The Need to Censor Our Dreams
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- čas přidán 12. 11. 2014
- Speaker: Professor Slavoj Zizek
Chair: Dr Purna Sen
Recorded on 11 November 2014 in Sheikh Zayed Theatre, New Academic Building.
Critique of ideology should not begin with the critique of reality, but with the critique of our dreams. As Herbert Marcuse put it back in the 1960s, freedom (from ideological constraints, from the predominant mode of dreaming) is the condition of liberation. If we only change reality in order to realize our dreams, and do not change these dreams themselves, we sooner or later regress to old reality. The first act of liberation is therefore for us to become ruthless censors of our dreams.
Slavoj Zizek is a Hegelian philosopher, Lacanian psychoanalyst, and political activist. He is international director of the Birkbeck Institute for the Humanities and the author of numerous books on dialectical materialism, critique of ideology and art, including Less Than Nothing, Living in the End Times, First as Tragedy, Then as Farce and The Year of Dreaming Dangerously. This event marks the publication of his new book, Trouble in Paradise: From the End of History to the End of Capitalism.
Purna Sen (@Purna_Sen) is Deputy Director of the Institute of Public Affairs at the LSE.
The Institute of Public Affairs (@LSEPubAffairs) is one of the world's leading centres of public policy. We aim to debate and address some of the major issues of our time, whether international or national, through our established teaching programmes, our research and our highly innovative public-engagement initiatives.
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Anyone else been on a Žižek binge lately?
Yep, happening right now :D
Haha yep
Yeah
When I listen to him I feel like I have never had an insightful thought in my life.
Thats an insightful thought
🤣
He is too abstract to comprehend
@@gabrielkarlsson3946 he gets to his point you just have to wait and listen for it. Most of what he’s talking about is antidotes to help build to his point.
@@ddavila3 yes thank you. There is always that moment when I think, ooh now i see what he means.
"Can you imagine living in a shitty society where you have to all the time be engaged in some stupid local problems and participate and so on. I want to live in a society where an invisible network makes things function. I want to have peace to watch my shitty movies, to read books and so on. This is the true challenge. Everyday revolution."
That is not particularly cleaver. What is stopping anyone from doing what they want?
@@oolformacha practically life itself
@@oolformacha He wants to cut the implicit social obligations between himself and his local community. . .like with a cleaver.
@@oolformacha Student debt, medical debt, mortgage debt, car notes, consumer debt . . . Annual fees, or more frequently, for the most essential items, without which you cannot work, or function at all.
1:04:51 "the catastrophe is already here"
I feel such pity for anyone tasked with keeping Zizek within a time limit
It seems to me that he has a distaste for polite social rituals, much like Lacan, so I think he prefers the moderator to simply tell him to shut up (in other words, he likes to force them to do their job). He seems very insistent on this, actually.
Intentionality or not, he’s demonstrated to me that most contemporary moderators and interviewers are, for some reason, very bad at this.
@@dethkon even someone with level 100 interruption can't stop zizek
@@croozerdog level 100 interruption? We’d have to get Bill O’Reilly out of retirement, lol.
She did a great job tbh
@@dethkon , so, basically, he is autistic, right?
1:25:47 ultra rare "they" x9 combo
lolol
jajajaja
God, I read "Ulfrah rawr"...
There's a good one on red scare
Communists on Twitter after someone gets misgendered
Pretty solid Zizek here, high quality content, fast shipping, would purchase again A+++++
The true horror of capitalism is commodifying Zizek
Such words....such delivery
....you and him...
And how was the stealth?
It was pretty good,but I'm not sure what chicken thought about it🐓💨
I read "fast sniffing".
Zizek 8 years ago- we are entering an era where you won't fall in love and dedicate ourselves to another. We will all be like Judith Butler says and constantly reinvent ourselves and only have one night stands......Damn. He saw coming what people don't even realized has happened.
A mixture of comedy and intellectual discussion. gold
I learn english by Zizeks‘ leactures. The accent is so understandable for me and the other russians. Wow!
And for portuguese people also 😂
@@souobernardo Really?
аххаха, интересно замечено!
its easier to learn a language with the wrong accent? and lol that you are learning english with ziz. I was watching sesame street
Please also copy his delivery haha
I'm in love with Zizek is that weird
It's weird times when a woman loving a man is weird ...
