How was the KELVIN TIMELINE Created In Universe? | Star Trek Explained

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • The Kelvin Timeline is the the set of films from JJ Abrams that started in 2009. Although these films, at first glance may just seem like a simple reboot, there is a lot more to it than that, and they actually exist alongside the prime timeline. In todays video we break down how the timeline was created within the Star Trek Universe.
    Hope you enjoy!
    Written By Marcus Armstrong.
    #StarTrek #KelvinTimeline #StarTrekExplained

Komentáře • 72

  • @Fr33dan
    @Fr33dan Před rokem +14

    Thank you for calling it this, I called it the Kelvin timeline in the comments on another video awhile back and got multiple replies along the lines of "who calls it that?" and was begining to feel like I was crazy.

  • @MusicFromAnotherTime
    @MusicFromAnotherTime Před rokem +9

    Anytime a friend/co-worker who isn't into Star Trek asks about the Kelvin movies and I say its not a reboot, but an alternate timeline I always have to mentally prepare myself for the convoluted explanation I'm about to give. I honestly just give up like halfway through.

    • @davidponseigo8811
      @davidponseigo8811 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I have had many similar conversations so don't feel to bad.

  • @BONDORK2
    @BONDORK2 Před rokem +12

    6th Ranger?! Small world, automatically subbing tho! Also the Kelvin movies got me into trek hardcore so I'll always love them and hope we get that 4th movie.

    • @federationoutpost
      @federationoutpost  Před rokem +2

      Thanks! :D Been quiet on this channel lately but more content coming soon!

  • @cliffordterrell5524
    @cliffordterrell5524 Před rokem +4

    I don't have much to say about the. Kelvin timeline. But I absolutely love the music. The main theme is fabulous

    • @niidea927
      @niidea927 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Hell yeah, Michael Giacchino is genius as always 💪🏽👌🏽🙏🏼

  • @JacekJurewicz
    @JacekJurewicz Před 10 měsíci +4

    In the Countdown comic released before the 2009 movie (which has by now been contradicted by canon), the Narada was enhanced with Borg technology, which explains why it's much more powerful than just a mining ship. Do the newer non-canon materials offer an explanation for this?

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 Před 7 měsíci

      ofc Some often say the IRW Nerda in Prime Timeline was once an imperial Mining Ship that before its enhancements once started out as an imperial Romulan Mining Ship commanded by romulan commander Nero before the Talshiar found out some potential in Nero and his ship and eventualy utilized him and his ship offering him a place in the Talshiar which he all to willingly accepted.
      Thus he found his ship recived secret Tal Shiar Borg Techno Enhancements. This so called interdimensional dissapearence Nero's mining ship thru a singularity thru to the JJverse was eventualy covered up by the Talshiar of the Prime Trek universe in an attempt to be swept under the rug and upon entering the JJverse that borg enhanced ship destroyed the USS Kelvin after that ships attempt to defend itself thus the JJ -Verse timeline earned the name Kelvin timeline

    • @Aahmpower
      @Aahmpower Před 3 měsíci

      That'll explain the incredible power level that such originally mining ship had
      Also I believe it was mentioned somewhere that before the events of the 2009 movie, The Narada was going on a rampage against the Klingons

  • @georgemario6115
    @georgemario6115 Před 10 dny

    Say whatever you want about JJ Abrams, but he did make an awesome star trek remake (with the incredible plot twist about the alternate reality), a great MIF sequel, which gave a boost to the series and he did make a hugely successful episode of star wars!!! The man has great ideas about sci fi and adventures as long as the studios let him to make the movies he wants to make.

  • @LDDivision
    @LDDivision Před rokem +3

    Could you imagine a TNG-era series set in the Kelvin Timeline?! The Enterprise may/may not be on the D yet (the battle at Narendra-3 would have gone much different), but it would BE SUPREMELY OP! A Borg encounter would mean almost-nothing.... Unless they were able to takeover the technology since it's similarly based. But, it would be so far advanced beyond the base Borg tech, that practically no one in the galaxy would be able to hold their own. Thankfully Starfleet are the good guys... 🤔 most of the time....

    • @federationoutpost
      @federationoutpost  Před rokem +1

      Yeah I love thinking about how the future would go in the Kelvin timeline! Maybe an interesting idea for a future "what if" series 🤔

    • @LDDivision
      @LDDivision Před rokem

      @@federationoutpost That would be a video series I'd want to watch. It's be like your-own "Short Treks". And examining what could happen forward in the Kelvin Timeline would be super intriguing! I think most of the major wars would be a wash, but what could that even mean for life on TNG all the way to Lower Decks.

