When I was first starting to build, the old timer that was teaching me said that exact line to me. But it went like this. Stephan, you are like lighting with that hammer! Thanks so much! I was super encouraged. Lightning never strikes the same spot twice. Oh :/ I was super discouraged, but it motivated me to not hear that line again.
Well it does in the sense that i would never use a metal handle if i was doing this all day, nothing absorbs impact like good ole american hickory or ash wood in general
@@tack3411 You're right but that's it, titanium Transfers up to 97% of the energy directly to the nail. We're as steel hammer only transfers about 70%. Which means less felt vibration with a titanium hammer and fewer swings to pound a nail.
So my line of work affords me a lot of gun range time. Me and my co-workers are always talking crap about our shooting abilities. Just know; your "Stormtrooper" comment will become my primary 💩 talking line moving forward! Thanks for sharing...🤣😭😂‼️
He is changing hammers each time, as a pseudo blacksmith but full time fabricator, if you change anything about my hammers or my tig torch it will throw me off for the first hour or two. Also framing is not precise and hammers in general aren’t precise
In the 70s it was the Plumb 28 oz rigging axe, in the 80s the original Hart Framer in the 90s the original Douglas titanium, in the 2000s the Stiletto hammer. Since I’m semi retired now I can’t tell you about the newer Martinez hammers.
I read the second one as fart hammer and had myself a good chuckle , as a plumber i use hammers but usually only to break cast iron pipe into manageable chunks.
Own the stilletto but prefer the martinez. It's top heavy like those oldschool ones. Just feels better for hitting shit with. Mind you I don't really need to use my hammer as a hammer all that much. Use the claw as a pry bar more than anything. Maybe a little tappa tappa here and there. But sheit, most of those times too i just use the nail gun already in my hand 😂
Young guy here(23 (licensed GC and carpenter)) Started on a Eswing (from my carpenter grandfather), bought my first wood handled 14oz stiletto within my first year, bought the TB3 had it for a few months, used my buddy’s M1 and I was hooked. Bought both the m1 waffle face and the m4 dimple face to switch up between framing and everything else. Nobody needs $400 hammers… however, if my Martinez got stolen, I’d immediately go out and buy another.
I’ve always rocked the Vaughans. They are cheap enough that I can buy several to keep in different tool boxes or trucks. When I loose them it’s not a huge deal. I also appreciate that their brand has been around for like 200 years. If I was really gunna get into production framing I’d probably buy a Stiletto or something fancy just for my tool belt. I’d still have the Vaughans conveniently stashed places. Lately I’ve been doing drywall and I hardly use the hatchet enough to want a fancy one.
Vaughans are badass!! I just got a 19oz to try out and I’ve used it all week let me tell you … I’ll be using them for good now I just tossed my 28oz dewalt 😂 even if it’s not vaughn I’m gonna be using a curved wood handled hammer for the rest of my life/career
Your swinging technique is important when framing all day. You can swing any hammer. It's just the hammer that you like and enjoy. I've had using a 14 oz Setletto for 25 years.
It's still an extension of your body. A Carpenter's Hammer is like Harry Potter and his Wand. A Samurais Sword. A Cowboys Horse. "This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine..."
I enjoyed it and to all you haters out there.. you get your butts out there and record yourself and not make mistakes. I be over the moon to let ya frame our house.
California framer used hickory handles and when the hammer head was returned, i would keep the handles for the BBQ, and i went through a lot of hammers in my 23yrs of carpentering
I commend you for your bravery. Any social media post involving a skill or trade always gets the "ive been doing this for 1200 years and you suck" typs comments and they get so annoying.
In my experience, you want a $40-$60 hammer. You want something well balanced with a good comfortable grip, but beyond that it's just a waste of money. The only difference between a $40 ox and a $300 stiletto is the stiletto is less tiring to swing all day, but on the other side of that, it's also not going to build as much muscle.
Moral of the story, just what you like or fits in your hand best, love the look of a delluge or older framing hammers, but that dewalt is fine for a starters. Or go classic with an estwing
As I got older I developed a form of arthritis between my thumb and forefinger where you grip a hammer. Going with a stiletto was worth every penny to ease the stress on my hand.
After using a nail gun of all sorts for years, I’m not sure I can hammer a nail with accuracy anymore. 😢 The closest I do now is to use a nail set to sink a few raised finish nail heads.
