Top Mistakes Buying Solar Power Systems For Your Home
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Every quote I got was way overpriced and delivered less than half of what I ultimately needed. I ended up doing tons of research on my own and spec'd a system, ordered it from Signature Solar and had a local electrician help me install it. Total cost was about the same as the quotes but ended up with twice the solar and battery capacities. Let's be 100% honest, in these times, having solar is the answer to when grid power goes down or is turned off. Having the ability to keep the lights on and refrigerator cold is the difference between life and death, literally.
Awesome!! Pays to do your own research ahead of time.
Yeah your just shooting yourself in the foot with the wrong system and not realising the cost of installation could cost the same again as the hardware alone making it not very cost efficient to buy.
are you serious smh lol
Most homeowners cant install a faucet or light switch and you expect them to understand watts, kilowatts, converters, battery hookup options(string,series,etc) and why am I subsidising your electricity. Did they insure it? Is there now a lien on my property? Macro inverter or micro converters? Good luck!
This it a totally outstanding video. It is packed with much needed information that everyone should have. Have a blessed day in beautiful East Texas.
Glad it was helpful Rodney. Blessings.
Wow - that is a lot more involved than I had imagined. Thank you for sharing your experience!
You're welcome. It sure is.
Top notch summary for anyone considering a solar system. I spent a great deal of time over the course of a year learning the information you shared with us in a few minutes. So many have indicated their support for Signature Solar and their Black Friday sale plus the 30% tax credit indicated now was the time to make the move.
Thank you
I noticed that the people going around that don’t know even there own equipment. They have a script they try to stay on. And get power when the grid goes down. Batteries are expensive but it’s needed when the power is down. Your spot on. And you have the sound system. From the company I would buy from thanks again for your work.
You're welcome.
Yes, most door to door salesman don't know much about what they are selling.
our local power company (co-op) sent out a rep to sell us solar, but were going to tac on a $100/mnth on top of the lease of the equipment just to have solar. They also wouldn't let us put in a system for 100% of our usage, they capped it at 72%. The total monthly was going to be more than double our current utility bill. This is the driving force behind me doing our own research and putting our on DIY system in. Thanks so much for the informative series on solar!
You're welcome. Glad you saw how much of a scam it is with some of these companies.
🤗💗I appreciate this video, very informative. Finally someone who actually know what he's talking about. Thank you!!! Blessings 🙏💗
Glad we could help!
We love are solar. Good advice we have eg4 3000-watt inverters and 4400 watts of solar panels they run most everything in the house fridge,2 freezers, tv, laptops, fans, small ac, 1500-watt heater, etc not all at the same time. I learned all this in 2 months. Santan solar and Signaturesolar. Thank you and God Bless
Awesome!
Great info to prevent later headaches!
Hope it helps
Great video as usual! - Signature Solar Design Team
Thanks. I appreciate it.
I am so glad I found this video. I am in the process of getting plans and quotes together for building a new home. I have always wanted solar on my house before the big craze hit. In the new year I'm definitely going to get ahold of my local power company to figure out what they could possibly give me for credit if I decide to go with sending extra power to the grid.
Glad it was helpful!
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Yep this is what I did during the Black Friday sale. Got the inverters, same one eg4 6500 from signature solar but I bought all used panels from santan solar. They had or may have 15 percent off used panels as well. Think it worked out to 66 dollars a panel with shipping for 255 watt panels. At that rate a ground mount isn’t even worth it. Lean them on some bricks or old wood for airflow.
Glad you found some good deals.
Thank you so much for all this important information!
You’re welcome
Excellent insights. I appreciate you!🙌🏽
Thank you
Nice content, thanks for sharing that.
Thank you
Thank for great advice!
