Kudos for the UI design! It is subtle, clear, instantaneous! The device looks like something that I am often doing within the Instrument rack with Simpler modulations, but the sample slots and a button to grab the signal on the fly without the necessity of using armed clips could be fun! It would be PERFECT if I could use it in a floating, scaling window, like the OPAL by fors for example. It would help me a lot with poor vision and use on the laptop screen.
just picked it up. many thanks. 🙏 i'm going to try a DIY Chompi style keyboard using Catch, Petal (Takuma Matsui), autochroma (Imagiro) or Granulator II w/ input (Monolake), and Transit (Baby Audio) p.s. Auto Trigger Mode + Position is delicious. 😁
Amazing! Long awaited! But you’d be surprised at how many Ableton users NEVER USED MAX ! Even after owning live for years. Never had to! A quick installation video tutorial including the wonders of Max for live (starting with your own devices)would definitely boost sales. Nobody is doing it! Ableton videos? Millions. Max? zzzzzzzzz. It’s one of those “Everybody thinks everyone already knows “ situations. We don’t! Hip hop guys? Forget about it. But you got yourself an amazing sampler concept!
Wow! This is cool, but it needs to have a slicing function. It will makes this device great for a live breaks in live performances. For example, if i made a live loop on my external synths and i want to resample it live and rearrange slices in different way to make a variation of my pattern. Than I can crossfade between my live performance and resample channel. Thank you!)
Very Nice. A thought : It would be extremely interesting if you were able to assign precise Midi Notes to MIDI Arm and REC. So that if you then hit it with a looping sequence containing these notes it would continually resample the incoming audio, at rhythmic intervals. ( These specific notes would obviously also need to be blocked from triggering playback. You could ( for example ) use the first Octave for the Arm/REC notes. ) If you could also then assign _different_ Midi note pairs to a number of _separate slots’_ MIDI Arm and REC, you could then hit the device with a looping sequence containing all of these notes that ( in combination with other “normal” notes that are triggering the samples ! ) would automatically create a perpetually changing polyphonic “moiré” resampling of the source audio. Which could be very powerful for forms of generative music, especially if your various different slots are pre-transposed, looped etc at different values. Then, if you had the notes triggering ARM/REC in a _separate_ sequence from the notes triggering playback, you could then simply MUTE that “REC sequence” when you had something you liked. I’m not sure if anything exists out there allows you to do that ??? Since this is Max, should be easy enough to add, no ? ;-) Anyway … very nice device as is, just dreaming ! …
@@novelmus Thanks for the reply. Hmmmm. I’d have to be in front of it to see if that could work. Hopefully tomorrow I’ll have the time to get hold of it ! But do you understand what I’m getting at, or is it incomprehensible ? I just had this vision of a very complex multi-timbrai automated sampling machine that you could sort of spend a bit of time setting up, and then improvise into ( improvise both the audio you are sampling and the Midi that will be « playing » the samples … ) seems like it could be set up so that you could throw stuff at it and ( depending what the audio and the midi you were hitting it with was ) you could be real-time generating stuff in an area aesthetically somewhere around things like Music for Airports or mid-period Steve Reich or Gamelan or more pointillistic European free improv etc !!! … Well that was the idea anyway ;-)
@@novelmus oh that’s awesome. Zoom isn’t essential really. The shift function is going to be just fine by ear most of the time. Maybe a toggle for fine adjustment? I’m really digging this device though. The way it works sampling is kind of like a cross between koala sampler and an octatrack.
Great device ! I would like to be able to save track input parameter when loading Catch but it doesn't seems to work for Ableton tracks per example 'Master', however it does save the audio input if it come from the audio interface (exemple : microphone)
@@ginotubbo1531 Yes, it is still planned : ) Currently, you can create polyphony by loading many copies into a drum rack, but it takes quite a bit of setup.
looks good and the price is right but seems like a crowded market especially since ableton and logic both have really good samplers and serato has a sampler with stem separation but similar concpets , not to mention the sitala (paid or free)
Catch cannot do everything that Simpler has on board, but the opposite is also true. The value proposition here is live sampling in Ableton, a quick and simple interface, and some interesting variation parameters. What that is worth is totally subjective of course, just depends on the workflow that is best suited for your creativity.
