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DIY: Honda PCM IDLE Relearn Procedure on a Honda Civic
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- čas přidán 10. 04. 2016
- DIY: Honda PCM IDLE Relearn Procedure on a Honda Civic Hybrid
After cleaning my 2008 Honda Civic Hybrid throttle body, the honda service manual (amzn.to/2BgulRA ) tells you to reset or relearn your Honda's idle.
For a normal Honda Civic, turn off every power load on your car (AC, radio, lights,etc), then turn the key to the ON position for 2 seconds, then turn on the car and rev to 3000 rpm until the engine temperature high enough that your radiator fans start or to operating temperature on your temperature gauge. For the 2006-2009 Honda Civic Hybrid, you will need to keep the 3000 rpm to charge the IMA battery first to 100% as it will put load on the engine to charge the battery. It takes about 3-5 minutes to charge at and get the engine to running temp. Then you let the car idle for 5 minutes. It should idle at about 830 rpm with no load on the engine. Afterwards you are done! Its that simple. My Honda Civic Hybrid revs were high after the procedures as well as the Throttle body cleaning, moreover it runs more responsive than it did before the cleaning and reprogramming.
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I had problem with acceleration around 2000-3000 rpm. Car didn't run smoothly after valve adjustment. No codes in ECU. Checked sparks, cleaned and in the end exchanged 4 ignition coils, cleaned throttle body and it fixed nothing. After doing Idle relearn procedure it finally back to normal. Thanks a lot with this movie! I did it on parking lights on and got same good result. My car is Honda Jazz/Fit II 2004.
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@@SterlingW8 went to get a smog check and they mentioned that the rpms were running too fast for 25mph @ about 2100 a little above the passing speed, so it failed. he mention that i can adjust the rpm speed with a screwdriver or something by loosening the throttle body or something. Do you have any idea where exactly i can do that? i cant find any videos on it, they al just talk about idle speed when im pretty sure my problem is at 25mph with a slightly high rpms.
@@Nunya00 dunno about the 08 civic... time to Google it.
@@Nunya00 using a screwdriver to adjust idle is more of a carburetor thing i would think.
I had this problem on a 2009 honda accord euro/acura tsx after cleaning the throttle body and just following an idle relearn didnt work for me, first I needed to an ecu reset and clear the throttle values which can be done without any scanner or honda dealer:
To do the battery cable reset- follow this: 1. Remove negative battery terminal. 2. Remove positive battery terminal. 3 Be sure you arent going to make contact with the battery, for later steps possibly even remove it from the car if needed 4. Connect the battery cables together either using a jumper cable or clamp them together if they reach. 5. Turn on your key to on (not ACC, to on) and yes there will be no lights on the dash. 6. Leave for 10 minutes. 7 Turn your key back to off, reconnect positive then negative and THEN follow the idle relearn procedure you will find pasted all over youtube (or just start the car rev 3k rpm until the car reaches temp and then leave it to idle 10 min). You will also need the radio code and possibly relearn your auto windows, for which there is good info for on youtube.
A K thx, these are the best instructions I’ve seen for any issues related to a hard computer reset.
You save my life !!! Its working for a Civic Fn2 type r ... thank you soo very much 🤩🤩🤩🤩
I had the same thing and did the relearn idle and checked for leaks and nothing i did almost everything that says on the internet the last thing that i did. I went to the mechanic and with a computer he reset the throttle body and relearn the idle and then it got FIXED. Everything went back to normal
Holding RPM's at 3k is not part of the relearn. Just heats the engine to operating temp
Thanks for the tip.
What is the process i need to kno
With regards to this : when trying to idle relearn my 7th gen civic, if I heated it up PRIOR to the idle relearn then it would only idle when hot. If you include the heat up process in the idle relearn it helps the car to cold start and learn how to idle in sub optimal temps not just when it’s hot.
@@asherq8646 so I should do the idle relearn when the car is hot & wait for it warm up, or I can do it at start up even if it’s cold?
Thanks for clarifying that. I've seen idle relearn procedures where you just let it idle until fans come on...then let it idle another 10 min after that. I think a lot of people think that keeping it at 3k rpm's is part of the procedure.
Thanks. It really helped. Rpm is at 0.8 just hope it stays that way.
my aircon doesn't work, someone suggested a faulty aircon relay ? in order to test it i took out another relay and put in in the slot where the air con relay was, no different aircon still doesn't work . So i put the relay back where i got it. After that i get check engine warning light and having problems with my idle speed . Anyone got some advise ?? Did i messed up the relay by trying it in the aircon slot ??
Didn't work for my 2012 accord!!