You’re welcome
Very valuable information I love your videos and watch your channel more than the others. You explain it better than anyone on youtube and you answered a lot of my questions and it's deeply appreciated. Just pulled the trigger and bought my system yesterday. I went with 2 eg4 6500ex's with 12 eg4 5.12kw batteries for a total of 60kwh backup. I got the a pallet of 36 blue sun 475 watt bi facials and will have 2strings of 8 in series going into each inverter which should total about 15000w+ of pv coming in, im in Florida and where my ground mount is going is full sun all day i mean no shade what so ever and about 30 yards from house I am about 5 miles in the woods on 7 acres from closest power pole and will be completely off grid been building my house for about 6 months now for solar all block walls everything spray foamed insulation all led lights most efficient appliances, we will be powering a 240 well pump, 2.5ton ac, water heater, washer, dryer, convection oven, microwave and a few low wattage phone chargers and small misulanious stuff. There's to much division coming out the television so there will be no tv or suround sound we just keep up with the stuff we watch on little tablets or phones. So my quote from signature solar went from quote to order yesterday so I still have a small window to change anything before I wire the money. My question to you or anyone else with knowledge does this system look doable for whole house and Also did you have to turn in schematics and all that to building department or you did not have to mess with any of that. I'm preapproved for solar before I even started the building process but they want schematics and details on paper before install. Thanks again for all the videos and questions you have answered for me the last year or so very grateful 🙏
Thanks. Glad it was helpful.
Sounds like the system is big enough. We didn't need schematics of a permit here in the Texas countryside. I cannot speak to FL regulations though.
@@CountryLivingExperience Awesome thanks for the response 👍 so if I want to charge my bank via generator I would need AC to DC charger that signature offers and I would probably need a few of them seeing I'm gonna have 12 batteries??
@@savedforever7702 Correct. I would talk to them re: how many you would need.
Awesome information video, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Great help, thank you.
You’re welcome
Great video
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Great video!!
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great job. thank you
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Calculating energy usage and then Solar production changes to seasonal time summer will be much higher than winter due to daylight length and most importantly UV radiation (Strength of Sun).
This is a must-watch before DIY Solar Panels!
Thank you
i was looking for a video that would help me with research... but you told me to do it myself...
Great ideas, nice info, thanks..
You’re welcome
Great Video
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Interesting info
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Simply explaining
Thanks
Great content, GO SPARTY
Thank you. Go Green!
Good information. I have the two EG4 - 6500 inverters, 6 EG4 batteries and 12,800 watts of ground mount solar panels and also tied to grid. Still fighting a ground loop issue that causes lights to blink and coffee pot to reset. Still doing research.
The lights can typically flicker under heavy inductive loads. But it shouldn’t be enough to reset electronics. Could be an issue with a loose neutral.
Thanks.
I get flicker on one circuit of lights. I think it is because of my wiring and that circuit is overloaded. Most of the lights that flicker are LED......hmmmm.
Is it the issue with the bonding screw in the inverter that creates a second ground point making a loop?
@@kman0074 I tried that solution and did not make a difference. I replaced screw as sig solar said it would void my warranty.
@@kman0074 the bonding screw wouldn’t affect the lights. The light flicker is normal with high frequency inverters especially with large inductive loads.
I have 8kw total of solar panels and a Tesla PW3 on order. Can't wait for the install.
Awesome!
pretty good info
Glad it was helpful!
Great advice. Question? In terms of sizing my system. What if I’m building a house and have no previous idea of usage. Can I just guesstimate around 7kw per day for main house and 5kw per day for1-2 bedrooms short term rental apartments?
Those are very low numbers compared to here. What are your loads. I would take some time to think about all the appliances including air conditioning and make a load chart.
Great video, im moving to alaska in a few years and im a noob when it comes to anything solar
Thank you.
I have many videos on DIY solar installs if you need help.
Keeping my offgrid separate from my Grid connection, Net metering you have to keep homeowners insurance and personally I would rather take that insurance money and buy my PV system with those funds, my payoff is fairly mute in that situation. Just not carrying homeowner insurance paid for my system in a few years on its own.
Yes I totally agree no roofs !!!!
I was considering ground mount but my metal roof will be fine long after I'm gone and it faces the perfect direction
@@bobcole3852 they are going to be there a long time , do not forget maintenance ,, repair and cleaning . Ya , no one talks about cleaning the panels , but they need it once in a while . No roofs man bad idea !!
