The Piano with 97 Keys - An Incredible Bosendorfer 290

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  • čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
  • The Bösendorfer 290, also known as the Imperial, is one of the most iconic and impressive pianos ever made. Notable for its extra bass notes, massive size, and extremely high quality, the Imperial has long been one of my favorite pianos simply for the oddity and rarity of them, and this particular instrument is one of the best I've played. Refurbished by Meyer in Europe, this instrument has an unusually deep, sonorous tone, a crystalline treble, and a powerful sound that you won't always find in a Bösendorfer!
    Many thanks to Benjamin Kim from Kim's Pianos for letting me review and play this piano, even though it was sold! Not everyone would allow that.. :)
    Kim's Piano
    10200 Beach Blvd
    Stanton, CA 90680
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Komentáře • 190

  • @SarumChoirmaster
    @SarumChoirmaster Před 2 lety +58

    As a former professional violist, I was once invited by Victor Borga to play his piano during a rehearsal. It WAS and IS an instrument beyond description. I have never played a piano so magnificent as that piano. PERFECTION

  • @jismo7
    @jismo7 Před 2 lety +53

    My dream piano! Such a beautiful tone. Saying that, I'd be more than happy with its baby brother which has the 4 extra bass notes.

    • @DJStefandeJong
      @DJStefandeJong Před 2 lety

      Try the 200 model as well, its equally gorgeous.

  • @RayMak
    @RayMak Před 2 lety +94

    Such an incredible instrument

  • @DrChaad
    @DrChaad Před 2 lety +34

    I had a chance to buy an 1897 Bösendorfer at a bargain price. It needed new strings, but the action was like velvet. Very responsive. Still kicking myself for letting that go.

  • @moldenburg909
    @moldenburg909 Před 2 lety +24

    Bösendorfer, my all times favorite piano brand. The sound is so special and visually they are stunning. What special that they let you play this one. That’s amazing. Thank you for sharing and playing this beauty. I love it.

  • @gnavarro1971
    @gnavarro1971 Před 2 lety +8

    17:14 The moment that all of us were waiting!

  • @paulchappell
    @paulchappell Před 2 lety +16

    I was a bit surprised to learn some pianos are roped off from mere tire-kickers. Years ago I was graciously left alone to enjoy a Faziola 278 in a showroom in London. Best hour of tire-kicking ever.

  • @andysleeper1283
    @andysleeper1283 Před 2 lety +114

    Copyright restrictions on your own performance of Clair de Lune? That is mysterious

  • @CappeSun
    @CappeSun Před 2 lety +7

    21:20 I have Minecraft running in the background lol

  • @cbmsysmobile
    @cbmsysmobile Před 2 lety +7

    The Concert Grand 290 Imperial. Never has a title been more apt for such a magnificent instrument. I never tire of hearing one of these being played using it's full range.

  • @mbr7156
    @mbr7156 Před 2 lety +24

    when a piano's tone makes you feel under- dressed

    • @TheMister123
      @TheMister123 Před 2 lety +2

      Not with *that* leather jacket. :-)

  • @onemoremisfit
    @onemoremisfit Před 2 lety +5

    Your fine playing and your access to and detailed presentation of such an instrument is a wonderful thing to have on YT.

  • @Tubajubaduba
    @Tubajubaduba Před 2 lety +3

    I have had the wonderful opportunity to play this kind of Bosendorfer piano at my University and it is one of the finest pianos I have played.

  • @kenan_keys
    @kenan_keys Před 2 lety +6

    Bösendorfer 290 sounds beautiful! You did a great job showcasing this fine instrument...loved it.

  • @jonjonmia
    @jonjonmia Před 2 lety +1

    Great sequel! I loved all the info you gave

  • @pamelaarescurrinaga8201
    @pamelaarescurrinaga8201 Před 2 lety +2

    Always a pleasure to hear you talk about an exceptionally good piano.
    I love the crystalline sound of this big beauty.

