Groups And Idols Who Spoke Out And Went Against Their Companies PT2

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  • @roses_in_sonder5217
    @roses_in_sonder5217 Před 3 lety +366

    how the frick to the east light ceo only get 8 months of time and then 2 years probation, for hurting and abusing children for over 6 years? That's insane and I am so angry

    • @yogurLAPIZ
      @yogurLAPIZ Před 3 lety +20

      Because two of the members made the accusations but two of them told it didn't happen. I suggest you look into the car because the last time I saw some of the boys accused that the father of the boys was the one who abused them and so on... Anyway that case was pretty messy.

  • @glowinluna5742
    @glowinluna5742 Před 3 lety +206

    These companies are so money hungry they treat their artist like trash but expect the best out of them.

    • @ououkuaipao
      @ououkuaipao Před 3 lety +4

      they are making products and machines ,not human artists nor art.

    • @inaigumensev2925
      @inaigumensev2925 Před 3 lety

      @@ououkuaipao PC PC

  • @elmin82
    @elmin82 Před 3 lety +623

    the Bonus Baby member that have to change her voice remind me what happened to Britney Spears

    • @novieafriyanti5700
      @novieafriyanti5700 Před 3 lety +72

      Mina & momo twice as well

    • @elmin82
      @elmin82 Před 3 lety +62

      @@novieafriyanti5700 BlackPink Rosè too

    • @Nicolesid1
      @Nicolesid1 Před 3 lety +81

      There are so many groups, especially girl groups, that they want the members to have higher voices because, from what I've heard, Korean companies see high voices as youthful and low voices mature. They want to group to look young and sweet for netizens.

    • @elmin82
      @elmin82 Před 3 lety +33

      @@Nicolesid1 yes right like Britney record label want to change her voice for became more pop , Britney original voice is more soul

    • @akosadu4121
      @akosadu4121 Před 3 lety +37

      Even Chungha said she was told to keep her voice going higher. She didn't seem resentful or anything about it.but you never know

  • @Andres-.-
    @Andres-.- Před 3 lety +869

    Regarding the Coco situation, I think that was one of the few times where I agreed more with the agency than the idol. Prior to Coco's solo release, she had also been given a solo song (It's called "Wishy Washy" if you want to check it out) that led to lukewarm reception. Sori had not yet also received a solo before Coco decided to want to release music once again. At this time, Sori had just gained a good amount of media attention for being in the 'winning' female group on Mixnine (the group didn't actually debut). So it made sense that the company was trying to capitalize on selling Sori. What also happened at the same time was that Coco auditioned for the Unit while Sori made it onto Mixnine. But Coco didn't even make it past auditions, and was told her audition wouldn't be aired to essentially spare her from criticism. Financially it makes sense to invest into the member who just gained some decent attention, right? I do believe the company should've been more transparent with their plans to Coco, of course. But overall I really don't like how Coco made Sori look in this situation, because she didn't do anything to deserve all of this negative attention. Even in the end the company didn't actually sue Coco and let her contract go. Though I've seen some sources say that the company lost against Coco, which is interesting. To me the company was trying to do what was best given their resources. As much as it would've been great to give it equally, we all the know that the industry is chasing success not equal opportunity.
    EDIT/ 2022 update: But this happened a long time ago now, and the situation had died down. Sori's music never led to enough attention, which is why she decided to stop making music, but her fanbase remains small and loud! Coco still uploads on CZcams and released a song called Lately in 2021. Part of me hopes they made up somehow after this.

    • @azrae1673
      @azrae1673 Před 3 lety +171

      yeah coco made sori look bad as if sori was the one asking and paying the company to do these things when her promotions aren't even up to her

    • @laetitiac9890
      @laetitiac9890 Před 3 lety +2

      I would like to ask about the song of Sori?

    • @azrae1673
      @azrae1673 Před 3 lety +8

      @@laetitiac9890 touch - sori is her song

    • @laetitiac9890
      @laetitiac9890 Před 3 lety +1

      @@azrae1673 thanks

    • @azrae1673
      @azrae1673 Před 3 lety +1

      @@hannahmew9194 rilaccoco

  • @hwangsiblings6513
    @hwangsiblings6513 Před 3 lety +473

    OMG! That case with The east light literally made my cry. It's so so awful and wrong in many ways just thinking about how the members must have felt and all the trauma they must have is heartbreaking. Child abuse is definitely not okay, violence in any way or on anyone is never okay.

    • @Priny_nb
      @Priny_nb Před 3 lety +2

      I don't know whom to trust in Eastlight situation as other members defended the company.

    • @exoholoic4049
      @exoholoic4049 Před 3 lety +12

      I wish they would have put a warning before that clip.It's disturbing hearing someone beg and being hit. Im so upset right now.

    • @khxrizma
      @khxrizma Před 3 lety +8

      @@exoholoic4049 there's a warning at the beginning of the video

  • @jillchinnt
    @jillchinnt Před 3 lety +156

    Crayon Pop is so iconic. All their songs were bops. It breaks my heart to hear how abusive their company is. These girls/boys just want to do what they love most and companies just use it as something to hold against them😕 I hope that one day "good" companies and groups can stand up for others and bring an end to the toxicity in kpop

    • @shatteredshards8549
      @shatteredshards8549 Před 3 lety +3

      Way has a CZcams channel, she's done quite a few videos talking about what it was like.