Let’s be honest , is everyone fucking hammering tf out’ve a nail everytime or?? Because Im a carpenter and i own a M1 . never have I ever sledged tf out’ve a nail like that.
The true test of a hammer isn't done over a few minutes, it's done over a few years. And even then, it comes down to preference. Those who have never tasted grapes should not say sour, and something as intimate as a carpenters hammer cannot be tasted so briefly - it's true capabilities only understood over a long career.
Umm,Eastwing is mine of choice.I never work with anyone unless they have one as well.I have the same Eastwing for years and find they are the most balanced and don't tear up tour wrist. BACK IN THE DAY,the old timers would call those 'mule kicks' on the lumber with those hammer dents.I use that term with newbies and make sure they strive to avoid making them as it shows pride in your work by not having them.
I could go all day with my 23oz California framer. it was guaranteed for life and I would pick up the broken handles from the other carpenters and get a new one so I always had more than handy. that hammer was SET, DRIVE all day long
Give a framer 6 different hammers and they will all do this for 2 reasons. A. Someone is watching and ready to give them shit. B. If they never miss with theirs, now the are micro adjusting for all these different hammer.
One guy had the steel 23oz Vaughan at least I think it’s steel. If it is steel that guy is like me, broke😂 I have a 22oz framing estwing my dad has had his estwing for 30 years and it performs like it’s brand new so I got myself one and I love that steel is still a thing. 👍
You still gotta set the nails with a hammer unless you're dookie, if you set your nails to shoot deeper on your wood you're missing the reason for the fastener and effectively reducing the shear load because only half the board is being held from shooting it too deep, even if you shoot it a little bit deep you still have to mar and compress the material around the nail, point is you still need to smack that spot with a hammer lol it sets the nails. These aren't pin nails, they're 8d framing nails
@@predatorysage1 bullshit🤣🤣🤣 you don't have to do every single one but work speaks for itself, good luck with your creeky ass walls and roofs and decks and floors. Oh and not to forget your stairs are probably the creekiest mofos around lmao
You hit the nail on the head... That one time. All jokes aside your better than me and probably most of the people giving you a hard time that never swung a hammer. Not as easy as it looks till you been at it a while.
They call you lightning because you never strike the same place twice.
😂😂😂
😂😂
😂😅😂 glad someone else said it
When I was first starting to build, the old timer that was teaching me said that exact line to me.
But it went like this.
Stephan, you are like lighting with that hammer!
Thanks so much! I was super encouraged.
Lightning never strikes the same spot twice.
Oh :/
I was super discouraged, but it motivated me to not hear that line again.
😂👏
Moral of the story is it doesn't fucking matter
Well it does in the sense that i would never use a metal handle if i was doing this all day, nothing absorbs impact like good ole american hickory or ash wood in general
After a few 10s of thousands of swings it does. Titanium is totally worth it.. Well maybe not the 260$ t-bone
@@travisdoe4663if handle feels nice, there ya go. Only thing that actually matters is saving your bones
@@tack3411 You're right but that's it, titanium Transfers up to 97% of the energy directly to the nail. We're as steel hammer only transfers about 70%. Which means less felt vibration with a titanium hammer and fewer swings to pound a nail.
@@travisdoe4663 that’s fine but in the context of how much your hand feels I’m not sure the 20% would make enough difference to justify the cost
Dang you miss more than a storm trooper! 😂
This comment deserves and award for best comment of the year!
This is such an ancient overused joke 🤣
So my line of work affords me a lot of gun range time. Me and my co-workers are always talking crap about our shooting abilities. Just know; your "Stormtrooper" comment will become my primary 💩 talking line moving forward! Thanks for sharing...🤣😭😂‼️
He is changing hammers each time, as a pseudo blacksmith but full time fabricator, if you change anything about my hammers or my tig torch it will throw me off for the first hour or two. Also framing is not precise and hammers in general aren’t precise
And about 70% of the ones he does 😅
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
- Wayne Gretzky
- Michael Scott
In his case he misses 50% of the shots he does take
0% fail rate if you never shoot!
The problem is that he also misses 75% of the shots that he does take lol 😂
They say it works better when you actually hit the damn nail
Hey I am an older finish carpenter and I think you are a smart young carpenter with a bright future! Keep up the good work Jared!