To avoid further comments, I have nothing against other forms of love - but I'll never miss a joke in order to be politically correct.
On a platonic level no. He is quirky, clever and well-intentioned
It's not unusual at all
yes
he is especially cute in the beginning getting his papers all in order
I can’t believe we were spared the different toilet analogy! What a time to be alive! What a wonderful day and age we live in!
German toilets statement still makes me blow a large amount of air through my nostrils
The man, the myth, the legend.
Just another thought a moment ago, incredibly brilliant, nor a genius.
As Francisco Clemente.
Zizek talked at 1:24:00 about ww3 and he was spot on with the analysis and the situation we are in today. A true intellectual of our times.
@@user-ik7bc3ru6g The fact that russia have the nuclear bomb probably saved us from this.
what a privilege to be able to listen to this Slovenian miser of a man who probably buys a new shirt just about as often as there's a leftist popular uprising in the world. Love you Zizek, fucking brilliant and hilarious man with invaluable and piercing insights on so many important current topics
0:11 the little antics and cartoonish expressions :D
haha I had to watch it a few times, legend
"what kind of microphone is this? should i put it in my mouth or what?"
Precious
Zizek never disappoints, old jokes, NEW links!
Dr Purna Sen is the best note taker I've ever seen.
😂😂😂
"Without guilt there wouldn't be this movement"
"Well, what have you achieved?" would've sufficed, but Zizek's answer was much more insightful of course
its like a treat to listen to him
If Zizek was a stock I would buy it
Zizek is Great because he destroys what you’re supposed to say.
AWESOME!!!
"Capitalism today functions better without democracy."Slavoj Zizek. Welcome to Cyberpunk. I loved the "belief without believers also". I think it functions as long as it sells and develops a group identity that gives access to moral superiority without sacrifice (or with a very limited amount of it).
i thought he was going to talk about literally dreams, but this is better
his points after 45:50 are pretty mind-blowing
Thanks for pointing it out, I jumped there first and was glad to do so.
Tact and truth. Politeness and forthrightness. I’ve rarely been called tactful. We need to grab the bull by the horns, Slavoj.
Thanks and love for the interviewer ❤
8yrs ago he predicted a war which has already taken place for the reasons he guessed correctly, this is insane
The writing was on the wall to be fair, but unlike most he could see it coming. He was not blinded by ideology.
@@RetalakI-DE-O-LO-GI
*Sniff*
This is so insightful and so humourous 😂
Thank you so much for sharing
@18.20 "Fidelity to pre-modern, so-called 'Asian' values is paradoxically the very feature that allows countries like China Singapore and India, to follow the path of capitalism even more radically than liberal Western countries." That moment when realise that under the clowning is the smartest guy on earth.
1:06 obscenity spotted
Pervert!
Com amor de Campinas, São Paulo, Brasil.
We just love Slavoj. We know he hates it. That just makes us love him more.
Kinda notable that you don’t have captions: I’d be happy to transcribe?
Nice he referenced that "40/45 min" sketch
The title of this video would be a pretty cool title for an album/song
love it . reminds me of korn and mey youth in sloevnia
Hear ye, hear ye!
48:00 is my favourite part of the talk
1:29:44 "Now he´s narcissistically amused" :D :D
Thank Lord Buddha almighty, Zizek was able by his informative and well aimed lecture to curb the audiences desparate need for trying to degrade the talk, by their infantile laughter, at any appearing sexual allusion into a comedy session.
In the end there wasn't much left to laugh about.
I first thought he was speaking at some puritanian USA university. But no, Sheik el BlaBla house is seated in London UK.
Zizek ✊
I love Zizek. I think that, if I learned something here, I could say that this isn't philosophy, as we consume in Western civilization, because I don't have to pretend that I'm having fun and amusement watching it. By the way, I guess the core of enlightenment is over. That's why Hegel, the last resistance to enlightenment, must be back.
15:40 dissing about Gandhi for those of you who are here for it
Oh man, big data has transformed for the worse since Slavoj's optimism here. People don't have to analyze it. They can just train neural networks on it & automatically pick out dissidents before even the dissidents realize where they're headed, or before they do anything to reveal their thoughts.