  • @battiebumpkin
    @battiebumpkin Před 3 lety +210

    I'm in utter shock about the abuse that the members of The East Light faced, it's like nothing I've ever heard of before in the K-pop industry...just disgusting.

    • @YennaAvyeon
      @YennaAvyeon Před 2 lety +6

      Something that I heard but wasn't mentioned here, is that one of the members was playing soccer outside when he wasn't supposed to, and was dragged inside by his hair and literally was beaten so hard he broke a bone (I think his arm, not sure). It's insane the CEO and producer got such a low sentence.

  • @hayoung6227
    @hayoung6227 Před 2 lety +38

    The Apink story made me actually shed some tears. Yukyeong cheering for Apink and considering them and their reputation in her personal choices is really sweet.

  • @nicolegoh9748
    @nicolegoh9748 Před 3 lety +335

    Jessica's situation was just so messy all around because while we don't know how exactly it was settled and who was telling the truth, it's undeniable that it makes no sense to kick Jessica at all
    Like it's not even a case of "sm kicked Jessica cause she didn't let them have a cut of B&E" because they made more losses from kicking her out (longest trainee = most money spent, 7 years of brand reputation and cultivating the soshi bond destroyed, yet another scandal for sm in 2014, Jessica being a popular member especially in China, scrapping J&K S2 + the album + losing favour with Krystal, rerecording and refilming CMIYC, also ot9 had just re-signed their contracts that year)

    • @jeshellecerbito6697
      @jeshellecerbito6697 Před 3 lety +22

      Jessica had long beef with her members long before they became popular, esp. with Taeyeon. It actually made sense that she was kicked out.

    • @fajarbariyati6826
      @fajarbariyati6826 Před 3 lety +6

      I think because Jessica was date eith Taylor Kwon (some one had bad reputation)

    • @crownofeunoia1907
      @crownofeunoia1907 Před 3 lety +89

      Honestly, I don’t think SM thought that Jessica’s firing would have impacted the group much. I mean, they probably thought it would be another TVXQ situation where members left but the group still retained their popularity.
      And B&E was the sticking point. They wouldn’t make her choose between the group and her clothing line or accused her for using her SNSD fame to promote the clothing brand otherwise. Remember that Jessica came out with a clothing line at a time that it was extremely rare for idols to do and it wasn’t uncommon for established idols to run their own businesses with the permission from their companies. SM was butthurt that they failed to get on the B&E money and punished Jessica for it.
      I stopped being a SONE after that. I’m not going to speculate the relationships within the group but them saying that they were going keep her in the group then suddenly voted her out had put a foul taste in my mouth and I didn’t mess with SM groups for 4.5 years after that.

    • @bunnywar
      @bunnywar Před 3 lety +12

      They still did a colab with her brand after she was out of the group.

    • @jeshellecerbito6697
      @jeshellecerbito6697 Před 3 lety +29

      @officialmer I honestly don't care on whatever their beef is, but I do believe that there's an unfriendly competition going on in the group.

  • @princesskristan
    @princesskristan Před 3 lety +213

    The East Light situation made me sick. What happened to them wasn't ok at all and what I will never understand is why some members of SNSD could do solo stuff and still be a member yet when Jessica wanted to do her own thing, she had to choose between the group or solo stuff

    • @nicolegoh9748
      @nicolegoh9748 Před 3 lety +37

      Lots of reasons actually. Conflict of interest (since snsd also model for clothes brands), missing out on schedules (2014 was a crucial year for sm because of all the scandals + snsd were scheduled for their Tokyo Dome tour later that year), not the same focus.
      Yoona didn't have any acting activities the whole of 2014 and Sooyoung's clothing line Beaming Effect was a charity drive rather than a fashion brand (like what B&E is). Jessica also had similar solo activities prior to 2014 like getting a lead role in a musical.
      Really don't think it was an sm thing for her case cause snsd renewed their contracts that year + there're rumors that Jessica was only supposed to stay on for a year more anyways before going on hiatus to focus on B&E (supposedly they were gonna announce it at their Tokyo Dome tour and it aligns with how there was a whole mv + song of CMIYC recorded with her in it, also how her contract pretty much expired in 2015 and she left fuss free from sm).
      I highly doubt that sm would've kicked her just cause "she wasn't giving them a cut of B&E", they lose more money kicking her out cause they effectively the brand reputation and soshi bond they built for 7 years, also shelving that rumored Jessica&Krystal album + S2 of their reality show, also all the money Jessica brings in as a member of snsd alone

    • @princesskristan
      @princesskristan Před 3 lety +4

      @@nicolegoh9748 Well those things make sense. I also heard some things about some of the members not agreeing with Jessica's choice but who knows if that's true

    • @nicolegoh9748
      @nicolegoh9748 Před 3 lety +23

      @@princesskristan oh yeah there was lots of speculation about that and I wouldn't be surprised if it was true tbh, snsd has always been the main priority for the other 8 + Tokyo Dome was a huge deal to them cause it had always been their dream to perform there. Jessica was going to become and is B&E's CEO and creative director, I also don't really see how she could've managed all that on top of prioritizing snsd so it must've been pretty frustrating for the others if Jessica hadn't been as fully focused as they were
      Whatever the truth is it's undeniable that they parted on bad terms with each other, seeing as how Jessica never went for Tiffany's birthday last year despite neither of them being in sm anymore 😬😬

