The New Mercedes G550 will change your mind About G-Wagens - Two Takes
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We have openly loathed G-Wagens as long as we could remember. In reviewing the previous-generation AMG model, we found that the substance of the vehicle did not match the price tag or the image. Now, this is our first go in the new generation car launched in 2020, and we've been completely sold on this new model. We take it off-roading up a very dififcult trail, and the 2021 Mercedes G550 really impresses.
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At the end of this video we try one last very steep hill, but in normal "street" mode with all the nannies turned back on. The car didn't like that, and threw a code. We spoke with M-B who said it's for safety redundancies, it thinks someone is trying to do something that will end very badly. A restart of the car sorted it out and we continued on our way without issue. Moral: if you're going to do gnarly off-road stuff, put the truck in at least some sort of off-road mode.
hey matt/zack, do you guys have any plans/desire to do something similar if/when the hybrid wrangler comes out, i heard the new platform is nicer on the highway the marketing videos show it in ev mode offroad and i'm kinda curious if that will still go up the hills the g550 did in ev mode
@@boredomarisen We have a wrangler Gladiator Rubicon coming soon. it's not a hybrid.
I was sad you guys didn't go triple locked and try to make it through that rut when Zack was driving. Also I went to go build one of these on the MB site and they will option you an 18 inch wheel for $1000. Standard wheel seems to be 19", so they just gave you what they had with this thing on 20s.
Test it in the mud!:)
This G550 or 2020 Land Cruiser + BMW M2?
Ok so on diff locks: most 4wd vehicles don't have 3 because part time 4wd vehicles : wranglers , most pickups, most 4wds in general, do not have a center diff, when you engage 4wd in those , its the same as locking the center diff in the G or a land cruiser or any "full time 4wd or awd" vehicle. For safety and traction you should lock the center when on a low traction surface but not on solid asphalt because you will bind the drivetrain. So the G or any other vehicle with center lock has no advantage technically speaking when its locked, but it does help when driving on wet, snowy roads, etc when its unlocked.
Most all off road type vehicles have traction control and abs braking the spinning wheel for you making sort of an electronic limited slip. Im guessing that is what active brake assist is. Jeep calls it blsd I think.
Center and rear lock their own axles respectively.
At 26:30 you needed rear lock. You lifted the right rear tire, causing the rear right and front left to spin.
At the end you should have been in low range and center lock at least. But uou were trying to see if it would do it without which is fine.
And yes , the 1,2,3 (center, rear, front) on the locks is what most people would agree as being the right order to go on the locks
If you guys wanted you're welcome to drive my 80 series and see all the diff locks and what they do in action.
I was gonna add this, glad to see someone beat me to it!
thank you!
Thanks for the good info! After we filmed I did more research on diffs and realized (as you said) that most 4WD systems basically lock the center diff. When we went up that little hill at the end we were curious if some kind of auto 4WD would kick on but it did not. It didn't look that steep or difficult but in hindsight, it probably was a bit more than an on-ramp.
@@zackklapman3569 you're welcome! I've been there those dirt hills can be very soft. Definitely nothing wrong with trying with open center. It seems these are more old school in a sense that they have the mechanical locks , but the driver decides what happens, which is fine by me definitely more robust than some brake lsd or clutch type diffs.
Now that's a guy who knows his diffs.
I have no clue how you didn't break while filming that first ad
I'm a true professional.
The only video that I don't skip the sponsored part
@cannabased I want to thank his balls
I only skip it because I already bought most of what Matt tells me to buy.
44 min of meditation 🧘 also Matt is looking in great shape 🙌
True,lost weight. Love this guy. Getting old. Hard to believe he is only 3 years older than me
I understand this length of video will always have less views, but a long form review of a new car with Matt and Zack present is a nice treat!
yes, the diff locks are in order of hardcore needs
center diff locks make it an actual 4wd vehicle (when its open its just AWD)
rear diff lock then front locker when you need it. when your front is locked its hard to turn
"Should I lock another dif? Do i just continue to lock diffs?"
-Matt
Mercedes has an 18" option on their site. They're not... the nicest looking wheels, but they exist.
German configurator also has optional mudflaps, of rock guards for headlights and turn signals
@@hovnojede010101 I'm sure ours has that too, but I didn't look.
I like them!
We have an Offroad package in Canada.
In the US they have this option?
I like these off road trail videos, keep em coming!
Most of those who I know who have the G wagon, they use it to go to Starbucks and also 1 weekend a year tow their boat to the lake.
Dennis Reynolds from iasip moved up from his range rover.
THE G WAGEN IS A FINISHER CAR!!!
Out on the mountain, it's all about the implication.