  • @KaiCrafted
    @KaiCrafted Před rokem +1

    Great video, dig the new channel! @ 8:36 did you know that's the wrong Defiant or are y'all trolling us?

    • @federationoutpost
      @federationoutpost  Před rokem +2

      Thanks! Haha yes we noticed after it was up. Just a mistake from the editor 😅

  • @robertgaines-tulsa
    @robertgaines-tulsa Před 9 měsíci +1

    The timeline thing was a bit confusing. I heard that CBS declared that the Kelvin Timeline was the Prime Timeline, and everything before was no longer canon. I guess they changed their minds after Star Trek Beyond kind of bombed. CBS and Paramount were also having IP rights issues the companies were split apart after Enterprise. I guess when they merged back together, they just got the green light to make original timeline Trek again. I do have some minor nitpicks about about some of the created changes. I'm not a fan of how they changed the buzzard collectors on the Enterprise D. They made it look like they had three, old-style collectors in the collectors, but I don't think that was ever intended. The Next Generation was a big budget show. They could have made it look like that if they wanted. I mean, they made it like like that with the shoestring budget of TOS. The other thing was the androids' eyes lighting up when it was looking up something. I personally just find it off and weird. Androids don't need little monitors in their eyes to access info.

  • @phillipwalters7702
    @phillipwalters7702 Před rokem +4

    Hello Federation Outpost 1-11. Really great job on the explanation of the Kelvin timeline in the Star Trek franchise. You made the explanation easy to understand by state fact that I wasn't well aware of, maybe because I haven't seen some of the new Star Trek series, like Picard or skipped some details just in general.
    Anyways thank you for this really interesting video. It was really good and helped to clarify something that had been bugging me in the Star Trek franchise. Hope all goes well for you and can't wait to see more Star Trek related content from you soon. Peace out to you and 🖖, Federation Outpost 1-11.
    P.S: I was just wondering if you guys use an updated version of the Star Trek Encyclopedia for your research?

    • @federationoutpost
      @federationoutpost  Před rokem +2

      Thanks Phillip! A lot is done from memory, but yeah I have a few books I refer to for research. A visual encyclopedia and The Star Trek Book are both great

    • @xp8969
      @xp8969 Před rokem

      None of the Star Trek series are in the Kelvin Timeline, it only exists in the new movies

    • @phillipwalters7702
      @phillipwalters7702 Před rokem

      @@xp8969You do make a good point and yes, I agree with you on your point that they maybe only in the movies, but this video dealt with the overall timeline and where the movie events happen.

  • @ramdashadkar7
    @ramdashadkar7 Před rokem

    High quality of video !! Great work explaining

  • @italianviking80
    @italianviking80 Před rokem +3

    Having Picard ask Bruce Maddox to develop non-sentient androids is a little odd. This is the same Bruce Maddox (albeit a different actor) from the TNG episode "Measure of a Man."

    • @federationoutpost
      @federationoutpost  Před rokem +3

      Yeah and by the end of that episode, he has come to respect Data. Seeing him almost as human. So maybe it was like a character development thing? 🤷🏼‍♂️😅

  • @Casey-lb6se
    @Casey-lb6se Před rokem

    Didn't realize this was your channel when I clicked on it and was pleasantly surprised

  • @MrPooh18
    @MrPooh18 Před rokem +4

    The timeline wasnt supposedly changed to the Kelvin timeline till AFTER Nero came through. So explain why Kirk wasnt born in Iowa? Explain why Kirks parents were on the doomed Kelvin? The prime timeline should have been in effect until Nero came through and changed the timeline.

    • @JustJessee
      @JustJessee Před 10 měsíci +4

      So....had assumed the Kelvin was on its way back to Earth before it encountered the incident/Nero. Winona went into labor early due to the stress of what was happening or was unable to have her early labor slowed down due to having to evacuate the Kelvin. Had there not been a bigass black hole and Romulan megaship in their path, she would have made it back to Iowa before delivering James T.
      That's how I took it.