Yeah, he didn't see that coming. The AI truly changed the game beyond our wildest imaginations
Žižek ⭐
Nice stand up, first time I see this comedian
Lol I lost it at Clinton sex. Zizek is a stand up philosopher
1:23:28 pretty good prediction of current situation in Europe
Starts at 4:00
the man
18:21 Brilliant
Just over 2 minutes . . . And then it gets better . . .
Dalits are a sixth of India's population - over 200 million
Prof. Sudheer, is that you?
Zizek might be wrong about the last answer. Mass surveillence is highly automated. 1:32:00
Slavoj is not a psychoanalyst, he is a historian of the philosophy of psychoanalysis. He has commented in another talk that he has never followed through as an analysand in an analysis, and he does not conduct psychoanalysis. He is a philosopher and a historian.
He's a theorist of psychoanalysis and makes a lot of cultural comments so i guess you could call him a sociopsychoanalyst
Not a philosopher either. He hasn’t produced any knowledge so far. Repeats a lot of stuff all over again.
He is a “culture critic” if you will. Nothing more, nothing less.
@@robt5108 his early work I think is the basis of that claim to Philosopher, and then he is kind of building on that through culture criticism in the next few decades
@@robt5108 Philosophy does not produce knowledge. It reformulates existing knowledge.
The Election story was really funny.
what is this for a book presentation without naming the book? what is the name of the new Zizek book?
"Trouble in Paradise: From the End of History to the End of Capitalism" (Trouble in Paradise of course being a film by his recent fascination, Ernst Lubitsch; I always find his title sources interesting).
and so on...
Zizek doesn't know that Prof. Sen is from same Brahminical communities who maintain objective as well as subjective caste inequalities
1:20:13 Could anybody tell me who is this person that zizek is referring to?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frantz_Fanon
Hope it helps
I would love to see Slavoj Zizek debate Jordan Petersen.
@Mara Bumbuc Yes, I found it immediately after I posted this. Hehehe Love both of them.
Your administration for Peterson is disgusting
@@lefthook8877 If you are talking about Canada I agree with you. The treatment of Petersen is disgusting and obscene and a menace to civilized evolution.
@@lefthook8877 shh
Why? This rivalry exist only in your mind, they're both interesting and miserable people. But honestly I find zizeks criticism of capitalism way more engaging than the reactionary stance of Peterson, and boy do I love money
I like zizek and he has some nuggets of information but he is all over the place. He raises all these seemingly random points but does not take them anywhere. He's like those comedians who raise a seemingly odd point and then say "what's that all about? "
I like his view on religious beliefs though. 45.00
I’ve found it’s helpful to (as I’m guessing you’ve likely done) listen to a number of his speeches/debates. His brain is too frantic to hold onto a single thing for a prolonged period of time, and I think it’s worsened by a time limit, which he sometimes imposes himself as he’s aware of his tangential way of speaking. There’s a continuity in his speeches/writing. I agree with you, it can be quite difficult to grab onto fully fleshed out ideas from Slavoj, as if he speaks in assorted summary. The more I learn his point of view there are little moments that conjure either important sentiments I’ve heard before that I’ve forgotten or wholly new ones, and it changes me. He is a man who requires a lot of patience. Your comparison of him to a comedian rhetoric wise is perfect.
@@graysonjd5624
i am trying to watch as much of him as i can but he does need some structure. I notice i mentioned in my previous comment that i liked his view on religion and for the life of me i cant remember what it was.
he is a hegelian
@@ludwigschilling9761
Is hegelianism a religion?
@@redmed10 What I wanted to say with my comment is that he is a thinker in the tradition of Hegel, the german Philosopher. One of the things that defines Hegel is that he proposed a new way of thinking. This thinking process is divided into three parts, thesis-antithesis-synthesis. The thesis would propose something, the antithesis would deny it completely, and the sinthesis would erase the diccotomy between those two. Hegel is famous for not beeing understood or being too complicated to understand, raising points but not explaining them etc.. in that sense Zizek is the same.
Everything is possible but nothing is being done
huh
his analysis on putin is so accurate with whats going on now
Double displacement, Yes!
put this man in charge already
“Communists Leaders are the Best Capitalist Managers”
yeah yeah yeah, great: 4:10
Relationship without real relationships,coffee without coffeein...
