 27th birthday on Friday, I survived and I know if I can, you can too. Remember, everyone never be afraid to ask someone if they’re okay because you might save their life, I wish everyone a great day and many others.
the ending to me is fitting because nobody actually did anything to help her throughout the entire film. I think the message works since its basically saying that we cannot do it alone.
@@kogascool her therapist was good, her ex was trying, her fiancé was being lied to and blown off constantly, then she shut him out, at no point was he an ass or even unreasonable, dude, even he BOSS was trying to look out for her mental health. She put herself in the box she died in, she has no one to blame but herself for the outcome.
When i saw it in theaters, I was like "this is the cooler, older sister of It Follows". I also noticed that everyone who also died from the entity had seen a death when they were younger - Laura and her grandpa, the professor and his brother - and if I'm not mistaken they were suicides too. So it seems that when the entity says her mind was inviting, it hints at the childhood trauma that would make them more susceptible to its invasion once compounded upon by adulthood trauma. Makes you wonder what planning it puts into its victims.
I think the movie was trying to portray how alone people feel while dealing with extreme mental illness. How no one gets how they feel, and everyone thinks theyre crazy. The ending was perfect for that message, imo.
I think it can also be argued that, people can't be helped if they don't open themselves up to be helped. You see it multiple times that the main character just does not accept any of the helpful advise being offered, and only starts seeking out others when it's far too late, and noone is now qualified or in the know enough to understand, to provide any meaningful help.
@@DuelaDent52 It really can be too late, mental health isn't something you can just magically cure with a half arsed attempt, especially if you've allowed it to spiral out of control to the point that suicide is close to the table. The idea that people come back from the edge by simply doing bare minimum to get help, as the norm, is a fantasy we tell ourselves because it's still too taboo of a subject to be brutally honest about. In the case of this movie, she did everything wrong and chose the wrong people to get help from, which is often the case for people seeking help with their mental health. By the time she was seeking everyone's help, it was too late because she ha already ostracised them to the point they couldn't have any sort of context as to what sort of help was required.
Honestly this movie describes what suicidal people went through so well. How people start turning away when the mental illness/suicidal ideation intensified, how she couldn't help themselves but projecting these thoughts aloud/with her behaviour (which caused people to turn away), how people dismiss her repeatedly, how she kept denying it by saying she's fine. A friend of mine is like this too (sadly with little chance for solution as their problems stemmed from their body growing chronically ill + already existing mental illnesses). Yeah... this movie sadly described their struggle realistically (sans the supernatural monster).
I know, and that’s why the ending offends me so badly. Maybe I’m projecting too much of myself into the film, but I felt so… betrayed. And filthy. And it’s even worse because the director said he did pretty much solely to s u b v e r t e x p e c t a t i o n s and pull one over on the audience.
LOVED this movie, honestly one of the first horror movies I think since Hereditary which genuinely creeped me out multiple times. This and The Night House were both really nice surprises. I hope to see more from the director of this movie. I’ll definitely be watching whatever he makes next.
I genuinely found myself enjoying this movie, which surprised me as I'm not a big fan of most modern horror. It hit a lot of the heavy psychological beats that I was looking for but the ending just took me out of it. It felt so ridiculous that it set up a positive message of overcoming grief and then it undercut it completely
I watched this alone during a particularly low point of my life. Then I went to the pub afterwards and the atmosphere was melancholic. It really played on my mind. Things are no better now than they were then.
I knew as soon as the kid grabbed the box that the cat was in it. The dread, oh my god. And then I was like lol that cat looks fake. But then Sosie sold the grief so hard, I instantly felt it in my chest. She did such a great job here. All the "nepo baby" critics seriously need to leave her alone.
it's not just copying off "it follows" it's also copying off of "hereditary" "the ring" "The grudge" and "IT" the whole "traumatic" experience or "fear" response is talking about something in particular that affects people in real life.
I'm probably biased because I went through almost the exact same thing with my own mother. I was in tears at the end because I resonated to much with Rose. I have so much guilt about my mom's death. Granted, I was not as young as Rose was when my mom did pass. But it's something I'm still dealing with because I basically left my mom drunkenly crying in her bed when I told her I was moving to live with dad. About two weeks after that, we got the call... I was really rooting for Rose to overcome this and I was absolutely devastated when she didn't. I know not everything has a happy ending, but this was the one time I really wanted that. Though I feel like I understand, to some extent, why they chose to go with the ending they did. I am curious if they shot an alternate ending.
I think the curse is supernatural. I was glad they didn’t go with the usual happy ending where everything works out. I would’ve been a little disappointed if they did. Depression/mental illness is bleak and feels hopeless & alone and that’s what this ending did. I enjoyed it.
As someone who suffers from mental illness and who knows people who suffer from mental illness, the ending not resolving in a good way doesn't really bother me as much because it feels very poignant. Sometimes, people can get closure, can get help, like therapy and meds and support from family and friends, and still succumb to their demons when they're sure it's all over. Etika is a good example of what I'm talking about. I have therapy, meds, and vitamins and I still struggle with symptoms of my mental illness, like overwhelming lethargy, low energy, low motivation, and depersonalization. This is not to say that Smile is the monolith for all mental illness and all people who live with it, but that sometimes the tools are not enough.
I was debating whether to watch it or not so I'm glad I watched this first. I don't think I can say "It Follows" was the scariest movie I've ever seen but it was certainly the most stressful. That movie f'd me up (Nightmares, waking terrors, etc.) the freaking soundtrack alone was insane. I definitely don't want to relive that experience...
@@Leoprincess3038 Agreed. Smile stuck to It Follows' rules better than It Follows did. I think people don't rate It Follows on what it actually is and they rate it on what it could've been.
It's that grating soundtrack. I watched it in an empty theater so the sound was just booming. The ending was super disappointing but the first hour had my anxiety on the fritz.
I thought this movie was great, but by the end I was ready for the Demon to take me as well. I was mentally exhausted, like it had been chasing me the whole movie. 😄
The “you’re not listening thing” is actually accurate because I know someone that struggles with mental illness and fake delusions. They are always saying that.
The cat present scene really scared/shocked me, maybe because it's an animal death but it really shook me up. I was crying in the theater just because I didn't expect it at all.
@@thesansabasong-bird6947 horror movies are my favorite genre, I just wasn't expecting it, and got shocked, that's all. I love horror movies, but animal death is a lot in any movie not just horror.
*Spoiler warning An interesting thing I noticed after the second time I saw this. In the beginning Laura says it wears people’s faces. In the end the demon removes its own face to show its true form.
Personally, I loved Smile. It does a good job of continuously building up the horror of the situation, the music and acting are spot on, the effects are WAY better than I was honestly expecting (especially since I only saw the teaser to avoid spoilers) and while I agree that the ending doesn’t work in the story, it’s similar to Malignant in that it becomes so batshit crazy I can’t help but like it anyway.
@@forsak3n749 So, the whole story is about her dealing with trauma, right? Like, metaphorically, not literally, cause of the demon. So it shows her setting the thing ablaze, getting out, it seems fine…then it does a complete 180, she gets possessed, dies, and spreads the curse. I mean, as a “Gotcha!” moment, it works, I liked it at first cause I was just baffled by it. But then I thought about it, and it just doesn’t sit right with me that she has her little moment of glory, then dies anyway.
@@forsak3n749 And I understand the idea that it conveys the message that “sometimes help comes too late”, but if it was going for that, why did it go that far into making you think she won? I dunno, something about the execution just….feels wrong, to me. That’s just my opinion. I still REALLY like most of it… I just personally don’t like the ending.
