British Rail 1989-York with Inter-City 125 HST's, 47s & DMUs
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- A BR upload from June 1989 now, this time some action at York. Lots of Valenta thrashing HST's both East Coast and Cross Country ones along with a class 47 Trans-Pennine loco hauled working. We see one of the Met-Cam class 111 DMUs (787xx class) along with a 144 and 156s. A nice snap-shot from 30 years back! If you liked the video please subscribe to my channel, there are lots more transport & quirky vids to upload!
Brilliant! Spent so many hours there in the 1980s. HSTs looked so good in InterCity livery, and great to see a proper train on the Liverpool- Newcastle service.
Yes, York was good then for loco hauled trains. As well as Trans-Pennine workings there were some IC Cros Country workings that were loco hauled. Some of the HST's we see here are Cross Country workings, as can be seen they are WR sets and only have one First Class coach rather than the three on East Coast services. But they all thrashed well!
This is simply marvellous Soi, you've really made my evening with this video. Some great moments captured. The Valentas: wow. Were they unreliable? I suppose so. However, the sound is something else. Wonderful to see a couple of 47s as well of course. Once again, thank you for sharing these recordings with us. I just cannot believe this is from over 30 years ago.
I'm pleased you enjoyed it..... The Valenta's were replaced as they had been well thrashed and were wearing out, plus parts were getting harder to source.......
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Well said, Soi. Although generally reliable engines, you are quite right, they were getting noiser and noiser and parts were becoming a pain. And I suppose the cherry on the top was that the engine HATED cold weather.
seems strange hearing the pacer (144) with its original engine & self changing gears.
wonderful to see the 47's on Pennie duties.
Yes, York had some nice variety back then! I will see what else i have from here to upload.....
Some fantastic Valenta screaming in that!! Thanks for posting.
My pleasure! I always like seeing, and hearing a Valanta HST pull away on full bore....magic!
Nice to see the contrast between IC Executive and Swallow liveries on HST power cars on one train. I always thought the executive livery much better suited the curved front of the HST, as well as white not being a great colour for the sides of a power car!
BR found out that white is a no no on the railway with the 1st Gen DMUs refurbishment. They came out mostly white with a wide blue stripe. But brake dust had other ideas and a sort of rusty coloured grey became the look! It didn't last long needless to say.......
Lovely video Soi, it brought back many memories, especially the class 101. Thanks for uploading this.
My pleasure. The Met-Cam was actually a clas 111, car numbers in the 787xx range. Originally they were a more powerful class 101 but by the time i filmed this an engine had been removed and they were in all but name a class 101.....
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Thanks Soi, oh that's interesting to read, thanks. I've been watching quite a lot of your videos lately, I'm guessing you may have had one of those old red JVC cameras? My Dad had one on the mid and late 80s.
@@softtalkasmr6873 Thanks for watching, i still have many more great videos to upload from times past. The camera i used was a Panasonic M1 (and later an M5) which took full sized E180 VHS tapes. It was quite large but sat quite steady on your shoulder and of course i didn't have to transfer the filming i had done unlike systems with smaller cameras and tapes. This helped keep the quality up. Now of course i use a small Sony camera that records on micro SD cards. Hours of filming and it all slips nicely into your pocket! If i had one that size years back i may well have filmed even more than i did as carrying a camera with you would have been so much easier!
Loved the video even in the late eighties plenty of variety. Last time I spent any time at York station it was all Deltics and class 47s and the then new HSTs.
Some quality traction in those days. I have been to York then but i was at school and before i had a vid cam. These days of course every kid has a camera on their phone, how times have changed! (our phone was attached to the house.......)
At leadt phone boxes only cost 10p back then, instead of a quid. Of course if you can find a phone box.
Splendid upload, even the basic services is a sight to behold now. Best day of me life until met her, was here July '87, first trip up north on an HST. While the school trip carried on their sojourn of the city, i bunked off and headed to the station for the day lol. I bunked a lot of school for trainspottin anyway, as they well knew!