Will This Work 2008 Honda Civic ?
Hi, i am trying to follow this procedure but i think i can't complete it. The rpm is still stick at 1 and not lower like 0.8. Also i've noticed after finishing the procedure, when I press the gas pedal just a little bit, the rpm goes up (of course) and then in its way down, it goes up again alone... then it goes down to stick at 1.
I took of the throttle body for a little clean up, then put it back. I first received the code P1129. After following this procedure, i went on highway and after coming back home, just before turning off the engine, i get the code P0507.
I might havent replaced the throttle well or something like that.
Have someone experienced the same problem? codes?
Any idea?
Soufiane Mess not 100% sure but that sounds like an air temperature sensor malfunction, take off the minus pole of the battery for 1-2 minutes and check if the air temperature sensor stays on right position and its clean, after that reconnect the battery and it should work fine than you can do that relearning procedure.
I have the same stuff except I get pO443. So weard I never had that. If you find a solution keep me posted. I'll try this and see if it's works
Shit I wish mine even idled at 1k mine idles at 2k. Also onc ei press the clutch in my rpms jump high before dropping again. I've replaced my iacv my map sensor and my tps sensor plus cleaned my TB and it's still idling at 2k
@@WavyVaporizers sounds like straight up transmission issue
@@VeggieRice it was my tps that needed to be calibrated. Car is perfectly fine now 💪
Hey, I am also thinking about cleaning the throttle body. Did you "Reset the ECM/PCM with the HDS" before you do this idle learn procedure? I heard a lot people meeting the rpm fluctuation problem without doing it.
On the 2008 Honda Civic Service Manual, it tells me to do the 3,000 rpm PCM procedure after the throttle cleaning. And that's what i did.
Got it. Thank you!
+Sterling Wong did you remove the throttle to clean
+Rich Lo no just did a surface clean of the gunk around the throttle body.
Is this procedure the same for the Honda Accord models?
hi my honda civic fd 1.8s 2008 idle is 1200rpm, but after 1 minute it goes down to 850rpm. is that normal? fyi mine is none hybrid. thanks
+M Atienza depending on engine temp, maybe. Both my hondas idle at about 1k give or take 200 rpm
Could you change acceleration throttle on cable? I don't like at all electronics... if you have on cable only need to change a little bit idle screw and all done :))
Hi sir upon starting the engine how many seconds before putting the rpm at 3000,what if it doesnt work,please advice thanks
E bom esperar o motor esquentar um bocadinho e deixar o óleo subir bem para nao dar folta de lubrificação
So, 1,329.46 is what it cost me fixing my crank no start, 2005 civic coupe. 119,200miles. So past month it wouldn't start , I replaced, ignition coils, spark plugs, battery, grounds upgraded to 2 gauge wiring, ELD replaced, fuses, 130 in relays, fuel pump, injector & rail & to round it out a genuine Honda ecm reflashed with my car, still no start. I had spark, compression, air & fuel. Stumped 3 mechanic friends who are veterans, reopened fuel pump & was priming & spitting gas. In last ditch effort I said fuck it & replaced whole sending assembly, it started. I forgot about relearn procedure though. How can I reset it, is it 10 or 20 min?
Is it really necessary to hold it around 3000 RPM until its rad fan turns on or could it be also done by just waiting for its rad fan to turn on without holding it around 3000 RPM? What's the logic behind?
You can let it idle and wait for radiator fan to turn but may take longer time like 5 minutes or more.
But putting the engine at 3,000 rpm may take 2-3 minutes for the fan to turn or the engine reach operation temp.
This never works for me... Must be in 10th gens and later only....😫
I live in London. I have 2006 civic hybrid import from Japan.. IMA light appear but it's goes on an off.. any idea how to reset this or I need software update
+D Dentist if you still have a warranty on your IMA system i would take it to the dealer for warranty repair. But a simple obd2 reset or disconnecting the 12 volt battery for 15 minutes maybe able to temporarly reset it.
+D Dentist ima updates are done at the dealership kinda hard to find the ecu updates on it.
i have a problem with my idle, when i turn on my air conditioner, my idle rpm goes down about 600 rpm. i have tried to relearn like ur video cause i just changed oxygen sensor with the new one. can you help to solve my problem?
Dino andrian did you figure out the issue?
Bro have u solved this issue, my civic has this issue now
reset your battery first. there’s instructions in the comments above.
Hi Dino, have u solve that problem? My car also happen like that
Can I do the same procedure for automatic transmission? Should be on Neutral or Parking?
Mine is an automatic
Thanks for posting! Helped out a lot!
Did this method twice and neither worked after cleaning my throttle is this only for hybrids??
iit seems to work on my hybrid... it states this in the service manual...