@@eqWillibrium okay babygirly. Here is my response. What you fail to recognise is the fact that the demon is in-fact real and apart of the main story. Rose is dealing with trauma, which is caused by a literal demon haunting her. It’s right as you say. The movie has a powerful message, which is trauma and mental health. However, the way the movie chooses to convey that message is through the demon. The writers of the movie are very talented. I doubt they meant for the demon to just be a simple metaphor, all in the head of the characters. Notice how all the characters share similar experiences ie they see a loved one haunting them while smiling. They also commit suicide the exact same way. One of the characters also acknowledges the demon and informs Rose that the only way to get rid of it is to kill someone in front of a witness to pass on the curse to someone else. This tells us that the demon is real. It is not a metaphor for mental health.
@@forsak3n749 ok, 1.) Don’t be rude because we see different things from this movie. 2.) I’m aware the demon is real. It can be real, and serve as a metaphor. Yeah, she catches on quickly about the curse, but she knows she’s losing it and doesn’t know what’s real. And 3.) while her witnessing the suicide of that girl and getting the curse spread to her is traumatic, I’m referring to the trauma of her, as a little girl, standing in front of her mother, and watching her die, and doing nothing about it. She gets over that (to a degree) after she burns the monster alive, I’m just saying that it’s a weird tonal shift from her succeeding and being happy, to her then committing suicide and spreading a demon curse like 5 minutes later. The rest of the movie is fine. Great, even, which is why I still enjoy it. I’m just saying that the ending feels like it doesn’t know what it wants.
at the end when she inevitably fails it wasn't about "its hopeless don't bother" it was more that its not that easy to just say "im okay" the illusion of the house burning down was her thinking that she can just magically get better, it takes a significant effort to overcome mental illness because its a negative feedback loop, you need more energy than it gives you to break it, which is why having those around who see you is important honestly if her sister and her fiance kept her grounded instead of making her look crazy she probably could have beat it
I watched the short after the movie. You can see from that why Paramount Pictures contacted the director to make a feature length version. Though I like the set up of the premise (more simplistic) a bit more in the short. Plus that version actually made me jump! lol
@tjfrizzi5965 I think the short is worth viewing after seeing Smile. The movie stuck with me for a while. I worked in aba therapy and sometimes clients have what could appear to be unnatural emotions because they're masking and imitating the emotions of others around them. That kind of weirded me out after seeing the movie haha
I think they still killed her off specifically for the purpose of showing how trauma can transfer. The people who are there for those experiencing trauma end up getting hurt because of it and have to then navigate their own trauma. The concept of "hurt people hurt people" (someone who has been hurt will likely hurt others because of that pain)
Feels sorta like if this had been released 10 years ago there'd be an alternate ending on the DVD extras. But I like the ending it has for two reasons. First, the demon's design is great! Secondly, it made me wonder if things would've turned out differently if more than just one person had listened to her. Or the gal before her. Or the guy before her. And so on. Which could be part of the message. But I don't really go into a movie looking for a message. I'm just looking to be told a story, so I'm not the person to analyze.
It doesn't matter if I've seen a movie, don't plan to see it, hated it or seen another review of a movie I always come to this channel I just love FoundFlix ❤
The entire movie making industry needs an ideological overhaul. Too much political lecturing. Too much "Recycle already used formula". Too much creative laziness
@@iraqifoodcart8447 💯 everything feels lazy and a money grab. If it’s not that it’s pandering nobody asked for🤦🏽♂️. I remember movies would get talked about for months after release. Now it seems like a lot of trailer hype. Then the movie is average. Then people forget and wait for the next thing. Which will probably be some remake for nostalgia that doesn’t hold up. 🔁 🔁🔁
@@iraqifoodcart8447 Yup. People just LOVE being lectured to in their entertainment, and having political agendas shoved down their throats, during a time we are trying to escape from all the BS in the world. Lol.
seen some other channel do an ending explained for this since you hadn't upload yours yet, and they just sounded confused and kept time jumping all over the place. I'm happy you put yours up, sometimes I don't even watch the movies I just get the info from your channel lol
I just gotta say huge props to the guy who played the insane patient that gets stabbed. His performance and ability to really scare the viewer all throughout the film was phenomenal
At least the movie depicts what ppl with mental illness go through accurately. Everyone making you feel crazy and like you should hide it from ppl. Isolating the individual which only enables their mental illness to spiral even further outta control. Friends and family want to act like they are there for you but when you actually go to them and talk about not so nice things - like being depressed, having certain thoughts, opening up about voices and hallucinations, etc. when that’s brought up they immediately get uncomfortable and end up making you feel bad and it all just affirms that you can’t go to anybody for help.
I don't know, almost everyone in the movie tried to be helpful but were constantly being pushed away, to the point that when Rose figured out she really did need help, it was too severe for anyone to do anything about it, besides maybe having her committed to a psyche ward for her own safety. The problem that people seem to forget, is that unless you're trained individual (and even then that's not guaranteed to protect you as this movie showed), even trying to listen to someone with mental health issues, and be there for them, can in fact damage your own mental health and cause your own spiral.
@@insertname3977 So just ignore them, you can’t do ANYTHING for them, don’t even bother so you don’t get infected with their crazy and end up killing yourself as well and infecting other people with your trauma you gross selfish pile of damaged goods. Thanks, Smile!
@@DuelaDent52 You help someone with mental health issues by sending them to someone who's professionally trained, while being as supportive as you can without causing your own mental health to suffer. Anyone who expects more than this is frankly selfish and narcissistic, and far more toxic of an individual than someone who simply doesn't want to help at all. I'm saying this from experience as someone who drove a friend to suicide after relying too much on them for my own suicidal thoughts.
I cannot fall asleep tonight, and was in separate need of entertainment to keep me over for the next 3 hours. Thanks so much for continue to upload these horror movie analysis essays, especially today.
I'm kinda reminded how when I was in high school a kid hung himself, and afterwards a few people tried (fortunately failed) to ends their lives too. Once someone tells you it's an option it's a fight for your life against your own thoughts.
I later started to theorize that the sister's kid can see the entity. I don't see the kid reacting that way with the hard breathing unless he saw something horrifying unreal.
I enjoyed watching with my family.. I live in a neighborhood with a lot of stay at home moms and that birthday party fiasco is definitely the scariest scene through that lens
really enjoyed this movie. While not really an original plot, it's a great amalgamation if It Follows, The Ring, Oculus, Truth or Dare (2018), and Hereditary. I haven't seen many people make the comparison to Oculus, but the reason why I cite that film is that trying outwit an entity that can manipulate reality is ultimately a fools errand. The film kinda reminds me of A Classic Horror Story (2021) which was also an amalgamation of different horror film plots interwoven effortlessly and backed by great performances.
Could you go through raised by wolves? Great show, 2 seasons, canceled after a MASSIVE cliffhanger. I think you would like it and we need more exposure to get picked back up. Thanks mate, you're a legend. 🤘
I think the ending is more plausible. Accepting your trauma is not the same as being able to healthily live. Some people simply cannot successfully find motivation to live that is stronger than the drive to relieve their pain.
@@bobgunter9608 I could at least say inspired by. Calling it a rip off is a bit unfair. All the characters in this are awfully one dimensional though. I can see the parallels but at least it's somewhat original at least with the curse itself.
@happy2904 I feel like this was just a "scarier" version of the episode "Duck!" from the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy where a ghost duck kept farting around Mandy to drive her insane. Mandy seemed to handle that entity better than Rose handled the smiling creature.
I think the ending makes sense if "the curse" is a mental illness and not an actual "curse". Yes she faced her trauma and addressed her guilt...once. Facing your trauma once doesn't magically resolve it. It might be a good first step, but the trauma is still there. It takes time, reflection and gradual behavioural changes to unwrap the trauma and dissect it, to slowly convince the brain that "it's okay now." If "the curse" is a mental illness, then it makes sense that burning down the house didn't get rid of her hallucinations.