  • @dwftube
    @dwftube Před 2 lety +9

    even the bass on the regular notes is exceptional

  • @crazymusicman6154
    @crazymusicman6154 Před 2 lety +2

    I will buy one of these some day I don’t care how but I’ll get one

  • @samsaks7801
    @samsaks7801 Před 2 lety +5

    Hey James. Amazing video and fantastic piano. I just love the base of this piano. Keep making great content like this and thank you. :)

  • @magdavelas
    @magdavelas Před 2 lety +17

    If I could ever win the lottery… I’d like to get a Bosendorfer.

    • @CLASSICALFAN100
      @CLASSICALFAN100 Před 2 lety +2

      I heard that Bosendorfer is now constructing both Imperial Grand pianos *AND* aircraft carriers! (They're both about the same size.)...lol

  • @The_Smith
    @The_Smith Před 2 lety +23

    Nice of Mr. Kim to make an exception for you to play that piano.

  • @andrewwilliams9580
    @andrewwilliams9580 Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing sound. I've never had the pleasure of playing this brand before. The extra low notes are amazing!!

  • @troyoswald5683
    @troyoswald5683 Před 2 lety

    I so enjoy your channel . This was so great. Thanks James! We are so lucky!

  • @BarryWaterlow
    @BarryWaterlow Před 2 lety +2

    I can see you having an incredible time in Europe playing and documenting historical keyboard instruments in the historical collections where playing is permitted. I like the passion you bring to your CZcamss about instruments! I’d love to see a PBS TV series on that….

  • @88mixture88
    @88mixture88 Před 2 lety +2

    Great. Another acoustic piano review. Looking for more.

  • @johnweller1423
    @johnweller1423 Před 2 lety +18

    Well I was mostly correct on the “Bösendorfer Imperial Grand” what a fantastic piano. Oh yeah and the thunder haha 💪😆

  • @hrobert745
    @hrobert745 Před 2 lety

    Enjoyed this very much.

  • @JapChinLuvr
    @JapChinLuvr Před 2 lety +9

    I've heard a variety of pronunciation of "Bosendorfer", but your is the first of this particular variety. Enjoyed the clip, anyhow.

  • @DrChaad
    @DrChaad Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you, Ben! I'll be visiting your store soon.

  • @sunpathviewer
    @sunpathviewer Před 2 lety +3

    Ahhh! I did get to play one once at Carpenters Music in Reno in the 90's if memory serves. I forgot what I played .. lol. I'm happy for you James! Thanks!

  • @maddogmcrae
    @maddogmcrae Před 2 lety +3

    That is a very fine instrument for sure. I love the thick, rich sound the extra low notes add.

  • @Ramian1
    @Ramian1 Před 2 lety +6

    Nice to see a piano with cupholders for the whole family :D

  • @piarno1
    @piarno1 Před 2 lety +1

    Wonderful instrument! I love it for Jazz.

  • @xannavia7507
    @xannavia7507 Před 2 lety +1

    I once heard someone demo a bosendorfer 290 imperial with Rochmoninoff prelude in C sharp minor. It blew me away! The first section was done octave style using the extended keys. What a huge difference it made! Great video.

  • @towerofresonance4877
    @towerofresonance4877 Před 2 lety +3

    My favorite instrument of all time, my life goal is to be able to emulate the very last note on this piano with my voice in perfection. What I love about this instrument is that you do not hear the sound of the key strike with the low notes, you just simply hear the low note, it does not sound like a subharmonic note. For instance, on standard pianos, when you are striking A0, you get that annoying ping sound that is about 3 octaves higher and then you actually hear the vibration.

  • @Sebastian-gc2hc
    @Sebastian-gc2hc Před 2 lety +5

    This piano is alive, it is the most amazing piano.

  • @nicholson227
    @nicholson227 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank You

  • @sunpathviewer
    @sunpathviewer Před 2 lety +5

    The velvet action feels like playing clouds carrying the fingers. My favorite so far.

  • @JuanSewDLKS
    @JuanSewDLKS Před 2 lety +1

    OMG Amazing Piano

  • @Beethoven80
    @Beethoven80 Před 2 lety +6

    Amazing video as always, thank you!
    The "swallow tail" design was also used by Bechstein for a long time. It seems that it was optional at extra cost from many manufacturers, depending on the customer's taste.
    By the way, Blüthner also uses individually hitched strings.

