CURRENT JACK HANMA VS KURE RAIAN | HOW STRONG ARE THEY

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  • @mysteriousweeb
    @mysteriousweeb  Před 2 měsíci +25

    Currently on holiday legends, but finally got this video done ❤

  • @HebiSaru21
    @HebiSaru21 Před 2 měsíci +220

    People *REALLY* underestimating *and* forgetting Raian purposely holds back just for the Sadistic Thrill of overwhelming his opponents when he can just slap someone down asap using his family's secret techniques

    • @therevanchist2888
      @therevanchist2888 Před 2 měsíci +24

      Yes everyone knows he plays with his food and holds back but even at 100% going all out he will not beat Jack in the end the levels of power are still too different

    • @dad691
      @dad691 Před 2 měsíci +22

      Jack fought a dude who eats trexes 💀💀

    • @Beast-fq7rp
      @Beast-fq7rp Před 2 měsíci +3

      Exactly like if Raian take it serious it’s wraps

    • @user-sv3fx3jt6v
      @user-sv3fx3jt6v Před 2 měsíci +31

      Dude Jack Hanma at 19 Years old Kill a 15 M Siberian Bear Who Destroyed and Is stronger Than A the Current Russian Tank💀. He killed it with just His bare HAND and this is his teen Life.

    • @user-sv3fx3jt6v
      @user-sv3fx3jt6v Před 2 měsíci +26

      And he Defeated Garland Who Defeated 18-19 Years old Hanayama. This version Of Hanayama in The spin Off Destroyed A Armored Vehicle that Grenade, RPG, Modern Weapon can't destroyed it And Hanayama Destroyed It WITH ONE STRIKE. THIS IS THE SAME MAN THAT GET SHOT BY 30 TIMES AND TAKING IT LIKE A PAPER. LIKE SERIOUSLY.

  • @shvvagier4951
    @shvvagier4951 Před 2 měsíci +90

    Raian mid-high diffs Maximum tournament Jack, current Jack mid diffs Raian

    • @Interlink.
      @Interlink. Před 2 měsíci +16

      Current jack no diffs the verse

    • @shvvagier4951
      @shvvagier4951 Před 2 měsíci +25

      ​@@Interlink.
      Are you joking right now or being serious? Top tiers of kengan are right now on Kaku Kaioh level and some of them are slightly stronger, Jack would no diff Kaku? Kengan downplay is wild.

    • @JoeyJordisonLover
      @JoeyJordisonLover Před 2 měsíci +7

      ​@@shvvagier4951Even the highest ranking Kengan fighters aren't on Kaku's lvl💀

    • @GodlyODB
      @GodlyODB Před 2 měsíci +13

      @@shvvagier4951definitely not kaku kaioh level, more like Baki dou Oliva level. You know still strong but still able to be 1 shot

    • @taitpeter9238
      @taitpeter9238 Před 2 měsíci

      @@shvvagier4951stop making sht up kengan is no where baki. I can tell yo ass dont even read baki

  • @eggmcmuffin6067
    @eggmcmuffin6067 Před 2 měsíci +76

    I feel like the overall power levels of Kengan are about to increase across the board, given what Shen talked about with Ohma plus what Raian showed in the recent chapter. Wouldn’t be surprised if the other top tiers get similar power ups.

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yup bro literally neg diffed a guy who had superman syndrome nd 100%Guihun dats op feat

  • @brandonthompson1920
    @brandonthompson1920 Před 2 měsíci +39

    It's still hard to believe that Baki is about to get some smoke from oma. That is something that was believed to be a fantasy fight that would only exist in our minds and now it has come to reality with no warning. It's so unbelievable I have actually gone back to watch the trailer multiple times I have to force myself to believe it.

  • @pepsi4798
    @pepsi4798 Před 2 měsíci +104

    Raian Kure is what Yujiro thought Baki would be when he grow up, personality of course

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr Před 2 měsíci +11

      Strength and speed as well. Kengan characters are just way to fast for Baki characters. Baki characters always get beat by regular stuff except yujiro or musashi. Baki got knocked out by being slam on his back and hit in his solar plexus in 2 different fights like every other person in the world. Kengan characters will blitz them.

    • @CoolAssBoi
      @CoolAssBoi Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@sky-oq5mr the only thing kengan verse take is speed while baki verse get all of the stat, hell nah, the baki verse solo kengan verse🗿

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@CoolAssBoi can't solo what you can't touch. They hit hard enough to slump the Baki characters and the Baki characters will never touch them. Baki characters durability is straight garbage. The best in the verse again like Baki and hanayama, get knocked out by regular ass stuff. Hanayama recently fell and was knocked out in a fight from it. Baki was slammed on his back and passed out from it. Retsu was almost killed by Joe Fraizer in boxing. Those guys would get slaughtered by kengan characters, they are too fast.

    • @berserk3380
      @berserk3380 Před 2 měsíci +31

      ​@@sky-oq5mrSpeed? Have you even watched Baki?

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci

      Have u watched Kengan bruh​@@berserk3380

  • @emresin
    @emresin Před 2 měsíci +34

    7'11 not 7'9

  • @itsraiankure
    @itsraiankure Před měsícem +4

    Ohma: let me use my Possesing spirit / Niko style
    Baki: I’ll be taking that

  • @user-vz8hw6mb4d
    @user-vz8hw6mb4d Před 2 měsíci +20

    243cm = 7'11 not 7'9

    • @MeretHeret
      @MeretHeret Před 2 měsíci +2

      Doesn’t even read the series

    • @user-vz8hw6mb4d
      @user-vz8hw6mb4d Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@MeretHeret i mean height bro 243 is slighty 8 feet (244cm), actual height 7'11

    • @westernharo74822
      @westernharo74822 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@user-vz8hw6mb4dhe’s agreeing. Mysterious weeb doesnt watch or read enough

  • @snakepeoplejerry562
    @snakepeoplejerry562 Před 26 dny +3

    Base vs Base, Jack wins with relative ease.
    Post transformation fight, Jack wins high difficulty.
    Despite Raian winning, he took way more damage, so of the fight continues, I can confidentally say that Jack can win if the fight wasn't stopped.