It was good to see modern horror that legit tripped me out. I had to watch some interviews with the cast to remind myself that I'm good lol. I found an interesting interview with Collider Interviews and the director, which answered a lot of my questions about the Lore. Really loved this one and look forward to seeing what else this director works on in the future.
First off I was say i love sosie's acting in this movie as this is the first i've seen her in anything. Now with that out the way gotta say I liked the movie with it's own look into trauma/mental illness and how it's passed down, very interesting. I also agree about the ending kind of undermining the journey but i was also taken back by it but in a good way. It was as if the movie was telling us "Oh yeah!, she finally got over her trauma with her mother but this is still a horror movie and look there's the entity" it was a gut punch and a welcome one i must admit as I actually liked rose.
Smile surprised me. While yeah it was predicted I will say I expected them to win in the end instead of losing but I think it’s a good watch for anyone who wants a creepy watch.
An intervention of only 2 people and one not related to me would genuinely make me sad. I'm glad I have family who loves and cares about and I'm very grateful
I loved this movie. Saw it in theaters bc the trailer was actually scary and I’m a huge Kyle Gallner fan. I didn’t expect the trauma aspect of it though and I didn’t expect to basically come out of it feeling like I went through a counseling session of sorts. It was a lot! Don’t see this movie if you have unresolved trauma issues! But it’s well done, even if the ending is a total downer.
Holy crap, the end of this movie really blew the whole thing. I LOVED the story, but the fact that she actually loses to this “curse”/disease in the end really sucked the wind out of my sails. What a chokefest, man.
i love this channel because i love when a film has symbolism and it is not so black and white. especially when the ending is up for interpretation, and seeing what others believe it means. it’s always amazing when a movie can make you think and have to wonder what it could mean.
I enjoyed the movie, but I do wish there were more scenes of seeing random people creepily smiling. Like at the grocery store, driving and seeing someone in another car, walking and seeing a random person from afar staring.. smiling. Because that, for me, was the creepiest part. I'd be so scared if that happened to me in real life. Just people anywhere anytime smiling staring, like that one guy that did the smiling and staring video. That was unnerving.
The curse is literally her failure to maintain her mental health causing other people misery. That's literally what her interaction with her mother demonstrates. It's what her mother did to her. It's what she does to Joel.
I’m someone who battles with mental illnesses such as chronic depression, anxiety, and schizophrenia and this is kind of what reality is like for me. People just don’t care and boils your trauma all down to you’re crazy as if it’s your fault for the things you have to deal with
The woman on the cover of smile and in the film - Laura. I was going I seen you somewhere then it hit me she used to star in the Australian soap Neighbours lol
I think the film sets up two possible sequels that have potential to be interesting. There’s the nephew who experiences a traumatic experience like rose did with her mom AND we have a possible sequel with the cop which could work out interestingly because he has more info than any of the other victims.
Joel (the ex boyfriend/cop) almost immediately believing her about something weird going on and willingly helping her with anything she asks… is so refreshing for a horror movie. Everyone else in the movie didn’t believe her and most characters in horror movies disregard the main character’s issues
Because he's the only one she came to with anything resembling evidence. Once he saw the pattern for himself there was something to latch onto. Everyone else she wanted to take her at her word which is ridiculous to ask of someone. She herself didn't take her patient at her word in the beginning.
That's because he was still in love with her and secretly wanted her back.
100% Facts! Just goes to show you, people see,think, and select what they want to believe; ignoring obvious. As you said she showed her ex something tangible, and show her ex this evidence before her current boyfriend? But that's me being selective....
Her fiance wasn't a real one
She even went to her sister with proper evidence, but she didn't wanted to listen, what a waste family.
To me, the downer ending actually underlies an important message regarding mental illness and how dismissal from society often leads to help come too late. Yes, Rose not being able to beat the curse does harm the "overcoming trauma" message, but all throughout the movie, people saw those mentally disturbed as "crazy", "psycho", and "nuts", while the victims cried for help.
In the end, where no one believed Rose or cared to understand her despair, along with her masking her pain by always being "just fine", the curse, a metaphor for her trauma, consumed her entire being, and ended her: i.e. the help she desperately needed came too late, often sadly the case in today's society.
Very well said & insightful.
@@cademancaden Thank you, appreciate that! I’m not a fan of downer endings for the sake of just being depressing myself, but here it serves its own purpose and message that I feel is just as strong, maybe stronger, than if Rose had overcome the curse.
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@@ChadKing69 Found the redditor lmao
Nah more like I’m in my late twenties and “I’m fine” was my catchphrase for years before I finally sought help, so this story hits close to home.
Take care of yourselves everyone 🫶
I’m glad it ended like this tho because it feels cool not every story ends happily
I liked the bleak ending, because to me, it's unfortunately more realistic. She ignored her trauma until it completely consumed her, and when she DID try reaching out, she was told that she was crazy, her sister cut off contact, and her own fiance started treating her like a wild animal who could go off at any point. By the point someone understood enough to care to help (her ex, the cop,), it was too late. She fought, but ultimately ended up losing. Which is a sad reality for lots of people. I get why people would want a more positive and hopeful outcome, but I think both ends of the coin are important to portray.
As someone who has been through depression, it does matter that when you put in the work, you see progress. The ending was a slap in the face. XD like, oh, you got over your trauma? Too bad, so sad, .... die.
Yet she didn't think it was hopeless, yes she had trauma she didn't deal with, but she wasn't suicidal and tried until the entity just killed her. So it was less "she thinks she's got no way out," and more "supernatural being kills her." Both endings are realistic, in the sense that some people believe it's hopeless and end themselves, and others believe there's hope and keep on living. She didn't portray being hopeless.
she gave a dead cat to a child bro she was insane
@@zacharycarrier2890she didn’t do that??
@@Galorrrreeeee did you not watch the movie
I love this ending. To me it it shows how suffering can be transferred from one person to another, whether they intended to or not. It's like a drowning person who drowns the person trying to save them.
I also thought of it like that but man is that a horrible message
idc what the general message is because the movie is overall trashy. Having a message is important but not at the cost of competent writing. If you can't write a good story than you can't deliever or write a good message
@@kogascool I mean not necessarily. Because even though it's not a pleasant thought it's true. But at least by knowing that we can pass on suffering we can be aware to try and do better for others in our life. You know what I mean?
The writing was so frustrating I didn’t even pick up on that. Mediocre story overall. But the acting was top notch.
yeah, true, it reminds of me of the children of holocaust survivors, they inherited a lot of stress and trauma from their parents.
I've heard Smile described as "jump scare: the movie" so I'm very excited to understand the plot without the unnecessary anxiety
It really isn't that bad with the amount of jump scares and they're actually pretty decently done
This movie thinks loud noise every five minutes is the height of horror. Worst horror film of the year for sure
It's a fine horror movie. This review is very creative content. But, a review or summary cannot replace the experience of watching the actual film.
@@ChadKing69 Nice hyperbole
Honestly i thought it was a well put movie with a concept we have already seen before.
Issue here is that the jump scares did affect me a lot
I think the ending of the movie-- while definitely a slap in the face to everything it was SEEMINGLY trying to say-- is still a real message. Sometimes people do not win their fight with mental illness. Sometimes people don't get saved and their loss leaves those they care about wondering why - even when they tried to do things right or it seemed like they were improving - they ended up still feeling like ending everything was their only way forward.
I think it's important to touch on that, that sometimes things can get better and then take a turn again, in fact I think that's very common? There's ups and downs, I do believe things get better with proper treatment and time, but there will always be bad days, the thing to remember is there will always be good days again as well, you have to decide to stick around for them.
Thats the theme i got from the movie.
or just a smile demon who knows
Yeah but in this movie 0 percent of people beat mental illness
They all kill themselves.
Absolutely! I struggle with pretty severe mental illness and the sad reality is you don't always beat it. I've lost people to it and it could be my end. That fact makes the movie even scarier.