I figure aut if i imagine to be an artist on the stage and make completely fun of myself for half of hour im sleeping better
7:55 temptations of the west, not "twilights of the west". Even influenced wrong search suggestions.
nice!! haha
Dr. Purna is thickology at its puretht.
40:57 - Žižek about belief without any believers.
I guess she noted down his dead mother joke at 35:20
Why is not possible subtitles, legends?
He is difficult to transcribe
4:06 Slavoj starts
Spanish subtitles, please...
nah
Hay que aprender inglés al tratar temas de Zizek.
This is his funniest all right.
Even what to experience as pleasurable is taught to us by society !
*very correct !*
This maybe even goes down to the preference of sweet over sour .
And please don't think of horses and apes liking sweet.
Or the mother's milk being sweet.
Sweet in the first place is just an indicator of high energy food allowing fast muscular activities.
And I'm saying this in a most liberal leninists way.
Zizek convincing as always 🏆
2014!! Way ahead.
Why do people keep giving Zizek water at these events? He just ends up spraying it all on the microphone.
I really find his views thought provoking that being said, wouldn’t it be funny if the host had a face shield on 😅
'they need to censur our dream'. Dont worry mister zizek, with the microchip and morgellon technology, they are already up to installing exactly that technologically!
i've searched this guy precisely zero times. Can't remember his name. Listen youtube, I've tried, but every time I think he's getting somewhere he turns a totally different direction and i can NEVER follow his train of thought completely. I assume he's coherent when he writes or else he wouldn't keep showing up in my recommended videos as someone who is apparently a highly respected thinker?? I have NEVER searched him and youtube is like no no no you MUST listen to Slubjov! Or whatever his name is. I honestly can't remember.
14:50 I have enough spit on me. I better move over before he blows his nose in my jacket....
We need cooperation. Fascism is making life all about money. Its too cold. People need quality environments not warehouses for the poor.
dr sen tried her best to "mother" him to focus on the topic but zizek the kid prevailed....
THAT’S ideology
dey dey dey DEY dey dye dey
Every woman likes the man she' s interested to change alot and even to go back to old state and the again to change for better.
what
@@lukasrehfeld8777 They have the thing for a change.
Prefering opposite psychology and variotios.
And thank you Martin Luther.
15:28 what is Zizek talking about here? natulists? I cannot understand.
He’s talking about the bottom positions of the Caste system in Hindu India. I can’t quite make out the name either.
Dalits
He meant to say "Naxalites" and the people in the comment are blithering idiots to not tell you that clearly and instead point you towards Dalits.
You can look up what Naxalites are about. You will get a lot of conflicting information but if you keep following these stories and developments long enough without bias you will realize that they are not for some sort of political struggle but a violent militant struggle with the hope of overthrowing the democratic government and put in place a communist regime.
That would be less reprehensible if most of Indians wanted that but Indians don't want dictatorship and communism, outside of college professors and social science students. We abhor these based on our part experience with these ideologies. These naxalites brutally murder innocent tribals and village dwellers, let alone government security personnel, if they are suspected of being pro government and pro democracy. Anyone who has sympathies for them after 75+ years if this country's modern history, is either plain evil or too stupid to see their own ignorance.
Naxalites. They're Maoist communist insurgents in India. They carry our regular attacks and are pretty scary.
Post-Truth Era. Capitalism and schizophrenia.
22 minutes and not a word on dreams
1:08:56 Not that I want to hate on people, but I'm in disbelief as to how people with such speech problems might not have them fixed before going out to speak publicly. As far as I know, therapy for stuttering is neither hard nor unaffordable.
what does it matter, he communicated his question perfectly fine.
Thank you Zizek for proving that God exists again and personal freedom is unstoppable. And that academics always fail.
@Felicia Mihanovich Isnt it clear? 🤣
@Felicia Mihanovich amerikanci su takvi . . . glupi
OKi, not talking about the jokes or anything cause he seems to use them repetitively - what I think his point with the "accepting the cliche jokes" (such as the Montenegran one) is:
People would RATHER accept anti-racist struggle as part of their own personal lives than as a part of some bullshit agenda of society = which is 100% correct TBH, the media despite making (and even forcing) the "ground to debate" is actually rejecting the little bit of will inside ourselves to accept and identify and live with differences
Or shorter - to put it simply in a "conservative European "civilized" way" : street problems should be solved on the streets, institutional job is to keep state institutions clean and effective, and put the "street problems agenda" as a little bonus of "miracle happen" without anyone debating it
Problem ofc. is - whenever a new "crew" of government is put on the new position the media either overcriticizes them or overpraises, either way it's not effective for the future lifestyle of the country.