Yeah nice sound of the 111's, by june '89 there were only 8 x DHCL's and 9 x DHBS's remaining, NL based. This has just made me look up that day in '87, saw 4 of em, but mistakingly put them down as 101's at time !
And 47278 was given a CEM at Stratford DRS apparently 2 months after this vid, not repainted and was one of the last of the stanlow 47's to survive in Rf Petroleum livery. I bet there's more for you to upload of this day, most interesting sir, thanks :)
I pleased my upload reminds you of times past, and for sharing them with us. Yes, there is more from this day which will be uploaded over time. Plenty more historical films to go! I have no idea why 47 278 reversed in the platform, or where it had been? I lived near Stratford and a friend of my Dad's worked at Stratford DRS (and later the running shed) which was always handy for a nosey around!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Splendid, keep em coming! Indeed, i think the 47 was off the Stanlow - Scarboro (Appleton) TTA Shell tanks which i think ran once a week. 278 must be off to YK fuelling point i assume. . . And i noticed, no 141's that day? . . While i'm here i'll just watch it all again haha. Nice one.
@@djtrainspotter I have a few 141s on film but not many. It's quite possible that by now none were working through to York. Perhaps kept to more local Leeds runs?
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Yes i'd agree. Seemed they were used lots on the Harrogate services when i was there in '87/88. They'd all been overhauled and put into WYPTE red by 1990. Interesting little units to us southern folk hehe! Especially without unit no's when in cream/green!
@@djtrainspotter Never saw them in that livery but did ride the yellow BREL/Leylan National railbus class 140 in Scotland back in 1981 i think? Was on an All Line Rover with my Dad. Have photos but no video in those days.....
Great footage there, of what is in my opinion a better time for railways, traction wise at least
There seemed to be a good array of traction types around then. Good British built stock at that!
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus yeah definitely
The 156s were working trans-Pennine services to Scarborough at that time, were they? Were there any electric trains to York then? They all seemed to be HSTs
The class 91's were working to Leeds only, possibly still using the MkIII rakes with a HST power car at the other end. All else was still HST including some Cross Country workings (some power cars are WR ones). The 156s were indeed on the TP Scarborough's.
The 111 sounds very different to the 101 sound I'm used to... were they mechanically different or is it just the way it's being driven?
They did indeed have a different engine in the 111s. When new each Driving Motor had two but by the time this was filmed they had been reduced to one per Motor coach.
Supercharged Rolls-Royces, no less
Whilst the 101's and 111's were much loved DMU'S, it has to be said that the 111's were quite a bit thirstier than the 101's.
Was that blue and white coach built by British Leyland? ,and does it still survive? Great Valenta 125s
Do you mean the blue & grey coach in the first HST seen? That is just a standard MkIII coach built by British Rail Engineering Ltd, one that hadn'y yet been repainted into the new InterCity colours.
British rail did have a mk1 chasis with a Leyland built bodyshell. Yes it does survive, its at a preservation site in south Wales. But, as Soi says the one in the video is a blue and grey mk3 hst trailer, the Leyland carriage was loco hauled. I think it was used in cross country services. It wasn't deemed a success, whence no more conversions. I think it was trialled to see if it could extend the life of mk1s.
When were they class 111s renumbered then? According to my BR Coaching Stock 1980 book they were 50 or 51xxx.
In 1982 they had one of their two engines removed and paired up as poer twins. Those that ended up in the Leeds Area were renumbered into the 78xxx series. I seem to recall riding and videoing others at Goole/Knottingley way around the time of this vid.
111's don't you mean 101's?
It was an up-engined version with Rolls Royce engines for use in the Pennines.
No, these were 111's, with Rolls Royce engines.
One way to distinguish is the lower set destination display. This was due to a 4 panel.headcode box being fitted originally