The fact that Rose goes back to Joel's place before realising she's still at her childhood house could very well reflect how mental illness doesn't simply disappear and can re-surface at any given point. Perhaps she did burn the house down during one of her outbursts, but if she was somehow rejected by Joel after she sought refuge in him once her outburst was over, it could have resulted in yet another outburst. This would simply reset all her progress and get her back to the metaphorical house, where this time she was unable to overcome her traumas.
Trauma doesn't just disappear, it's a dark pit where you could fall into at any moment, that forces you to tread carefully in life and conditions you to stay alert of the many factors that could have you fall into isolation or depression. She might have one one battle, but she lost the war.
It might also be a point that you can ask for help from the wrong people in the end, who while well meaning and want to see you improve, just aren't trained enough to be of any meaningful impact.
How bout don’t go around telling everyone a evil demon is after you and that’s it Jesus rose has zero tact
Poor Joel had to witness the death of someone he genuinely cared for and now he got the curse ;-;
I listened to the Dead Meat podcast episode about smile and James and Chelsea said they think the point is that you’re supposed to deal with your trauma as soon as possible and not push it aside until it’s consumed you. During the movie you’ll hear the main character tell everyone that she’s fine but she’s clearly not fine, as if she’s trying to bury her pain and is afraid to open up about it. Maybe what the movie was getting at was that that’s not a good coping strategy. If her burning down the house was supposed to symbolize her dealing with her trauma then the fact that she ends up back in front of the intact house means she didn’t actually face her trauma after all
This is a good point considering the earlier seen with rose’s therapist where she says maybe she can’t heal the scar from her past but she can find a way to deal with it. She confronted her past and that’s the typical thing that people say you should do to trauma but sometimes that doesn’t work. Sometimes you confront the shitty situation you were put in earlier and life and you come out of it still thinking it’s shitty. She confronted her guilt but that didn’t magically make it go away. It’s still there, she still feels like a terrible person as evidenced by the fact she said at the end that she’s worried someone might see what’s really there. She’s admitting she thinks she’s a terrible person. She’s basically given into the trauma and made herself believe that she’s a terrible person. This inner image of herself is also clearly not true. Earlier in the movie it was mentioned that she treated someone without insurance which cost the hospital a lot of money and also put her in a bad spot in her job. She tried to help someone that no one else wanted to help which can be seen as a hallmark of a good person. Overall the ending makes sense to me as commentary showing how much more complex dealing with trauma is than most people believe
Maybe it's also about how, for some people, the struggle against suicidal ideation is not really something that a single breakthrough moment can deal with. It's a constant fight that sometimes rear its way back into your life in moments of weakness or vulnerability.
For some people it may be like a chemical or gambling addiction. You're never really free of it, and you must continue to treat it and fight it in order to keep it in check
They think the point is that you're supposed to deal with your trauma as soon as possible and not push it aside until it's consumed you. During the movie you'll hear the main character if she's trying to burn her pain and is afraid to open up about it. Burning down The House was supposed to symbolize her darling with her trauma then fact that she endes up back in the front of the track the house and track the house I mean she actually face her trauma after all
I've been wondering if she was suicidal before too because she was at work for days and not sleeping. Something was going on and she was burying it and refusing to deal with it.
Thoughts on this? czcams.com/video/G5EhLC6d7B8/video.html
The birthday party scene, where Rose falls backward onto the glass table and cutting her arms, does really well with toying with the idea that she's just crazy. The way she lifts her arms up staring at them for a moment before screaming at the top of her lungs in anguish.
That scared tf out of mr
I honestly thought that moment was just in her mind tbh because of how it was!
Not gonna lie I was laughing my ass off because I called the cat in the box immediately
Nah that scene was goofy lol
@@WASTEOIDxyesss😂😂😂 me too. I immediately went back to that part where she couldn’t find her cat & plus we were never given an idea of what the gift was till that glass table scene 😂
I actually thought that her plan of "being alone" was for her to kill herself to save other potential victims of the curse/monster. But I thought it was a good movie. Better than what I have expected. I'd love to see a prequel to this movie with the Brazil incident as the premise.
Same thought she was gonna kill herself on her own doing to stop the curse from spreading.
I see A train’s superpowers carried over because he sure ran fast as hell from that relationship
The therapist scene got me, dude. I genuinely didn't think there was anything shady going on. So when the shoe dropped, it was genuinely tingles down your spine scary.
Now that I think about it, I think the curse was testing her to see if she would actually confront her trauma and get help but because she just kept saying she’s fine she essentially “failed”. That’s how I see that scene and it’s actually gave me chills
It was obvious something was wrong
Felt like that scene in IT chapter 2 where Beverly visits her old house and meets Pennywise disguised as an old lady where they sit and drink tea, until the lady starts acting creepy
My favorite scene
@@kjbeast677 yessss and that scene scared me so bad too
The only part that really freaked me out was when she's talking to her therapist, ....then she gets a call from her therapist 😱 gave me goosebumps
Its like that one line story where the dad goes to tuck his kid into bed, the kid asks him to check underneath the bed for monsters, and under the bed the kid is there and says someones in his bed.
@@sorimasn just thinking about thats kinda fucked with me hahaha
@@sorimasn If I’m the dad I’m leaving the house wit the rest of the family 😭
@@masonjar9920 Yeah. But that is when you also have a serious Q and A with both of them to see which is the real one-don't want to abandon your child. May help to call in a significant other to double check whatever is said.
cause of your 1 IQ
911 operator: “Are you alone? …are you sure?” oooh, that line sent chills down my spine. I loved it. I saw the movie twice. I was wondering what took you so long to make a video! I was worried you weren’t gonna make one.
Damn, why didn't Rose's husband use his super speed even once?
I see what you did there.
A train baby
I had to try so hard not to make this joke. Great movie though
That compound V isn't a toy buddy.. bro fell off
After seeing the monster crawling into Rose's mouth it made me realize when Laura was choking earlier in the movie she was getting possessed by the demon before having that smile and killing herself I'm front of Rose. The ending while our main character doesn't win the message is clear: not everyone makes it through mental health issues such as depression which leads in them taking their own life but it doesn't mean you can't try to deal with your trauma and get better but it's not always the case
In the Laura therapist scene, Rose actually says "Laura, Look at me" before Laura looks at her and jumps to the floor, thats the same thing the entity was saying "look at me"
@@bigkappa323 so... the entity is a Mister Meeseeks?
It's crazy how people constantly compare depression to serious mental health issues.
@@johnnycaralta well depression can kill you, by the way of suicide. Doesn't get any more serious.
Is it possible to you belong to the staggering amount of people who think depression is just being in a bad mood?
What I noticed is how Rose hallucinates killing the demon by burning it, then kills herself by lighting herself on fire🤔🤔🤔
i love how when she finally smiles she looks almost entirely different emotionally, gave me full body chills. 10/10
She looks beautiful tbh wasn’t creepy at all she’s stunning 😍
One thing I noticed: Rose is approached by others offering her help, and Rose rejects them, maybe this is just how its presented in the video, but it kinda looks like Rose makes things worse for herself. This would track with the overall themes of the film: the difficulty in confronting your own demons, the apparent apathy of everyone around her, the struggle to find help, etc.
I think the point of the ending was Joel triggered her back into psychosis and that the mental illness (the monster) isn't something you beat but something you face every day. So Rose does overcome it briefly but her fear of commitment to Joel brings it back. That's why she survives longer than others and not everyone dies at the same time. Also the characters acknowledge every pattern except the family members or close friends deaths before the direct suicide chain relating to some kind of avoidance.
I think it was also a form of punishment she puts on herself when she stiffs Trevor, because Trevor was trying to do his best and she pushed him off because of that same fear. So it isn’t surprising when it happens again in much the same way but with Joel.