Moral of the story. Doesnt matter which hammer you have if your aim sucks.
In the 70s it was the Plumb 28 oz rigging axe, in the 80s the original Hart Framer in the 90s the original Douglas titanium, in the 2000s the Stiletto hammer. Since I’m semi retired now I can’t tell you about the newer Martinez hammers.
I read the second one as fart hammer and had myself a good chuckle , as a plumber i use hammers but usually only to break cast iron pipe into manageable chunks.
Own the stilletto but prefer the martinez.
It's top heavy like those oldschool ones. Just feels better for hitting shit with.
Mind you I don't really need to use my hammer as a hammer all that much.
Use the claw as a pry bar more than anything.
Maybe a little tappa tappa here and there. But sheit, most of those times too i just use the nail gun already in my hand 😂
Nothing beats the framing hatchet
Young guy here(23 (licensed GC and carpenter)) Started on a Eswing (from my carpenter grandfather), bought my first wood handled 14oz stiletto within my first year, bought the TB3 had it for a few months, used my buddy’s M1 and I was hooked. Bought both the m1 waffle face and the m4 dimple face to switch up between framing and everything else. Nobody needs $400 hammers… however, if my Martinez got stolen, I’d immediately go out and buy another.
I've been a carpenter for 35 years and my 2 estwing hammers have never let me down 👍
Hold the hammer at bottom of handle /shaft , that's the reason for the long handle 👍keep practicing young fella , we all started missing nails
I’ve always rocked the Vaughans. They are cheap enough that I can buy several to keep in different tool boxes or trucks. When I loose them it’s not a huge deal. I also appreciate that their brand has been around for like 200 years. If I was really gunna get into production framing I’d probably buy a Stiletto or something fancy just for my tool belt. I’d still have the Vaughans conveniently stashed places. Lately I’ve been doing drywall and I hardly use the hatchet enough to want a fancy one.
Vaughans are badass!! I just got a 19oz to try out and I’ve used it all week let me tell you … I’ll be using them for good now I just tossed my 28oz dewalt 😂 even if it’s not vaughn I’m gonna be using a curved wood handled hammer for the rest of my life/career
Your swinging technique is important when framing all day. You can swing any hammer. It's just the hammer that you like and enjoy. I've had using a 14 oz Setletto for 25 years.
The one thing that I have learned from your most informative video is that it is hard to scare a nail into the wood 😂
It's 2024... use a nail gun. My hammer only comes out to fix something or pull a nail.
Some of us are poor
It's still an extension of your body.
A Carpenter's Hammer is like Harry Potter and his Wand.
A Samurais Sword.
A Cowboys Horse.
"This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine..."
@maxnovakovics2568 very well said, you ain't a real carpenter unless you can swing a hammer accurately and efficiently🙌🏽💯
This foo a trim carpenter
@@BMCKINN7good carpenters make $50+ an hr😂
I enjoyed it and to all you haters out there.. you get your butts out there and record yourself and not make mistakes. I be over the moon to let ya frame our house.
I framed up more houses than both of you been alive
@@staggdegraaff1531lol.. drugs are bad..
@scottward2366 Yeah, they should quit doing them
@@staggdegraaff1531 lol.. I was talking bout you... Your comment makes no sense man
@scottward2366 well I don't have construction paper and crayons to explain it to you. So figure it out
You ckoked the shit out of that Vaughan! 😂 I've driven miles on that!
That was one of my favorite hammers, 22oz wood handle Vaughn, nice balance
Damn hammer strikes were like lighting. Never the same spot. 😂
Bro hammers like Napoleon. He likes to surround the enemy before he attacks😅
When I go from a 22 to a 15 my first couple swings look like that too
I use a 28 I can use anything lighter
Ok young one…..every time you miss you create a damaged piece of framing. Buy a nail gun . Get a mentor not a hammer
@@Juanmorsay7894 I'm 46 dipshit,it's called muscle memory
@Juanmorsay7894 I'm 46 dumbass,muscle memory is a thing.
For driving nails I prefer the hickory handle 14 oz stiletto. Driving is fun and will save your arm in the long run. Retired 20 year carpenter.