  • @nickcruisebeatz1932
    @nickcruisebeatz1932 Před 2 lety +1

    The East West Music Software plug in brought me here. Bosendorfer is an incredible piano!

  • @Mark959
    @Mark959 Před rokem +2

    This is a much better demonstration than your previous two of the Imperial. I played one once, and just bashed the bass notes and made it sound harsh (it's on my channel!).
    Here, you can hear the wonderful purr and subtle growl of those bass notes, which really makes a better demonstration of this piano's tonal range.
    Goes to show, big pianos aren't just about power and volume!

  • @BRL1611
    @BRL1611 Před 2 lety +3

    My friend has one of those in his house. Yes, they are very nice to play.

  • @avsystem3142
    @avsystem3142 Před 2 lety +3

    I have an anecdote about a Bösendorfer Imperial Grand. The community college in my town in Northwestern New Mexico has a large performing arts center that serves both the academic needs of the college as well as hosting various musical performances. The stage piano is a BIG. Pianists with various bands would all be delighted to be able to perform on the instrument. Some years ago I was taking piano lessons at the college. The music department was upstairs in the performing arts center. The music department had several different pianos. There were two practice rooms with uprights, the classroom where I took my lesson had a Baldwin baby grand. another large classroom had a Yamaha grand and the choir room had a full-size Baldwin grand piano. I practiced on all of them at various times before my class. I particularly liked the Baldwin grand. One year there was a master class for the advanced piano students which was to be held in the main auditorium. I wasn't an advanced student but I wanted to attend to listen to the best students and also hear the feedback from an outside expert who was visiting. That person was Dr. Paul Posnak. Dr. Posnak has an extremely impressive CV. I'm looking at it now in the liner notes of a CD he recorded, "Paul Posnak - Classics and Classic Jazz", (www.paulposnak.com). He is particularly known for transcribing recordings by artists such as Fats Waller and George Gershwin and then performing/recording them. When I arrived for the event I noticed that the Bösendorfer was no longer on stage. It had been replaced by another piano. I asked my piano instructor what the deal was. She said that Posnak had turned up his nose at the Bösendorfer because it had untextured plastic key surfaces. The Baldwin grand from the choir room upstairs had to be hauled down to the stage for the master class. Apparently the Baldwin had ivory key tops. Posnak actually commented during the master class that the smooth plastic keys just wouldn't do for serious performers. What do you think? Pure snobbery or justified preference?

    • @ThePianoforever
      @ThePianoforever  Před 2 lety +6

      Neat story, how long ago was this? When Steinway first adopted plastic keytops in the 1950's all their artists frowned upon it, with some saying the plastic was "slippery like an eel". Today, plastic keytops are accepted on concert stages across the world, but pianos with the old natural keytops are actually preferred by some. The reason for this is because the organic material absorbs sweat and has a great grippy texture. Many synthetic versions have been experimented with on both acoustic and digital pianos but no plastic has the same sweat-absorbing grippy properties of ivory. While I find the story surprising if it took place recently, as plastic has pretty much become the norm, there is definitely justfication for his preference.
      In addition, Baldwins have long been loved by jazz pianists, most notably Dave Brubeck who owned an SD-10, which I played once! But of course you also have Oscar Peterson who prefers Bosendorfer :D

    • @frazzledude
      @frazzledude Před 2 lety +3

      Arthur Rubinstein used to use hair spray on the keytops to get more grip. The newer plastic keytops are actually quite good.

    • @avsystem3142
      @avsystem3142 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ThePianoforever The incident occurred about six or seven years ago.

    • @randykern1842
      @randykern1842 Před 2 lety +1

      It HAS to do, ivory has been banned for over half a century now

    • @brucetominello325
      @brucetominello325 Před 2 lety

      My Steinway Model C 1886 has its original ivories and ebonies. As well as the original key action which is fully playable.You can see it on display at the Musical Instrument in Phoenix on the second floor just outside the elevators.

  • @Fsuholley
    @Fsuholley Před 2 lety +2

    That sound….heavenly.