  • @Hector_-bm9mr
    @Hector_-bm9mr Před 2 měsíci +6

    I believe if Raian decides to use The Kure Clan Tradition techniques back to back like he did with Alan Wu, with techniques such as “Avidya” and lands it he can easily Blind Jack, then continue to follow it up with Remival and finish off Jack with a lions bite or the technique he used to finish off Edward Wu

    • @mike90susanoo84
      @mike90susanoo84 Před měsícem +1

      The anime setting doesn’t take place anywhere near Omega so it’s least likely he’d be doing it

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem +1

      Jack would just pretend like he doesn’t know where raian is then Jack catches him off guard, grabs raian, then proceeds to destroy him after saying his famous line. “Beautiful”

  • @jasongriffin7927
    @jasongriffin7927 Před 2 měsíci +40

    I believe, even with 100% Release, Raian is a bit below Jack. However, I think Raian is definitely faster. But there's also the fact that Raian doesn't use Kure techniques that often while just simply doesn't have as many techniques of his own. If Jack lands a few well placed bites then Raian might struggle to maintain Release for very long.

    • @Pastamist
      @Pastamist Před 2 měsíci +1

      I think Jack is faster via feats and scaling with other Baki characters personally BUT it’s not like Raian is totally powerless to blitzing, as Kengan characters in particular have a way to deal with way faster opponents, like Kuroki vs. Rei (and Kuroki couldn’t even perceive Rei)

    • @Beast-fq7rp
      @Beast-fq7rp Před 2 měsíci +2

      How is Raian below Jack? Raian just no diff William who has Superman Sydrome and Guihun which is 3.33 multiplier. If anything Raian is above Jack even in base form. If Raian was to take the fight serious and go into Removal off the back Jack is getting blitz without a doubt the power gap would be huge. Now I do believe if we take in character Jack does have a change with Raian since he does bs with his fights.

    • @Pastamist
      @Pastamist Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@Beast-fq7rp Thing is, Raian never beat Willem in brute strength, even Willem said so himself. But Raian’s new “redirection” abilities may prevent Jack from applying his full strength unless Jack uses Aiki, which he does know.

    • @Beast-fq7rp
      @Beast-fq7rp Před 2 měsíci

      @@Pastamist no Raian was stronger based on AP and Speed it’s true he didn’t overpower William while he had the sword that was only time, other than that we saw in the fight Raian was beating William in stats.

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr Před 2 měsíci +2

      The Baki characters aren't durable. They are strong but lack durability. They get koed by normal attacks all the time by random people. Hanayama just got knocked out by falling. Raian as much as I love Baki since I grew up with it, would blitz 99% of the verse only excluding Musashi and Yujiro.

  • @jay_officialtv4000
    @jay_officialtv4000 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The only reason it’s hard to scale because Baki shows how strong the characters through showing super feats real world but Kengan shows through battle and interactions

  • @venomshot2815
    @venomshot2815 Před 2 měsíci +13

    The earquake feats and the lightning feat is due to yujiro's aura and presence. He can't move at lightning speeds and he can't shift entire tectonic plates with a punch

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  Před 2 měsíci +8

      Wrong

    • @venomshot2815
      @venomshot2815 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@mysteriousweeb If I'm wrong then we have to discard most fights in the series

    • @MeretHeret
      @MeretHeret Před 2 měsíci +11

      @@mysteriousweebwrong. I’m mysterious weeb so you’re WRONG

    • @evgeniygerkus9242
      @evgeniygerkus9242 Před měsícem +1

      You actually brought up something nobody ever does when it comes to scaling earthquake feats. Even in real life different types of human activities, such as mining operations, can start an earthquake. However, stopping an earthquake belongs entirely in the realm of fiction. Yujiro's feat is a bit too absurd even for Baki's world, so I personally believe that the earthquake just stopped by itself, but if it didn't, then Yujiro is confirmed to be able to move tectonic plates and that is far and beyond of what even Shen was shown capable of.

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem +1

      @@venomshot2815It’s canon, yujiro flung pickle with a technique which usually doesn’t work on him because pickle has been known to batter dinosaurs with his fist and ate them including the T-Rex and Trike. Current Yujiro is a FARR greater monster now

  • @thehonoredone2361
    @thehonoredone2361 Před 2 měsíci +18

    The battle of big boi chads.

  • @krantzcapricorn3462
    @krantzcapricorn3462 Před 2 měsíci +12

    No martial artist beats Hanma

  • @jgrAnimations23
    @jgrAnimations23 Před měsícem +5

    June 6 we're gonna see it!

    • @a_guy_in_the_internet
      @a_guy_in_the_internet Před 23 dny

      How was it?

    • @jgrAnimations23
      @jgrAnimations23 Před 23 dny

      @@a_guy_in_the_internet it was great imo 8/10
      Jack's fight was disappointing a bit

    • @a_guy_in_the_internet
      @a_guy_in_the_internet Před 23 dny

      @@jgrAnimations23 haha nice happy you love it!
      And uhhh yeah for some reason even tho i was cheering for raian (He should lose logicly tho) the end of the fight still didnt satifiy me at all, the fight also felt really short
      I mean all of them are but this one specifcly should've be longer since they talked alot
      But yeah i still enjoyed it lol

  • @markomurisic1354
    @markomurisic1354 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The battle of legends and my fav charecters from both series a fight we wish to see

  • @rabupaul608
    @rabupaul608 Před 2 měsíci

    we also need to mention the use of otakemaru (Raians sword), because we have seen that in baki there have been cases where characters used weapons like Musashi and Motobe

  • @chojinnppp
    @chojinnppp Před 2 měsíci

    Close, I agree. If we're contemplating what might happen in a crossover, some of the comic-book character edge of the Bakiverse would need to be ground away, and that helps Raian.