Question: can you put i.e. 16 instances (or more) of Catch in a drum rack and grab sound instantly in each pad i.e. via midi controller? this way you could treat every pad i.e. with different effects or parameters... would it be cpu expensive?
I would love to have the onboard quick zone assign option and velocity threshold, but if I get it right, the device has been designed as a one sampler player that can be multiplied, sharing the banks, so for that use I should nest it in the multichain instrument rack and patch it, am I right?
This looks really cool! The only thing I’m wondering is whether it’s possible to record time synced samples? This would give it the option to work as a creative looper With the stock looper I’ve noticed that programming record start/stop in scene automation isn’t quite accurate and will lead to unworkable loops (either not exactly time-synced, or slightly pitch shifted to fit the tempo)
@@novelmus That’s cool! The stock looper is nearly perfect too - but when recording harmonic content (acoustic guitar) the slightest error in length will lead to quite obvious pitch shifting as the sample is stretched to fill the measure. Or - if not stretched - the loop doesn’t loop quite seamlessly Have you tried this with for example a synth? And what happens if you keep the result looping multiple times over a metronome? This could be a great solution for me as I’ve been looking for a sampler device that does live recording. But making perfect loops is a necessity with live-looping performances!
@@RJ_Eckie Catch doesn’t do audio warping like Ableton. Pitch and speed are coupled. I think it would work fine for whatever material, but it would be best to resync it every bar by sending it MIDI note 60.
@@novelmus yeah i gathered that it doesn’t do warping, but retriggering the sample every bar doesn’t guarantee a seamless loop, so it still kinda doesn’t answer my question in that regard
I purchased about a month ago and unfortunately have barely gotten any use out of it because it crashes ableton within minutes of opening every time. is there an update coming or any suggestions you can make? im running a gaming PC with 64 gigs of RAM and i7 processor so there's no reason it should be overwhelming my CPU.
@@novelmus I see! Great detailed description in the manual, that’s missing for many other M4L devices. Hopefully Ableton will support more advanced audio routing through M4L on Push soon 🙏🏻
Man, i wish this was a VST. Really nice work!
Maybe some day!
Kudos for the UI design! It is subtle, clear, instantaneous! The device looks like something that I am often doing within the Instrument rack with Simpler modulations, but the sample slots and a button to grab the signal on the fly without the necessity of using armed clips could be fun!
It would be PERFECT if I could use it in a floating, scaling window, like the OPAL by fors for example. It would help me a lot with poor vision and use on the laptop screen.
Thank you for the floating window suggestion...will definitely consider that!
just picked it up. many thanks. 🙏 i'm going to try a DIY Chompi style keyboard using Catch, Petal (Takuma Matsui), autochroma (Imagiro) or Granulator II w/ input (Monolake), and Transit (Baby Audio) p.s. Auto Trigger Mode + Position is delicious. 😁
Amazing! Long awaited!
But you’d be surprised at how many Ableton users NEVER USED MAX !
Even after owning live for years.
Never had to!
A quick installation video tutorial including the wonders of Max for live (starting with your own devices)would definitely boost sales.
Nobody is doing it!
Ableton videos?
Millions.
Max?
zzzzzzzzz.
It’s one of those “Everybody thinks everyone already knows “ situations.
We don’t!
Hip hop guys?
Forget about it.
But you got yourself an amazing sampler concept!
ELPHNT has made some really nice "Why M4L is So Cool" videos - czcams.com/video/WObOMJH8N4E/video.html
Great device Ian! Being able to share the 128 slots of Catch across all Ableton's track instances or drum racks is brilliant!