@@SterlingW8 he did this wrong you have to take the number 6 fuse for a minute, them put it back them start the car at 3000 rpm for five min, them let the gas go and let the car on for five more min, that should do it.
Is this the same procedure you would do if say, you install an aftermarket throttle-body?
not sure... it was in the honda service manual
My 2003 HCH idles at zero rpm.the car is not shaky and the engine does not stall. No check engine lights either. Only issue is poor acceleration and poor gas mileage.can anyone help??
Yinka Okunade tps
Hi mate my car start but when i Press on the acceleration pedal the car wont rev or response, any idea thanks
I have a 06 civic two door wants to idle funny n stall out n put new battery in n alternater is great help me
Check etb wires... clean it... reset it with a scan tool.. 100%
I cleaned the throttle body and did this relearn procedure. My car now idles at 1,100 RPM. Any tips on how to get it down to 600-800 RPM?
Check egr
@@Jerm353 I'll try to clean the EGR valve in the next week. Does the EGR valve act up after cleaning the throttle body? I had good rpms before I cleaned the throttle body, but after cleaning the throttle body and doing the tps relearn procedure, my rpms are at 1,100.
Higher rpm usually is a stuck “something” or a vacuum leak that have not been picked up yet by the computer so recheck your work. Make sure you didn’t leave a hose loose
Just following up… I was able to borrow an expensive diagnostic tool from a friend. I ran a TPS reset and then I did this relearn procedure. It worked perfectly! I am now around 700 RPM at idle. I tried the relearn procedure at least 7 times before, but it only worked after I ran the TPS reset on the expensive diagnostics tool.
why does my hybrid civic 08 same like yours only
gives me 21mpg ..
i have no check engine light or nothing
+tahoe310 Check and maintain: CVT, IMA battery among many other factors....
Thanks bro 🙏
HOLD what for 2seconds?
The key in the ON position
Dude could I get a link to that phone holder?
I bought a similar one at Frye's
i guess it helped my civic.. thanks a lot
+Jaba Shakarishvili no prob
, glad it helped
Great Video, where did you get the CD phone holder , thks
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U need to reset the ECU/PCM before doing this, else this aint doing nothing.
I agree, must do the ECU/PCM reset before the relearn procedure.
He cleaned his throttle body thus he unplugged battery. That resets PCM.
engine light came back after 3 weeks i change catalytic converter on my honda civic hybrid 2010 and idea why
Does this only work for hydrid only ?
u can charge on L Mode with foot on brake in 10-15 mins
yup
I got same problema, I need help please, is 2006 honda civic hybrid 1.3L 4 door, the IMA battery is not charging. 225 6780635
Hey man do you kno if theres a relearn process for oxygen sensors? Great video by the way
I dont know. Last time i had a o2 or mass airflow sensor issue with my other honda, cleaned it and did 12v battery reset, and cleared the codes with a obd2 reader. Never came back.
@@SterlingW8 stupid question but how did you do a 12v batter rest? Thanks for the reply. I got p0141 changed 02 sensor deleted code and p0141 just keeps coming back i also checked over the wire harness everything seems fine there so im really at a loss for ideas lol😅 its a 08 civic incase anyone or yourself has any ideas would be greatly appriciated..
@@nd4120 not sure if it helps but, i reset the 12v to clear most issues, if not then the obdii will.
@@SterlingW8 ok awsome. And how exactly did you go about resetting the 12v? Sorry if it seems like a stupid question.
@@nd4120 disconnect the 12v battery for 3-5 minutes. It will NOT clear major codes, for that you need an obdii reader. And even that is temporary, if there is a problem with the car it will still throw codes. Good luck! ... or just take it to a mechanic. :)
nice video!
Can u plz make a video of the same for i20 elite 2015
+Nikhil Lobo ? I20?
Sterling W hyundai elite i20
I tried this but the idle was the same and problem wasnt solved. Engine light still on. Is it safe to attempt again?
You may want to get a obdii tool and app to see what going on.
@@SterlingW8 yes code was P0507
Did u have to unplug battery?
nope
but i usually unplug the battery when i work on the car.
Car starts and dies after cleaning throttle body
Will this process work on 98 to 2000 Honda Civic ex?
Hey Fausto Flores did you fix your problem?
why the ebrake?
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Hopefully you didn't do shit on a cold engine dude.
What a load of crap
Lol. Does nothing, even with PCM reset. Lol
this is one of the ugliest dashboards I’ve ever seen. I thought Honda was a car for me, it still might be but it has to pass the dashboard test first. This model does not pass the dashboard test.