  • @mr.greenstone
    @mr.greenstone Před 2 měsíci +1

    These two chad's duking it out would be peak fiction

  • @jylerexhvela
    @jylerexhvela Před 2 měsíci +43

    Gaolang can only throw 15 jabs per second💀 the average street thug in baki can achieve 10x that speed

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  Před 2 měsíci +19

      brings up baki's 0.5 second unconscious technique

    • @jylerexhvela
      @jylerexhvela Před 2 měsíci +20

      @@mysteriousweeb nowhere is it stated bakis speed is withing the confines of 0.5 seconds but merely that he simply attacked within the 0.5 seconds of unconscious, in contrast the gaolang statement is a direct speed feat and limit saying gaolanf can only strike 15x in 1 second which wouldn't even be worthy for a random shinshinkai member in terms of speed

    • @jylerexhvela
      @jylerexhvela Před 2 měsíci +14

      @@mysteriousweeb musashi attacked yujiro and had a exchange with him all occurring within "0.000.....???" This one feat alone but the baki verse not 2x not 5x but a almost uncalculable amount of times above kengan in speed, gaolang is arguable the 2nd to 5th fastest striker in the series yet he can only produced 15 strikes within a second

    • @jylerexhvela
      @jylerexhvela Před 2 měsíci +17

      @@mysteriousweeb ur whole 0.5 second counter argument is weak because the 0.5 seconds in merely described as the unconscious time frame, not anybody attack speed or limit like gaolangs, for example even ali jr was koing people within 0.1 time frames casually too, ali jr was someone introduced 6 arcs ago btw

    • @ThugaliciousYT
      @ThugaliciousYT Před 2 měsíci +2

      Gah damn wtf 😂

  • @bankaidakota
    @bankaidakota Před 2 měsíci +1

    Would love to see Akoya's reaction and hear his thoughts to witnessing Jack using goudou in a match

  • @santutamang-fg5fi
    @santutamang-fg5fi Před 2 měsíci +55

    Jack win in low diff❤

    • @thefirstprime0124
      @thefirstprime0124 Před 2 měsíci +12

      Cap

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  Před 2 měsíci +31

      Now you can watch the video ❤️

    • @lifeisalie8922
      @lifeisalie8922 Před 2 měsíci +10

      ​@@thefirstprime0124 BIG cap😂

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Srsly I mean meat riding won't stop 😂😂

    • @luce698
      @luce698 Před 2 měsíci +3

      That is so unbelievably cap you should be ashamed of yourself

  • @alucard1522
    @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci

    Perfect video 👍👍👍

  • @derrickhaggard
    @derrickhaggard Před měsícem

    And now we're getting this fight in anime form.

  • @evgeniygerkus9242
    @evgeniygerkus9242 Před měsícem +1

    What's the difference between "the removal" and what Gaia uses as per his explanation during his fight against Baki?

  • @Trance222
    @Trance222 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Jack makes easy work of Raian. Aside from Shen, no one in the Kengan verse touches the upper tiers of Baki

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem

      Raian is equal to wakatsuki and Julius in terms of raw strength, each of those people are above jack in terms of strength.
      In terms of speed, it's not close at all, 19yr old raian caught Rei's lightning speed punch in base form and called it slow. Durability also goes to raian, someone like katsumi who barely moved faster than sound broke his hand cuz of his weak durability.... Mid tiers in kengan move at lightning speeds and nothing happens to them
      Raian negs

  • @user-lc4yc1ul9w
    @user-lc4yc1ul9w Před 22 dny +1

    They disrespected my boy jack hanma he better get his revenge !

  • @invincibleluis
    @invincibleluis Před 2 měsíci

    I think it could go either way, both are beasts

  • @ChickenUnion
    @ChickenUnion Před 2 měsíci +1

    just casually ignoring Jack's strongest feats is crazy

  • @nicolefernandez92
    @nicolefernandez92 Před 2 měsíci +4

    😊😊🏆🏆
    Just wondering if Kure Karura might be in the movie like she save Kozue in the alley from the thugs (just thinking)
    Hope the movie will be like 3 hours long

  • @theredgoblin562
    @theredgoblin562 Před měsícem +1

    I like to point out that even yujiro losing to tranquilizers is consistent to pickle being put to sleep. Guns in baki dont scale to melotonin

  • @dc56789
    @dc56789 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I like Jack and I know my opinions are unpopular but Raian is winning this one.

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci

      👍👍👍👍👍

    • @mike90susanoo84
      @mike90susanoo84 Před měsícem

      They’ll prolly make Jack lose the fight in the anime but at the same time nearly destroying Raian with the ref having to save him from getting a final blow from Jack

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem +2

      ​@@mike90susanoo84 if the fight goes according to what both characters have shown, then Raian wouldn't even need to use removal, and just absolutely speed blitz jack and humiliate him.