Wow! This is cool, but it needs to have a slicing function. It will makes this device great for a live breaks in live performances. For example, if i made a live loop on my external synths and i want to resample it live and rearrange slices in different way to make a variation of my pattern. Than I can crossfade between my live performance and resample channel. Thank you!)
I will certainly consider that, thanks for the suggestion!
Brilliant!!! Instant-buy. The deviation is a super great addition, looks like you can 'expand' it to a higher level in feature updates.
I try it today. Such a fun to work with. Really good job. Thanks a lot.
Bought it yesterday. Amazing stuff!
That's a great device, Ian! I love the design and aesthetics!
TY! Simple is best : )
Very Nice.
A thought : It would be extremely interesting if you were able to assign precise Midi Notes to MIDI Arm and REC.
So that if you then hit it with a looping sequence containing these notes it would continually resample the incoming audio, at rhythmic intervals.
( These specific notes would obviously also need to be blocked from triggering playback. You could ( for example ) use the first Octave for the Arm/REC notes. )
If you could also then assign _different_ Midi note pairs to a number of _separate slots’_ MIDI Arm and REC, you could then hit the device with a looping sequence containing all of these notes that ( in combination with other “normal” notes that are triggering the samples ! ) would automatically create a perpetually changing polyphonic “moiré” resampling of the source audio.
Which could be very powerful for forms of generative music, especially if your various different slots are pre-transposed, looped etc at different values.
Then, if you had the notes triggering ARM/REC in a _separate_ sequence from the notes triggering playback, you could then simply MUTE that “REC sequence” when you had something you liked.
I’m not sure if anything exists out there allows you to do that ???
Since this is Max, should be easy enough to add, no ? ;-)
Anyway … very nice device as is, just dreaming ! …
Most of the parameters on Catch are mappable by CC and MIDI note, including MIDI Arm and REC! : )
@@novelmus Thanks for the reply. Hmmmm.
I’d have to be in front of it to see if that could work.
Hopefully tomorrow I’ll have the time to get hold of it !
But do you understand what I’m getting at, or is it incomprehensible ?
I just had this vision of a very complex multi-timbrai automated sampling machine that you could sort of spend a bit of time setting up, and then improvise into ( improvise both the audio you are sampling and the Midi that will be « playing » the samples … ) seems like it could be set up so that you could throw stuff at it and ( depending what the audio and the midi you were hitting it with was ) you could be real-time generating stuff in an area aesthetically somewhere around things like Music for Airports or mid-period Steve Reich or Gamelan or more pointillistic European free improv etc !!! …
Well that was the idea anyway ;-)
@@grainmachine That sounds lovely. Please post a video if you are happy with the results!
nice i cant wait to try it out
What a fantastic device! 👏I would buy this in a shot if it had a direction mode toggle that allowed reverse from playhead (for “record scratching” )
I am going to look into including that in version 1.1. Might be some technical things that keep it from happening, but I'll see!
Great device!!
Looks awesome!
interesting feedback possibilitiessssss
oh my god
Looks great. Would be nice with an easy way to get quantised loops. The midi arm function works I guess but seems a little cumbersome for this
On the options panel, you can set a fixed recording time, but it is only in seconds, not note values. I can consider adding that on the next version.
That would be amazing 🤩
Only thing I’d really like to see is better fine tune between start and end of samples. Ability to zoom waveforms too
Hold shift when adjusting start and end for more precision. I'll look into adding a zoom feature, thanks for that suggestion!
@@novelmus oh that’s awesome. Zoom isn’t essential really. The shift function is going to be just fine by ear most of the time. Maybe a toggle for fine adjustment? I’m really digging this device though. The way it works sampling is kind of like a cross between koala sampler and an octatrack.
Great device ! I would like to be able to save track input parameter when loading Catch but it doesn't seems to work for Ableton tracks per example 'Master', however it does save the audio input if it come from the audio interface (exemple : microphone)
Sorry, Catch's Audio Input and Input Channel parameters are stored with the Live Set and not locally on the device itself.
Fantastic job!!!
Can we hope for polyphony in a future update?
TY! Polyphony is a possibility!