    • @MrPooh18
      @MrPooh18 Před 10 měsíci +1

      That makes sense with assuming of course. Also what was Kirks mom even doing on the ship? Did the Kelvin pick her up in route to earth because as far as I know families werent allowed until the galaxy class ships came out in Picard's era. One other thing that bugs me is when Nero lowers the drill to Vulcan. Seems it would be a simple thing to just blast the cable. Surely there were ships on vulcan that could have severed the drill cable.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@MrPooh18 unless the Narada wiped out the Vulcan ships along with the Federation starfleet that arrived.

  • @strength9621
    @strength9621 Před rokem +2

    This film is what actually made me a fan of Star Trek, I thought Star Trek was some geek Pg show or something, as a kid.

  • @hsharrott
    @hsharrott Před rokem +3

    The kelvin timeline was created AFTER Nero came through correct? So prior to this event it should still be the prime timeline wouldnt it? These time warp/timeline themes mess me up!

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 Před 7 měsíci

      the name Kelvin Timeline was the result after the destruction of the JJverse- USS Kelvin by Nero's borg enhanced romulan Mining ship.

    • @hsharrott
      @hsharrott Před 7 měsíci +1

      Ok, Many times in star Trek TOS and the movies specifically Star Trek IV Kirk made references to being born in Iowa. So what was Kirks mother doing on the Kelvin? Was she on her way back to earth to give birth and the return was interrupted by Nero? Its never explained.

    • @3rdPartyIntervener
      @3rdPartyIntervener Před 5 měsíci

      @@hsharrott doesn't need to be explained - you figured it out all on your own.

  • @Cmb351
    @Cmb351 Před rokem

    Great explanation!

  • @MRSYSTEM96
    @MRSYSTEM96 Před rokem +1

    it would be interesting to see the Dominion War during the Kelvin timeline. I would like if they made a tv show of the Enterprise B or C

  • @dragonvaultgames
    @dragonvaultgames Před rokem

    Fascinating.

  • @nactrumofficial5450
    @nactrumofficial5450 Před rokem +1

    I choose to see Star Trek: Discovery and Strange New Worlds as being set in an alternate timeline, much like the Kelvin timeline. It's the only way to explain Discovery's ability to "flip" from one reality to another, and why Strange New Worlds' technology is more advanced than that of the original Enterprise NCC-1701. It also could explain why the Gorn are no longer Lizard Men, but more raptor-like beings that crawl on all fours and resemble Geiger's Alien. So many changes in these series can only be explained by being set in alternate timelines, while keeping the original stories intact.

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I cant imagine what kind of timeline Strange New Worlds is set in but compared to Star Trek Discovery or Disco as most fans call that I bet Discovery is set in the Discoverse timeline aka the Mycelial timeline which I personaly would name that after the Mycelial Spore network

  • @Isaac-gh5ku
    @Isaac-gh5ku Před 8 měsíci

    My brain hurts when I find out that the Kelvin Timeline is still has connections to the Prime Timeline and is canon to the Prime Timeline.

  • @larryaldrich4351
    @larryaldrich4351 Před rokem

    I still have trouble understanding how Abrams movies connect with Berman's pictures.

    • @xp8969
      @xp8969 Před rokem

      It's simple, they don't connect at all

  • @doorman113681
    @doorman113681 Před 4 měsíci

    E Gary Mitchell story

  • @kajunsblerdeye9325
    @kajunsblerdeye9325 Před rokem

    I came over from 6th ranger

    • @federationoutpost
      @federationoutpost  Před rokem

      Awesome. Live long and prosper and may the power protect you 🖖⚡

  • @jv-lk7bc
    @jv-lk7bc Před 7 měsíci

    wait the sausage is made how again?

  • @chrisharknessdcfan
    @chrisharknessdcfan Před rokem +1

    Out of the 3 new movies I like star trek beyond

  • @artistpoet5253
    @artistpoet5253 Před rokem

    Nice way to write in the need to be 25% different for licencing purposes.