    • @OfficialDraii
      @OfficialDraii Před 28 dny

      Bro they nerfed jack n u know it, Jack was BITING INTO HIM N CREATING HOLES IN HIS BODY, how tf does ohms beat him with punches but jack is literally biting holes n still looses

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 28 dny +1

      @@OfficialDraii dey nerfed Jack lmao looks like u can't accept da truth dat Raian can whoop Jack's ass

  • @ITETIOL
    @ITETIOL Před měsícem

    What’s the best site/app I can read the Kengan series on? Idk if you can read it on any sites that aren’t sketchy asf or any app for free but if anyone knows please share 😭🙏

  • @jamesdowdy5239
    @jamesdowdy5239 Před 2 měsíci

    Kinda sad they didn’t give Katsumi his arm but I forget the animated versions hasn’t gotten to when he gets “an” arm back in the manga

  • @JoeyJordisonLover
    @JoeyJordisonLover Před 2 měsíci +4

    If Jack is stronger than current Pickle now then beating Raian wouldn't even be a challenge

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Lol maybe read omega current Raian is op as fuck

    • @JoeyJordisonLover
      @JoeyJordisonLover Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@alucard1522 Already did, I still stand by my statement tho😤

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah u do lmao​@@JoeyJordisonLover

    • @Eichhornchen-pincone
      @Eichhornchen-pincone Před měsícem +2

      @@alucard1522 Omega Raian is still not strong enough for Rahen Jack , dude just need to be caught and it will be a sukune incident again.

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před měsícem

      @@Eichhornchen-pincone Raian need 2 get hold of Jack's mouth nd it's gonna be Alan incident

  • @JackgarPrime
    @JackgarPrime Před 13 dny

    Raian seems to be undergoing a significant leap in power and skill currently, especially judging by how easily he packed and smoked those two Wu Clan guys, absolutely dog-walking them while implying through how the sword works that he may have developed some of his principles to a level approaching the Connector. So it's hard to say where his ceiling is now. We'll get a better idea where he's really at when he inevitably ends up fighting a guy like Gilbert Wu. It's pretty clear that's the fight they'd be building to for Raian.
    Also, for the sake of the crossover, I think they went with the right result.

  • @Prince_Brago
    @Prince_Brago Před 2 měsíci +1

    No please make a video on Gilbert wu vs Kure rainin . I mean this is super hype at the moment . Hope you understand. After William death it’s super clear

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci

      Agreed Willem was an absolute powerhouse but Raian made him a freakin joke

  • @KuddlesbergTheFirst
    @KuddlesbergTheFirst Před 2 měsíci +1

    Will Raian be like Toguro going 120% or maybe train his quality so his 1% can match Jack's 1%?

  • @alexakos1223
    @alexakos1223 Před 2 měsíci +3

    We know that Raian was scaling as an equal to physical power with Julius and waka, and that was KAT Raian. Now he low diffed willem who was at 100% guihun while having superman syndrome, and Willem is arguably way way above KAT Waka Julius and Raian. And current base Raian was toying with full power Willem. Raian is a fck monster, i can't even imagine what a 100% removal serious Raian can do rn. He might be the strongest physically in the kengan verse, I don't see waka and Julius getting huge buff in strength they've milked most of they're growth, while Raian will continue to grow

    • @floppa731
      @floppa731 Před 2 měsíci +2

      He has literally never been considered equal in strength to Waka and Julius. They are said specifically to be the physically strongest above Raian. Also It’s been established that Waka will always get physically stronger without even having to train. With Julius keeping up with his absurd training

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@floppa731Lol current Raian dogwalks Waka nd Julius nd he even can make Willem stagger with delivering blows in base u think dats a joke nd Willem is stronger dan Waka nd Julius

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@floppa731Raian, Waka nd Julius were on same ballpark interms of strength da weight of individual makes all da difference

    • @mike90susanoo84
      @mike90susanoo84 Před měsícem

      @@alucard1522Not all Superman syndromes are the same as Wakatsuki lol, yan and his brother have it but aren’t even as strong strong with strength. Wakatsuki and Julius by strength are still above Raian regardless if Willem had it with gui hun. Techniques sure Raian is above em but strength they still dominate him. Going back pass statements Ohma did stated Waka’s blow are stronger

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem +1

      And raian is currently only like 23 if I'm not wrong, in KAT he was 19, then there was a 2yr time skip, and another 2yr time skip, raian is nowhere near his full potential.
      While waka is like 30+yrs old, best he can do is try and refine his techniques more

  • @5chuck5
    @5chuck5 Před 2 měsíci +3

    243 centimeters is 7 foot 11

  • @justinmcdonald2072
    @justinmcdonald2072 Před 2 měsíci

    Good breakdown, I think Raian wins he is melding techniques to his development that exceed his natural performance. Jack is taking the obscure path of a Hanma patterning his style around biting is a sneaky move, like a nut shot or hidden blade.
    Both get frazzled when their best gets tanked, maybe they will get into deep water fights that drives them to go all out.

  • @i-yell-a-lot4906
    @i-yell-a-lot4906 Před měsícem +1

    DUDE NEEDS TO STOP BITING PEOPLE.

  • @leroyngwenya7095
    @leroyngwenya7095 Před 2 měsíci +10

    I say raian wins this simply due to him being the greater of the two when it comes to technique, although Jack has developed a strong martial art it's still young and unrefined and he himself is not a killer whereas killing what raian does for a living.

    • @thefirstprime0124
      @thefirstprime0124 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Also Didn't Raian beat someone who has what wakasuki has but I get it isn't as strong as wakasuki but he uses release and Raian fought him Base form and it looks like he's stronger so Raian in base alone should be close to Jack right?

    • @Toddles
      @Toddles Před 2 měsíci +20

      L take

    • @jacobpalacios6937
      @jacobpalacios6937 Před 2 měsíci +3

      huge W take

    • @kertdeck
      @kertdeck Před 2 měsíci +11

      @@jacobpalacios6937get some sense.
      Jack 7”11
      >killed polar bear
      >created martial art.