  • @michaelpeck3844
    @michaelpeck3844 Před 2 lety +10

    What was the name and composer of the piece you played ?? Very nice to hear James

  • @feraldynaufal
    @feraldynaufal Před 2 lety +7

    Luxurious in both sound and aesthetic.
    Seems fun to play too!
    With 97 keys, maybe it can be played by 3 people at once. 😅

  • @zerksari
    @zerksari Před 2 lety +1

    What a beast. Not worthy of such an instrument. Yet.

  • @kamranhamidfar1725
    @kamranhamidfar1725 Před 2 lety +3

    I like the portability of this piano to take it around more conveniently.

  • @billbligh4547
    @billbligh4547 Před 2 lety +4

    I believe Count Basie called the extra keys the soul keys.
    Loved your reprise of the Imperial from a few years ago.

    • @MrNicks-gn8jc
      @MrNicks-gn8jc Před 2 lety

      There is a video of Oscar Peterson and Count Basie doing duets on a ?70s? Bosendorfer and The Count went into how the 'extra keys' threw him off and his playing shifted 1 octave without him noticing....so, in being his gracious self, Oscar Peterson covered the lowest octave so Count would not get 'shifted'.

  • @richardholmquist7316
    @richardholmquist7316 Před 2 lety +19

    Busoni was known as a composer and incredible pianist. His compositions aren't played a great deal today, though.

    • @maclayyc
      @maclayyc Před 2 lety +6

      His popular transcription of Bach's Chaconne feels like time stops for 20 minutes

    • @henrykwieniawski7233
      @henrykwieniawski7233 Před 2 lety +2

      His compositions may not be played often, but his transcriptions of Bach's works sure as hell are!

  • @Griwhoolda
    @Griwhoolda Před 2 lety +8

    Field trip, everyone! Let's go!

    • @jtc1947
      @jtc1947 Před 2 lety +1

      They would ban me from the store! I am a LOUSY pianist! But maybe I could drag James in??

  • @tejasb1239
    @tejasb1239 Před rokem

    Would give anything in the world to get my hands on this wonderful piano!
    Imagine, if Bosendorfer started making digital pianos, we also will end up hearing 97-keyed Yamaha pianos as well.

  • @Kurtdog63
    @Kurtdog63 Před 2 lety

    I have an inexpensive Yamaha electric keyboard. I don't know how they sampled the grand piano sound on it, but it is quite amazing, and I have a pretty picky ear. I had an Alesis Nanopiano sound module that quit working years ago. It claimed to have a phase accurate piano sound sampled from a Bosendorfer. It definitely had an amazingly rich, piano tone.

  • @allenhickman5914
    @allenhickman5914 Před 2 lety +1

    That is one thing that to me is missing with the Yamaha Genos... those lower notes that an 88 key (or more) has... I know I can use the - octave key (which I do quite frequently...especially as the last note). First time I've seen a 97 key piano...Cool video. Thanks! I now have a DGX670 as well, for that reason alone.

  • @modernmusicofthedarkages296

    What’s the first piece you played?

  • @ryanl3260
    @ryanl3260 Před 2 lety +2

    What’s the name of that composition you played? Sounded great!

  • @789armstrong
    @789armstrong Před 2 lety +1

    I would love to hear some Medtner on this remarkable instrument.

  • @claustrophobicbeast
    @claustrophobicbeast Před 2 lety +1

    James! Please Please PLEASE do a p125 vs. DGX-670. Or at least a detailed DGX-670 review! THANK YOU!

  • @bennetthernandez8583
    @bennetthernandez8583 Před 2 lety +5

    Hey james! Bug fan of the channel! I have a question what is the first piece you played on the Bosendorfer? Thanks!

  • @jboushka
    @jboushka Před 2 lety +2

    What was the first work you played? It sounded like Chopin but I couldn't place it.