Golden Gods drive G-wagons.
Great intro
27:30 Puts the car in a situation where diff locks would actually be useful.....doesnt use diff locks :P
that was painful to watch !
Even around the city these are the best vehicle you can get. Ride height is unparalleled for even an SUV. SOLID. POWERFUL. And no one cuts you off when you change lanes 😅
You gotta appreciate how the front gimbal-camera really shows how much the G-Wagon jumps around. I think this video will increase the sales for the G-Wagon.
26:45 No, here is where you use the diff locks.
Edit: 27:15 Yes, lock the diffs, drive straight through it.
Edit 2: 27:25 Oh man....
Yeah I was waiting for the lock all the diffs and have a crack at it but was sad when they went around only to still have to engage it in some form
@@JezzaWezza You don't have to be an expert offroader to understand a differential. If you know how they work on pavement, and I think a motoring journalist should, you know how to use them here as well.
So disappointing they didnt lock the diffs here !
That was painful to watch
Awesome video, I really enjoy when you do these off road videos as no one else does long style with them!
Been waiting for this one since I saw your post on IG a few days ago. Looked so easy and no plastics cracking in the interior. Well done Mercedes. This V8 is definitely the one to have.
Anyone else think Zack looks like Dennis from It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia?
plot twist: it is Dennis from Sunny
Oh poor Zack (Dennis)
Is Zack old enough to know the show? Lol
i think he looks like Ian Lightfoot from Onward
This sounds like the same conversation I would have with my family, cousins. We'd have fun with this. I guess I need to play the lottery. Thank you for the great video.
I appreciate the Captain Ron quote :)
Center diff is basically a transfer case, which all 4wd trucks/SUV’s have. “Hardcore” order is the order they have them in: 4wd locked first, rear diff second, front diff last.
Could burn up the center diff clutches without locking it on difficult terrain like this.
Not correct. The G is the only production vehicle with 3 separate locking diffs. It is important to lock them in order of center, rear, and then front to make sure you don’t damage your drivetrain. The buttons are actually numbered 1 (center) - 2 (rear) - 3 (front) in order of how you lock them. You also must be in low range in order to utilize them. It is also important to remember to unlock them once you get out of your jam because it is only meant for speeds below 10 miles per hour to get out of mud or snow. If you don’t unlock them, you will, again, damage your drivetrain.
This was great, like an active podcast.
i love the long format off roading videos
I do wish after having the G for a week in advance...legit more research into it BEFORE going off road would have been done. Kind of a waste of a full week of advance of use without having done more learning. The things mentioned that should’ve been looked into were the parts wanted to know exclusively.
This long format was cool!
You probably could do with the G350 Diesel as you get all the capability of this with better fuel economy and torque for days with that engine.
Yeah but the majority of Matt's viewership will more than likely ever have the option. That diesel will never make it to North America.
It's a real shame because that is a great engine. They are even talking about the 400 Diesel engine with 325 bhp and 700 nm of torque. But unfortunately as no Mercedes with a diesel is available in North America to buy brand new the 550 V8 is the entry level into that car. Europe with its fuel prices you'd be off your nut to go for the 550 or AMG G63. But one thing we noticed with them here is they seriously hold onto their value better than say a Range Rover Sport SVR and the G63 AMG is also faster. If you look on CarWow you will see it in a drag race. There is also a video on carfection of the old Defender against the old G350 and the Merc destroyed it.
Thank you for the awesome content y’all
Thank you for watching!
"learned that driving the Saratoga" hahaha was not wasted on me. Best. Kurt russell character. Ever.
endlessly quotable. As a sailor, it's what Spinal tap is to a musician.
If it weren't for this film I'd have never seen where you just went, thanks for that guys, what a place! And what a car!.
Do a video of taking a Subaru Crosstrek through this same trail!
FWIW low range for offroad is for more than just getting lots of torque right away. It saves your brakes and your transmission alot of stress. In high range and barely moving up a hill, for example, you are just slipping the torque converter constantly and dumping a ton of heat into the fluid. Also when going downhill, more an issue with high elevation mountain trails, low range greatly increases the ability to engine brake.
Zach - "It'll feel solid when it's rolling over, too..." ...hahaha
Damn I love the Two Takes
minutes from greatness!
The Captain Ron quote got me. 🤣
Such great memories of the G Class and Puch from my military days. I really hate what AMG has done to one of my all time favourite vehicles. Good on you two to get a real G Class for this one!
How different are the military spec ones?
@@guenthersteiner8163 Even the newer ones are still based on the old model. A bit like the Professional version they did a couple of years ago. I personally had used the old Puchs. Way underpowered but never let us down. Also very versatile! Basic and purpose build. The opposite of what they are now, sadly.