    • @jameamason8697
      @jameamason8697 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@jacobpalacios6937Massive L Take*

  • @lemonpossum7894
    @lemonpossum7894 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I just don't see why we had to point to everyone but them to see their power levels esp in series like Baki where the power levels are whatever the hell the author wants them to be, I came into this expecting to see a real comparison between Jack and Raian and all I got was yapping about Yujiro's earthquake feat and Demon's bane
    A rare miss man

  • @Mpi8lil
    @Mpi8lil Před 2 měsíci +1

    I can actually see raian tearing jack’s limbs apart LOL. All i can say it would be a bloody brutal bloodbath fight

  • @AbrahamKanyinda
    @AbrahamKanyinda Před 17 dny

    Jack also has demon will or spirit

  • @luce698
    @luce698 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The Baki glazers are going crazy in the comments💀😂

  • @mmmnah7684
    @mmmnah7684 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Im thinking, "Couldn't Raian just break Jack's teeth like what Pickle did?" But he has titanium teeth

    • @MavenFlockofRaven
      @MavenFlockofRaven Před 2 měsíci

      If you think Raian and Pickle strength are the same lvl, Pickle hunst and eats dinosaurs from ragdolling a Triceratops ans stopping a foot from a giant sauropod preventing Pickle getting crushed.

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem

      ​@@MavenFlockofRavenand raian ripped a man apart with his bare hands, Alan at bare minimum would be leagues above the prisoners in baki

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem

      @@what_could_have_been_.Alan never swam 200 meters BELOW water in 5 minutes + swam 7,317 miles in less than a day from florida to japan + destroyed engraved his fist 100 times in the statue of liberty or lifted a car with his bare strength. These are the strengths of the “prisoners” of baki who scale to the WEAKEST characters in baki. The prisoners drop alan low diff

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem

      @@itsraiankure engraving your fist in statue of Liberty is around kid wakatsuki lvl feat, do better

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem

      @@what_could_have_been_.yeah waka can dent a 225 ton steel enforced statue to the point it was about to literally fall apart, which is something spec did. Kinda crazy considering how powerful steel is and how much strength it considers to dent it let alone with your bare fists. Spec had hundreds of engravings of his fist in it to the point the steel was CRACKING. Spec got his forearm split, throat torn out, battered by someone who swam in the ocean and fought a megalodon bare handed then won. He even fully recovered in an instant when the camera cut off to him in the hospital.. bro is literally 97 years old too. Meanwhile waka can’t even go all out because he injured his ankle bruh

  • @jhevgainz2307
    @jhevgainz2307 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I don’t see raian even having a chance of winning

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem +1

      Then you're blind.
      Raian is equal to wakatsuki and Julius in terms of raw strength, each of those people are above jack in terms of strength.
      In terms of speed, it's not close at all, 19yr old raian caught Rei's lightning speed punch in base form and called it slow. Durability also goes to raian, someone like katsumi who barely moved faster than sound broke his hand cuz of his weak durability.... Mid tiers in kengan move at lightning speeds and nothing happens to them
      Raian negs

    • @TheMiracleMan3
      @TheMiracleMan3 Před měsícem

      Me too

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem +1

      @@what_could_have_been_.Waka or Julius is nothing to Jack, if I read Kengan Omega and can confirm Baki wins this then either y’all don’t wanna accept the facts or simply don’t know how broken Baki characters are

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem

      @@itsraiankure how is Jack even going to touch raian lmao, he's far too fast in base already

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem +1

      @@what_could_have_been_.Raians faster then Julius and Waka but he still loses against them, wth is the difference with jack who can take out both waka and julius😂

  • @shawnlee1
    @shawnlee1 Před měsícem +2

    raian is winning. if not it's just bad writing

  • @floppa731
    @floppa731 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Jacks endurance and durability are too absurd. I know raian has the same schtick but ya, the goudou is too hard of a counter as well. I can’t see a conclusion other then Jack turning raian into Swiss cheese. He can already take full power hits from a man with a grip that can create diamonds. And if committed, can take down Doppo + level opponents with essentially next to no difficulty

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem

      This movie will just be a hype for the fans, and won't go accurately to what the characters have shown in their verses, cuz if so; then Raian would speed blitz the shit out of jack

  • @geetajaiswal3203
    @geetajaiswal3203 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I DON'T THINK THEY FIGHT WITH THE CURRENT BAKI VERSE

  • @anactualguy8257
    @anactualguy8257 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I think Jack is too big a target for Raian, especially with Raian's latest feats, jack just doesn't seem to match up fo raian.

  • @what_could_have_been_.
    @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem +1

    Jack meatriders are insane, y'all need to realize that raian literally ripped a man apart like a bag of chips (alan wu) alan could defeat all the prisoners in baki by himself, and raian straight up murdered him 0 diff, and that was before the 2yrs time skip

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem

      While Jack did defeat Sikorsky pretty easily, he was still able to land some decent hits on Jack

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem

      @@what_could_have_been_.Jack ate those punches and raian can’t tear Jack apart when they’re body is strong enough to tank claw strikes from a massive male polar bear at ‘17’

  • @HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11
    @HULKBUSTERPROVERBS11 Před 2 měsíci

    Let's do this, the younger yujiro that fought baki as a 13 year old, stopped a Magnitude 6 earthquake, which is town level, or 15 kilotons of force, but when near current baki got hit by imaginary yujiro, it made an earthquake, a Magnitude 4, which is city block level, or 15 tons of force, so let's say baki is around city block level, hitting himself against a wall hard enough to knock him out, and if you do not know, 1000 tons is 1 kiloton, so how many times stronger is baki's feat vs yujiro's feats, yujiro's feat is literally 1000x that of baki's feat, and yujiro said himself that he gets stronger every day, not by a lot, but he does by little. So just like how a man grabbed onto a door handle as yujiro did, and overpowered him easily, those moments in the early age of baki manga, are massively inconsistent moments and aren't considered canon.