    • @princesskristan
      @princesskristan Před 3 lety +16

      @@nicolegoh9748 Yeah I noticed that! And when they performed INTNW and everyone started crying. I can't imagine the feeling that they were having. And I know alot of people hope for a ot9 reunion, but I don't think that will happen

    • @nicolegoh9748
      @nicolegoh9748 Před 3 lety +10

      @@princesskristan lel I had just started stanning snsd before Mr Mr + I've known soshi for so long because of how big they are in kpop so I was crushed when the news broke :') I originally just wished the best for everyone + supported them in their individual activities and also wished for a reunion but as time passes and more things get shown (like Tiffany's birthday) and I look back with a more mature mind I'm just forced to admit that maybe Jessica did have a lot of blame to take and that we're never gonna have a reunion

  • @MarieKaulitz
    @MarieKaulitz Před 3 lety +143

    BAP was the group that got me into kpop, I remember the "lawsuit days " very clearly and till this day I'm still salty about it. They could have been so big if it wasn't for TS

    • @Isa12love
      @Isa12love Před 3 lety +8

      YES OMG i get so mad every time i remember this

    • @galaxy_kitten95
      @galaxy_kitten95 Před 2 lety +14

      Same here. I’ve been into Kpop since 2010 and early on, there wasn’t a single boy group I would stan aside from U-KISS (in terms of learning members’ names, bdays, watching interviews/variety shows etc.). I was and still am primarily a girl group stan.
      But, B.A.P was the boy group I needed. They were already on the path of immense popularity. They were up there with EXO at the time. I remember being so upset once the lawsuit broke out. TS mistreated SO badly that Yongguk didn’t want fans to stream their songs because TS would continue to get that profit.

    • @riamalia9966
      @riamalia9966 Před 2 lety +3

      yes!! shinee introduced me to kpop but bap really was the group that caught my attention and made me stay. i miss them and im 100% they would've been so much bigger if it wasn't for TS.

    • @disubn
      @disubn Před rokem

      Sigh.. I'm a huge Baby back then. I'm super salty about it until now. T T

  • @kaemarieautumn
    @kaemarieautumn Před 3 lety +191

    The fact that so many idols have filed lawsuits against their companies for mismanagement, mistreatment, lack of protection from netizens and saesangs, and even outright abuse tells me that it isn't just an issue within the kpop system but South Korea's legal system as well.
    It was a lawsuit by Hangeng, formerly of Super Junior, that made it so a contract could only last for seven years, but that made me question that if they could get protections put in place for slave contracts, then why couldn't they fight to get other protections put in place? Taeyong from NCT is extremely overworked to the point of needing to be carried off of the stage ones performances are over, Momo from Twice and many other female idols have stated that their companies have made them lose so much weight that they were scared of dying, and SM Entertainment artists have the WORST saesang problem that I have ever seen.
    I get that the entertainment system is fucked up on principle, no entertainment system on the planet is innocent, but kpop is the only one that I've seen that makes me genuinely question why these companies continue to receive trainees or why someone would choose to become an idol in the first place? As fucked as the American entertainment system is, at least these people have protections set in place to protect them, especially in the case of stalkers who have been known to get homicidal (ex: Selena, John Lennon).
    Hollywood is a little under a century old, but Kpop is not even 40 years old and has had issues ever since kpop GROUPS became a thing. These companies are having CHILDREN choose their career over the health, mentally abuse them without care and then have the nerve to act like the victim when the idol wants to leave. Need I remind you of TRCNG, The East Light, and Stellar? Sulli (may her soul rest in peace)? All the other idols who have admitted to being sent into dark depression with no support from their company? The idols who have gotten to the point where they have BEGGED netizens and sasaengs to on numerous occasions to leave them alone?
    If the kpop industry doesn't change, I won't be surprised if it starts dying because idols stop putting up with the abuse and companies stop recieving trainees because said idols make sure that they open up about their treatment by these companies. Hell, I won't be surprised if the idols eventually say "Enough is enough" - especially with the frankly disturbing amount of idols who've developed severe eating, social, and mood disorders or idols attempting to/taking their own life - and push back against their companies.
    Either way that it goes, something's got to give in both the company and the government, especially with eyes on the kpop industry growing.

    • @RatsRatsIsthebest
      @RatsRatsIsthebest Před 3 lety +11

      It’s like they want the idols to die

    • @glowfly1000
      @glowfly1000 Před 3 lety +4

      Say it out louder for the people in the back

    • @mockingbelles
      @mockingbelles Před 3 lety +8

      Yeah for sure, a lot of issues within Kpop are indicative of wider systemic societal issues within Korea.

  • @SolitudeDayys
    @SolitudeDayys Před 3 lety +556

    Coco would have had the public’s support had she not spoken about sori that way. She sounded petty and jealous and directed her frustration towards her teammate along side the company when her main issue was with the company. Constantly calling sori “Her” with somewhat of an aggressive tone does not make her look good.