California framer used hickory handles and when the hammer head was returned, i would keep the handles for the BBQ, and i went through a lot of hammers in my 23yrs of carpentering
I commend you for your bravery. Any social media post involving a skill or trade always gets the "ive been doing this for 1200 years and you suck" typs comments and they get so annoying.
Daluge was the most popular in phoenix,az. In the 80’s. Nice hammer
In my experience, you want a $40-$60 hammer. You want something well balanced with a good comfortable grip, but beyond that it's just a waste of money. The only difference between a $40 ox and a $300 stiletto is the stiletto is less tiring to swing all day, but on the other side of that, it's also not going to build as much muscle.
Those stilleto hammers work beautifully, Martinez too.
It's not really about being comparable if you can't handle, the full handle on each. But good comparison on what you can handle!
I break wooden handles to often. To top heavy for me as well
i liked my 23oz CA Framer, for both framing and commercial concrete work, good to see no Eskwing junk on the list
We ABSOLUTELY 💯 NEED a remake!!!**** Slow down giving better more accurate hits for sure but very small difference when it comes down to it
Good thing those nails don't hit back. I think he was offering them peace offerings.
I like a few warning shots to get them nice and scared 👌
20 OZ Vaughn 999 wood handle, best hammer I've found
Yaaaaaas sir
that m1 was great. when you hit the nail on the
I use a 14 oz DeWalt Framing hammer. It's light but it still swings well. Probably the best starting hammer for the price I got it at almost 60 bucks.
Making these boards look like cottage cheese
As a Mexican, we could practice to Nail it with 2 hits with any hammer 😂❤
I was actually down in Mexico installing drywall one time and a guy there was just hammering the sheetrock screws in 😅
Your work sucks
You could, but you wouldn’t because you’re on your third siesta of the day and it’s only 1PM.
6oz trim hammer?!
As a Mexican. 🤦🏼♂️
Moral of the story, just what you like or fits in your hand best, love the look of a delluge or older framing hammers, but that dewalt is fine for a starters. Or go classic with an estwing
Vaughn Blue Max, straight handle. You can keep the titanium.
As I got older I developed a form of arthritis between my thumb and forefinger where you grip a hammer. Going with a stiletto was worth every penny to ease the stress on my hand.
The m1 only needed one hit when he actually hit it. Crazy good but crazy price
After using a nail gun of all sorts for years, I’m not sure I can hammer a nail with accuracy anymore. 😢 The closest I do now is to use a nail set to sink a few raised finish nail heads.
That Vaughn and Martinez got it going on
Let’s be honest , is everyone fucking hammering tf out’ve a nail everytime or?? Because Im a carpenter and i own a M1 . never have I ever sledged tf out’ve a nail like that.
Geuss you weren't a piece work Framer in the 90's😊
@@jayframes4967 no I’m only 26 😂😂
Should’ve had a stunt double for that comparison!
The true test of a hammer isn't done over a few minutes, it's done over a few years. And even then, it comes down to preference. Those who have never tasted grapes should not say sour, and something as intimate as a carpenters hammer cannot be tasted so briefly - it's true capabilities only understood over a long career.
Bro was here trying to help know what hammer is the best instead he got made fun of 😂❤
Umm,Eastwing is mine of choice.I never work with anyone unless they have one as well.I have the same Eastwing for years and find they are the most balanced and don't tear up tour wrist.
BACK IN THE DAY,the old timers would call those 'mule kicks' on the lumber with those hammer dents.I use that term with newbies and make sure they strive to avoid making them as it shows pride in your work by not having them.
Thank god they invented nail-guns, this guy would struggle without lol. We all got to start somewhere.
It's not the hammer, it's the handler😂
If I missed that many times in a row, I'd probably have my boss suggesting that I take a handful of 16s home to practice with. 😂
Yup. Looks like they all hammer nails as advertised
It's not the hammer... It's the operator.
Ah, the tennis elbow 5000. Gotta respect the classics
Love how you still being productive while experimenting😂
couldn't hit the side of a barn... keep the vids rolling!
That Martinez is actually a class A weapon! Lol
Bo having a hard time hitting the nail😂😂you know he ain't got no girl
The last one was the best! It made the biggest dents in the wood 😂😂
Lol like watching my 4yr old use my drill with a #2 on a sheet rock screw. Keeping practicing champ 😂
Martinez
It's not the tool. It's the tool behind the tool.