  • @pyroboy417
    @pyroboy417 Před 2 měsíci

    Hyper-Bowl.

  • @Ryuji468
    @Ryuji468 Před 2 měsíci +3

    People are gonna hate me, but my money on kure raian

    • @derekgandlofini8058
      @derekgandlofini8058 Před 2 měsíci +4

      We don’t hate you. You just have zero point

    • @Ryuji468
      @Ryuji468 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @derekgandlofini8058 I think people are underestimating raian a bit, especially when he's not trying. However, when he's serious, he could win but barely. I'm not saying Jack doesn't have a chance. No, that's dumb to think, but it would be an interesting fight

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem +1

      @@Ryuji468Jacks body is hard as steel, good luck to raian even leaving a scratch on him even with his strongest techniques. I’m not low balling kengan ashura because I love it myself, but baki solos 9.9 of 10 times

  • @antoniomora5253
    @antoniomora5253 Před 2 měsíci

    i feel like jack vs lihito make sense sharp jaw vs sharp claw

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem

      I wouldn't be surprised if lihito who's seen as a joke in kengan actually beats jacks, he's much faster than jack

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem

      @@what_could_have_been_.Lol ‘Current’ jack stomps the A tier fighters of Kengan, Shen wulong took thousands of years took become strong and he’s supposed to be the big bad of kengan.. he’s even afraid of someone stepping up to the point he hides himself. Yujiro would destroy him then proceed to wipe out every other top tier fighter in kengan ashura like they’re nothing. I know how strong Kengan characters are but you definitely don’t know how strong Baki characters are bro is biased😂

  • @Loedaytron
    @Loedaytron Před 2 měsíci +2

    Ngl Kure gone destroy him

  • @Ryadriz
    @Ryadriz Před 2 měsíci

    I dunno bro, can Jack lift 20 UNEVEN kg?

  • @Maelstromaku
    @Maelstromaku Před 2 měsíci +3

    Raian would win this quite easily,Jack is NOT on his level,the way he fights he would be fairly low diffed tbh

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Well agreed

    • @M-bn2cv
      @M-bn2cv Před 2 měsíci +8

      Bro wtf where did you read the Baki manga jack wins sorry to tell you even unconsciously he wins

    • @floppa731
      @floppa731 Před 2 měsíci +2

      He literally beat a guy that can make diamonds with his hands. That feat alone makes Waka and Julius look like infants

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci

      @@floppa731 yeah sure lol

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci

      @@floppa731 maybe ur an infant 2 think dat shit bruh 🤣🤣🤣

  • @giovannibramlia5668
    @giovannibramlia5668 Před 2 měsíci

    💪 🗿

  • @charlesa1234
    @charlesa1234 Před 2 měsíci +1

    How about Jack vs Eddie?

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem

      Eddie stomps the shit out of Jack, he's stronger, more skilled and just way too fast

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem

      @@what_could_have_been_.Eddie got rekt by Raian after getting exhausted, once he runs out of his guihun Jack destroys him. If you wanna talk about ‘omega’ where edward wu appears far in the manga then I can bring up current jack who’s 8ft tall and 444ibs / bodied a sumo wrestler who would crush edward into the size of a coin with his 100 ton grip strength. Mr Eddie doesn’t want no smoke with Jack Hanma, baki characters are broken. Don’t even make me bring up a point where he went near toe to toe with someone who massacred dinosaurs and even lifted them with his bare fists then ate them including the apex predators. Jack is a Waka and Julius combined on steroids in his BASE without going all out.

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem

      @@itsraiankure it's pretty much confirmed by even the author that Eddie's death was for the plot to progress.
      Pickle is the same guy who got knocked and sent flying by a mini truck, not even kid waka would've gotten in that bad

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem

      @@what_could_have_been_. Pickle got hit by a truck and got up like nothing happened then proceeded to toss it aside the same way he would toss triceratops before being frozen for millions of years. Last I remember the biggest feat your powerhouse in kengan aka julius did was stop a little f1 car from moving. Not even I understood how edward went from destroying raian in base to raian destroying him in guihun + his ultimate technique but Edward still lost in the end so oh well.

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem

      @@itsraiankure Julius held the f1 with one arm with ease

  • @flarps387
    @flarps387 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I have long said that people, due to their low intelligence, perceive everything they read as 100% truth and facts. If Oliver (author) hadn't said that his muscles couldn't destroy the entire prison basically it was a joke, people would bring up this "fact" in each power scale vid.Take other anime where the characters constantly say that they will kill someone but in the entire anime there are no murders at all. Your Spec who breaks the Statue of Liberty takes damage from a pistol and a small bomb in hand turns your "superman's" face to mush.It's just that in Kengan the characters don't fight cars, walls and ordinary people, that's the whole difference

  • @Ihavewetdreamsabout
    @Ihavewetdreamsabout Před 2 měsíci +11

    Kengan could be a biggest joke in baki

  • @shadowhell8378
    @shadowhell8378 Před 2 měsíci

    For jack I see him as slower than baki and Yujiro as he is more of a power fighter not a speed fighter. And some of the fastest confirmed feats are the super sonic punch in the pickle arc and baki moving in the half second knocking out Oliver for a bit. And jack isn't on that level I think the best person to scale him to would be Oliver as they both use there strength with a bit of technique.
    As for raian the best speed feat we have is him blitzing 3 removed west wu members before anyone could realise and catching rei's punch without removal but that hasn't been confirmed for its speed and lastly the clash with ohma.
    As for strength jack has many feats to go off of but raian really only has him lifting and throwing Mokichi Robinson with 1 hand. As all other feats are through techniques and the connector himself has stated that ohma shouldn't be to different from him in terms of physical stats so raian shouldn't be too much off either the techniques are what makes there physical strength harder to calculate.