    • @olijyp8873
      @olijyp8873 Před 3 lety +43

      I mean she is human, and I understand her jealousy

    • @ivoflo
      @ivoflo Před 3 lety +34

      @@olijyp8873 yeah but making someone looking bad and making others hate on someone else don't sound nice either

    • @lolasmom5816
      @lolasmom5816 Před 2 lety +3

      I think the company was telling the truth about her

  • @JellyDonutSquirt
    @JellyDonutSquirt Před 2 lety +26

    The story about East Light is so heartbreaking… hearing one of them getting beat in the background of the video was so disturbing and makes me so angry… if they did that while the other members were on a scheduled recording… I can’t imagine what they did when no one could hear…

  • @Nina-bh5jj
    @Nina-bh5jj Před 3 lety +23

    I see Yongguk, I click. B.A.P deserved so so much better

  • @njarasoarumpf8464
    @njarasoarumpf8464 Před 3 lety +12

    what baffle me is how unproductive the practises are sometimes. The more you train the more tired, the worst it get. That's it!

  • @JerBuster77
    @JerBuster77 Před 2 lety +17

    About Crayon Pop, their debut song was not 'Bar Bar Bar'. It was just the one that went viral. They debuted with 'Saturday Night'.

  • @karinamurphy6645
    @karinamurphy6645 Před 3 lety +50

    I feel like Jessica’s termination was stupid for the main reason that this was a time that SNSD was already a large enough senior group, they had new groups that SM was wildly promoting too and they have done plenty of projects and things with members individually and in smaller groups. I feel Jessica could’ve had ample time to still be a member and do her own things. But again it’s the company. They want they’re idols to do things on their own time. Idk bruh I just feel like SNSD was at a point in their careers where things were going to be slowing down with them already and it was almost a waste to kick Jessica out 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @ywc9644
      @ywc9644 Před 2 lety +6

      there maybe some unhealthy logic of Korean culture or idol industry behind of it which we don't understand...

  • @peachxtaehyung
    @peachxtaehyung Před 3 lety +151

    Wtf I didn't know Alexander went through that!! I'm a kiss me and this really saddens me. I wonder if that's why so many have left ukiss? If so that irritating cuz that's probably what has kept them from growing their fan base cuz they're super talented

  • @AustinPS97
    @AustinPS97 Před 3 lety +55

    TheEastLight situation still makes me sad and angry every time I hear about it but, I love this series I hope u can make more videos about this topic.

  • @NoelMcGinnis
    @NoelMcGinnis Před 3 lety +195

    It always amazes me that, despite constant scandals, YG is rarely ever caught up in these types of issues. They are an irritating company at times, and haven’t always treated all of their idols equally, but apparently they don’t go to the extremes, and actually pay their artists quite well. As for the bullying scandal within AOA, it seems that has opened a floodgate, because now idols are being accused of bullying left and right.

    • @Jesslove948
      @Jesslove948 Před 3 lety +35

      Same knowing how many hate bandwagon against YG has been going on, not seeing any of their artist file a lawsuit against them is surprising.

    • @K_classic
      @K_classic Před 3 lety +9

      @@Jesslove948 I think someone from 2Ne1 almost did or did??? I’m not sure though

    • @darthsidious9814
      @darthsidious9814 Před 2 lety +3

      @@K_classic CL should have

    • @hotsexyangel
      @hotsexyangel Před 2 lety +3

      Tbh the only reason YG artists get payed well is bc they do commercials and partnerships. I doubt most of it comes from music itself.

    • @alysa-hime
      @alysa-hime Před 2 lety +1

      @@hotsexyangel actually it's because of the profit cut. Other companies get 60-70% of profit from concerts, albums etc. While the opposite is true for yg. The artists get more percentage especially for concerts they get 70% of the profit

  • @tifanytifany
    @tifanytifany Před 3 lety +63

    I can't even imagine how much bigger Got7 could have been if JYP put more effort into their promotions and projects, especially since they have a lot of foreign members, JYP could have taken more advantage of their status as a pretty big international group. Instead, they chose to pay more attention to their girl groups and overwork them :(((

    • @darthsidious9814
      @darthsidious9814 Před 2 lety

      U should go and see this video called JYP 2.0 . It shows how JYP manages its idols . It’s on CZcams . JYP hasn’t been the CEO since 2012. He isn’t responsible for GOT7 mismanagement

    • @tifanytifany
      @tifanytifany Před 2 lety +1

      @@darthsidious9814 oh I was talking about the entire agency (JYPE) 😅 that’s why I used “they”

  • @GrimzyShake
    @GrimzyShake Před 3 lety +11

    JYP has no idea how to age gracefully and also is so wildly egotistical he cannot stomach seeing male idols succeed.. and GOT7 being so incredibly talented and successful as well as extremely charismatic individuals, JYP did all he could to make them miserable. It’s so childish to see but it’s also extremely obvious. Also, he gives me the creeps. I just have a gut feeling that I wouldn’t want to be alone in a room with him as a young female idol

    • @BusanBoys71013
      @BusanBoys71013 Před 2 lety

      I totally agree with you.These Older past idols can’t get over the fact that they are irrelevant.The fact that he has a talent agency is scary. Stray Kids are really gaining popularity so I hope they survive his ego.I also saw how he treated Lee Junho of 2PM telling him there was no place for him. Junho explained how hard he worked to keep himself in the agency and how his Mom called and asked them not to let him go.It was truly heartbreaking to listen to him tell his story and the other members of 2 PM had no idea. Junho just won the Best Actor award and he so deserves it.
      GOT 7 thankfully have left and are on their way to successful careers on their own. Now they have the opportunity to gain even more fans and with the existences of CZcams their past will always be in the present for us to enjoy. I recently saw TOP acting and thought he was amazing.I hope he gets more opportunities.