@@KodamaoftheWeastTree best???? Pls
@@kogascool yes. He was trying his best. I know you’ve never had a relationship with someone that loves you before, but he was a very good fiancé. Sure he was overworked, but so was she, so that’s probably why they clicked. He did independent research to see if he could help her like that, he took her mental health very seriously, he begged her to take time off work, he asked her not to attend her nephew’s birthday if it was gunna cause her distress, he consoled her after she witnessed a traumatic event, and he asked her constantly, and I do mean CONSTANTLY, like annoyingly so, what he could do to help, AND SHE ALWAYS BLEW HIM OFF. Did you want him to rope her in the fucking moon???
@@KodamaoftheWeastTree there is so much wrong with what you said. Lol first no calling someone crazy is not helpful at all. Second no going into someone back round and study with out sitting then down and talking to them seem selfish. He was only thinking about his self. The whole point was none of them were listening to her. Something you didn’t get. It was supposed to represent how people carry on and worry about there own life and miss helping other. Oh and trying to come for me???? Really? How childish
@@kogascool the only thing childish here is how you watched this entire movie and still think most of these people in her life did anything wrong. I know you relate to the main character, but projecting your insecurities on her and then falling back on a victim complex when you’re forced to address these things isn’t helping you. Look internally before making this shit so evident lmfao
I think it does symbolize mental illness, specifically Depression/ Schizophrenia. And at end shows how some people don’t get over theirs but succumb to it. 😢 The monster, to me, is her Depression full blown and it going into her is her totally being overcome by it. Then in the end she commits suicide. The smile might be indicative of the “fake smile” that people with Depression (mental illnesses) usually show the world when inside they feel total despair. Just my opinion.
DEFINITELY schizophrenia!
As a healthcare professional you are right.I think this movie is wonderful.I watched this movie so many times.I have cried because I feel bad for Rose. Experiencing trauma,trying to textbook take care of it, how as a therapist u take care of everyone else and just fake smile and push your trauma to the side. After all of this,no one ever believes someone going through a mental break.Ugh imma start crying
@@malibukitt I’m a healthcare professional too so that’s great 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@@malibukitt
Umm u need help.......
To be considered schizophrenia she has to be monitored 6 months straight
Honestly the best part of this movie for me was Rose's therapist. She's got enough time to take surprise walk-ins and do house calls. Lowkey wish my therapist had this much time on her hands
I feel you bro...
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She’s also a colleague and is receiving special privileges since she’s also a therapist. So I doubt it’s the norm even in that reality .
@@mikeishawtify it's the norm if you have A LOT of money
Idk why rose was annoyed by that, even when she said that she was worried about rose that's why she came to check her out, if i were rose, i would be so happy that someone cares so much about me
It was very weird to see rose calling it an "invasion of privacy", like the therapist didn't come at night at 2 am lmao
I took the curse to be real when I saw this in theaters. When she realizes she needs to be alone and has the knife in the car I was thinking she was going to sacrifice herself, especially considering this happens right after the murder dream. So when the house starts to burn I figured Joel would arrive too late and find nothing left. I think this would've been a better ending as it could be taken as a cautionary tale against dismissing mental health issues while also having Rose beat the curse.
Well first off Rose was a complete dumb ass for not showing the recording of the Laura situation unfolding in the office “RoOse” if u hear it on a recorder most likely it is a real thing! She should have taken straight to whoever she deemed most trustworthy… second of all she LOOKED into Laura eyes I mean who the hell does that when their slitting their throat right in front of you PLOT DEMANDS it I guess but if were me I be like hell na bitch I ain’t bout see ya kys!!
Yeah, I agree. But I guess the director is a sadist, can't believe Trauma is this terrifying to go against once I really think about it.
@@meinhofexe3955 how tf is he a sadist💀
@@bozo3557 By showing the audiences that not everyone can overcome their traumas, hence the ending💀
@@meinhofexe3955 that isn't what a sadiat is💀
For the ending, I feel like because she ran away from the burning monster, she still wasn’t able to face her fear and actions. I think had she not ran out that she would’ve actually been ok. Like a “take action before it’s too late” type of situation. Cause often when you reach out to someone or they try to get help, it’s sometimes too late. And I’ve seen people say that she shouldn’t have done it in front of the Ex but she had no idea he was gonna show up. I think once you lock eyes with the “person” it already has you in its grasp and you physically can’t look away.
I thought it was just easier to imagine a demon is out to get you than accepting you intentionally let your mother die. You're not a bad person, you just an innocent victim of a supernatural evil. All the other people that committed suicide also had previous traumas.
My thing was why did he continue to look when he figured out the pattern..? That’s the part that’s a bit blurry. The curse is “committing $uicide in front of someone w/ trauma watching.” Right? So if he walked in and noticed it why didn’t he run out or turn away to maybe not get cursed?
I think the point the ending was trying to make wasn't "confronting your trauma/fears is worthless." My takeaway is that you shouldn't neglect your trauma for so long that it becomes irreparable - we see in the movie that she tells people all the time that she's fine when clearly she isn't & it's ruining her relationships with people she loves. Backed up by the scene with her sister telling her she's just like her mom, she let her fears/trauma consume her.
For many ppl it’s definitely a good suggestion. In reality every individualis different from the person next to em. So it really doesn’t make sense that a singular method addressing trauma or fears in the early stages would be relevant for everyone. Ppls personality types can often predict how they’ll respond to certain situations too. Some ppl do better by busying themselves and letting the passing time be their way of treatment. Other ppl can be completely incapable of functioning w/o reflecting and addressing the issue. The message is 100% spot on tho showing that many ppl lose the battle within themselves in the end.
The ending was great,idk why did anyone think this was about to be a happy ending.Just mad Trevor kept looking
This movie was extremely gruesome to watch NOT because of the demon but because depression is a real life issue so to see a therapist (the person most likely to defeat that “monster”) lose at the end of the movie really made me shiver in fear. Also I wonder what would happen if a cursed person traumatized a whole group of people at once? Does everyone gets cursed? While these "one person at a time" horrors are good, I kind of want to see what a lot of people under this affliction would do.
I’d imagine the curse is aware of that. Maybe it intentionally kills them in front of one person, so if it’s with multiple, they’d might put their heads together and figure it out, and probably develop a bond to end it. Remember, when you’re depressed, you feel alone, and that’s what the curse feeds on.
@@maximillian875I disagree because the lone survivor mentioned he did his own research into it and the curse has other paths in other places. This implies that at some point, the curse infected multiple people who then went on to spread it to others. If it couldn’t infect multiple people then it would be impossible for multiple paths of infection to exist unless there’s multiple types of demons which could be possible as there are multiple reasons that people become depressed
i mean truth or dare kinda tackled that
So like… a not silly final destination?
I thought it was very similar in a way to the movie "The Happening " by M. Night Shyamalan
Me personally I liked the ending of this movie cause no matter what she tried to do to stop the curse she still ended up finding no way to stop it. I hate seeing the main character always win. It gives a realist perspective of somethings you just can’t defeat.
True... but I don't think its really a good massage for people that deal with mental illness (or just anxiety issues in general) That you can't really beat the problem or at least make things to be better. And that's not a good massage to deliver,horor movie or not!
@@abidubsprodection485 Some people don't beat it, that's the reality and this a curse not a metal illness
@@supoa9489 true.... but still its not really a good massage for people who struggle with it
@@abidubsprodection485I mean it’s a horror Movie.