  • @cyanhydra1332
    @cyanhydra1332 Před měsícem

    Seeing its ashura and not omega raian would be far weaker for the match up i strongly believe omega raian could give jack a lot of life risks blows

  • @malex3606
    @malex3606 Před 2 měsíci

    Knowing Rian, he would bite back in equal fashion 😂.

    • @mike90susanoo84
      @mike90susanoo84 Před měsícem

      Raian never tried to bite anyone in the manga lol

    • @malex3606
      @malex3606 Před měsícem

      @mike90susanoo84 yea, but given his arrogant nature, he might be like, "I can do that too" and may do it to toy around with him.

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem

      @@malex3606nah Jack chewed a nail and made it look like a piece of gum, raian ain’t gonna be doing nowhere near as much damage jack will do

  • @e-rendering_studio
    @e-rendering_studio Před 2 měsíci

    Answer is simple.....Just watch how in Omega Rain Brock in 2 pieces from up to down his opponent....you should need 10 horses in left and right side to do that....

    • @derekgandlofini8058
      @derekgandlofini8058 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Jack was lifting 500 lbs with his jaw well before the convict arc. This glazing is massive from kengan kids

  • @TheBenjammin808
    @TheBenjammin808 Před 2 měsíci

    Good video. Raian would take Jack down. Oh, and I hate being one those people, but it's pronounced hi per bowl Lee. Hyperbole.

  • @LinkShot1945
    @LinkShot1945 Před 2 měsíci

    7.11, not 7.9

  • @dequanventour7959
    @dequanventour7959 Před 2 měsíci

    Ummmm...... Im thinking balls

  • @vitaliyred622
    @vitaliyred622 Před měsícem

    Kure Raian is both faster and stronger than Jack. The only chance for Jack to win is to get Raian in choke or a bite somehow due to insane animalistic nature of Raian. If he doesn't, he is cooked.

  • @BossWolfHomieG
    @BossWolfHomieG Před 2 měsíci +3

    biggest advantage is jacks height, but I dont recall raian ever having a problem with that even without his family techniques

    • @alucard1522
      @alucard1522 Před 2 měsíci

      Well yeah Jack's height gonna give him some advantage but nt his weight at all

    • @Coccman
      @Coccman Před 2 měsíci +9

      His bigges advantage is his strength you don’t read the series if you don’t watch him sleep from tress hanging from his jaw
      Raian is fucked

    • @Ryuji468
      @Ryuji468 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I disagree, I think raian could probably beat Jack ifs he get serious

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem

      @@Ryuji468not at all

  • @OfficialDraii
    @OfficialDraii Před 28 dny

    YALL ARE TALKING BOUT RAIAN WHO COULDNT BEAT OHMA HAHAHA HE NOT TOUCHING BAKI OR JACK ON HIS BEST DAY LOL, y’all are pure delusional.

  • @BlackViod
    @BlackViod Před měsícem

    saying someone is stronger than someone else because they beat the person that beats them isn't really legit imo. some people can just beat certain people and not others in whatever direction you take it.

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  Před měsícem +1

      That is true, discussed quite abit in the kengan story. Which makes alot of the high tiers relative

    • @BlackViod
      @BlackViod Před měsícem

      @@mysteriousweeb ah I see. I will finish keegan before the movie drops then

    • @BlackViod
      @BlackViod Před měsícem

      @@mysteriousweeb I got up to the dirty fighting officer

  • @M-bn2cv
    @M-bn2cv Před 2 měsíci +2

    Yea jack mid diffs

  • @MavenFlockofRaven
    @MavenFlockofRaven Před 2 měsíci

    Jack got the stats advantage (Strength, Speed, Durability)
    Qhile the Raian got the technique and skills

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem +2

      Hell no, Raian got all the advantages, maybe durability is debatable but at the same time, not really.
      I wouldn't be surprised if Jack is slower than someone like kono haru from kengan

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem +2

      And raian was being compared to wakatsuki and Julius in terms of raw strength, so yeah he's clearly above jack. Don't be fooled by his smaller stature

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem

      @@what_could_have_been_.Raian still loses to Waka and Julius. Current jack eats them for breakfast since he easily destroyed nomi who’s far stronger then waka and julius combined. Jack > Raian

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem

      @@itsraiankure kiozan>>>nomi

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před 11 dny

      @@what_could_have_been_.tokugawa > Kengan verse

  • @Beast-fq7rp
    @Beast-fq7rp Před 2 měsíci

    I’m confused how you argue for Jack is still above Raian in Removal? Raian has shown even back in Ashura he stat check Ohma when he was using advance and even now Raian just no diff Willian who has Superman Syndrome and Guihun which is 3.33 multiplier. If anything Raian stats check Jack. However in character I can see Jack catching Raian off guard since he bs a lot. However in bloodlust fight Raian taking it.