  • @OliviaN.Preston
    @OliviaN.Preston Před 3 lety +40

    Most groups unless they are extremely popular almost never break even while they are still active. Some members of groups spend their entire lives paying back trainee and debut debt. Henry Prince Mak, a former member of JJCC a group who was formed by Jackie Chan, has tons of videos on his CZcams channel explaining what idols go through during their careers. I highly suggest you watch them, it is very interesting.

  • @cherryblossom7120
    @cherryblossom7120 Před 3 lety +31

    There needs to be new laws about these situations. I don't understand how Korean entertainment still lets this happen over and over.

  • @_SKMG_
    @_SKMG_ Před 2 lety +5

    I support it when they choose to go against their company for the unfairness and calling them out instead of staying and faking that everything is alright or taking all the attention which are given to them.

  • @rosie_petals649
    @rosie_petals649 Před 3 lety +30

    What Sally said in Chuang2020 made me sad and this is why I hate solo stans and people who only hype up one member.
    Sally said that with other members the crowd would go "Waaaaa. Go ______!" But for her it would be silent, when more popular members are treated with way too much attention compared to other members, it can really affect the other members. I understand what that's like and it sucks , favoritism is awful.
    Another example of this is the pre debut group "Alpha Ray" , a former member called Aiganym gained lots of attention for being Kazakh , she left the group and in her statement she said that she had issues with the company and issues with the members who got a bit jealous.
    See how much issue that creates???

  • @OliviaN.Preston
    @OliviaN.Preston Před 3 lety +129

    Sm is truly a horrible company, they overwork some idols and mismanage others. Just look at what they did to f(x). Some of the members of Nct are having health problems but are still being forced to promote and dance. Also the situation with Lay. He has expressed repeatedly that he wants to return to activities with Exo but sm is keeping him in China. The reason for this is that it is rumored that Lay's activities in China are making up 10% of the company's income. They are so money hungry that they are willing to permanently injure idols and damage their mental health. The way they treat their idols disgusts me. Foreign members also get mistreated a lot despite being one of the more popular members in their groups(i.e Winwin, Lay, Amber, Jessica etc)

    • @RatsRatsIsthebest
      @RatsRatsIsthebest Před 3 lety +10

      Especially the Chinese members especially winwin also yurr from Japan

    • @krystalclear7003
      @krystalclear7003 Před 3 lety +4

      That’s not completely true. When they have serious injuries, company gives them choice to perform or not. Usually idols wants to promote even injured to not disappoint fans or to not get criticism. The same goes about weight and diets. Not every idol is pressured all the time to be on diet and thin af.

    • @krystalclear7003
      @krystalclear7003 Před 3 lety +6

      Also Jessica is still korean, just born in USA and she wasn’t treated worse because of nationality.

    • @Laura-in1xg
      @Laura-in1xg Před 3 lety +16

      The situation with Lay? While I agree with you on almost everything, the thing with Lay is that he can't promote in Korea because of China's government regulations, he's some sort of ambassador of youth or something, that's way beyond what SM can do with that situation specifically

    • @romyjane17
      @romyjane17 Před 2 lety +1

      @@krystalclear7003 since 3 exo members filed lawsuits about sm ignoring their health issues, I bet they didn’t get that choice

  • @PaddyMcMe
    @PaddyMcMe Před 3 lety +15

    ... Basically, if your son or daughter says they want to be an Idol show them some videos on the reality of what it's like... If they still want to, tell them to become an independent Idol, if it's really their greatest desire, they can do it independently. Kickstarted, CZcams, etc.
    However if you want your child to be an idol. Then you're already beyond help... And here's hoping your child is more adamant in choosing their own life's direction than you are at trying to ruin theirs.

  • @joelalcantara8068
    @joelalcantara8068 Před 3 lety +31

    Korean business ethics in music and showbiz industry sucks!! Their Congress should pass a law against these abuse and mistreatment on idols once and for all

  • @muzikmann2583
    @muzikmann2583 Před 3 lety +46

    the Korean government should come up with a thorough system to review and background check anyone trying to start a management agency, including if they have the proper funds and resources to properly manage, promote, support, and take care of a group of individual artist(s) because the things and crap that these artists have to go through is in many cases, in my opinion, inhuman....i understand having a nice, beautiful image, but i think the kpop industry goes way overboard in most of their idol requirements....still not clear as to what happened with my bias, Jessica of SNSD....it is such a shame with what is going on with Momoland....i used to worship the ground AOA walked on, and now they are just a shell of the former great group they used to be....such a shame....Mafia Entertainment, TS Entertainment, DR Music, Pledis, Star Empire Entertainment, CJ E&M, FNC Entertainment, Jellyfish Entertainment, Media Line Entertainment, and Yellow Bees agency, and many others need to either go out of business or be put out of business by the Korean government...

    • @strawberryyuriroselia3480
      @strawberryyuriroselia3480 Před 3 lety +2

      agreeee

    • @muzikmann2583
      @muzikmann2583 Před 3 lety +1

      @@strawberryyuriroselia3480 - ditto!

    • @jo09oi
      @jo09oi Před 2 lety +3

      These companies would likely oppose and say they made money for country and control them is limit their rights and freedom. They didn't broke the law (just loophole) bla bla.

    • @muzikmann2583
      @muzikmann2583 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jo09oi - true, but they should still do something about it all....

    • @powbobs
      @powbobs Před 2 lety

      Rich companies often claim I’m poverty to avoid paying people.
      Creative accounting is a real thing.