@@Dante73965 kinda true. Most horor films don't really have a happy ending
I think the end of the movie represents that trauma will always be there even if you confront it. It’s one thing to confront it and it’s another thing to live your life after you confront it. Moving on with life after confronting trauma is extremely difficult in it’s own right and I think a lot of people make the mistake of thinking that just because you confronted your demons that everything will just be okay after that when the reality is just not that simple. As someone who survived severe abuse from a parent, I can tell you that moving on with my life was by far the hardest part of the whole process and confronting the monster who did all of those horrible things to me wasn’t easy either but it was nowhere near the end of my journey to recovery. I might be reading into the movie way too much but I do appreciate that the film exists. If you know anyone who is going through mental anguish, please just show them that you care, sometimes the best thing for someone who’s going through mental issues is to just be heard and to know that someone cares. If you are going through mental issues, please don’t be afraid to ask for help, I did and I’m very happy I did, I’m living a much better life now, I know it’s cliché as hell but there is a light at the end of the tunnel and sometimes reaching out can help you get there. I never thought I would live past 21, I’m going to be celebrating my 27th birthday on Friday, I survived and I know if I can, you can too. Remember, everyone never be afraid to ask someone if they’re okay because you might save their life, I wish everyone a great day and many others.
the ending to me is fitting because nobody actually did anything to help her throughout the entire film. I think the message works since its basically saying that we cannot do it alone.
It seems like a lot of people wanted to, but she kept hurting them and pushing them out.
@@KodamaoftheWeastTree no they didn’t. The sister blew her off. The sister husband was a jerk. The doctor was bad. And Trevor was a ass
@@kogascool her therapist was good, her ex was trying, her fiancé was being lied to and blown off constantly, then she shut him out, at no point was he an ass or even unreasonable, dude, even he BOSS was trying to look out for her mental health. She put herself in the box she died in, she has no one to blame but herself for the outcome.
@@KodamaoftheWeastTree no dude just no
Her boss was def trying to help her.
When i saw it in theaters, I was like "this is the cooler, older sister of It Follows". I also noticed that everyone who also died from the entity had seen a death when they were younger - Laura and her grandpa, the professor and his brother - and if I'm not mistaken they were suicides too. So it seems that when the entity says her mind was inviting, it hints at the childhood trauma that would make them more susceptible to its invasion once compounded upon by adulthood trauma. Makes you wonder what planning it puts into its victims.
I think they even hint that the entity seeks out those with the most traumatic pasts and feeds off the pain
Keep in mind she (Rose) “completely traumatised” her nephew he could now be a target in the future
@@CatChaos369 I did not think of that. That's probably why they showed the kid looking out the window.
Makes me wonder, did they touch on any sort of trauma that Joel had as a child? Since she passed it on to him.. hmm🤔
The inmate she goes to see says it lives off of trauma that’s why it needs someone present at the death
I think the movie was trying to portray how alone people feel while dealing with extreme mental illness. How no one gets how they feel, and everyone thinks theyre crazy. The ending was perfect for that message, imo.
I think it can also be argued that, people can't be helped if they don't open themselves up to be helped. You see it multiple times that the main character just does not accept any of the helpful advise being offered, and only starts seeking out others when it's far too late, and noone is now qualified or in the know enough to understand, to provide any meaningful help.
@@insertname3977 But it’s never too late! The ending is absolutely antithetical to everything that came before!
@@DuelaDent52 It really can be too late, mental health isn't something you can just magically cure with a half arsed attempt, especially if you've allowed it to spiral out of control to the point that suicide is close to the table. The idea that people come back from the edge by simply doing bare minimum to get help, as the norm, is a fantasy we tell ourselves because it's still too taboo of a subject to be brutally honest about.
In the case of this movie, she did everything wrong and chose the wrong people to get help from, which is often the case for people seeking help with their mental health. By the time she was seeking everyone's help, it was too late because she ha already ostracised them to the point they couldn't have any sort of context as to what sort of help was required.
Honestly this movie describes what suicidal people went through so well.
How people start turning away when the mental illness/suicidal ideation intensified, how she couldn't help themselves but projecting these thoughts aloud/with her behaviour (which caused people to turn away), how people dismiss her repeatedly, how she kept denying it by saying she's fine. A friend of mine is like this too (sadly with little chance for solution as their problems stemmed from their body growing chronically ill + already existing mental illnesses).
Yeah... this movie sadly described their struggle realistically (sans the supernatural monster).
I know, and that’s why the ending offends me so badly. Maybe I’m projecting too much of myself into the film, but I felt so… betrayed. And filthy. And it’s even worse because the director said he did pretty much solely to s u b v e r t e x p e c t a t i o n s and pull one over on the audience.
LOVED this movie, honestly one of the first horror movies I think since Hereditary which genuinely creeped me out multiple times. This and The Night House were both really nice surprises. I hope to see more from the director of this movie. I’ll definitely be watching whatever he makes next.
I genuinely found myself enjoying this movie, which surprised me as I'm not a big fan of most modern horror. It hit a lot of the heavy psychological beats that I was looking for but the ending just took me out of it. It felt so ridiculous that it set up a positive message of overcoming grief and then it undercut it completely
I watched this alone during a particularly low point of my life. Then I went to the pub afterwards and the atmosphere was melancholic. It really played on my mind. Things are no better now than they were then.
I knew as soon as the kid grabbed the box that the cat was in it. The dread, oh my god. And then I was like lol that cat looks fake. But then Sosie sold the grief so hard, I instantly felt it in my chest. She did such a great job here. All the "nepo baby" critics seriously need to leave her alone.
it's not just copying off "it follows" it's also copying off of "hereditary" "the ring" "The grudge" and "IT"
the whole "traumatic" experience or "fear" response is talking about something in particular that affects people in real life.
I'm probably biased because I went through almost the exact same thing with my own mother. I was in tears at the end because I resonated to much with Rose. I have so much guilt about my mom's death. Granted, I was not as young as Rose was when my mom did pass. But it's something I'm still dealing with because I basically left my mom drunkenly crying in her bed when I told her I was moving to live with dad. About two weeks after that, we got the call... I was really rooting for Rose to overcome this and I was absolutely devastated when she didn't. I know not everything has a happy ending, but this was the one time I really wanted that. Though I feel like I understand, to some extent, why they chose to go with the ending they did. I am curious if they shot an alternate ending.
That’s horrible I’m so sorry you had to go through that
I think the curse is supernatural. I was glad they didn’t go with the usual happy ending where everything works out. I would’ve been a little disappointed if they did. Depression/mental illness is bleak and feels hopeless & alone and that’s what this ending did. I enjoyed it.
As someone who suffers from mental illness and who knows people who suffer from mental illness, the ending not resolving in a good way doesn't really bother me as much because it feels very poignant. Sometimes, people can get closure, can get help, like therapy and meds and support from family and friends, and still succumb to their demons when they're sure it's all over. Etika is a good example of what I'm talking about.
I have therapy, meds, and vitamins and I still struggle with symptoms of my mental illness, like overwhelming lethargy, low energy, low motivation, and depersonalization. This is not to say that Smile is the monolith for all mental illness and all people who live with it, but that sometimes the tools are not enough.
I was debating whether to watch it or not so I'm glad I watched this first. I don't think I can say "It Follows" was the scariest movie I've ever seen but it was certainly the most stressful. That movie f'd me up (Nightmares, waking terrors, etc.) the freaking soundtrack alone was insane. I definitely don't want to relive that experience...
It follows sucked lol
@@Leoprincess3038 Agreed. Smile stuck to It Follows' rules better than It Follows did. I think people don't rate It Follows on what it actually is and they rate it on what it could've been.
It's that grating soundtrack. I watched it in an empty theater so the sound was just booming. The ending was super disappointing but the first hour had my anxiety on the fritz.
I thought this movie was great, but by the end I was ready for the Demon to take me as well. I was mentally exhausted, like it had been chasing me the whole movie. 😄
The “you’re not listening thing” is actually accurate because I know someone that struggles with mental illness and fake delusions. They are always saying that.
The cat present scene really scared/shocked me, maybe because it's an animal death but it really shook me up. I was crying in the theater just because I didn't expect it at all.