Does your system capable of solar self-consumption? Using the batteries and solar generation to handle your loads both during the day and during the night, especially since your system has batteries. Can you run your inverters in parallel with the grid? Also, how does the NEC 120% rule apply in this situation?
This is an off grid system NEC 120 does not apply. It is self consuming and in no way grid tied.
Thank you! Just to clarify so I'm not mistaken. You can use a Hybrid interactive inverter without batteries. It just acts like a grid tied inverter. You could then add batteries as you can afford them later. Right?
You’re welcome. Correct 👍
Because scaffolding in the uk has to be erected to do roof work for safety reasons it can be the same again as the cost of the system if you are not having your roof done at the same time. One neighbour put them on the gable end side wall of the house as opposed to the roof which would obviously make it more cost effective to fit.
That is crazy. Sounds as though a ground mount solution will be the best for you.
What kind of hybrid solar system is available to backup your house when the grid goes down and utilize the batteries to supply your house loads during the evening when solar is not available? It appears that the NEC 120% rules prevents this. Is the answer to have an offgrid system and a grid-tie system?
I would contact Signature Solar's technical department and ask about this. So many people have hybrid systems and don't have an issues.
Great videos, subscribed! I’m in the beginning stages of planning a solar system. Do you know if it’s possible to have a system where I can run mostly off grid along with battery backup, but also have the ability to either automatically or manually connect to the grid or a gas generator to recharge batteries when it’s needed? I’ve seen a few videos where you need to disconnect the battery set, then use a charge controller connected to generator. But are there components available to make this easier to do?Without having to disconnect the battery set. I can’t seem to find the answer anywhere. Thanks in advance!
Thank you. I have a very similar system to what you are describing or wanting. We have about 25 videos on solar. Check out our solar playlist here....czcams.com/play/PLe8gvCbPFkexFmUtg3xRS4sTZQ1Ve-ft1.html
what you need should be off-grid solar power system. the off-grid inverter with auto switch function can auto switch to grid or generator.
Hybrid inverter should do the trick😊
Hi, you made big sense, I am from Brooklyn NY flat roof, which solar system do I need ? I want to use maximum solar for my whole house when it’s not available may be in winter then automatically my greed compnay start. planing to buy from China but what this system called or named ?
Thank you.
I would not buy anything directly from China. They don't always work with the American grid and could be dangerous.
Your first step is to figure out how much electricity you use per month. You can see that on your electric bill. It should say how many kWh.
I buy all of my equipment from www.signaturesolar.com/?ref=countrylivingexperience. They are awesome.
I have always wanted a solar off grid battery system with a few wind turbines for night time backup.
You can achieve that goal.
One to add to this is home owners insurance. Some of the companies are starting to refuse or increase rates especially if roof mounted. A lot of them won’t cover the solar items either.
True
I love your content- I will add that Signature Solar's customer service leaves room for improvement... maybe they used to be great, but now it's almost impossible to get someone to call you back and then they want pics of the install so they can blame it on you regardless of the issue.
Thank you.
They are growing out at a very fast rate. Growing pains are part of it. Whenever they ask me for pics it is to help identify any potential problem. I have never had an issue.
@@CountryLivingExperience I understand that as I install solar for a living. I only point this out because they want pics of things installed and then do not respond. I think the products they carry are solid (stay away from the 6k Eg4 Inverters) but the customer service leaves room... "Hey, this inverter that was just installed is giving this errror"... "Send us pics so we can diagnose"... Done- 5 calls later... Oh yeah, these inverters may need a firmware update that we don't yet have.. Me- "So I am stuck with it until you figure it out? Them- "um, yes. We will keep you on the email list...
This is the 3rd time in as many months. Just FYI
Ah, I understand. Thanks for the heads up.