  • @tomlichnofsky.7048
    @tomlichnofsky.7048 Před rokem

    🖖🖖😊🖖🖖

  • @rebootamericadopes
    @rebootamericadopes Před měsícem

    No no no! Man Do I need to make my own video?
    I've been posting for years about this all over youtube.
    Please refer to the book. Star trek the flight chronometer. Printer in the early 80s. Its a prime time history book of the future. From the "moon landings" ( hehe yeah I said it) to kirks era. The process is slow and arduous as progress usually is.
    The prime university is only from St.tos to st.ng.
    The scene of the crime is star trek first contact.
    "Never help a chick break out of its shell. You will mentally and physically retard its development"
    By helping. Zepfrim. And showing them future tech. They contaminated the time line. Thats why. ST.enterprise was too advances. And from there ST.discovery. and so on. It became a new prime line. And with the but her interference of Spock and Nero the j.j verse
    As for the schizophrenia of the kirtsman trek. Blame that.on the lawyers. The star Trek IP was sold to 3 companies. And each needs to be slightly different as to not have a civil war if infringement. So stupid.
    Picard had it right when he quoted Shakespeare. " kill all the lawyers!!"

  • @LordMetalSonic1987
    @LordMetalSonic1987 Před rokem

    Why is it even called the "Kelvin" timeline?
    On another note, wouldn't Spock be dead during the events of TNG?

    • @federationoutpost
      @federationoutpost  Před rokem +3

      It was an internal name given to it by the studio I believe. Named after the USS Kelvin that Nero attacks 😊

    • @augiegirl1
      @augiegirl1 Před rokem +2

      Vulcans' lifespan is more than 200 years. Spock appears in the TNG episodes “Unification I & II” (season 5, episodes 7 & 8).

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 Před 8 měsíci

      @@federationoutpost Thats exactly what I thought and how it was also thought too on STO according to Temporal agent Daniels

  • @elchicko1976
    @elchicko1976 Před rokem +1

    There is no "Kelvin timeline". Because J.J.‘s movies are just bad Star Trek parody. … Just as his Star Wars parodys. 😒

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 Před 8 měsíci

      Bullshit there is no chancei n hell that the JJverse has anything to do with Star Wars as that is owned by Disney and Disney's hold on Star Wars is a compleatly different Copyrighted IP based hold compared to 2009 Trek and the Kelvin Timeline if you have a hate to that then feel free to take ur hate to the nearest airlock

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Před 7 měsíci +1

      They exist now, there's no point in griping about it. Besides there are other Trekkies out there that make the Kelvin Timeline more palatable than the current version.

  • @lawrencescott1048
    @lawrencescott1048 Před rokem +3

    I personally HATE the Kelvin timeline, the death of Captain Pike, the humiliating destruction of the Enterprise, a fairy playing Spock and to me it's just not STAR TREK, also making KHAN WHITE instead of middle east indian like he was originally portrayed and other little annoying things.

    • @angelicagaldos
      @angelicagaldos Před rokem +2

      Same here. No wonder it is taking forever to make a fourth film IF it ever comes out. We have it a chance. We can agree that JJ should not touch another SciFi film.

    • @lawrencescott1048
      @lawrencescott1048 Před rokem +2

      @@angelicagaldos Agreed, I'm not too anxious to see another JJ Kevin timeline movie at all.

  • @michaelwhiles5282
    @michaelwhiles5282 Před měsícem

    There is no Kevin time line, it’s all trash trek and none canon 😵😵‍💫😊

  • @michaelwhiles5282
    @michaelwhiles5282 Před měsícem

    There is no kelvin timeline it’s all none canon trash 😵😵‍💫😎

  • @davemiller6055
    @davemiller6055 Před 10 měsíci

    The Kelvin Timeline was created due to bad writing. Best to ignore it.

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 Před 8 měsíci

      normally it would still be reffered to as the JJverse after the man that created the trek reboot but the reason its reffered to as the Kelvin Timeline was after the destruction of the USS Kelvin itself thx to the I.R.W Nevada mining ship if im not mistaken?

    • @davemiller6055
      @davemiller6055 Před 8 měsíci

      @@FLAME4564 I only saw the film once and I'm trying to forget it. Sounds about right though.

  • @davemiller6055
    @davemiller6055 Před 10 měsíci

    The Kelvin Timeline, and all other Nu Trek suck.

    • @FLAME4564
      @FLAME4564 Před 8 měsíci

      haha XD at least you have the dignatiy to show some common sense and what i call some mature sensible hate with dignaty and not bring up anything to do with star wars

    • @davemiller6055
      @davemiller6055 Před 8 měsíci

      @@FLAME4564
      The cast was good. But the writing, conceptualization, and direction was what killed it. It wasn't like Star Trek at all. Star Trek in name only.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@davemiller6055 like it could've been better, even other trekkies did a better job at reinterpretation of the Kelvin Timeline.