Doesn't the amg version still have the same capabilites as the non amg?
39:27 no one expects a G Wagon to stop and help. LMAO.. so glad y’all covered the LA ‘vibe’ of this vehicle.. so.. this vs Defender vs Land Cruiser?
Just a little correction. Magna Steyr was supposed to build Boxsters and Caymans, but that plan was cancelled. Also all the Fisker Karmas were produced in Finland at Valmet Automotive plant in Uusikaupunki. Also Valmet made Boxsters and Caymans between 1997 and 2011(and these days builds some Mercedes models). Magna Steyr does build the MK5 Supra amongst other cars.
I can bet that intro had to be shot a couple of times due to excess amount of laughter !
The prelude about the ballz killed me softly. Must...stop...rewatching... Ok, on to the truck.
Best all round vehicle ever. I will drive mine forever.
You guys made me chuckle as ya got stuck for just a sec. Thanks for the video.
Honestly looks like a walk in the park, so damn impressive
And it would be a hard walk up, for real.
Soooo frustrating to watch😂😂 You guys crack me up with your offroad "prowess". But it was a great review - you hit the nail on the head. This is a fantastic truck that unfortunately won't be used to its full capabilities. 👍👍👊
Two takes.......”Take two”....perfect👌
It even looks great offroad! Impressive performance.
The part about Magna Steyr in Austria: Yes they build (and built) a lot of different things. Currently It's the G, BMW 5 series, BMW Z4 and Toyota Supra, Jaguar I Pace and either the F-Pace or the E-Pace. (i don't remember which one)
But i am unaware that they built cars for Porsche. (whole cars, i would not exclude awd systems) But the first Aston Martin Rapide was built there, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Chrysler Voyagers and E-Class Mercedes they did for a long time. (not currently anymore) They also do awd/4wd devellopment and build for lot's of manufacturers. The G is something special! (Here it is kind of a national treasure) Mercedes back at the end of the 70's started the cooperation with the guys in Graz (the city in Austria where they manufactur the cars) because they were famous for making military offroad vehicles. (like the Haflinger and the Pinzgauer. There are videos of them going offroad on YT). So Mercedes brought in the car stuff it needed while they did the offroad stuff. And to this day they build the G here. And they get constantly tested on the same trail since the 70's on a little mountain near the factory. (They got a special trail for them up the mountain. Anyone else allowed to drive up the mountain uses a different, way, way easier one. The hiking trail there crosses the G test trail a few times, and for anyone not used to offroading it seems impossible that they do drive there. So to me it looks way harder than what you encountered, but then again, the Magna test drivers sometimes have over 30 years of experience in offroading and know their own trail blind) The goal for the current version was that it had to outperform the old one on the street and for sure on their trail. And that after hard use of the vehile over 2000km on said trail, nothing must be loose, broken ect.
*Too bad no one will actually use it for this stuff lol*
Right. If you really wanted an off road machine, you could get three of them for the price of this thing. This is a Beverly Hills show-off machine that you might occasionally take off road (but probably won't).
Because when people do it throws codes like at the end.
@@simonburkeisable I wanna find a 2001 that’s just used up enough to not feel bad about trashing with mods.
Thank goodness people actually do use this stuff
@@danlauer9676 wrong. Many people take them offroad
I like this off-road stuff more than the usual canyon stuff. This makes me want an older G. Looking forward to the Defender 110, if it doesn't break down. You guys need to get the Bronco Wildtrak Sasquatch out there when it finally shows up next year. Itools to be a beast.
Great video! Gear question: what stabilized camera are you using for the forward facing shots? Osmo Pocket? It looks really smooth.
GoPro Hero 8. Their new stabilization is very impressive. However, if you're doing high cornering speeds, I recommend turning it off. If you leave it on, it will digitally pan.
you should def have been able to get up that with the lockers engaged the first time
Jeeps and regular 4x4 trucks don't have a center diff. It's effectively always locked. Having a center diff let's you use the 4x4 in all weather/terrain conditions.
@thesmokingtire I would have loved to see you guys try the three diffs out on the steep stuff off to the right as you were headed up, I understand without too much off-road experience why you shied away though (maybe next time). I am curious if you had an opinion on how this stacked up against the LX570 which also walked this trail like it was sleeping?
This vehicle with a diesel is the best
Until you have to replace the dpf, injectors, turbo and other things.
G550 standard wheels are 19” not 20”.
The G has Always been built in the same factory in Austria, as it is today. Magna acquired it, but it was always a separate factory from other MB factories.