What is wrong with the EG4 inverters? I have the 6500's
@@CountryLivingExperience when units are paralleled, they will not communicate properly due to a firmware issue. Alone, they work just fine. I have seen on 3 occasions now where multiple units F08 after a few seconds and then stop working completely even with zero load on them. Thank you for your videos btw, I refer them out to many people that are in the beginning stages of solar and I personally have learned a lot from you, Will and David-
@@jasonhensley947 Thanks again for the heads up. I will keep and eye out for that F08 fault. Mine have been working well together so far. I really appreciate you recommending out vids.
Tell everyone about the repairs and cost involved. Make sure power companies will buy back extras. A lot will not because they are loosing money. Upkeep can kill you in expenses
Where is your farm located?
I was just looking at getting solar power. With my usage I would need 90 panels I use 3500 klwh to 4000 a month. The installer wanted to charge me 75000 . I am going to do me self probably could do it for under 30000 also they tried to talk me in to putting it on my roof. I knew right then they were trying to rip me off by putting it on my roof so they could keep coming to fix it and charge the hell out of me I have 6 acres so a ground mount is the best way to go so I could take it with me when I sell
75k?!? Damn. I feel like that's a lot of usage though. During peak summer I was at 1400 kwh. What area are you located in?
Panels and inverters possibly. But you definitely won’t have battery backup for 30k with that usage.
For a Grid-tied only* (no batt.) PV system using 3500-4000 kWh's / mo.** (& if you are in lower US. receiving between 4-6 sun-hours/ day), the system size should be (roughly without site specifics) between 30-36kW+. So, for turn-key Grid-tied at ~2 $ to--2.5$/ Watt* US avg., cost est. $60,000+. (Grd. mount will cost even more.) ** avg. US. home uses ~1,200 kWh/ mo.
Wow. 3500 to 4k? That is about 3 times the national average.
75k would have not been bad for a system of that size but you can absolutely do it for less by doing it yourself.
My RV is older then 10 years , I wanted to be off grid with solar panels , I believe some of the roof is metal and some of it is fiber glass . Is it a bad idea because of how old my RV is to put solar panels on it ?
I don't know. I know nothing about RV roofs. Sorry.
Does Signature have an outlet in Australia? Or can you recommend the best solar company for Australia please?
They only have one location in the US. I don't know of any companies in Australia. Sorry.
@@CountryLivingExperience thanks for replying :)
One video talks about Growatt inverter and how it is the best then another video talks about EG4 inverters being used. What are you using now and what happened to make that change?
I am using the Growatts to build a system for my barn which is on a different transformer. They are still great. I am using the EG4's for my house because they have a bit more power.
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After watching this video, I started shopping for Mercedez, Toyota, and Honda solar systems. Where can I find them coz I've been searching?
Signature Solar is awesome. Here is the link...www.signaturesolar.com/?ref=countrylivingexperience
Why not cut a few trees? I assume you get your production at least during midday, but it definitely looks like lots of daylight left, and your entire system is shaded. Researching for a year and choosing the best panels still won't do much if they're shaded ☺
Oké.fratelo.
Why is your ground mount in a shaded area??
It was 7am when I shot this video. This is how my property is. I still get 4.5 hours of sun in the winter.
the mistake is not knowing that you don't know - applies to anything in life
I want to start buying some panels but am not sure what watt panels I should buy
It will depend on your budget. A 300 watt panel may be only $100. Some 450 watt panels are around $170 right now.
@@CountryLivingExperience okay thanks
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I check in to my area power provider they buy at 7.5 cents per Kw/h and give back credit at that rate but they dont give credit in the electricity form meaning if i make 10 KW in the day and send back to grid they change that 10KW in to money and if i use same 10 KW at night from grid. I still get charged for it cause when i buy my power back it cost me 16 cents/ KW. The deficit of 9 cents will go out of my pocket. These companies are so sneaky how they write their terms and conditions. I am planning to get powerbank that can hold enough power for couple nights so i rather use that than buying back from grid at higher rate.
They are very sneaky. That is why I went off-grid. Thank you for sharing your experience.
I’m guessing that the local government utility commission that are funded by tax payers regulates this stuff and wonder how they justify allowing such things to happen.