    • @mike90susanoo84
      @mike90susanoo84 Před měsícem +1

      lol bloodlust Jack would still dominate

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem +2

      ​@@mike90susanoo84 jack can't even touch raian in base form lmao. Raian holds back all the time cuz he's a sadist, and likes to play around. The only time he got serious about killing was when he saw Eddie, he finished up Alan and then ultimately killed Eddie in the team fight.
      And Jack is not even comparable to Eddy, and that was a 21yr old raian

    • @mike90susanoo84
      @mike90susanoo84 Před měsícem

      @@what_could_have_been_. none of that matters when Jack killed a massive polar bear and held his ground against a flinstone mofo who ate dinosaurs lol. The setting isn’t even nowhere near omega either. Raian getting his ass whooped with or without removal

    • @what_could_have_been_.
      @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem +1

      @@mike90susanoo84 jack ain't even touching raian, ain't pickle the dude who got sent flying by a mini truck, and momentarily knocked out? 😂😵

    • @mike90susanoo84
      @mike90susanoo84 Před měsícem

      @@what_could_have_been_. Raian ain’t doing shit to Jack lol. Yet that vehicle didn’t even do anything to him

  • @Dr.Osterman
    @Dr.Osterman Před měsícem

    I wouldnt trust Vsbattles wiki coz they biased af and lowball Marvel & Dc buy hopefully they get the anime stuff right

  • @bronstonmahelona7676
    @bronstonmahelona7676 Před 2 měsíci

    Raian claps Jack. The over ration of these characters is tiring

    • @derekgandlofini8058
      @derekgandlofini8058 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Jack
      - hangs from tree asleep to train
      - moves at subsonic speeds
      - tanks shots from city level characters
      - beaten sukune, 3 thugs, sirosky, Ali JR, polar bear
      Name me one thing raian has done

    • @floppa731
      @floppa731 Před 2 měsíci +1

      What overrating? Jack defeated a guy who can make diamonds with his hands and has x ray vision. And mid diffed a guy in the beginning of the series that has feats comparable or above Julius

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem

      @@floppa731Exactly, I wouldn’t be surprised if these kengan trds can’t even read the names of other characters from different series let alone knowing their capabilities aside from their own😂

  • @dineshsahu-dk6rw
    @dineshsahu-dk6rw Před měsícem

    Jack wins easily

  • @chasewright2185
    @chasewright2185 Před měsícem

    Sadly jack will loses

  • @DeanCorso87
    @DeanCorso87 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Otakemaru ftw

  • @what_could_have_been_.
    @what_could_have_been_. Před měsícem +1

    Speed difference is not cloooosee AT ALLL LMFAOO.
    Katsumi who apparently has the fastest punch or whatever barely, just barely broke the sound barrier.
    Base raian in ashura (he was 19 in ashura) caught rei's punch in base form and said it was slow as a fly, rei is lightning speed btw, far faster than anything in baki.
    And removal boosts raian at bare minimum x2
    Current raian is a different beast. And ofc they won't bring omega versions of the characters, since it would be too one-sided

    • @lickablelorax2604
      @lickablelorax2604 Před měsícem +1

      Katsumi’s mastered Mach punch is 50+ machs, and rei isn’t lightning speed

    • @itsraiankure
      @itsraiankure Před měsícem

      @@lickablelorax2604There biased, can’t take in the fact baki characters are broken but I can confirm Jack easily wins when Raian is literally my favorite anime character right now lol

  • @jacobferrer5294
    @jacobferrer5294 Před 2 měsíci

    raian low diff baki verse

  • @Invedian
    @Invedian Před 2 měsíci +11

    It being a close fight doesn’t really make sense considering kure is a assassin superhuman while jack is a 7’9 drug abuser

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  Před 2 měsíci +8

      This is fiction

    • @The_Hakaishin_Saiyan
      @The_Hakaishin_Saiyan Před 2 měsíci +1

      Bruhhh

    • @Beast-fq7rp
      @Beast-fq7rp Před 2 měsíci

      Remember it’s for the fans but we know who would win….

    • @Beast-fq7rp
      @Beast-fq7rp Před 2 měsíci

      It’s for the fans bro but we know who would win….

    • @Invedian
      @Invedian Před 2 měsíci

      @@Beast-fq7rp if jack doesn’t go feral I won’t support him I wanna see him… idek like shit can you imagine a 7’9 drug abuser tryna bite you id be terrified 😂

  • @reachova2times162
    @reachova2times162 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Raian gonna kill jack but it’s high diff fasho😂

  • @demuscollette31
    @demuscollette31 Před měsícem

    I got money on raian

  • @BEUTIFURU
    @BEUTIFURU Před měsícem +1

    Jack win the verse

  • @brandonthompson1920
    @brandonthompson1920 Před 2 měsíci

    It's still hard to believe that Baki is about to get some smoke from oma. That is something that was believed to be a fantasy fight that would only exist in our minds and now it has come to reality with no warning. It's so unbelievable I have actually gone back to watch the trailer multiple times I have to force myself to believe it.

  • @jjmmat133
    @jjmmat133 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Very close fight, But Kure Raian have too many technique

  • @brandonthompson1920
    @brandonthompson1920 Před 2 měsíci

    It's still hard to believe that Baki is about to get some smoke from oma. That is something that was believed to be a fantasy fight that would only exist in our minds and now it has come to reality with no warning. It's so unbelievable I have actually gone back to watch the trailer multiple times I have to force myself to believe it.

  • @brandonthompson1920
    @brandonthompson1920 Před 2 měsíci

    It's still hard to believe that Baki is about to get some smoke from oma. That is something that was believed to be a fantasy fight that would only exist in our minds and now it has come to reality with no warning. It's so unbelievable I have actually gone back to watch the trailer multiple times I have to force myself to believe it.

  • @coffeepot3123
    @coffeepot3123 Před 2 měsíci

    God i love this anime.

  • @estermagdali
    @estermagdali Před 2 měsíci

    You should come back to this when we see more

  • @brandonthompson1920
    @brandonthompson1920 Před 2 měsíci

    It's still hard to believe that Baki is about to get some smoke from oma. That is something that was believed to be a fantasy fight that would only exist in our minds and now it has come to reality with no warning. It's so unbelievable I have actually gone back to watch the trailer multiple times I have to force myself to believe it.

  • @Foul_Ghoul
    @Foul_Ghoul Před 2 měsíci

    9:37
    For real, Naruto stomps