  • @anntonettet6833
    @anntonettet6833 Před 3 lety +61

    I feel like SM & maybe (just maybe cos we all still dk what went down with the members) the members of SNSD felt threatened by Jessica because Jessica knew her worth & her rights. Like she isn't just someone who'd agree to everything someone told her to do if she wasn't comfortable with it. & I feel like she always spoke her mind which is why they would've butt heads. That's just my theory though cos when I watch her, I just get that sense of a powerful woman who won't take shit from no one esp if she knows what they're doing is wrong towards her.

    • @anntonettet6833
      @anntonettet6833 Před 3 lety +4

      *some of the members*

    • @Gatekeeper201
      @Gatekeeper201 Před 2 lety +4

      I do believe there was some jealousy at play on some of the other members’ parts. This video is the best explanation I’ve seen to date on the subject: czcams.com/video/8h2iwQEQ_IA/video.html

  • @randomwingman545
    @randomwingman545 Před 3 lety +93

    I get that life can be different in many part of the world. However, surely, SURELY morals and rights must have an impact somewhere for Idols. Managers only caring about Money, statue and power without regards for how the artist are. Damn.
    Still, I wonder what it would take before companies back down and treat their employees like humans. Wonder what it would take...

    • @shine199723
      @shine199723 Před 3 lety +7

      Sadly this happens all over the world, people who have power take advantage of those who have less power then themselves especially if it can make them money. Literally happens EVERYWHERE

  • @angeimyricksimpson6162
    @angeimyricksimpson6162 Před 3 lety +16

    I actually saw them at that lady Gaga art pop concert but wasn’t into K-Pop at the time so I had no idea who they were but thought they were so cute and amazing but then years later when I got into K-Pop i saw them on return of super man I was like hey wait I’ve seen them before lol!?!? I can’t believe they had to go through all that though how awful.

  • @Shreya-bq4mn
    @Shreya-bq4mn Před 3 lety +31

    There should be more idols like these to stop these companies

  • @allie5954
    @allie5954 Před 2 lety +7

    "We were not in the situation to pay her".
    As her employer, you HAVE to pay her. I'm not from Korea nor am I familiar with the laws, but I'm pretty sure that paying your employees is required by law.

    • @sadhourstwentyfourseven9578
      @sadhourstwentyfourseven9578 Před 2 lety +3

      Unfortunately, its the opposite for these kpop companies. Idols from lesser companies can be in debt for _years_.

  • @zelozelo7563
    @zelozelo7563 Před 3 lety +26

    I see yongguk, I click
    As simple as that ❤️

  • @sharkgulz
    @sharkgulz Před 3 lety +12

    after the lawsuit TS constantly send BAP for overseas concerts every year...t$hit didn't even bother to promote them properly domestically.. it's really upsetting reminding thosr days.. 😤😡

  • @Phuwin-Lover
    @Phuwin-Lover Před 2 lety +4

    BAP was so big but the company ruined it

  • @igoigo6597
    @igoigo6597 Před 3 lety +103

    Jessica = Legend

  • @mady3088
    @mady3088 Před 3 lety +15

    The whole east light thing was crazy I was crying because of how sad it was.I hope all the members are doing ok and getting help,that is so so wrong.

  • @shelbysegall7068
    @shelbysegall7068 Před 3 lety +13

    The East Light story still makes me cry. I can’t then begin to imagine what they all went through

  • @nancyy4409
    @nancyy4409 Před 3 lety +14

    To this day i hate JYP for how they treated Got7. Glad Got7 got out of there ...

  • @chudiarys
    @chudiarys Před 2 lety +7

    mina boils my blood so much

  • @peachxtaehyung
    @peachxtaehyung Před 3 lety +15

    Wow I didn't know bonus baby went through that! I hope they're all OK!

    • @chezm356
      @chezm356 Před 3 lety +1

      You'll find Its pretty much the same story for quite a lot of girl group out there

  • @fAshSon
    @fAshSon Před 3 lety +9

    Dating is only a ‘scandal’ In kpop

  • @lalalalaaAa123
    @lalalalaaAa123 Před 2 lety +2

    The companies lie so easily about why the idol "left" the company, that it makes me worry about all the instances of "they left to pursue their education!" that I actually believed...

  • @Tattoosandapples
    @Tattoosandapples Před 3 lety +9

    Nada my body is one of the catchiest songs ever

  • @angelafaye3829
    @angelafaye3829 Před 3 lety +19

    I appreciate your videos and I've really been enjoying this series so far! I remember when TheEastLight's mistreatment was brought to light, it was a very sad and upsettingly frustrating experience to have to witness. Those boys were super talented and did not deserve any of the physical, emotional, and mental scarrings that they dealt with from their company. So, thank you for shedding light on situations like these that not many people would know much detail about or would usually turn away from. I've seen many videos and articles about some of these topics, but it's pretty tricky filtering through all of the information and knowing how much of it is accurate, your videos have really condensed these situations so the information is easy to understand and consume without leaving out any important evidence or skewing much of the stories. Some of these incidents I haven't even heard about so it was very eye-opening to learn more about them...if you plan on making a part 3, could you please cover the mistreatment of TRCNG.