No offense but I don’t think horror movies are for you
@@thesansabasong-bird6947 horror movies are my favorite genre, I just wasn't expecting it, and got shocked, that's all. I love horror movies, but animal death is a lot in any movie not just horror.
*Spoiler warning
An interesting thing I noticed after the second time I saw this. In the beginning Laura says it wears people’s faces. In the end the demon removes its own face to show its true form.
10:09 how he casually calls the head doctor Kumar 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Personally, I loved Smile. It does a good job of continuously building up the horror of the situation, the music and acting are spot on, the effects are WAY better than I was honestly expecting (especially since I only saw the teaser to avoid spoilers) and while I agree that the ending doesn’t work in the story, it’s similar to Malignant in that it becomes so batshit crazy I can’t help but like it anyway.
The ending does not work, how so?
@@forsak3n749 So, the whole story is about her dealing with trauma, right? Like, metaphorically, not literally, cause of the demon. So it shows her setting the thing ablaze, getting out, it seems fine…then it does a complete 180, she gets possessed, dies, and spreads the curse. I mean, as a “Gotcha!” moment, it works, I liked it at first cause I was just baffled by it. But then I thought about it, and it just doesn’t sit right with me that she has her little moment of glory, then dies anyway.
@@forsak3n749 And I understand the idea that it conveys the message that “sometimes help comes too late”, but if it was going for that, why did it go that far into making you think she won? I dunno, something about the execution just….feels wrong, to me. That’s just my opinion. I still REALLY like most of it… I just personally don’t like the ending.
@@eqWillibrium okay babygirly. Here is my response. What you fail to recognise is the fact that the demon is in-fact real and apart of the main story. Rose is dealing with trauma, which is caused by a literal demon haunting her. It’s right as you say. The movie has a powerful message, which is trauma and mental health. However, the way the movie chooses to convey that message is through the demon.
The writers of the movie are very talented. I doubt they meant for the demon to just be a simple metaphor, all in the head of the characters.
Notice how all the characters share similar experiences ie they see a loved one haunting them while smiling. They also commit suicide the exact same way.
One of the characters also acknowledges the demon and informs Rose that the only way to get rid of it is to kill someone in front of a witness to pass on the curse to someone else. This tells us that the demon is real. It is not a metaphor for mental health.
@@forsak3n749 ok, 1.) Don’t be rude because we see different things from this movie. 2.) I’m aware the demon is real. It can be real, and serve as a metaphor. Yeah, she catches on quickly about the curse, but she knows she’s losing it and doesn’t know what’s real. And 3.) while her witnessing the suicide of that girl and getting the curse spread to her is traumatic, I’m referring to the trauma of her, as a little girl, standing in front of her mother, and watching her die, and doing nothing about it. She gets over that (to a degree) after she burns the monster alive, I’m just saying that it’s a weird tonal shift from her succeeding and being happy, to her then committing suicide and spreading a demon curse like 5 minutes later. The rest of the movie is fine. Great, even, which is why I still enjoy it. I’m just saying that the ending feels like it doesn’t know what it wants.
at the end when she inevitably fails it wasn't about "its hopeless don't bother" it was more that its not that easy to just say "im okay" the illusion of the house burning down was her thinking that she can just magically get better, it takes a significant effort to overcome mental illness because its a negative feedback loop, you need more energy than it gives you to break it, which is why having those around who see you is important honestly if her sister and her fiance kept her grounded instead of making her look crazy she probably could have beat it
The short film Laura Hasn't Slept actually ties directly into this film, which is pretty awesome. I would recommend it 👌
I saw it on CZcams on Friday
@Brubrukk it's actually called Laura Hasn't Slept and it's on CZcams
Thanks for the heads up, shall watch it now.
I watched the short after the movie. You can see from that why Paramount Pictures contacted the director to make a feature length version. Though I like the set up of the premise (more simplistic) a bit more in the short. Plus that version actually made me jump! lol
@tjfrizzi5965 I think the short is worth viewing after seeing Smile. The movie stuck with me for a while. I worked in aba therapy and sometimes clients have what could appear to be unnatural emotions because they're masking and imitating the emotions of others around them. That kind of weirded me out after seeing the movie haha
I literally searched for your ending explained video on smile like 2 hours ago and here it is! You are some type of voodoo black magic good sir.
literally same lmao!
The main actress has done a phenomenal job in this movie.
I think they still killed her off specifically for the purpose of showing how trauma can transfer. The people who are there for those experiencing trauma end up getting hurt because of it and have to then navigate their own trauma.
The concept of "hurt people hurt people" (someone who has been hurt will likely hurt others because of that pain)
Feels sorta like if this had been released 10 years ago there'd be an alternate ending on the DVD extras. But I like the ending it has for two reasons. First, the demon's design is great! Secondly, it made me wonder if things would've turned out differently if more than just one person had listened to her. Or the gal before her. Or the guy before her. And so on. Which could be part of the message. But I don't really go into a movie looking for a message. I'm just looking to be told a story, so I'm not the person to analyze.
Seemed kind of like the Final Destination movie death chains where you will do no matter what unless you pass it to someone else
This movie was so good to me. I struggle with mental health a lot and it resonates. Also that diner is a real location I've been to in New Jersey.
It doesn't matter if I've seen a movie, don't plan to see it, hated it or seen another review of a movie I always come to this channel I just love FoundFlix ❤
Honestly I thought the line where it said you can’t escape your mind and she said neither can you was one of the most memorable of the movie.
Sucks the rest of the ending undermines that line.
Its just kind of good to enjoy a horror movie again. The genre needs help.
The entire movie making industry needs an ideological overhaul. Too much political lecturing. Too much "Recycle already used formula". Too much creative laziness
@@iraqifoodcart8447 💯 everything feels lazy and a money grab. If it’s not that it’s pandering nobody asked for🤦🏽♂️. I remember movies would get talked about for months after release. Now it seems like a lot of trailer hype. Then the movie is average. Then people forget and wait for the next thing. Which will probably be some remake for nostalgia that doesn’t hold up. 🔁 🔁🔁
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Yup.
People just LOVE being lectured to in their entertainment, and having political agendas shoved down their throats, during a time we are trying to escape from all the BS in the world. Lol.
Agreed
I was surprised by this movie it was great
We're all mad here.
I was never sane
seen some other channel do an ending explained for this since you hadn't upload yours yet, and they just sounded confused and kept time jumping all over the place. I'm happy you put yours up, sometimes I don't even watch the movies I just get the info from your channel lol
I just gotta say huge props to the guy who played the insane patient that gets stabbed. His performance and ability to really scare the viewer all throughout the film was phenomenal
Smile was so good, I love watching it first horror movie I was 100% scared by. It was such a sad movie and ending too
At least the movie depicts what ppl with mental illness go through accurately. Everyone making you feel crazy and like you should hide it from ppl. Isolating the individual which only enables their mental illness to spiral even further outta control.
Friends and family want to act like they are there for you but when you actually go to them and talk about not so nice things - like being depressed, having certain thoughts, opening up about voices and hallucinations, etc. when that’s brought up they immediately get uncomfortable and end up making you feel bad and it all just affirms that you can’t go to anybody for help.
I don't know, almost everyone in the movie tried to be helpful but were constantly being pushed away, to the point that when Rose figured out she really did need help, it was too severe for anyone to do anything about it, besides maybe having her committed to a psyche ward for her own safety.
The problem that people seem to forget, is that unless you're trained individual (and even then that's not guaranteed to protect you as this movie showed), even trying to listen to someone with mental health issues, and be there for them, can in fact damage your own mental health and cause your own spiral.
@@insertname3977 So just ignore them, you can’t do ANYTHING for them, don’t even bother so you don’t get infected with their crazy and end up killing yourself as well and infecting other people with your trauma you gross selfish pile of damaged goods. Thanks, Smile!