  • @PeterBatah
    @PeterBatah Před 2 lety +1

    Massive

  • @WalyB01
    @WalyB01 Před 2 lety

    Ow i dreamed of owning a Bosendorfer since well I started playing piano

    • @CLASSICALFAN100
      @CLASSICALFAN100 Před 2 lety

      "People who own mink, dream of wearing ermine. People who own a piano, dream of one day owning a Bechstein." **Truer words were never spoken!**
      www.bechstein.com/en/upright-grand-pianos/

  • @transforminggravity15626
    @transforminggravity15626 Před 2 lety +1

    Cool 💯💯😎✌️

  • @kathleentrued9359
    @kathleentrued9359 Před 2 lety +9

    James - please let us know your chosen performance repertoire. I delighted in the first , but can’t identify it🤔 Thanks😁

  • @amascia8327
    @amascia8327 Před 2 lety +4

    ~9 1/2 feet...
    15:50 Extended bass... The organ could play C0 which is about 16.4hz with the 32 foot pipes
    PS: I've always wondered if the looped strings tune as well...?¿

  • @gregaltenhofel7326
    @gregaltenhofel7326 Před 2 lety +1

    I was watching an Oscar Peterson concert the other day and he was playing with Count Basie and I think both were playing the Bosendorfer 290. I think that was the video I was watching when Oscar was talking about it and it's extra keys. I got the impression he by this time always played one in concert. As to if he traveled with one I haven't researched that yet.

    • @BarryWaterlow
      @BarryWaterlow Před 2 lety +1

      Yes Oscar Peterson had a white Bosendorfer 290 that he bought at Remenyi Music in Toronto. Was lucky to be able to play it while still at the shop.

  • @Ghostmanriding
    @Ghostmanriding Před 2 lety +2

    Kim's is an excellent store.

  • @auriplane
    @auriplane Před 2 lety

    Have you ever heard of the Alexander piano in New Zealand? I just read about it the other day, and I thought of your channel.

    • @ThePianoforever
      @ThePianoforever  Před 2 lety

      I have, but I never knew its name! I'd love to see it hahaha!

  • @Iceland874
    @Iceland874 Před 2 lety +2

    My favorite brand by far. Schimmel is close behind. Are you doing sign language?

  • @Adam_Pianist
    @Adam_Pianist Před 2 lety +3

    I wonder if there are any digital keyboards that have these extra bass keys. Would be fun to play with!

    • @trueredlucky954
      @trueredlucky954 Před 2 lety +1

      Not needed most keyboards got a transposing feature.

  • @john-paulgies4313
    @john-paulgies4313 Před 2 lety +1

    A Great Grand Piano.

  • @tortuedelanuit2299
    @tortuedelanuit2299 Před 2 lety +1

    Busoni was also a great composer. Take a listen to his 75 minute piano concerto.

  • @saricubra2867
    @saricubra2867 Před 2 lety +3

    The gigantic soundboard helps. A Steinway D fails a little to sustain the highest notes, the 290 Imperial handles them perfectly.

  • @Walnutpaste
    @Walnutpaste Před 2 lety +2

    can finally play the really low G# in gaspard de la nuit that ravel had to leave out because it wasn’t on the piano

  • @cornwalldragon4617
    @cornwalldragon4617 Před 2 lety +4

    Yes you wouldn't want to play the 32' contra bombarde or the 64' Dulzian on their own. But yeah they add that extra weight to the bass. Technically if that piano was an 85 key instrument, it would be equivalent to the 85 key manuals on some Midmer Losh instruments. So with the extra keys, you have a six octave piano.

  • @wawacool9147
    @wawacool9147 Před 2 lety +1

    do you prefer this one or 280VC?

  • @eliotmccann2589
    @eliotmccann2589 Před 2 lety

    Am I right in thinking that this is the model that Frank Zappa owned? I recall reading he had a Bösendorfer with thr extra octave.

  • @jamesrawlins735
    @jamesrawlins735 Před 2 lety +7

    One day I would love to hear James check out the Stuart and Sons Beleura - 108 keys - nine full octaves

    • @ThePianoforever
      @ThePianoforever  Před 2 lety +7

      Unfortunately, this will never happen - have you seen my video about that maker? It's... interesting.

  • @carlobollen6868
    @carlobollen6868 Před 2 lety

    Isn't this the model Havasi is using in his concerts ?