  • @missmyminecraftacc
    @missmyminecraftacc Před 3 lety +3

    the east light case made me cry. those poor kids. as someone who has seen abuse, those kids must be traumatized

  • @itsjoybitvh838
    @itsjoybitvh838 Před 3 lety +11

    Your voice is soo unique , also your videos are the best and so entertaining! Keep up this great work!❤❤

  • @byulharangforlife
    @byulharangforlife Před 3 lety +14

    Why are you so UNDERRATED!! 😭

  • @lucykim513
    @lucykim513 Před 2 lety +2

    the fact that jyp told GOT7 they weren't successful when GOT7 is the only reason jype is this well-off now is mind-boggling. the got7 members are all rich enough to buy the entire jype company if they wanted to. Jyp was always jealous of their success and i'll forever be mad at the fact that they were this mistreated in their own company. They deserve all the praise and all the love in the world.

  • @Tattoosandapples
    @Tattoosandapples Před 3 lety +12

    I’ve heard of Sori but never heard of cocosori

  • @Priny_nb
    @Priny_nb Před 3 lety +5

    Super junior hendry was also mistreated by his company

  • @erene0
    @erene0 Před 3 lety +9

    Coco was just jealous

  • @sirdope2575
    @sirdope2575 Před 3 lety +5

    LEE HONG KI (FT ISLAND) ITS THE BEST WHEN IT COMES TALKING ABOUT THE COMPANIES

  • @amyanai8651
    @amyanai8651 Před 3 lety +6

    Thank you for your videos 🥰❤️

  • @mchaneI
    @mchaneI Před 3 lety +15

    40 minutes woow, thanks for your the work ✋🤩

  • @blarmy827
    @blarmy827 Před 3 lety +9

    I’m only on the 2nd person and I’m actually nauseous watching this. Like this literally makes me so anxious that it’s making me sick. It’s heartbreaking to hear what they have all been through... and I worry about my faves in kpop going through the same things.. they’re all overworked and there’s little care when it comes to their mental health and well being physically. I’m from the US so I forget that things are very different from culture in Korea and there’s a lot that goes on that seems like such an old way of thinking that it just makes me sad and angry for them all. The entertainment industry is brutal pretty much anywhere though so it’s not really about things being hard... but these hours of training and stuff are very much extreme. At least here ppl get paid and so at least they have comfort knowing that they’re hard work is being compensated at least. Money isn’t everything but for them not even making money and OWING money a year and a half after their debut?!?!?!! Like wtf this just really is bullshit

  • @ijhopeimdank
    @ijhopeimdank Před 3 lety +1

    i love your channel you put so much effort and research into them 🥰🥰 ive watched half your videos already i love them!

  • @andredrw289
    @andredrw289 Před 3 lety +2

    A video on my birthday!!! Love it!!

  • @vamikos
    @vamikos Před 2 lety +2

    It would've been worth mentioning that Jessica's reputation was greatly damaged in Korea and the fact that she's banned from music shows.

  • @kiavakaiba
    @kiavakaiba Před 2 lety +2

    I really enjoy your content, it’s good to raise awareness around important topics and industry history! I’d love to see you make a video on TVXQ - many Kpop fans, including yourself, use the term “slave contracts”, but probably don’t know who coined it or why... I don’t think anyone remembers and it sucks for their hardship not to be acknowledged when they (and Hankaeng) basically paved the way for any idol who has ever left their company since... but they are still suffering the consequences.

  • @aprils1888
    @aprils1888 Před 3 lety +28

    BONUSbaby were iconic and amazing, but Maroo had to ruin them like all of their past girl groups and now they are debuting a new group... I canNOT suport sadly!

    • @Andres-.-
      @Andres-.- Před 3 lety +5

      Hayoon and Monhee's crazy talents being wasted is so frustrating

  • @mikamii9880
    @mikamii9880 Před 3 lety +4

    I was roaming around about a year ago when I discovered some songs of the east light. Love Flutters became one of my favorite songs ever and I watched their live performance of it too. But I only now discovered what happened to them and I am in shock. That manager really knew how to frighten them saying no one will take kids with issues. I am just so glad that at the end the east light did open up about what happened to them. I am just so shocked right now.

  • @newjeansfan238
    @newjeansfan238 Před 3 lety +12

    I know for Jessica from SNSD, i think there is jealousy against Jessica for her business, she asks permission for SM but i think SM agree and then later disagree, i was so disappointed, i was an ex-fan of SNSD and it was with Jessica that i see the members aren't friends bu colleagues! I know for Mina, so sad she was bullied by Jimin for so long, for 10 years etc

    • @RetnoKusumawardani610
      @RetnoKusumawardani610 Před 3 lety +5

      Idk but imo jessica was ostracized by the members but she reminds silent. Shes just too kind :( im so sorry jessica. I wish i could protect her... I remember the day she cried on her last perform at LA. Its sad...

  • @romifox_k
    @romifox_k Před 3 lety +10

    I did saw Way(Crayon Pop) and Yujin's(Bonus Baby) Interview before, I never expected they experience that way
    And the fact that the EastLight situation was Traumatic, makes me wanna punch the Ceo

  • @miaemblem8072
    @miaemblem8072 Před 2 lety

    The effort, the time spent to make this video, and the accuracy...god

  • @miphasgrace8980
    @miphasgrace8980 Před 3 lety +12

    I swear the BAP situation still pisses me off. If it wasn’t for their shitty management, BAP would’ve been as big as BTS

  • @527398
    @527398 Před 3 lety +2

    I really don't understand this fucked up system of not paying people for their work. HOW is it normal and legal to withhold incomes for whatever amount of time they're doing it for?