The 6x6 G wagen is also very very impressive
90% of the sales are AMG models because the price difference of the G550 and the AMG is VERY small less than $20,000! Why not spend the extra money and get a lot extra? Mercedes needs to lower the price of the G550 in order for it to sell, imo.
Just so you know you could get that thing up both of the other trails no problem. Only one spot on the back side where you need sliders but it has a bypass
I wonder if the ECU logs how many times the locking diffs have been activated in the past. I bet there are Gs where they have not been engaged once.
Most Gs I’d say.
Where is this? I live in SF Valley so it looks so fucking familiar...
26:20 You shot yourself there. With center locker you have no traction control anymore. So you need the rear locker too and why not the front, you want that axle pulling you too. Front axle with one wheel in the air is pulling zero. With locker it's pulling as much as the wheel on the ground had grip
MAN YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS TRAIL IN THE 2020 LIMITED X WHEN YOU HAD IT.
Need to do a long format video like this with a manual wrangler!
It's good to finally hear Zach's voice. He's usually too soft in other videos.
12:40 Equal torque is with open diff, that's why you have to lock when slippery or wheel in air situation. That wheel will provide 0 force and the other 100% momentarily with no thinking or brake aplication. With any diff locked the G will operate like a "real car now" mechanicly - no ETS traction intervention . I quoted the chief test driver.
Jeeps and other part time systems operate like the G with the center diff locked, both driveshafts turning at the same speed
its like the defender for road manners with a good gut for off the tarmac. boxy is retro Cherokee goodness. For fitting things in the back. Plant the ST Flag G..
lmfao the CEL at the end
I know. I think they didnt put it into 1 low and the G wagon threw a code on the steep hill. I drove 6 hours of hard off roading and my Tacoma had not 1 problem.
nothing can beat tropical country offroad trail. water, rocks, mud, soil etc. much more that rock dunes LOL
I love the G-Wagon. Will add one to the game in the future.
why can't they bring the G350/d to the US...
Emissions?
No one will buy it, thats why
@@estefano9e im sure theres plenty of people that would love a cheaper g wagon just so they can flex the badge
@@van5481 we pay more for diesels here in the US. Usually, it's a $4000-$6000 premium on trucks and SUVs.
@@americansmark it wouldn’t be more. The Mercedes s350 diesel that was offered here a few years ago was 5000 cheaper than the s550
Is this Iridium Silver color or other kind of grey?
Thanks
I’m ..... blown away that this thing can do that. It has the clearance of a skateboard. What the hell.
Currently watching. Did this run the trail considerably faster than the LX570? It looks faster.
My mate has a G wagon prototype chassis.....one of the only remaining ones. Number 5.
The diffs are only meant to be used when in trouble and then turned off. They’re not meant for being on at all times because they will get hot and burn up.
3 locking diffs? Noice :)
Now take it on the big drop on the reservoir side. Lol.
After nearly 40 years in existence, Americans finally get that a G is a very, very good Offroader. Ever wondered why the big european countries uses Gs in their army and not Hummer?
Well you guys over in the USA never got the G Professional or some really base version of the G. You would have to come to Europe to drive the G Professional and see the diffence to the heavy luxury G500
Two takes with Zach are just better. I still watch the one takes but you know.. this was fun
10k away from 1mil!
Matt and balls... Name a more iconic duo
I like this format. However I still like the old one better 🤷🏻♂️
What’s u guys think about the blue leather? It looks cool. but to live with idk
I’d add black accents
I will own a g class in my life. for the MN winters of course
What a fuckin intro 😂😂. Been looking forward to this since the podcast 😁
looks like the road to my home
Looks good
Respect ✊🏻
Do you guys think the newer straight 6 power plant would fair much better in terms of mileage? I realize that the car isn't ultimately made to be efficient, but perhaps a 450 version like the E or CLS would still offer all of the off road capabilities while only sacrificing the acceleration numbers.
looks like mercedes will offer a 6 cylinder with the upcoming facelift, at least in europe the V8 got its final edition.
can't wait to see y'all run the double black diamond trail in a bronco in 2021
There's 2 trails at Rowher we want to try but we should go with someone who knows what they're doing.
Is it me or did they shrink the size of the windows by a ball hair
Must be the most expensive biscuit tin in the world. USD$225,000 here in Au. Screw that for bush bashing.
Lmfao no offense but the promo was hilarious.
I want to see defender on off-road, let's make it happen, I like these videos.
we have a defender 110 coming in December
When one of you guys got out to film, why didn't the driver back up and up the guy that was filming? hehe
The Supra MK5 is also made at Magna in Austria
This G Wagon shouts “I’m built like a Mack truck - keep me forever!”