@@novelmus can be essential in a lot of live (or not) situations! I hope it comes soon!
@@ginotubbo1531 Yes, it is still planned : ) Currently, you can create polyphony by loading many copies into a drum rack, but it takes quite a bit of setup.
@@novelmus I mean polyphony (chords) with a single sample
@@ginotubbo1531 It will happen!
looks good and the price is right but seems like a crowded market especially since ableton and logic both have really good samplers and serato has a sampler with stem separation but similar concpets , not to mention the sitala (paid or free)
Catch cannot do everything that Simpler has on board, but the opposite is also true. The value proposition here is live sampling in Ableton, a quick and simple interface, and some interesting variation parameters. What that is worth is totally subjective of course, just depends on the workflow that is best suited for your creativity.
When less is more 🙏🖤🍭🐓
Ah, but there will be more next year!
Question: can you put i.e. 16 instances (or more) of Catch in a drum rack and grab sound instantly in each pad i.e. via midi controller? this way you could treat every pad i.e. with different effects or parameters...
would it be cpu expensive?
Catch was designed exactly for this purpose! It ships with a few template racks to get you started.
I would love to have the onboard quick zone assign option and velocity threshold, but if I get it right, the device has been designed as a one sampler player that can be multiplied, sharing the banks, so for that use I should nest it in the multichain instrument rack and patch it, am I right?
Yes, you can stack as many copies of Catch within a Instrument or Drum Rack as you want (or however much your CPU allows).
@novel music Still developing 'Catch'? Polyphony would be very welcome.
Yes, polyphony and Simpler style slicing are coming! Hopefully within the next few months...
This looks really cool! The only thing I’m wondering is whether it’s possible to record time synced samples? This would give it the option to work as a creative looper
With the stock looper I’ve noticed that programming record start/stop in scene automation isn’t quite accurate and will lead to unworkable loops (either not exactly time-synced, or slightly pitch shifted to fit the tempo)
Just tested it. It is nearly perfect. Here is a video demo: drive.google.com/file/d/1Ni7GXRhLIKe9i28AzMVx40Vra7tUst8F/view?usp=sharing
@@novelmus That’s cool! The stock looper is nearly perfect too - but when recording harmonic content (acoustic guitar) the slightest error in length will lead to quite obvious pitch shifting as the sample is stretched to fill the measure. Or - if not stretched - the loop doesn’t loop quite seamlessly
Have you tried this with for example a synth? And what happens if you keep the result looping multiple times over a metronome?
This could be a great solution for me as I’ve been looking for a sampler device that does live recording. But making perfect loops is a necessity with live-looping performances!
@@RJ_Eckie Catch doesn’t do audio warping like Ableton. Pitch and speed are coupled. I think it would work fine for whatever material, but it would be best to resync it every bar by sending it MIDI note 60.
@@novelmus yeah i gathered that it doesn’t do warping, but retriggering the sample every bar doesn’t guarantee a seamless loop, so it still kinda doesn’t answer my question in that regard
I purchased about a month ago and unfortunately have barely gotten any use out of it because it crashes ableton within minutes of opening every time. is there an update coming or any suggestions you can make? im running a gaming PC with 64 gigs of RAM and i7 processor so there's no reason it should be overwhelming my CPU.
So sorry Catch is causing issues on your system. Please email novelmusicdev@gmail.com and we'll try and get things resolved.
wish you made these products for Logic.
Switch to Ableton!
To what degree is this compatible with Push?
Push 2 and 3 are supported, but there are a few limitations that are discussed in the reference manual: novelmusic.org/m4l/catch
@@novelmus I see! Great detailed description in the manual, that’s missing for many other M4L devices. Hopefully Ableton will support more advanced audio routing through M4L on Push soon 🙏🏻
make it vst please!
Maybe some day...I don't have the programming skills right now!
@@novelmus RNBO ?
@@grainmachine - Yes that definitely helps! But, still need to design a GUI and some other bits that RNBO doesn't cover (yet).