  • @Dearest_Kenyetta
    @Dearest_Kenyetta Před 3 lety +1

    Rejection is just direction. Being kicked out of these groups clearly isn't the worst thing that could happen. Wishing them all the best. OAN- JB is SO attractive!

  • @kazuhasgloves
    @kazuhasgloves Před 3 lety +9

    yes, oh my goodness. yes, please!!

  • @chimounebab9638
    @chimounebab9638 Před 3 lety

    your videos are so good

  • @brown_skin_lover_queen5790

    I really love ur videos

  • @renaee_qt
    @renaee_qt Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you ❤️

  • @Smileyjoshuasvt
    @Smileyjoshuasvt Před 3 lety +21

    I love your videos

  • @shatteredshards8549
    @shatteredshards8549 Před 3 lety +11

    I saw that one dislike and wanted to know if they worked for TS Entertainment.

  • @channelxcaramelo
    @channelxcaramelo Před 3 lety +1

    Yesss, come on contentttt💗💗

  • @mooncxi
    @mooncxi Před 2 lety +18

    That bullying scandal with aoa did not age well….

  • @rezadyn87
    @rezadyn87 Před 3 lety +8

    if u want to be an idol, don't go to a small company, if you can't make it to top 3 or decent companies, just stop, you will definitely develop a huge debt, i don't get how they still don't understant that

  • @lysannepaquette8343
    @lysannepaquette8343 Před 3 lety +3

    I didn’t actually know why Jessica left. Pretty good video!

    • @monicanan8282
      @monicanan8282 Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah I didn’t know that her member turn on her kind of force her out

  • @Jaeho4ever
    @Jaeho4ever Před 3 lety +1

    Can you please do a video about TVXQ? About their controversies from debut to now? And their about SM from beginning to now please 🙏

  • @BusanBoys71013
    @BusanBoys71013 Před 2 lety

    I was so shocked to see how they were treated.How can these agencies not be charged for their criminal acts.These guys are usually minors and they seen to have no protection.I’m glad Woosung has formed his own company he is such an amazing singer .

  • @zerro6961
    @zerro6961 Před 3 lety +15

    I'll recommend another idol/Artist who spoke out against his company:-
    It's Victor Han. He has a CZcams channel named Victor- The drum destroyer. I request you to please make a video on him. He is in a legal battle with his company.

  • @Jimin-ci4ed
    @Jimin-ci4ed Před 2 lety

    i just want to say props to JB , he is a smart , hardworking and caring leader . the way he lead his team and was able to protect the bond between them . it's amazing . being a leader is not easy and being a leader of a group your own CEO tries to put down must have been really hard.
    he and the Got7 members shine with their personality and bond it's beautiful

  • @michime7860
    @michime7860 Před 2 lety +1

    These companies really need to start caring about the idols ffs

  • @ErinAnodea
    @ErinAnodea Před 3 lety +14

    no one deserves any of this

  • @sasori7833
    @sasori7833 Před 3 lety +5

    The more we are awared, the more we can change the game, without our money those pieces of s.. are dead, so if you are awared that a company mistreats your idols, say it, we'll fight for them !
    GOT7 had the balls, they have told us about slavery and disrespect about JYP, they are free and sure, they'll succeed very well, believe me, now JYP he's quite afraid of STAY, we have wrote him :" If you mistreat Stray kids, we'll show you what is hell" !

  • @yanna6564
    @yanna6564 Před 2 lety +4

    i have trust issues with the mina and jimin situatio now

  • @sacedive
    @sacedive Před 3 lety +4

    Things have to change in this industry.

  • @wattswo
    @wattswo Před rokem

    Media Line Entertainment's CEO:
    I accept all criticism and humbly apologize. I didn't know of the abuse.
    Also MLE's CEO: I will sue for defamation.
    🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @kimhiro4974
    @kimhiro4974 Před 2 lety +3

    JYP didnt deserve GOT7.

  • @callistocallipso7043
    @callistocallipso7043 Před 3 lety +7

    Okay but I really want to know the song at around 13:50 because I cannot find it in the inbox.

  • @jeffhardy4980
    @jeffhardy4980 Před 3 lety +1

    Your voice is unique

  • @chicken5068
    @chicken5068 Před 3 lety

    i feel that a situation that isn’t very well known about is about knk, ex-member youjin, and their ex-company YNB. like the general gist of it is that ynb is was a small company without a lot of money. In 2018, all the members had their contract terminated due to “internal issues”. and following that, is that the company announced that youjin left due to a panic disorder. Youjin (i forgot if it was through insta or his stream or if he has deleted it) recently clarified that that was made up and that he was dealing with depression, anxiety, and insomnia and that company did not help with that at all. Also, like the other groups in the video, he said that they were paid almost nothing and that their parents had to help them.

  • @wattswo
    @wattswo Před rokem +4

    Mina from AOA's segment has not aged well, especially since her texts leaked out on how she treated her members and staff (a rare reversal that decimated the credibility of her allegations).

  • @vioinigracia7
    @vioinigracia7 Před 3 lety +3

    I see bang yongguk I click

  • @YennaAvyeon
    @YennaAvyeon Před 2 lety

    Please include Wonder Boyz and N-Sonic in a possible part 3!

  • @nekograce7914
    @nekograce7914 Před 3 lety +6

    BAP ❤️