Certainly it's not good to not have defense of "absolute governmental power", BUT - with overcriticizing or overpraising the following happens: morale of people falls down rapidly - they're all like: "well everything is written already, we just elect who executes the script"
Same with every social phenomenon there is like - racism, rapism, feminism, e.t.c., people are simply put "FED of it".. And that part is at least the healthy one, gives some hope for doing the "lazy moderate living" while being correct and not offending
The eye rolls from the person beside him hahaha
You won't get democratic socialism if you do not understand the purpose of taxation Žižek. Taxes are not for funding social programs dude. It's the other way around. No one can get money to pay their tax liability until the government net spends (more than they tax back) on social programs (or other things), at least not without going into debt to a bankster. In all nations for 6000 years it has been this way, the State is the monopoly currency issuer, and must spend before it can justly tax anyone. People used to understand this, but our generations under neoliberalism have (almost by nefarious design) forgotten. The purpose of the tax liability is to create a demand for the money, so the State can hire willing workers. Other than inflation control, and pigovian purposes, there are no other uses of taxation[*]. A currency issuing government does not tax us because it needs their own money back off us, it taxes us because it needs us to want their money.
It is the tax _liability_ that drives the demand, not the tax payment that funds anything. A tax payment is just to enforce the tax liability so folks keep needing to earn money, hence will keep looking to sell their goods or labour to the State. To repeat: the State does not do this to get money (that it can endlessly create) from us, it does so to claim our _real resources_ for public sector purposes. It shreds the tax money if you pay in paper notes!
The reason the State can spend more than it taxes back (running a continual deficit, forever, if need be for a growing population lets say) is because fiat money is just an accounting record, if it goes negative on a government ledger sheet nothing falls from the sky and no one's children will be held to ransom[**]. No gold supply is at risk, because we no longer operate a gold standard. Nothing is at risk. Not even real resources in principle; if claims on real resources get too high, prices rise due to consequent scarcity reducing purchasing power due to inflation, cooling off the claims on resources. (Moderate stable inflation is even healthy, it is a de facto tax on hoarded wealth and reduces the burden of past debt.)
Once you understand this you will see that TINA and "capitalist realism" doom mongering is not going to last long, and democratic socialism is quite possible, although every year neoliberalism continues to walk the earth we, the workers, will continue suffering. Thatcher got everything completely wrong about monetary economics. There is no "other people's money". All money is a creation of the State. Bitcoin is not money for instance, it is a fictional commodity plus a private payments system. You cannot use Bitcoins to pay your public tax liability. As Keynes said, anything the government accepts as receipt for a tax liability is by definition "money", effectively a government IOU.
And the government cannot run out of it's own IOU's. A currency issuing government can never be broke (not in it's own currency, but could be in debt in a foreign currency, so should never borrow foreign currency!), and can always pay bills due in it's own currency, forever, currency-sovereign government can never become insolvent, not ever, the leaders can think they are, but they never are. So they can ALWAYS pay teachers, pensioners, and healthcare workers etc salaries, forever, there is no financial operational constraint. The constraints are real resources: a government with infinite currency issuing capacity (i.e., most governments today outside the EU) can purchase anything for sale in their currency, but cannot hire more teacher than there are available teachers - a resource constraint, not a money constraint.
[**]This is not so for a family or currency-user, for them a negative number on their ledger is a claim a bank has on their future income. One reason why governments should spend sufficiently so all people willing to work can find a job, which when the private sector is not hiring means all just and fair governments who are currency issuers should be running job guarantee programs, or simply hiring all the newly unemployed during a recession.
[*] Local municipalities which are not currency issuers do tax us to get our money but only if their parent central government is not sufficiently funding them, the central government can always choose to fund local governments so that the local governments do not need to impose taxes to run basic social services.
Bars
hes literally a renowned professor i doubt he doesnt understand taxation
I think Slavoj likes Purna ❤wen marriage?
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00:09 01:00
I haven't laughed this much since Robin Williams