@@DuelaDent52 You help someone with mental health issues by sending them to someone who's professionally trained, while being as supportive as you can without causing your own mental health to suffer. Anyone who expects more than this is frankly selfish and narcissistic, and far more toxic of an individual than someone who simply doesn't want to help at all. I'm saying this from experience as someone who drove a friend to suicide after relying too much on them for my own suicidal thoughts.
Yes! Her fiancé and sister were not helpful at all it was so frustrating especially from her sister
Dude I really like how you thoroughly explain each aspect of the movie. Can't wait for the next one.👍👍👍👍👍
When it comes to anything a respectful and straightforward review, I come here. Happy holidays, friend
Thank you, FoundFlix! Your videos always make us smile. In a good way!
See what you did there
I understood that reference.
I cannot fall asleep tonight, and was in separate need of entertainment to keep me over for the next 3 hours. Thanks so much for continue to upload these horror movie analysis essays, especially today.
i’ve been waiting for you to make this😩thank u!
Yesssss! I've been waiting on your ending explained for this movie! Thank you sir!!! 👨🏾💻👊🏾👏🏾😅😄😁
I'm kinda reminded how when I was in high school a kid hung himself, and afterwards a few people tried (fortunately failed) to ends their lives too.
Once someone tells you it's an option it's a fight for your life against your own thoughts.
I dont watch movies alone like ldk and I really wanted to watch smile and im glad you went over it. I love all of your reviews.
Ty I was waiting for you to explain this, some scenes was confusing to me so for you to dumb it down for me is excellent 👍🏿
I later started to theorize that the sister's kid can see the entity. I don't see the kid reacting that way with the hard breathing unless he saw something horrifying unreal.
I enjoyed watching with my family.. I live in a neighborhood with a lot of stay at home moms and that birthday party fiasco is definitely the scariest scene through that lens
I agree that the ending is more frustrating if you think about it. Its hard to watch her try so hard after knowing it doesn't matter.
The monster that crawled into her mouth in the end looked so badass, great and interesting creature design
If the movies "Oculus" and "It Follows" had a baby, "Smile" is it!'
really enjoyed this movie. While not really an original plot, it's a great amalgamation if It Follows, The Ring, Oculus, Truth or Dare (2018), and Hereditary. I haven't seen many people make the comparison to Oculus, but the reason why I cite that film is that trying outwit an entity that can manipulate reality is ultimately a fools errand. The film kinda reminds me of A Classic Horror Story (2021) which was also an amalgamation of different horror film plots interwoven effortlessly and backed by great performances.
Could you go through raised by wolves? Great show, 2 seasons, canceled after a MASSIVE cliffhanger. I think you would like it and we need more exposure to get picked back up. Thanks mate, you're a legend. 🤘
Just finished watching it and I loved it. It was nice to see something different. The scares were great. Huge horror fan here. ❤
I think the ending is more plausible. Accepting your trauma is not the same as being able to healthily live. Some people simply cannot successfully find motivation to live that is stronger than the drive to relieve their pain.
Calling it a lift from it follows is a massive leap. As the entity in this is massively different. And has a definitive way of being avoided.
No I’d say it’s a rip off and of it follows instead of std and sex it’s mental health and trauma.
I'd have to disagree. This felt like it follows. Atmosphere and everything. Besides seeing the curse it was basically the same.
@@bobgunter9608 I could at least say inspired by. Calling it a rip off is a bit unfair. All the characters in this are awfully one dimensional though. I can see the parallels but at least it's somewhat original at least with the curse itself.
@happy2904 I feel like this was just a "scarier" version of the episode "Duck!" from the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy where a ghost duck kept farting around Mandy to drive her insane. Mandy seemed to handle that entity better than Rose handled the smiling creature.
@@bersabrie the funny part is you’re totally correct and I am shocked by it lmao
I think the ending makes sense if "the curse" is a mental illness and not an actual "curse". Yes she faced her trauma and addressed her guilt...once. Facing your trauma once doesn't magically resolve it. It might be a good first step, but the trauma is still there. It takes time, reflection and gradual behavioural changes to unwrap the trauma and dissect it, to slowly convince the brain that "it's okay now."
If "the curse" is a mental illness, then it makes sense that burning down the house didn't get rid of her hallucinations.
It was good to see modern horror that legit tripped me out. I had to watch some interviews with the cast to remind myself that I'm good lol. I found an interesting interview with Collider Interviews and the director, which answered a lot of my questions about the Lore.
Really loved this one and look forward to seeing what else this director works on in the future.
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Thank you for another great episode! I would love to see you do "Funny Games" or "Speak No Evil"❤️
First off I was say i love sosie's acting in this movie as this is the first i've seen her in anything. Now with that out the way gotta say I liked the movie with it's own look into trauma/mental illness and how it's passed down, very interesting. I also agree about the ending kind of undermining the journey but i was also taken back by it but in a good way. It was as if the movie was telling us "Oh yeah!, she finally got over her trauma with her mother but this is still a horror movie and look there's the entity" it was a gut punch and a welcome one i must admit as I actually liked rose.
Smile surprised me. While yeah it was predicted I will say I expected them to win in the end instead of losing but I think it’s a good watch for anyone who wants a creepy watch.
I haven’t seen anyone talking about this but the upside down drone shots do a really good job of unsettling the viewer
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thanks for what you do dude! kinda wasnt sure if i wanted to watch this or not but this 35 min rundown rocked!
Was anyone else like "heyyy, it's Carla!! My puerto rican princess"
BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO COVER THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!
An intervention of only 2 people and one not related to me would genuinely make me sad. I'm glad I have family who loves and cares about and I'm very grateful
I loved this movie. Saw it in theaters bc the trailer was actually scary and I’m a huge Kyle Gallner fan. I didn’t expect the trauma aspect of it though and I didn’t expect to basically come out of it feeling like I went through a counseling session of sorts. It was a lot! Don’t see this movie if you have unresolved trauma issues! But it’s well done, even if the ending is a total downer.
Whaaaat
Watch the end again, lion for symbolism
Kyle is under rated, loved him in "A Nightmare on Elm Street" (2010).
@@colbyholmes4310 not sure what that means
Holy crap, the end of this movie really blew the whole thing. I LOVED the story, but the fact that she actually loses to this “curse”/disease in the end really sucked the wind out of my sails. What a chokefest, man.
Loved it. Cant beat a demom
I was waaaaaaaaiting for you to do this one❤️
i love this channel because i love when a film has symbolism and it is not so black and white. especially when the ending is up for interpretation, and seeing what others believe it means. it’s always amazing when a movie can make you think and have to wonder what it could mean.
I enjoyed the movie, but I do wish there were more scenes of seeing random people creepily smiling.
Like at the grocery store, driving and seeing someone in another car, walking and seeing a random person from afar staring.. smiling.
Because that, for me, was the creepiest part. I'd be so scared if that happened to me in real life. Just people anywhere anytime smiling staring, like that one guy that did the smiling and staring video. That was unnerving.
The curse is literally her failure to maintain her mental health causing other people misery. That's literally what her interaction with her mother demonstrates. It's what her mother did to her. It's what she does to Joel.
I’m someone who battles with mental illnesses such as chronic depression, anxiety, and schizophrenia and this is kind of what reality is like for me. People just don’t care and boils your trauma all down to you’re crazy as if it’s your fault for the things you have to deal with
The woman on the cover of smile and in the film - Laura. I was going I seen you somewhere then it hit me she used to star in the Australian soap Neighbours lol
I think the film sets up two possible sequels that have potential to be interesting. There’s the nephew who experiences a traumatic experience like rose did with her mom AND we have a possible sequel with the cop which could work out interestingly because he has more info than any of the other victims.