Only swung 2 of these.Vaughn and deluge, I still have the head of my only deluge, none of the many Vaughns.
Works better when you can hit the nail
He's like lighting.......... never strikes the same spot twice 😂😂
14oz stiletto all day. Martinez was good to......... but don't worry about what hammer you got until you can hit the nail twice
Vintage Vaughn FTW!
Dude was swingin for the fences 🤣 cool video
If you try to murder the nail.....you're going to miss.
Guys give him a break. It’s hard to get used to a hammer in 4 nails. A man and his hammers bond is one formed over time.
Looks like the stilleto 14oz is what you use every day. Problem with a titanium hammer is the waffle is gone after no time at all.
Should I focus more on accuracy than brute, force and ignorance?
Not too bad for the 14oz stiletto
I could go all day with my 23oz California framer. it was guaranteed for life and I would pick up the broken handles from the other carpenters and get a new one so I always had more than handy. that hammer was SET, DRIVE all day long
Alright guys, when did you graduate hammer school? '99 here.😂
In 1985 when I stared houses my boss would yell at us for leaving hammer marks in the wood no joke
Lighter the hammer the harder you swing
Give a framer 6 different hammers and they will all do this for 2 reasons. A. Someone is watching and ready to give them shit. B. If they never miss with theirs, now the are micro adjusting for all these different hammer.
The lighter the hammer the more your accuracy will plumpish. The first and, second hammer was top tier.
I got my composite handled 14oz Stilletto
I remember my first time using a hammer.
You did fine son. We all miss sometimes. You left out the best, estwing for life for me
One guy had the steel 23oz Vaughan at least I think it’s steel. If it is steel that guy is like me, broke😂 I have a 22oz framing estwing my dad has had his estwing for 30 years and it performs like it’s brand new so I got myself one and I love that steel is still a thing. 👍
Missed a few times, but still had some driving power for a skinny guy. Seen many more that that are bigger and can’t drive in one strike ever.
60 percent of the time, it works every time.
I carry a Bluegrass 16 0z curved claw with the wooden octagon handle. Bluegrass BG47-16 to be exact. 😊
That wood made form clay 😂😂
Personally I'll take my 28oz Pittsburgh California framing hammer from harbor freight it's 9 bucks
depending on who hits it.Vaughn is the best bang for your buck
All that matters is how you swing it
moral of the story is just use a damn nail gun we live in 2023 not 1950 lmao
You clearly don’t frame
You still gotta set the nails with a hammer unless you're dookie, if you set your nails to shoot deeper on your wood you're missing the reason for the fastener and effectively reducing the shear load because only half the board is being held from shooting it too deep, even if you shoot it a little bit deep you still have to mar and compress the material around the nail, point is you still need to smack that spot with a hammer lol it sets the nails. These aren't pin nails, they're 8d framing nails
Side note, you should also set your pin nails
@@ffsrdr6596 you shouldn't have to set every single nail, you can go as deep as a 1/4" on 2x material.
@@predatorysage1 bullshit🤣🤣🤣 you don't have to do every single one but work speaks for itself, good luck with your creeky ass walls and roofs and decks and floors. Oh and not to forget your stairs are probably the creekiest mofos around lmao
A little advice for you young framer. When you get older your hands,elbows,hips,knees and back will hurt . Something to think about. Peace
So... does he just stop doing his job? How often is he suppose to "think about it"? Jesus christ dude🤣
Some soft timber
Vaughn 505L /999L not fancy but good !!! No one needs the mill face !!
Hit the....I mean...it's not even moving.
Ouch hard to even know if the hammers were different with how inconsistent those swings were
Nothing wrong with the hammers, it's the operator who's crappy
Well, they all hammer
A hammer is a hammer it depends on how the user feels with it simple as that
You hit the nail on the head... That one time.
All jokes aside your better than me and probably most of the people giving you a hard time that never swung a hammer. Not as easy as it looks till you been at it a while.
If theres anything i know abouy hammers, its not what they do within 4 nails, its what my arm feels like at the end of the day
Martinez all the way
The vaughn is the best hammer on the market and it doesn't cost 200 bucks.
Vintage vaughn all day
I used the 32oz Vaughan my right arm was larger than my left arm for some reason.