  • @NoahSuaz
    @NoahSuaz Před 2 lety +1

    What is the song played at 8:43? Thank you!

  • @benedictdsilva3954
    @benedictdsilva3954 Před 2 lety

    Busoni was a transcriber....the lowest C on the 290 is 16 hertz equal to the 32' ..For the 64' you will need another octave of notes notes ...or you have to play root and 5th...

  • @beverleysmith133
    @beverleysmith133 Před 2 lety +1

    Would love to put my fingers on one of those.

  • @OzzieWozzieOriginal
    @OzzieWozzieOriginal Před 2 lety +2

    I wonder how many pianos were destroyed during WW2

  • @mauriziobussinello
    @mauriziobussinello Před 2 lety +2

    Hi James I follow you with great pleasure, you are very nice but very Professional, I live in Italy my name is Maurizio and I have just turned 60, for my birthday I gave myself a piano course, an instrument I have long wanted to play, now I have decided to buy my first keyboard, and ask you for advice.
    I would like a keyboard that reproduces as faithfully as possible an acoustic piano mechanics, and at the same time the possibility of playing with sounds, my indecision is about
    Kawai ES110 or Yamaha P125 or go up economically and buy a
    Kawai MP7SE or Roland RD88.
    I like the Kawai MP7 SE most of all, however I am also open to other suggestions
    thank you keep it up, your suggestions on the mechanics of the weighted keys are very important to understand, maybe they may not like it but they help to understand.
    Congratulations and good luck.
    Maurizio

  • @atzonaftaniel4798
    @atzonaftaniel4798 Před 2 lety

    9:29 what's the name of this musicplay?

  • @CLASSICALFAN100
    @CLASSICALFAN100 Před 2 lety +2

    **BIG AS A BLUE WHALE**
    It's so big that it takes up the entire stage, and the pianist is playing from offstage...(ROFL)

  • @crespojosef
    @crespojosef Před 2 lety

    I’m so sorry you weren’t able to play any more classical pieces.

  • @garrettshook5084
    @garrettshook5084 Před 2 lety +2

    17:20 you might hit the brown note!!!

  • @thecanadian6145
    @thecanadian6145 Před 2 lety +2

    We need some Rachmaninoff played on that piano

  • @10bit8
    @10bit8 Před 2 lety +6

    i wonder how many people knew he played a minecraft song

  • @myuncle2
    @myuncle2 Před 2 lety +2

    Great strings+spruce beams+thin rim+open cast iron frame=Bosie

    • @ThePianoforever
      @ThePianoforever  Před 2 lety +2

      One recipe for a great piano!

    • @myuncle2
      @myuncle2 Před 2 lety

      @@ThePianoforever exactly, something the other pianos should copy without fear of copyright issues :)

  • @juanferrequetglas4444
    @juanferrequetglas4444 Před 2 lety +2

    You surprised me with tht minecraft haha

  • @Roarshark12
    @Roarshark12 Před 2 lety +1

    I LOVE your smile at 1:42 :)

  • @IvanRx76
    @IvanRx76 Před 2 lety +1

    I like your jackets man

  • @Critique808
    @Critique808 Před 2 lety +2

    Why would someone want this in their living room?

  • @ralphrestubog5519
    @ralphrestubog5519 Před 2 lety +10

    There are piano shops that don't let people get a feel of their pianos?? SACRILEGE. By the way, have you reviewed the 280VC yet? I wonder if it's actually meant to replace the 290.

    • @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12
      @MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 Před 2 lety +1

      How can you sell pianos and not let people try them?🎹🎶

    • @ThePianoforever
      @ThePianoforever  Před 2 lety +1

      The 280VC is an outstanding piano, I have done a couple videos of them over the years. The best one was at NAMM.

  • @JanPBtest
    @JanPBtest Před 2 lety +1

    13:44 _WHAT??_

  • @Johnwilkinsonofficial
    @Johnwilkinsonofficial Před 2 lety +1

    18:41 lol

  • @joshflynn4465
    @joshflynn4465 Před 2 lety +1

    A Bösendorfer 290 with 92 keys? ;-)