Thank you, in Europe if you are not registered electrician and you install the solar system yourself then you got a Thermal runaway, you are in your own there, insurance companies will not rebuild your house
The installer wants to source cheap product and get a higher markup.
Hi are you in Michigan
I grew up in MI. I live in Texas now.
you mentioned a couple of knowledgeable folks near the end. ?
Is there a "cap" for the tax incentive?
No cap at the moment.
No cap at the moment.
Nope
We wanted solar just to keep our two freezers going 1st price 48000 2nd price 15000 plus so we're not going solar it's just my daughter and I so we couldn't do it on our own
You can build a small system for $3000 to $4000 that would be a perfect backup for your freezers and some lights. You could also add to the system as your budget allows so that you could eventually run your whole house. Whom ever gave you that pricing did not listen to your needs.
There’s also the option of the smaller grid tie inverters combined with the correct solar panels and you can run them all day for free.
Free cheap led tv yaaaaaaaah
Top mistake for buying solar panels for your home is buying them for your home. Even if they produce, and they don't break you, and the utility lets you send power to the network many insurers will refuse to ensure your home if you have them.
A neighbor of mine could not get a new roof because of the solar panels
Oh man, that is a bummer. That is one of the tough parts about having panels on your roof.
Don’t do it just turn off ur lights u won’t have a bill other wise ur stuck paying
Will it last 150 mph wind? No. Then the frame is trash.. you know wind will come.. that is why you didn't put it on your house.
With all of the pitfalls to look out for, this video just made me not want to buy anything else ever again in this country. Too many crooks and crappy products out there no point in even trying. Thanks for the video
You're welcome. That sounds very defeatist though. Don't give up.
No, not every company is a scam. Only most of them lol
PPA or Leases are garbage!! Please don’t do that to yourself.
Exactly
Just me, but if I had to come back home each day and see that monstrosity in the front yard it would be totally depressing.
Lol
I put in my own system for about $13,000 and I said screw the permit and put my system in zero export mode. It saves me about $2500 per year and I took the 30% tax credit on the $13,000. 😂😂😂😂
Nice. I did the same
This is hilarious.
Don't get solar panels my friends brother got solar panels paid 500.00 a month in addition to paying for his electric bill. After he died the solar company would not cancel or take back the solar panels and the new owner has to pay for it for the duration of her brother's lease.
Your friends brother was preyed upon and did not read or research what he was getting into. I promote installing solar yourself as a self sufficient alternative to hedge against rising electric costs. Just saying "don't buy solar panels" is not understanding solar systems and the options at all.
Bruh you got solar power? Man I just installed an entire nuclear reactor in my backyard
Nice Left Brain presentation. Like those thinking white men.
Buy cheap Buy Twice
MOST OF US AREN'T LAWYERS ,,, I am not going to get solar panels, it's too complicated. I have a regular house. What we need ,,, turn on light switch and it comes on. I don't have to worry about inverters/converters, batteries, cloudy day, etc ,,, I plug in my refrigerator or toaster etc and it works. What the hell? Some day someone is going to invent a package system, unfold solar panels and plug it into my house, end of story.
Calm down. If you don't want them, don't get them.
A lot of people like myself want solar for off grid reliability in times where grid power is down.
Instead of making us do all the mundane footwork, just tell us what you think is best.
Tax credit what taxes do I owe zero I'm not going to get money back for the solar panels I've been buying cuz I don't owe any back Texas I won't get any money back because my texts are always paid and the only extra taxes I get a Pacer x you to buy the inverters buy the batteries buy the solar panels . But you got to pay when you buy the system so there is no actual extension when you buy solar panels so what the point is I try and claim text savion going to get nothing back when you don't oh anyting. I have a job money comes out of my check for taxes it's the law can I fill out my taxes at the end of every year or I should I say do my text I'm in February to April and I don't fall behind the text that I have to pay to go anything when I don't fall behind so I never have to pay more taxes when I don't fall behind. Maybe people need to get jobs maybe that's why they're not paying taxes.
Top mistake buying solar? Is buying solar. Get a whole house generator.
Lol.
No Thank you.
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